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Ariel Dawn
F9X
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:22:00 -
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Remember when supercaps had 3-5x less EHP and less than half of the DPS output they have now? When they also used to cost more as well in general because of logistics?
People still used them. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
152
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Posted - 2011.11.24 14:47:00 -
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xxxak wrote:I've played this game for 5+ years, and the vast majority of "bittervets" I know own caps and own supercaps, or want super caps. No one has the long term "goal" of being a Battleship jocky/cannon fodder. At least, no one who will play EvE long-term.... Coincidence?
I chose to read that as capitals being so ****** up to start with that they actually managed to make Eve worse for the people who went down that dark path ...
Nerf them into the ground and when the tears have all dried up nerf them some more! ... Only way to be sure.
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
187
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:xxxak wrote:I have an almost unlimited amount of Plex in my RL bank account (Imagine about 10 of your parent's houses) Ok Steve, so when's the next iPod coming out? Too soon.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1661
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:17:00 -
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xxxak wrote:CCP, with its new Crucible patch, has utterly ruined the end-game Incorrect. For a number of reasons.
First of all, no matter how much the fact makes you QQ, EVE has no end-game. You have an end-game, and it is of zero relevance to anyone else. The end-game you set up for yourself was balanced, big deal.
Second of all, supercaps are most definitely not the end-game, even if there was one.
Thirdly, supercaps are not ruined.
Fourth, stop spamming your incoherent and uninformed dribble all over the place. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
325
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:20:00 -
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Honestly making it so that supers can't logoffski will do MUCH more than any other nerf, if that is the nerf you mean, well then go frack yourself. Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ... Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon. Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
46
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:31:00 -
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**** it now takes subcaps 10 minutes instead of 15 to kill my super better emo about it and ..... god even I can't be arsed trolling.
Send isk, go learn why Supers are not even close to eves end game. Sit in a ship that only uses drones and only flys in packs of lag bringing borring. This is "Your" end game.
Take a list of other things to do in eve, blindly point at one, and you've gotten closer to an actually endgame. Sitting in an I Win ship and crying because its now 20% less win smacks of childish toy throwing.
Adapt or die. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
47
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:33:00 -
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Mag's wrote:You're doing it wrong. 5 pages already in thread.... he did it right |
DelBoy Trades
Enslave. GIANTSBANE.
44
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:43:00 -
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Guys, I think you should respect OPs claims, is it really that hard to believe he is super rich?? I myself am a super rich rap-mogul who is married to Beyonce. I like to spend my time flying around in a private jet chasing flocks of geese or skeet shooting faberg+¬ eggs off my 9^10ft yacht. But just like OP, when I'm not busy doing that, I like to whine on an MMOs forums about some **** or another. Y'all guys are just ignorant. |
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
In Praise Of Shadows
20
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:50:00 -
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Tippia wrote:EVE has no end-game. Could you please show CCP claiming this to be true, otherwise it is just your opinion.
Tippia wrote:First of all, no matter how much the fact makes you QQ, You have an end-game, and it is of zero relevance to anyone else. The end-game you set up for yourself was balanced, big deal. Can you point how his end game was balenced or it is mear conjectsher.
Tippia wrote:supercaps are most definitely not the end-game, even if there was one. If you are definite then you can definite state how so, thankls.
Tippia wrote:Thirdly, supercaps are not ruined. Hop so?
Tippia wrote:Fourth, stop spamming your incoherent and uninformed dribble all over the place. Please indicate how his commerts are incohearent if you fcould intrerpret and formalie a responce.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1661
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:59:00 -
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob wrote:Could you please show CCP claiming this to be true Yes. Log in, look for the end-game area. Then open your char sheet and look for the max-level skills. Then open the market and look for the max-level equipment. Then get EFT and construct the ultimate ship.
Quote:Can you point how his end game was balenced Go read the super cap blog.
Quote:If you are definite then you can definite state how so Huh? I am definite? What? SoGǪ he should stop QQing over how they're ruined?
