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Luthair StoneDog
Gallente
Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:43:00 -
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The domi is an incredibly popular battleship... but the grand majority of players regard her (and a couple of other bs) as hideous malformed monstrosities in the looks department. On teamspeak.. people call my domi "the walrus" and other things that are slightly too rude to post.
Thing is.. the Brutix, which is a very good looking ship, shares an obvious design lineage with the Dom. The Brutix has an even larger forehead in comparison to the rest of the ship, but this is offset by the large 'chin', which gives the Brutix a very aggressive visage. Additionally, they both share a tapered stern, but the straight back of the Brutix makes this feature much more appealing.
So I sat down today and got sketching. I took a Dominix and added a chin and raised the stern to give her a straight back. I kept most of the Domi intact so she would be familiar, but I feel the change makes her look a lot better. Please tell me what you think.
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/hdd/Dominixfacelift.jpg
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:50:00 -
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Put Oveur's avatar face and voila! 
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Teccmo
Gallente
Praetorian Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:51:00 -
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Eh, I don't think the domi should ever be "good lookin". She's a brute, and if you set her up right she can tank with the best of them. I remember having a good laugh in TS as a few corpmates and I had a few Domi's together and someone kindly referred to us as "The @$$face Fleet". As it's supposed to be a ship from a different era in Gallente history I think the looks are just fine. The chin extension looks good though, nice drawing.
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Shadowjet
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:51:00 -
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a lot better, maybe if the "chin" came down straight a bit it would look scarier =]
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Anwyl
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:52:00 -
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not bad looking, but it doesn't have that Gallente feel to it, think it's the sharp corners and rivets
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Luthair StoneDog
Gallente
Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Luthair StoneDog on 05/08/2006 20:54:47
Hey don't worry.. I love my domi. Though when more than one gets together.. we usually get a "OH GOD! Walrus orgy!" or something similar.
Just for comparison.. here is a wee screeny of the hambeast in her present form.
http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/dominix.jpg
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Leet Al
Amarr
The Phoenix Council
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:57:00 -
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You somehow made a fugly ship just ugly. You are a crazy man.
In the fluff or whatever you want to call it, it says the Dom is old and it has creaky knees. Maybe it could be implimented by some sort of fluff upgrade during the jump to kali, should this happen.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:58:00 -
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I like the little 'jut' in the chin you got there, looks cool. On the other hand, its a wee bit sleek looking for the domi. When they come out with the T2 battleships I'm sure it will get a pretty cool facelift.
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Aeaea
XanoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:04:00 -
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Somehow I don't see why an ancient ship should look "beautiful," its a very utilitarian ship, and its looks should reflect that. Oh, and the Obelisk also closely resembles the Brutix.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 05/08/2006 22:00:00
I think the Dominix is pretty cool as it is, except it would be a lot better if the top of it was straight, and not slanted downwards so much, because that's what gives the ship the completly deformed silly appearance... Also it should be bigger and have a giant drone bay right in the front, possibly with little moving robot arms in it for moving and storing drones, now that would be sweet... 
Dominix
Here is a sketch I did for a redesign, like the original posters sketch the top of the ship is acctually paralell to its flightpath so to speak.
DominixMkII
And then there is my really old design for the Dominix MkII which I did when there was still talk about more Tier 1 ships being added to the game so every race would get an EW/Utility battleship... Too bad every race except Caldari got something they already have instead with the Tier 3 ships...
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HippoKing
Caldari
The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:57:00 -
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Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have?
Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships.
Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
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Waragha
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:59:00 -
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 Originally by: HippoKing
Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have?
Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships.
Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
Caldari are supposed to be ugly :)
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spurious signal
Caldari
Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:00:00 -
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The dominix is a beautiful beast.
She is simply misunderstood and unconventional. Don't try and make her conform to your limited, predictable and pedestrian tastes.
Let something different survive for those of us who see her true beauty.
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have?
Caldari look appropriatly for their racial characteristic (grey cardboardbox-like).
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Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships.
And the Caracal is... phui, not a good looking ship at that! Boy!
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Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
I still hold that it's the GALLENTE SHUTTLE that's the most beautiful ship in game.
Welcome back, by the way, good to put the kitty back in his box?
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HippoKing
Caldari
The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: HippoKing
Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have?
Caldari look appropriatly for their racial characteristic (grey cardboardbox-like).
Doesn't mean I have to like it 
Originally by: Ithildin
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Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships.
And the Caracal is... phui, not a good looking ship at that! Boy!
I though that at first, but it's grown on me. Probably spending so long in a cerb.
