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Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:39:00 -
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Just undo all that has been done in SOV (back to 2007 era) and fix those god for awful POS mechanics.
Why can't I repackage a ship in a POS, wtf. |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
801
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:44:00 -
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also, when are ESS being fixed?
or does everyone just pretend they never happened? |
Jack Marshal
The Malleus Maleficarum Random-Violence
33
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:51:00 -
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Why in the **** should we bother given suggestions when Fozzy Doesn't listen anyways as we saw with the WormHole mass based jump range
since the change 20 of us have not been able to do anything and we are plagued by BLOB's because we cant do anything (Thanks for that fozzy)
I hope Fozzy run rabid with null-sec and kills the rest of the player base in eve
CCP doesnt Listen, and just is driving to get more blob fights they have killed small gang fights
Fozzy has personally killed the groups under 50 in the ability to use capitals in PVP
Thanks Fozzy, BTW he didn't READ the 1,300 post on the wormhole mass based jump range OR the CSM in charge of it so why do you think he is going to bother reading these?
Good luck Null Sec, hahaha now your going to get Fozzy love ! I hope he screws up your game dynamics ! If your a Huge alliance or Coalition Im sure you will like the changes CCP supports You-Tube Mega-Fights, not the small gang stuff.
BTW minecraft is going well, all my people have had a great time on that instead of eve. We are plexing now, since were not paying for service that the customer support flagrantly ignors its consumers. |
Sigras
Conglomo
860
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Posted - 2014.09.11 21:56:00 -
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Jack Marshal wrote:BTW minecraft is going well, all my people have had a great time on that instead of eve. We are plexing now, since were not paying for service that the customer support flagrantly ignors its consumers. LOL if you think that buying PLEX doesnt support CCP monetarily, I can see why you suck at Eve... the minerals you mine are free right? |
MASSADEATH
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:04:00 -
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Being one of the small null sec alliances that fights the CFC and goons daily here is my take.
Even though we have 1300 in alliance and in the range of 60+ capitals we can never field them or we will be crushed. The speed at which the enemy can bridge ships in our area makes most of our capital usage rare and ninja in fashion. (in fact that goes for subcapitals as well)
The JB network allows the enemy to bridge ahead of us even using ceptors, it has basically made gate travel non existant in vast portions of null.
The defensive SBU ability is silly.
and the vast HP to take out structures and multi tiered timers actually makes it every hard for smaller groups to try and disrupt and hurt the enemy. Since they can travel vast distances with their capital forces to defend for timers.
so fast and quick attacks cannot be done. Even though most of the time there is no one around in most of the enemy space, the quick time to build a blob and move it is a huge restriction for small attacking forces.
Most of their vast area lies undefended 99% of the time, however timers allow these much larger numerical forces to bring blobs to bear, compound that with instant travel times for capital and subcapital forces, and it makes it almost impossable for smaller entities to take ground.
The enemy like in any war should have to choose where to place defensive fleets....and by that choice leave areas weak for attack.
Thats not the case now... they are equally positioned to defend everywhere.
I dont think "the alpha" wrecking ball ect is the issue.... the issue is the wrecking ball can be anywhere and everywhere instantly. Especially since they know when and where the timers will be.
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Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
118
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:07:00 -
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yay, another summit where nullsec gets to W/B/M/C and nothing gets done for anybody. Can we break this cycle finally so hisec can get some dev time? |
God Arthie
Steel and Strong
6
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:07:00 -
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CCP Fozzie, i hope you wouldn't take it personally and I'm not being rude or anything, but when you WILL get fired from CCP 80% of the people who play eve would be finally happy =). And I think many of those who left for other games, because of your bad judgment, will come back and EVE will grow and not rot. Hope you have a nice day. |
Copper Khai
10
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:08:00 -
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Jack Marshal wrote:Why in the **** should we bother given suggestions when Fozzy Doesn't listen anyways as we saw with the WormHole mass based jump range
since the change 20 of us have not been able to do anything and we are plagued by BLOB's because we cant do anything (Thanks for that fozzy)
I hope Fozzy run rabid with null-sec and kills the rest of the player base in eve
CCP doesnt Listen, and just is driving to get more blob fights they have killed small gang fights
Fozzy has personally killed the groups under 50 in the ability to use capitals in PVP
Thanks Fozzy, BTW he didn't READ the 1,300 post on the wormhole mass based jump range OR the CSM in charge of it so why do you think he is going to bother reading these?