Quote:Please indicate how his commerts are incohearent Read the rest of the threads he's dribbled in. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
In Praise Of Shadows
20
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Posted - 2011.11.24 16:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Read the rest of the threads he's dribbled in. nO THANTYou
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Chelone
Outside The Asylum
7
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Posted - 2011.11.24 16:14:00 -
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Buy me a house and I will be your forum warrior. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
147
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Posted - 2011.11.24 16:14:00 -
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Isn't the endgame of EVE about controlling a galactic empire?
How you choose to do that is your business. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. |
Korsiri
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 16:50:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:NO LOLLYGAGGING
No LoL's were gagged here ;)
also, if Eve will be virtually dead within a year, dear OP, does that mean it was virtually alive?
Besides I'm sure there are those who'd take great delight in breathing new life into Eve, if you were correct. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1661
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:07:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Isn't the endgame of EVE about controlling a galactic empire?
How you choose to do that is your business. If you want it to be, then yes. If not, then no.
But yes, the choice of route is indeed all yours.
OP does't get EVE, and I don't know if it's sad or hillarious that he managed to get into a supercap withou getting the game. Sadlarious perhaps? Anyway, that alone should be indication enough that supercaps most definitely aren't some kind of indisputable end-game.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
OninoTimmo
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
18
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:16:00 -
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Why is a Nulli guy crying about his super, it's not like your alliance actually uses them |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
138
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:19:00 -
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hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahha you always make my day with your super-cap QQ CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
48
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:19:00 -
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what did I just read?
Also giev my your super |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
399
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:22:00 -
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you're a pathetic little scrub who cries too much
now go fly your ebay super into a black hole and vanish The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:25:00 -
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The idea that bittervets like you xxxak keep the sandbox running is ludicrous.
If anything, you keep the sandbox from running as well as it should. So, find a new sandbox.
I hear RL is a sandbox. You should probably level up your apartment cleaning skills, and stop wearing soiled underwear and shirts and posting between two towers of pizza boxes about how mad you are about super caps getting well needed balance changes. |
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
130
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:26:00 -
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For a long time I thought that it was absurd that a combat ship such as a supercap had its own built-in warp core stabs. I thought that such modules belonged only on non-PVP ships like T2 haulers or miners.
But now I see the mindset of a supercap pilot, I realise that it is entirely appropriate. These pilots are too :elite: to be expected to fly a non-stabbed ship. Maybe we could even ask for T3 WCS for them, so they can avoid being exposed to any risk at all? |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
219
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:31:00 -
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to hell with caps. caps are not the end game, pvp is. if i ran the show, id limit each Alliance to maybe like...3 titans. caps should not be able to scratch subcap fleets. they should cost a shitload to maintain, and they should not be able to move much. originally they were supposed to act as mobile bases, not gangbang pwnmobiles. i hope CCP sees the light and reverts to this philosophy.
my 2 cents. i hope your caps get nerfed to the ground |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:37:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:to hell with caps. caps are not the end game, pvp is. if i ran the show, id limit each Alliance to maybe like...3 titans. caps should not be able to scratch subcap fleets. they should cost a shitload to maintain, and they should not be able to move much. originally they were supposed to act as mobile bases, not gangbang pwnmobiles. i hope CCP sees the light and reverts to this philosophy.
my 2 cents. i hope your caps get nerfed to the ground
Gudfites are the end game. NOT CAPS! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
367
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Posted - 2011.11.24 17:55:00 -
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Now give him the benefit of the doubt.
It's quite possible that he purchased a degree in game theory and design from an online university, and therefore knows exactly what he is talking about.
(I'll expect my payment via the usual means, thank you.) To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
61
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:01:00 -
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xxxak wrote:
But I am the Anti-Mittani.* Unlike him and his dark Horde, I do not want to see New Eden burn. I don't want to see 1000 rifters beat 100 supers. I don't want to see online player numbers drop and drop and drop. I don't want this game to go in the direction of SWG -- which died a horrible, twisted death when the Devs tried to appeal to the masses and the kiddies and the nubtards.
