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Kitty O'Shay Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.08 10:37:00 - [31] Next time, just play best 3 out of 5 on Connect 4 for each POS. Less lag that way. -- [THARS] is recruiting 1 ebil pirate. Be the one!
Bluestealth Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.08.08 12:31:00 - [32] Wait a sec, when did ASCN come in? Guess I havent been forum whoring as much as Munchy. GL to all.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 12:31:00 - [33] I had a pretty good time in C-J overall but then I was in a ceptor and not at the POS (had lots of corp mates going nuts about being unable to load the overview, activate modules etc.). After the first days teething trouble the organisation of the operation was excellent I felt. RA proved very hard to catch in their BS fleet (very good discipline, all aligned, awareness of scanner etc) so there were no meaty fights but still, after I switched to a pure support gang we got to gank a few RA bait ships at the gates each time dashing in and out before the RA sniper BS arrived, which was fun and we got a very nicely fitted HAC kill, which is always good. Overall I would score this conflict (from the small ships perspective) about a 6.5/10. I am sure we will be back when lag is no longer the deciding factor of POS battles.
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 12:51:00 - [34] Originally by: Bluestealth Wait a sec, when did ASCN come in? Guess I havent been forum whoring as much as Munchy. GL to all. ASCN decided to backstab another alliance, not that it's big news or something, they didn't even have to search for a credible pretext this time (Scorpion-class battleships or lonely hauler losses not being all that rare today). However, RA was there LONG before ASCN (ASCN was partly formed exactly after and because RA shattered XETIC's flank), and RA never forgets traitors and turncoats, so I guess that indeed, ASCN/AXE will need all the good luck they can get, soon (tm). Otherwise, props to everyone involved, for trying, and to RA for coming out of it with flying colours. --
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.08 12:57:00 - [35] I have to agree, those I oppose RA politics, I do agree their combat discipline is very good under military leadership. Dealing with them in the past did show a level of veteran status if Mactep and a few other leaders was around. Though I wish to see RA fall due to past dubiousness the last few weeks actions have been in their favor and it is credited only to their warriors flying in those fleets. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Major Tarsis Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.08 13:01:00 - [36] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Bluestealth Wait a sec, when did ASCN come in? Guess I havent been forum whoring as much as Munchy. GL to all. ASCN decided to backstab another alliance, not that it's big news or something, they didn't even have to search for a credible pretext this time (Scorpion-class battleships or lonely hauler losses not being all that rare today). However, RA was there LONG before ASCN (ASCN was partly formed exactly after and because RA shattered XETIC's flank), and RA never forgets traitors and turncoats, so I guess that indeed, ASCN/AXE will need all the good luck they can get, soon (tm). Otherwise, props to everyone involved, for trying, and to RA for coming out of it with flying colours. Can you explain when this occurred I missed this part of Eve History I must have been busy, in Shinra at the time, shooting XETIC station and fighting the XETIC fleets? MT
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.08 13:06:00 - [37] Really don't care about the smack etc. Just wanted to make a note that from my POV, it looks like RA are doing a damn good job at defending. Nice going.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.08 15:08:00 - [38] Just to add: Local count was around 290 during the pos engagement on day 3, because people were send out of the system (287 on my screenie). I read already alts talking about 600 people in c-j, which is just BS.
Rover Vitesse Gallente Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.08 15:18:00 - [39] Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 08/08/2006 09:57:01 Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar CCP fix the game b4 encouraging such warefare please. This game cannot support these numbers engaging and its really p1ssing a lot of players off. Taking nothing away from RA, gg and well done for fighting. everyone else seems to be able to carry on the game with large scale fleets etc. you should try engaging RA with some smaller blobs maybe? instead of the 400 man blobs you usually seem to use to take a system edit - spelling Capital ships need support. RA want to shoot capital ships. Capitals+Support+Defenders+drones and fighters= LAG. What can you not understand about this? We even put the second level of support outside the system. It's not a case of wanting to "outblob" them, it's a case of being able to defend your capital ship fleet. We're not taking about a stand-up slap-down gatefight. We're talking about trying to shoot down death star POS with lots of capitals, and defend those capitals at the same time. Rovers Chronicles
Dawn Princess The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Therem Harth ASCN decided to backstab another alliance... How exactly do you backstab someone that you have never been friendly towards?