Originally by: Ithildin
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Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
I still hold that it's the GALLENTE SHUTTLE that's the most beautiful ship in game.
Have you ever seen a nyx in combat? I swear I felt like jerking off after baryon ganked me with his on SiSi in RMR testing.
Originally by: Ithildin
Welcome back, by the way, good to put the kitty back in his box?
You bet 
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Benefactor
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Benefactor on 05/08/2006 22:22:18
I will DESTROY YOOOOU! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:36:00 -
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The thing that annoys me the most with the domi is that big silvery part. I mean what the hell? 
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WildAmishRose
Caldari
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:46:00 -
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I wish the dominix looked more like the rogue drone dominix. Maybe if the face was a touch more skull like, instead of just wierd lookin.
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Hydrian Alante
The Loot Company
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:56:00 -
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Hey Noriath
Have you looked at the Hyperion? CCP stole your "engine around ship" design. 
I really like your pencil scretchwork of the dommi looks really cool. Can you make some more?
/me can¦t wait to see the redesigned Dominix Model in Kali. ;)
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Ambrose
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ambrose on 06/08/2006 01:02:04
Your Domi looks like a choo-choo train, I like it.
http://www.eve-online.com/conceptart/15052001/n_05.jpg is the original concept art, and I think that looks a lot better then current.
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Wat0721
GalacTECH Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:13:00 -
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EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And about Caldari whining about ugly ships...
Honestly, the Moa's great looks cancel out the blackbird's eyecancerpwnage, so just deal with it, geez.
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Obmud
Amarr
A.W.M
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:44:00 -
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It looks like jay lenno o_O
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Aeaea
XanoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
Edited by: Noriath on 05/08/2006 22:00:00
Dominix
Here is a sketch I did for a redesign, like the original posters sketch the top of the ship is acctually paralell to its flightpath so to speak.
DominixMkII
And then there is my really old design for the Dominix MkII which I did when there was still talk about more Tier 1 ships being added to the game so every race would get an EW/Utility battleship... Too bad every race except Caldari got something they already have instead with the Tier 3 ships...
You have turned a turd into a flower.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:40:00 -
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after spending the better part of 2 years looking at the Domi every night, I can safely say...
its fugly, but i wubs it anyway
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Mr Peanut
The New Empire
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Peanut on 06/08/2006 03:11:02
I like the Domi. It has a cute look in an immature child-like way (and I'm embarassed to refer to most things as "cute"). It doesn't look mean, but IMO it is adorable.
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Pointless Vengence
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:38:00 -
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The drawing is cool . . . but it makes the Domi look like an upside down boot . . .
IÆve always seen the Domi look as reflective of its massive drone bay making it swell. Right now it looks like a pile of manure . . . which is appropriate since it is constantly swarming with fly like drones . . .
While making it look like a boot would still work (smelly boot swarming with flies), I feel any attempt to beautify the thing would be rather
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Sarah Le'Stal
Gallente
Burning Nebula Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:39:00 -
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Oh yes, I am liking that Luthair. This should be part of the new graphics engine coming. Change the space ham into something much meaner looking.
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PCX339
Beasts of Burden
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.06 04:45:00 -
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Face it guys: they scanned in an athletic shoe, changed the colors, added some bulges and doodads and called it the Dominix.
I have more time in a Dominix than any other ship, but I have to agree its ugly.
I like that it's an ugly shoe: it keeps people underestimating us until we STOMP on them.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.06 05:23:00 -
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Dominix Redesigned...
I gave my redesign another go, made another a little more refined drawing... It's not really nice and cleaned up yet...
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2006.08.06 06:06:00 -
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Has anyone noticed the small poorly 'patched' area on the drives side right at 11oclock to the 'ear' area?
Or is this the only model I can get.
Damn used Domi salesman!
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.06 08:13:00 -
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That little silver spot?
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Lorette
Gallente
Mythian Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:01:00 -
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Ive got quite fond of my domi and its looks, sure its not going to win the Miss EVE pageant but at least its not a raven .
I find the overall shell is poor, but all the little details are quite nice.
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Da Death
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:03:00 -
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Turn the dominix around and its a shoe 
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
That little silver spot?
Its not a silver spot.
It is or appears to be 2 pieces of overlapping material that interrupt the line and color of the ship.
Driver side.
Zoom in close. The light even reflects off it differantly.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:41:00 -
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Hasn't anyone looked at my second redesign yet? I need recognition!
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Eximius Josari
Shadow Reavers
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:56:00 -
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How good can the Domi look with its face lifted even higher? It already looks too much like Joan Rivers.