You are a idiot. 1000 rifters beating 100 supers means you just dropped alliance level assets that require a support fleet....without a support fleet. |
digitalwanderer
DF0 incorporated
6
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:xxxak wrote:CCP, with its new Crucible patch, has utterly ruined the end-game Incorrect. For a number of reasons. First of all, no matter how much the fact makes you QQ, EVE has no end-game. You have an end-game, and it is of zero relevance to anyone else. The end-game you set up for yourself was balanced, big deal. Second of all, supercaps are most definitely not the end-game, even if there was one. Thirdly, supercaps are not ruined. Fourth, stop spamming your incoherent and uninformed dribble all over the place.
I used to agree with that view but i got to say that as i'm aproaching 9 years of playing this game, and have practically every skill i want to train to lvl 5 done(almost 140 skills), or well trained(150+ skills to lvl 4), and the sight of hitting 200 million skill points isn't that far away anymore, having the best implants and plenty of isk....Heck all 4 titan skills are maxed out, that end game feels a lot closer these days.
I'm not interested in research or production skills, or trading or anything that doesn't involve flying a ship inn the first place, wich i can do all 4 races equally well, so i'm as nerf proof as possible in that respect, and don't take this as me boasting as it's just a matter of time and patience and persistance for everyone to reach this point.....Most quit well before hitting this mark.
And yes over those years, i've tried everything from mining, to pvp, to pve and being in three 0.0 aliances, and it all becomes the same over that period, fighting and dieing repeatedly for the same systems over and over, even if under a different aliance banner, friends that become enemies and enemies that are now corp/aliance mates, so it's become pretty stale for long running players that have been here since the game was basically released in 2003(not that far from the decade mark, so time flies).
I don't see eve's backstory getting developed at all, know nothing more about the jove than we did in 2003 or opening the eve gate and see what's on the other side of it, and even releasing the rest of the T2 ships and faction ships for all ship classes(dreads, carriers, super carriers and even titans), or the extremely long road to releasing more T3 ships, wich we only have cruisers for the last 2 years, and at this rate the odds are that i'll probably kick the bucket before we see all T3 ship classes in game anyhow.
I fully realise that CCP's focus is on the new players, and atracting more of them to ensure the game's overall survival here in financial terms, but forgetting content for the older crowd that have been with this game so long isn't right either, even though i fully realise that releasing even more powerfull ships that take years of training and only affects a very small portion of the eve player base(unfortunately since many have already left), doesn't make financial sense for CCP given the work involved, but it still would something i'd be happy to undertake that challenge(heck beyond rank 16 skills, bring it), but it will still **** off the newer players stating it increases the skill gap between veterans and newer players....An argument i've been hearing since 2004 btw when i only had 11 million sp in those days.
Getting bored CCP, do something about it please... |
xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
95
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:23:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:The idea that bittervets like you xxxak keep the sandbox running is ludicrous.
If anything, you keep the sandbox from running as well as it should. So, find a new sandbox.
I hear RL is a sandbox. You should probably level up your apartment cleaning skills, and stop wearing soiled underwear and shirts and posting between two towers of pizza boxes about how mad you are about super caps getting well needed balance changes.
I have a maid. The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run. |
xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
95
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:25:00 -
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HellGate fr wrote:You just don't have any PvP skills and the only thing you can do is using a supercap and now your PvE and PvP toy is getting nerfed you make a thread to whine about it. If you don't like using subcaps stay on Skyrim killing wolves for experience. I play since 2006 and I'm very happy about this change.
CRY SOME MOAR
This is the only poast that offends me. Look at my killboard. I have 100s of pvp kills, hardly any big losses, and not a single kill in a super cap. The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:30:00 -
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Tallest !!
Giv'me more range on my Talos, I can't hit this scrub with my sword !!
Do it NAO !
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Angel Lust
Vikinghall
27
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Posted - 2011.11.24 18:34:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Tallest !!
Giv'me more range on my Talos, I can't hit this scrub with my sword !!
Do it NAO !
Use orish bow... and stealth |
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