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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2012.01.15 18:50:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Idon't want to see 1000 rifters beat 100 supers. I don't want to see online player numbers drop and drop and drop.
100 rifters can't beat 100 supers without a hictor or dictor.
Also why someone bring out 100 supers without a support fleet? No support fleet for your supers? Then diaf like you deserve. |
The D1ngo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:14:00 -
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xxxak wrote:Ejit wrote:Bit early for drinking isn't it? 1) It's 5 pm somewhere.
It's shower time somewhere...drop the soap |
Rediablo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:23:00 -
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A whining 0.0'er. Ahh don't ya just love a new w(h)ine(r)-or better still an embittered old one. Shucks don't the man like it when anything not going his 0.0 way ? Well w(h)ine away bud and if you pack up may I extend a 'good riddance to you and yours'. Not all vets are bitter. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
139
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:54:00 -
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3-year not-quite-bitter not-quite-vet here, but in a corp with many from-Beta *not bitter* vets:
OP is a sanctimonious, self-righteous, pompous, entitlement-mentality,..., ******* prat.
Begone, and good bloody riddance!
Whinging, spoiled, rich little ****.
E: What's a "Dreak," by the way? I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
ChakanForever
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:57:00 -
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I sometimes wonder why I even bother dicking around with a hundred market orders. Grinding missions. Grinding Incursions. Why bother. We have Joe Blo who will just plex his way out of it. Yes, I understand this is a video game and you judge the value of said game on the amount of fun it offers; but Eve is different in that we have the single shard mentality. I believe PLEX distorts that reality in addition to bots being a part of the game. Yes, I recognize bots exist in all games but it should be pretty evident that bots in Eve affect the game much differently than a bot in WoW. I know it's somewhat dishonest to say Eve has become (and almost became) a pay-to-win type of game. Regardless though this thread gives at least a little plausibility to the idea; which for me ruins the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" mentality. It doesn't kill it. It just neuters it. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
8
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:02:00 -
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I'm so rich I have other people post in the forums for me. True story. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
140
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:07:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:the moment you told how rich you were i could not take you seriously.
Perhaps you should tell us about all of the catwalk models you are banging as well
I'd like to think/hope/pray that even the most trashy Western female cliche wouldn't let the likes of that put its' p-e-n-i-s inside them...
If not, then we really are living in the End-Times...
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
32
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:12:00 -
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I thought supercap pilots were all alts trained specifically for that purpose. I mean, nobody is crazy enough to train on their main for a ship that you can never dock, never leave, and never move without a cyno. Right? Right??
I know a lot of 5+ year vets too, and of those the overwhelming majority who aren't bittervets have the (SP-oriented) goal of being able to fly every subcap with perfect skills. Cap warfare has been **** for as long as I've been playing game, 2007ish. I'm truly amazed that people still expect it be some end-game panacea. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
P42ALPHA
DEAD-ON
34
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:44:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Dear 0.0 bittervets with misguided views,
I donGÇÖt no why I am writing a letter to you! I have been forced to write this letter by better informed veterans.
GÇÿTo be honest IGÇÖm not bothered or sorry about the fact that nerfs are coming to your supers. Basicly it was yourfault anyways.
IGÇÖm going to run you through the dumb mistakes you made. Firstly you hotdrop them left right and centre which most people now is boring and risk averse cowardism, you have come to rely on a single catch all overpowered ship and have forgotten how to actually maintain a balanced fleet made of multiple ship types. GÇÿSecondly your dumb you live in null sec a high risk crime area and your thick enough to napfest your aAllienses. I wouldnt do that in a million years.
But anyways I donGÇÖt feel sorry for you and Im not going to ShoW any Sympath or remose remores.
YourS Sincerly
Lady Spank, from a more fun way to play eve
+1 "All hail Wang ... the little fella in Command. When 'trouble' starts to spread, I'm sure he will rise to the occasion."
Azahni Vah'nos (Best reply ever) |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
140
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:53:00 -
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Andski wrote:xxxak wrote:I don't want to see 1000 rifters beat 100 supers. i do
I actually agreed with, and +1'ed an Andski post...
.../Me sighs--What is this world coming to, eh?