Good luck Null Sec, hahaha now your going to get Fozzy love ! I hope he screws up your game dynamics ! If your a Huge alliance or Coalition Im sure you will like the changes CCP supports You-Tube Mega-Fights, not the small gang stuff.
BTW minecraft is going well, all my people have had a great time on that instead of eve. We are plexing now, since were not paying for service that the customer support flagrantly ignors its consumers.
Doesn't help to be negative. Fozzie's proven to be a great dev. Clearly smart and cares a lot about the game. He doesn't appear to have a shred of ego problems either.
The Bigger ships landing further away from the hole made closing holes a lot riskier - as it should be. Why give WH's an empire where they control the gates in. Instead let them be subject to more variables. Since it's lucrative. It also slows down the ISK grind for them. Makes sense to me.
The bigger picture is EVE nullsec problems are caused by the smart players collectively out thinking the smart devs - blobs! The large coalitions inevitably followed self interest in stead of community interest and have sat on their leads. Even if a spy were to offer CFC the N3 on a platter, Mittani would decline. What can CCP do about that?
I'm interested to see what CCP comes up with. There's no easy fix. Anything they develop - players will overcome if they can directly benefit, unfortunately for EVE and the greater good. |
Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
231
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:09:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:out of my cold dead hands will you take dominion sov away from me those terms are acceptable m
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy121/OJMcG/Oohcat.gif LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
Fonac
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:14:00 -
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I think the root of the problem of Alliances, 0.0 and income is the fact that the income level is from top to bottom, and not the opposite.
Top to bottom means that the alliance wallet is filled by stuff like moon mining, and tax from corporations.. Or whatever they can tax. This has the benefit of Alliances being able to pay large sums of srf and sov bills.... It also means that the alliance require such amount of isk to upheld these "arrangements ". The renter issue only came in to place when the moon mining was nerfed, and Alliances ran out of isk, and had to find new ways to pay their srf bills.
As it is right now, sov bills are obviously to cheap... The mere thought of it being feasible to rent out a system in such large scale is ludicrous. This should be nerfed, make an exponential increase of sov bills for every one more system you hold and make it way to expensive to own half the eden 0.0 landscape.
This in turn should open up the possibility to upgrade your own system to a much larger degree, better mining better ratting(all things that put the isk in the player wallet, and not the alliance wallet) make cloaking in one system impossible or hard(since you only have a few systems that is actually good.)
Other thing as I mentioned before is moon goo. This has got to stop being possible to passively mine. Put it into the hands of the player to actively mine! This also mean that an alliance can not control the isk of the player.
The added benefits of all this, is that Alliances will not be the rich power houses they are now, it also means all pos grinds because of an r64 moon will stop(everyone hates it...) and finally it means that srf is not a thing that should be expected as the player itself got the isk, and not the Alliance.
And for all the people who claims 0.0 is empty, I can only say that makes sense, would you like to live 100 meters from your enemy?... I would expect there to be some distance.. But attest I know exactly where they are, if I want to fight them.
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i hatechosingnames
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:18:00 -
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I'd like the ability for Alliances to be able to bribe NPC 0.0 corps (ie Serpentis, Guristas etc) with LP so we can dictate their docking rights.
Similar to faction warfare where opposing militia cannot dock, with enough LP paid each month we become their militia and no one else can dock. |
Skyy Dracon
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
7
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:34:00 -
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Fixing null-sec isn't that challenging. The answer isn't going to be popular or well received by the lesser informed or less forward thinking players but the answer simply boils down to force projection.
Right now the major alliances are able to project serious amounts of force over almost any distance with plenty of time to catch RF timers etc. This is the root of the problems with Sov warfare. Unless you belong to one of the major coalitions you are mostly impotent and unable to stake out your own niche in the universe (without renting it from those same power blocs.
Remove Jump bridges for all but Covert/Black ops ships Reduce fuel costs and appropriate. Remove Titan bridges for all but Covert/Black ops ships (reduce fuel consumption as appropriate.
Watch the coalitions devour themselves and finally allow small gangs to own/fight for space as was intended.
Allow Jump freighters to remain as is and increase/decrease their jump range as necessary to allow them to fuel the fighting. Allow Covert Cyno's to function for Covert Ops ships.
The problems with Sov control and warfare now stem from our ability to attack any system at any time without fear of not being able to mount defenses of our own systems in time. Remove this ability from the major alliances and they will canibalize themselves and we will begin to see smaller groups of player excerpt control of "reasonable" tracts of space instead of the large swathes of "dead space" we have controlled by the larger alliances.