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:59:00 -
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Asgerirjon is redesigning some old ships, right? Who do we have to bribe in order to get him to work on the Domi?
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Posted - 2006.08.06 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Azural Kane on 06/08/2006 10:04:25
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: HippoKing
Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have?
Caldari look appropriatly for their racial characteristic (grey cardboardbox-like).
Quote:
Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships.
And the Caracal is... phui, not a good looking ship at that! Boy!
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Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
I still hold that it's the GALLENTE SHUTTLE that's the most beautiful ship in game.
Welcome back, by the way, good to put the kitty back in his box?
So... it's a Caldari state requirement that ships have to look ugly and clunky in addition to being militarily sound? Caldari thrive off "maintaining the best technology possible over their enemies"... does that mean they have to be ugly, too? 
P.S. Amarr Shuttle looks > Gallente Shuttle.
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schurem
Anarchy Inc.
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.06 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
Hasn't anyone looked at my second redesign yet? I need recognition!
Recognized for greatness. I love the gaping maw idea. Its teh pwn. Wings or sail-like structures are reserved for the matari though. Still, a good B :)
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.06 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratus on 06/08/2006 12:24:04
I rather like the domi disign.
It's a unique. Special in it's own beautiful way.
Like the OPs pic too though.
Edit:
Nice one Noriath.
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locus 777
Gallente
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2006.08.06 13:07:00 -
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your design looks like a train without an arse and the brutix looks like a condom stuffed with walnuts. next to the bellicose its the ugliest ship in EVE. so to combine it with the domi is horrendous
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mr h4ppy
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Posted - 2006.08.06 13:59:00 -
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Leave it as it is, if anything paint it blue and paint an eye on iether side, then call it moby ****!
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Arkanor
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.06 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Put Oveur's avatar face and voila!
Dominix sales just increased 500%.
Originally by: Ghosthowl
WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face.
Originally by: HippoKing
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Chepe Nolon
New Order Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.06 15:11:00 -
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I like especially the mkII design presented. But couldn't that be the T2 Gallente BS ? A t2 dom is currently my (not-so-secret) wet dream.
The description of the dom says it's an old hog, and it should stay that way imho. And what's the whining about caldari? The scorp is the way coolest bs in eve. And the raven isn't as bad either. The charon is the coolest looking ship hands down. Yeah, I know it's a brick. But it's a cool brick!
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:12:00 -
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It would be nice to see some representation of the drones bay, but my biggest beef is the skin, oh well hopefully horrid brown will be gone with the graphics updates.
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Clais Monaige
Prodigy Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Clais Monaige on 06/08/2006 17:21:04
Originally by: Noriath
Hasn't anyone looked at my second redesign yet? I need recognition!
I like it, really, but imho it doesn't fit to the dominix' role as an ancient warhorse - it's simply too modern.
But i like your former concepts, especially the overhaul (not the mk2) - that's the way it should be done, imho. Make those "vents" into different drone launchers and it would be fine.
On the other hand it would be sufficient to me to bring some bay to the existing model, like the Megathron has now. Make it the refered gaping maw like a wale munching what comes across
Perhaps some little antennas like the t2 drone carrier boats, but NO WINGS please 
However, Dominix should stay a bulky ram, imho. 
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Krulla
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:29:00 -
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I like the Domi personally, but the problem is, it doesn't fit into the gallentean look; a couple of minor changes would go a long way towards both making it fit in and giving it a bit of a facelift.
For one, the model is too wide, and not high enough. A lot of the "older" gallentean ships (Maulus, Vexor, Celestis, etc) are higher than they are wide, and it is obvious that the Domi is supposed to be the Vexor's bigger brother; I propose simply stretching the model a bit, making it a bit thinner, and a bit higher.
Second, the colour scheme is all wrong. It is the only Gallente ship which has a tan/grey with a bit of green colour scheme; It should get a reskin to match the Vexor, a grey/gold one, or one to match the Celestis, a green/black metallic one.
Those two changes would mean it would keep the Domi look we've all either come to love or hate, while still giving it a bit of a facelift and making it fit into the rest of the Gallentean fleet
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Please, leave it. Gallente have good looking ships as it is. Please, think of the caldari. What do we have? Buzzard is cool, condor/crow are cool, kestrel, merlin and caracal aren't bad. That is our entire portfolio of nice looking ships. Gallente have a lot of nice ships, not to mention the best looking ship in the game (nyx).