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1548
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Posted - 2012.01.15 21:08:00 -
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why hasn't progodlegend kicked this guy for making such bad posts |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
516
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Posted - 2012.01.15 21:34:00 -
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I think mittens needs to tell progodlegend that xxxak needs to ~sleep with the fishes~, see? |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
152
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Posted - 2012.01.16 11:14:00 -
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xxxak wrote: I bought it with Plex, and I have an almost unlimited amount of Plex in my RL bank account (Imagine about 10 of your parent's houses).
So, let me get this straight. You have $4.5-5 Million (CAD) And yet your life is so boring that you actually still log into the game. Then you try to over compensate for your small **** and go on a forum and make a statement like that.
I must say, you fail at EVE for being 5 years old and have to use PLEX to buy your stuff. You fail at RL because you're "rich" and "so busy" but yet still have the time to play videogames. James Hetfield, can you please hit the bottle again and make good music? |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
476
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Posted - 2012.01.16 12:14:00 -
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I would have thought that the anti-mittani would be nicer... - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
217
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Posted - 2012.01.16 15:50:00 -
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OP is bad. But it does seem clear that no one in their right mind should want their character to buy a supercap.
Many of the responses to the op say that he is doing it wrong. I agree being a supercap pilot in this game would suck. Is this a problem at all? Is owning a supercap supposed to suck?
I don't fly supercaps and probably never will unless they can be used for something other than the extremely rare cap fight or the extremely boring pos bash. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2704
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nice necro. AlsoGǪ Bumblefck wrote:Here's an idea xxxak, why don't you go on top secret combat patrol with your Drake doing 600 EM DPS per second? GǪwait what?! He was the DPSPS guy? Well, that explains a thing or twoGǪ
Indeed lol
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Gallente Citizen 20120114
Kerensky Initiatives
2705
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nice necro. AlsoGǪ Bumblefck wrote:Here's an idea xxxak, why don't you go on top secret combat patrol with your Drake doing 600 EM DPS per second? GǪwait what?! He was the DPSPS guy? Well, that explains a thing or twoGǪ
Indeed lol
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
233
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:08:00 -
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Andski wrote:why hasn't progodlegend kicked this guy for making such bad posts For some unknowable reason lots of corps don't consider bad posting grounds for being kicked.
I have no idea why. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
52
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:24:00 -
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Cearain wrote:OP is bad. But it does seem clear that no one in their right mind should want their character to buy a supercap.
Many of the responses to the op say that he is doing it wrong. I agree being a supercap pilot in this game would suck. Is this a problem at all? Is owning a supercap supposed to suck?
I don't fly supercaps and probably never will unless they can be used for something other than the extremely rare cap fight or the extremely boring pos bash.
Having put myself in the position of CEO if only in my mind of a huge Alliance, I asked myself. What do I want, a Titan or 30 Dreads at the ready? Titan lost.
I asked myself, whay do I want a super carrier or 15 carriers at the ready, what do I want?
Of course if I were the CEO I'd be thinking common sense and what best served my alliance, not the very counter intuitive policies in EVE of how much ISK can I burn in as short of time and what is the fastest way to **** people over?
Hence, why I am neither a CEO or a super Cap pilot.
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
219
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:25:00 -
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Good points. I haven't really looked at from the perspective of a ceo.
As a player the question is would I rather buy a supercarrier that I have to sit in all the time (or train an alt for the purpose of sitting in it) or several carriers/dreads that I can dock and use whenever? After the nerf this seems a very easy question to answer. So yeah op is doing it wrong.
Buying supercaps and eagles both just seem to be a bad decision in this game. Is this the intent?
Ocih wrote:Cearain wrote:OP is bad. But it does seem clear that no one in their right mind should want their character to buy a supercap.
Many of the responses to the op say that he is doing it wrong. I agree being a supercap pilot in this game would suck. Is this a problem at all? Is owning a supercap supposed to suck?