Look at your travel/combat logs for example of [RZR] Owned Tenal for example we own dozens of systems that rarely see use let alone PvP combat. Mush less combat for control f those systems. We own them simply because we can. |
Skyy Dracon
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:38:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:I hope sov is based on system activity and population. Should have to live in your space to own it. like I said in my post on the topic in this thread take away jump bridges and non covert Cynos and the large alliances will dissolve into cannibalism leaving room for smaller entities to fill the subsequent voids. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:43:00 -
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Fonac wrote:... This should be nerfed, make an exponential increase of sov bills for every one more system you hold and make it way to expensive to own half the eden 0.0 landscape... Just means they will break Alliances into 2-3 parts, keeping them in the Collation.
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Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
177
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:44:00 -
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don't believe the hype.
you make ask for some stuff but just bare in mind 'they don't do change by committee'
so if they come up with some B>S that nobody wants, just remember they wont do a thing to change it.
OF COURSE THE WILL, ITS NULL, THEY BEND OVER BACKWARDS FOR YOU LOT! twitter: @glasgowdunlop-á TDSIN Recruitment Director : Join 'TDSIN pub' Glasgow Meet Organiser
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Cherry Yeyo
84
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:46:00 -
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MASSADEATH wrote:Being one of the small null sec alliances that fights the CFC and goons daily here is my take. Even though we have 1300 in alliance and in the range of 60+ capitals we can never field them or we will be crushed. The speed at which the enemy can bridge ships in our area makes most of our capital usage rare and ninja in fashion. (in fact that goes for subcapitals as well)
Your alliance and your insane leader are the ones who insist on living deep within enemy territory where you're almost perma-camped into station daily. Egged on by nutters like Gevlon Goblin.
Have you considered taking on someone your own size? Look at your counterparts in Black Legion and PASTA. They have discovered fun and enjoyment again in lowsec where they can take fights and use capitals without the apex forces of the galaxy pouncing on them.
Should a tiny alliance with a handful of capitals be able to take on an ancient organization who have been through trials and tribulations and built an efficient and well-funded war machine? Probably not, thats not balanced gameplay.
If what you've been doing for years isnt working perhaps try something different? CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
734
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:46:00 -
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Skyy Dracon wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:I hope sov is based on system activity and population. Should have to live in your space to own it. like I said in my post on the topic in this thread take away jump bridges and non covert Cynos and the large alliances will dissolve into cannibalism leaving room for smaller entities to fill the subsequent voids.
I think you will also have to limit the head count of Alliances and remove Alliance to Alliance standings. Then let the cannibalism begin! Sauce with that?
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Fonac
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:49:00 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Fonac wrote:... This should be nerfed, make an exponential increase of sov bills for every one more system you hold and make it way to expensive to own half the eden 0.0 landscape... Just means they will break Alliances into 2-3 parts, keeping them in the Collation.
There must be counters to this. Even if there aren't it's still an issue, that sov is as cheap as it is... I agree however, I just didn't want to lengthen my post even further so I wrote it In as an example. |
Cherry Yeyo
84
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:51:00 -
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Skyy Dracon wrote:Fixing null-sec isn't that challenging Nullsec will be balanced and fixed when Fozzie and Rise can answer this question: How do you counter 250 Archons without the node crashing, and also how do you counter 250 Archons sitting on a cyno-jammer.
CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
309
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:52:00 -
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Fonac wrote:Sniper Smith wrote:Fonac wrote:... This should be nerfed, make an exponential increase of sov bills for every one more system you hold and make it way to expensive to own half the eden 0.0 landscape... Just means they will break Alliances into 2-3 parts, keeping them in the Collation. There must be counters to this. Even if there aren't it's still an issue, that sov is as cheap as it is... I agree however, I just didn't want to lengthen my post even further so I wrote it In as an example.
How can you limit human social interaction? |
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Noriko Mai
1487
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:53:00 -
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Ace Echo
The Shadow Raiders Fleet Coordination Coalition
71
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:00:00 -
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Some thoughts on sov:
There's plenty of incentive to be big. The blocs don't own the space 'Just because they can', although it might be a minor incentive. More systems meant more outposts, more industry slots, more systems for ratting, and more moon goo.
If CCP wants to make null a place less dominated by giant coalitions, they shouldn't give them a reason to grow big in the first place. Because, we all know that if there's any incentive for an action in eve, the players will capitalize on it, no matter how obscure or discouraging the devs make it.
I have to leave for dinner, so won't go into details, but that's my 2c. GùÄ_GùÄ |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
205
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:00:00 -
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I have a few more tangential ideas on Sov..