Indeed Caldari don't have much to show. Kestrel and Ferox look decent, as do the new tier 2 BC and tier 3 BS at least judging by concept art. Cormorant's ok as well. Then there's Merlin, which is certainly one of the best-looking frigs in the game. But that's about it really. Though personally I don't find all that many nice-looking ships in any of the races' repertoire. Basically for me:
- Gallente: Tristan, Vexor and Dominix are decent, Incursus and Brutix are ok, Thorax would be awesome without the extra "testicle", but nice-ish as is, Megathron's nice as is the Catalyst, Thanatos and Nyx are awesome.
- Minmatar: Rifter (and even more so the Wolf!), Slasher and Cyclone look great, Typhoon is decent in a tube-ish kind of way. Upcoming BC and BS seem nice enough.
- Amarr: Curse and Heretic are very nice (it's all in the color, baby!), Punisher and Executioner are good-looking too. Prophecy is decent, and although I originally didn't like Apoc, I guess there's some majestic quality about it that can't be denied Abaddon also looks nice. The Avatar wtfpwns.
Might've missed a ship or two, but not so many total. Which makes me want to train all races all the more to get a larger selection of good-looking ships. What a pain
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.06 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Clais Monaige
I like it, really, but imho it doesn't fit to the dominix' role as an ancient warhorse - it's simply too modern.
Hmm, an old spaceship can still look modern IMO. Most Amarr designs for example are supposed to be thousands of years old...
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Revlam
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Posted - 2006.08.06 20:30:00 -
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I Love My space Whale. Free Willy !!
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mazzilliu
Caldari
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.06 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 06/08/2006 20:43:04
grr. and i find this out right after i finish making my sig. i'll have to remake it into a shoe or side of ham or something
edit: rwaaa didnt realize it was only a suggestion dominix. oh well. consider my sig my only contribution to the thread
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Posted - 2006.08.06 20:43:00 -
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first of all.. you all got it wrong..
the dominix looks like a bubblefish that accidentially swallowed grandpas third teeth...
oh and while im at it...
the incursus always goes \o.
the rifter looks like a megathron that has not been finished.
while the megathron looks like a lowrider rifter.
moa looks like a roadrunner with a rocket up his bum.
speaking of bums, the raven got a sewer drain pipe sticking out of his.
the machariel looks like two rusty boobies, that are about to enter hyperspace.
ferox is the cybernetic christmas tree, if viewed from above.
oh and another disturbing image, from the modules section:
the tractor beam icon looks like a toilet seat that gets blown up this exact moment.
and to the OP:
yeah, please, make the domi look nice, some day, but please, take that high heel outta its mouth ;)
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DeadRow
True Core
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Posted - 2006.08.07 00:25:00 -
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Just looks like the brutix design but with a domi skin. Leave the domi as it is, its beautiful!
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Andargor theWise
Disbelievers of Fate
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Posted - 2006.08.07 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Andargor theWise on 07/08/2006 01:00:48
Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
before i forget... isnt ccp at least a bit ashamed for stealing the b-wing design for the gallente destroyer (wotsitsnameagain)
B-Wing. Wrong direction.
Besides, did you know that flattened triangular ships were used in the RPG Traveller way before Star Destroyers were a glint in Lucas' eye?
So they can be similar, without having to feel ashamed...
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
Dominix Redesigned...
I gave my redesign another go, made another a little more refined drawing... It's not really nice and cleaned up yet...
Gimme more!
it's nice, maybe it loses a little bit of the Gallente feel, perhaps put some more engines on the back? Kinda like the Megathron y'know? a row/cluster of engines. It would be a departure of current dominix though.
Can you make one for Typhoon too? So it looks less like a thrashcan?
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla
Second, the colour scheme is all wrong. It is the only Gallente ship which has a tan/grey with a bit of green colour scheme; It should get a reskin to match the Vexor, a grey/gold one, or one to match the Celestis, a green/black metallic one.
I would love a green/black Dominix
Anything but that horrible brown.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath
Dominix Redesigned...
I gave my redesign another go, made another a little more refined drawing... It's not really nice and cleaned up yet...
Like it apart from the fins, a longer shape is much nicer though.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.08.07 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 07/08/2006 06:55:16
Yea, I don't know about the fins... I felt like it was missing a little extra fluff... To go with that Gallente Hotrod-ship mentality...
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Kaomi Zorbaz
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Posted - 2006.08.07 16:06:00 -
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I refer to it as the guppy or tadpole :)
And yeah,a more slender look wouldnt hurt the thing. Looks like it wants to ass over tea-kettle itself with the current design.
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Webster Carr
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Originally by: Noriath
Dominix Redesigned...
I gave my redesign another go, made another a little more refined drawing... It's not really nice and cleaned up yet...
I like this redesign a lot. It'd put my domi in drydock for this refit. 
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