I don't fly supercaps and probably never will unless they can be used for something other than the extremely rare cap fight or the extremely boring pos bash. Having put myself in the position of CEO if only in my mind of a huge Alliance, I asked myself. What do I want, a Titan or 30 Dreads at the ready? Titan lost. I asked myself, whay do I want a super carrier or 15 carriers at the ready, what do I want? Of course if I were the CEO I'd be thinking common sense and what best served my alliance, not the very counter intuitive policies in EVE of how much ISK can I burn in as short of time and what is the fastest way to **** people over? Hence, why I am neither a CEO or a super Cap pilot.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
315
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Posted - 2012.01.16 18:33:00 -
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/me goes to Battleclinic and looks up the OP
Known ships of the last 3 months Capsule Hurricane Rifter Armageddon Scimitar
Sounds like a srs bizness supercap pilot to me |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
58
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Posted - 2012.01.16 19:42:00 -
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digitalwanderer wrote:Example....Titan version of a black ops BS. Has the same damage and resists as a regular titan, but ditches the doomsday but can cloak and warp out, and jumprange is increased over a regular titan, without the need for a cyno being at the destination at all, and with the room freed up by not having the doomsday onboard, the ship maintenance bay is far larger than a regular titan(think 10x larger here), so that a decent sized attack fleet can be formed as they leave the maintenance bay the instant the ship arrives on location with no warning to those being attacked from their scouts....It also has the ability to dock given the brutal training requirements, so having a holder alt is extremely unlikely. Just a quick idea and not meant to be perfect, and i'm sure there are other good configurations to think about, and it's not so much about being overpowered, but catching hostiles with their pants down, anywhere and at any time with no warning at all... That would make pvp a bit more exciting and umpredictable to say the least...
I no longer believe you have been playing 9 years because of this post. sure your toon may be 9 years old, but you as an EVE player.....not so much
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
18
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Posted - 2012.01.16 20:18:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Dear 0.0 bittervets with misguided views,
I donGÇÖt no why I am writing a letter to you! I have been forced to write this letter by better informed veterans.
GÇÿTo be honest IGÇÖm not bothered or sorry about the fact that nerfs are coming to your supers. Basicly it was yourfault anyways.
IGÇÖm going to run you through the dumb mistakes you made. Firstly you hotdrop them left right and centre which most people now is boring and risk averse cowardism, you have come to rely on a single catch all overpowered ship and have forgotten how to actually maintain a balanced fleet made of multiple ship types. GÇÿSecondly your dumb you live in null sec a high risk crime area and your thick enough to napfest your aAllienses. I wouldnt do that in a million years.
But anyways I donGÇÖt feel sorry for you and Im not going to ShoW any Sympath or remose remores.
YourS Sincerly
Lady Spank, from a more fun way to play eve
How many times were you hotdropped by a solo SC?
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
58
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Posted - 2012.01.16 20:30:00 -
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finding the person responsible for necro'ing a dead thread is like expecting someone to own up to of farting in a crowded elevator. |
shannon johanson
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.16 20:55:00 -
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xxxak wrote:CCP, with its new Crucible patch, has utterly ruined the end-game, aka Supercapitals. I know, the whiners are already screaming, "EvE doesn't have an end-game." Bullocks.
I've played this game for 5+ years, and the vast majority of "bittervets" I know own caps and own supercaps, or want super caps. No one has the long term "goal" of being a Battleship jocky/cannon fodder. At least, no one who will play EvE long-term.
The nubs who fly Dreaks in Level III missions come and go. They don't contribute much to industry, they don't contribute much to the politics of EvE, and they don't contribute much as FC or any of the other roles that keep the "sandbox" of EvE running.
I don't give much of a **** about what happens to my own super. For one thing, I bought it with Plex, and I have an almost unlimited amount of Plex in my RL bank account (Imagine about 10 of your parent's houses). Furthermore, being extremely busy in RL, I have not had time to log into EvE for any reason other than to change skills. So, as for my supercap, let it burn, let it die, let it rot in space. I will either Plex for another one, or fly a 'Nado, which looks more fun anyways.
But I am the Anti-Mittani.* Unlike him and his dark Horde, I do not want to see New Eden burn. I don't want to see 1000 rifters beat 100 supers. I don't want to see online player numbers drop and drop and drop. I don't want this game to go in the direction of SWG -- which died a horrible, twisted death when the Devs tried to appeal to the masses and the kiddies and the nubtards.
I was on the Something Awful forums long, LONG before The Mittani. I saw the first skirmishes between SA, 4chan, THWF, Gen May, and others. I understand their goals and motivations. And I loath them.
Come at me, bro.
TL;DL -- EvE is not a fun game; crying about my super; my tears, they fuel you. My tears, best tears.
*OTOH, perhaps he is right. EvE is not a fun game.