The Grind, as it stands now, no one likes. It's a pain in the ass for both the attacking and defending fleets, anything that can be done to fix or lessen that should be.. but what that is? I don't know.
So, on to the tangential parts :)
Incursions.. They are finally viable in Nullsec, that's great, but still half the time are only going to be run to clear the Cynojammer.. My suggestion is it's a Sansha Invasion, they should be attacking Sov. The Outposts, the POS's, the POCO's, the PI equipment on the ground.. everything. And unopposed Incursion should withdraw with the space being listed as Sansha, and with nothing left. It gives them a reason to run it, it also opens a chance for other Alliances to attack when they know much of their forces are occupied elsewhere.
Outpost Defences.. Anything else think it's silly that I can have guns for a small POS, but not for an Outpost? Outposts should by default able to have POS Guns.. ideally with upgrades, I'd like to see new lines of Anti-Capital/Super weapons.. "Doomsday" turrets, ECM that would be able to Jam a Mom or Titan, etc.. Something to make taking them a fight..
Gate Guns.. You own the system, why can't you put guns on them?
Gonna make a link to Incursions here again.. There are pirate NPC's in your space, and in some cases, pirate Sov bordering your space.. Seems kinda lame that all they do is just sit around in belts and gates.. Why not have them get a little smarter? Rogue Drones if I remember right will camp on JB's.. Expand this to the rest.. hell have they camp, and even randomly engage targets in your sov.. POS's.. Safespots.. Outposts.. The lower the sec, the stronger the NPC presence would be. And make it like belts, the longer they are ignored, the stronger they get.. One day maybe it's just a few ships.. ignored for few weeks it might turn into a strong NPC fleet.
I've intentionally avoided what to do about timers, and how much grinding you all are doing.. I'll let people who do far more of that than I go into that.. cause honestly, while I have some ideas, nothing I've thought out really jumps out to me as being a real solution, or even an improvement.. more of a just moving the pain around lol. |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
205
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:03:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:How can you limit human social interaction? You can't.. I mean Coalitions already are an entity that doesn't formally exist in Eve's code, but yet has come to be. There's nothing you can do to make groups not work together.. If they can't do it under an ingame umbrella, then they just set each other blue make a few chat channels and a website, and you're off to the races.. see CFC.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea that you want to happen, it just won't work. |
Sigras
Conglomo
863
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:04:00 -
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Cherry Yeyo wrote:how do you counter 250 Archons sitting on a cyno-jammer. The answer to that is simple... GO AROUND!
Sure you can slam your light infantry into an entrenched spartan phalanx formation, or you can not be an idiot and attack somewhere else! |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
735
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:07:00 -
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I'm sure it goes without saying that cracking the Sov nut is difficult problem that everyone wants solved.
What I address is this: Whoever gets credit for crafting the solution needs a reward like none other. I mean a solid gold medal with "I WON EVE" engraved in it with diamonds, to be presented in Iceland at a ceremony that would make the Queen jealous. Make it happen CCP.
Okay - on with the gear grinding CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
301
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:16:00 -
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- Change the Titan bridge mechanic from a "push" to a "pull" so that you actually have to put the ship at risk. That would make power projection much more risky.
- Limit Alliance-to-Alliance blue standing to 2-3 entitys.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:46:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:- Limit Alliance-to-Alliance blue standing to 2-3 entitys. Then it'll be done on the Corp level. There is nothing, NOTHING, you can do in Eve to keep people from working together. |
Ranamar
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
68
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:48:00 -
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I think we all agree that EHP-based sov objectives generally suck. If we're going to have any EHP-based sov grinding things, it would be good if they encouraged fleets that arrived when the timer ticks over to fight, while minimizing the amount of boring shooting or repairing to be done if the other side doesn't show up. Somebody else has noted that these big EHP walls are a particularly strong example of "you must be this tall, or very, very stubborn, to ride." My personal hobby-horse idea to make EHP at timer exit bigger than EHP long after timer exit is a slowly decaying resist profile on structures, instead of the current binary situation.
That said, timers encourage cramming as many warm bodies as possible into a system at a single moment, which is where I'd point my finger if asked why there are all these huge coalitions. The EHP walls are obnoxious but can be dealt with if you have sufficient tenacity. The fear that the other side will come up with more and scarier warm bodies is what produces the current cold-war-style clumping of alliances. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1992
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:48:00 -
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I wonder what the Nullsec changes will be...
Is it too late to put my 2 cents into that discussion? If not, whom do I toss a quick summery to? EVE needs more Pssshhhh |
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