"you can afford 10X my parents' house, eh?" really??? both of my parents, god bless their souls are dead, you ninny. so you mad , m8? you mad because you can't fly a drake in a level 3 and pwn it? Are you stuck in your supercap because you weren't smart enough to make a babysitter. Nulli secunda, hmm? I remember you all too dearly. Do the letters P L mean anything to you? or maybe the word SWAT? roflmao. Nulli secunda please. come wash my supercap and maybe I'll spare yours. beggarnine please. |
Tanaka Atsuko
MARS. NEM3SIS.
31
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Posted - 2012.01.17 00:41:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Dear 0.0 bittervets with misguided views,
I donGÇÖt no why I am writing a letter to you! I have been forced to write this letter by better informed veterans.
GÇÿTo be honest IGÇÖm not bothered or sorry about the fact that nerfs are coming to your supers. Basicly it was yourfault anyways.
IGÇÖm going to run you through the dumb mistakes you made. Firstly you hotdrop them left right and centre which most people now is boring and risk averse cowardism, you have come to rely on a single catch all overpowered ship and have forgotten how to actually maintain a balanced fleet made of multiple ship types. GÇÿSecondly your dumb you live in null sec a high risk crime area and your thick enough to napfest your aAllienses. I wouldnt do that in a million years.
But anyways I donGÇÖt feel sorry for you and Im not going to ShoW any Sympath or remose remores.
YourS Sincerly
Lady Spank, from a more fun way to play eve
best post ive seen in a while
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1222
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Posted - 2012.01.17 04:23:00 -
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shannon johanson wrote:"you can afford 10X my parents' house, eh?" really??? both of my parents, god bless their souls are dead, you ninny. so you mad , m8? you mad because you can't fly a drake in a level 3 and pwn it? Are you stuck in your supercap because you weren't smart enough to make a babysitter. Nulli secunda, hmm? I remember you all too dearly. Do the letters P L mean anything to you? or maybe the word SWAT? roflmao. Nulli secunda please. come wash my supercap and maybe I'll spare yours. beggarnine please.
Well, an urn costs what, 50 bucks? So we can safely assume he has a thousand dollars. dAWwww, here he goes. -áPoastin' Drunk agin. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
224
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Posted - 2012.01.17 05:08:00 -
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You gotta admire a guy who criticizes a game he buys with real money. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1222
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Posted - 2012.01.17 05:14:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:You gotta admire a guy who criticizes a game he buys with real money.
But, Monies I Earn are free. dAWwww, here he goes. -áPoastin' Drunk agin. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
869
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Posted - 2012.01.17 07:00:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:digitalwanderer wrote:Example....Titan version of a black ops BS. Has the same damage and resists as a regular titan, but ditches the doomsday but can cloak and warp out, and jumprange is increased over a regular titan, without the need for a cyno being at the destination at all, and with the room freed up by not having the doomsday onboard, the ship maintenance bay is far larger than a regular titan(think 10x larger here), so that a decent sized attack fleet can be formed as they leave the maintenance bay the instant the ship arrives on location with no warning to those being attacked from their scouts....It also has the ability to dock given the brutal training requirements, so having a holder alt is extremely unlikely. Just a quick idea and not meant to be perfect, and i'm sure there are other good configurations to think about, and it's not so much about being overpowered, but catching hostiles with their pants down, anywhere and at any time with no warning at all... That would make pvp a bit more exciting and umpredictable to say the least... I no longer believe you have been playing 9 years because of this post. sure your toon may be 9 years old, but you as an EVE player.....not so much
digital has been around a very, very long time. I believe we were both in beta together.
In case you didn't get the point, he is suggesting that SuperCap preform more of a vital logistical and/or troop carrying role that requires them to actually go to the system, yet still be survivable.
Obviously that was off the cuff, and countless variations could be considered, but generally keeping with the theme of facilitating fleet jumps to a combat zone, and possibly providing close support capabilities while there, but leaving the heavy hitting to the Dreads.
It's a more logical, more believable, and more enjoyable premise than what we had (or currently have for that matter).
1: SuperCaps should be there to support a mixed conventional and cap fleet. 2: SuperCaps should preform vital functions that no other ship in existence can. 3: SuperCaps should give the rest of your fleet an advantage, as well as a vulnerability.
PS: Necro is bad. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
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