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:39:00 - [41] Edited by: Therem Harth on 08/08/2006 16:40:34 Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: Therem Harth ASCN decided to backstab another alliance... How exactly do you backstab someone that you have never been friendly towards? You pass a stranger almost every day on the streets of your home town. You are both armed, but politely ignore each other. Then one day you see that same stranger beating off some thugs, pass him a few steps and then stick your knife in his ribs. Or, well, you try to. EDIT: due to e-o forums auth bugs --
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Therem Harth Edited by: Therem Harth on 08/08/2006 16:40:34 Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: Therem Harth ASCN decided to backstab another alliance... How exactly do you backstab someone that you have never been friendly towards? You pass a stranger almost every day on the streets of your home town. You are both armed, but politely ignore each other. Then one day you see that same stranger beating off some thugs, pass him a few steps and then stick your knife in his ribs. Or, well, you try to. EDIT: due to e-o forums auth bugs RA were always negative to us ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:45:00 - [43] Originally by: Major Tarsis Can you explain when this occurred I missed this part of Eve History I must have been busy, in Shinra at the time, shooting XETIC station and fighting the XETIC fleets? RA haven't been hostile to Shinra all the time either, as you should well know, and not even to [5] per se, until a quarrel over refining taxes broke out. Anyway, RA played major role in assault on Wicked Creek temporarily hed by XETIC back then (Fuzzy Kittens anyone?), and then spearheaded demolition of whatever weak defenses Tenerifis had. I can't exactly say whether RA forces played large role in the Immensea attacks at the time, as I seem to have forgotten. Maybe someone from E-R/Black Lance/former MAZA pilots remembers. --
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Grimpak RA were always negative to us I do not profess to intimate knowledge of internal ASCN processes related to standings, and so I won't argue otherwise, however I can clearly distinguish between "has slightly negative standings" and "has fleets sent to attack territory". I can also, with standard personal disclaimers, say that the difference between acting on a technical (not to mention even technically false) pretext and acting in earnest (defense or offense) is rather obvious to see. --
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 16:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Grimpak RA were always negative to us I do not profess to intimate knowledge of internal ASCN processes related to standings, and so I won't argue otherwise, however I can clearly distinguish between "has slightly negative standings" and "has fleets sent to attack territory". I can also, with standard personal disclaimers, say that the difference between acting on a technical (not to mention even technically false) pretext and acting in earnest (defense or offense) is rather obvious to see. they did had sent some small fleets and stuffs to southeast feythabolis prior to our incursion into their grounds. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 17:58:00 - [46] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Grimpak RA were always negative to us I do not profess to intimate knowledge of internal ASCN processes related to standings, and so I won't argue otherwise, however I can clearly distinguish between "has slightly negative standings" and "has fleets sent to attack territory". I can also, with standard personal disclaimers, say that the difference between acting on a technical (not to mention even technically false) pretext and acting in earnest (defense or offense) is rather obvious to see. they did had sent some small fleets and stuffs to southeast feythabolis prior to our incursion into their grounds. Lie.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 18:22:00 - [47] Coalition invide to CJ Don't be so serious, guys. It's just a game. ---- CEO.
Farscape Hw Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.08.08 18:22:00 - [48] Originally by: ArcheryTXS Originally by: Farscape Hw these threads are very interresting and i like them plz dont lock Yo , where r u been ? :) did not see u much around. ---------------------- And wnen u planning to come back , dear Coalition ? ;-) i went to syndicate and found bob have destroyed my killing grounds(goons are gone). now im back in venal being borred and getting sec back up.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 18:48:00 - [49] Originally by: nync Lie. Check ASCN killboards. Look for great mogul, and see where he lost his vagabond about a month ago. Small RA incursion, 1 carrier, about 5 or 6 pilots for about a week. We got a casus belli. Not that we needed one to help our allies in LV I guess.
Xianthar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 18:49:00 - [50] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Grimpak RA were always negative to us I do not profess to intimate knowledge of internal ASCN processes related to standings, and so I won't argue otherwise, however I can clearly distinguish between "has slightly negative standings" and "has fleets sent to attack territory". I can also, with standard personal disclaimers, say that the difference between acting on a technical (not to mention even technically false) pretext and acting in earnest (defense or offense) is rather obvious to see. your problably one of the same people that complains everytime we NAP someone. if we attack someone, you forum *** if we nap someone, you forum *** i'm confused, what exactly is it you want? not that it will in any way change what we do, i'm just curious. -xian
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 18:57:00 - [51] Originally by: Grimpak they did had sent some small fleets and stuffs to southeast feythabolis prior to our incursion into their grounds. I am sorry, but intelligence available to me, correlated to RA killboard (ASCN killboards do not allow easy back-in-time navigation for specified adversarial entity, I have had an ASCN CEO stating directly to me once that tracking losses is not a priority, and I have never heard of incidents of RA pilots missing an opportunity to report kills, even solo ones) doesn't indicate anything of the sort. Quite to the contrary, I see a lot of kills against RA in the HED pipe. Yes, RAT uses the same killboard. No, RAT are not RA alts. For the sake of shortening possible further moves to defend your pretext, I will also say that RA is not directly responsible for any actions of "RA-friendly" corporations, which, perhaps, could have ran smallish raids into Feythabolis (to call them fleets would be a massive exaggeration). However, even if they were in control, to my knowledge there was no approaches or protests or requests or even threats to reign in such corporations made by ASCN/AXE. It would also appear that RA fleet command is unaware of any organized fleet activity by the alliance as well. --
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.08 19:07:00 - [52] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Grimpak they did had sent some small fleets and stuffs to southeast feythabolis prior to our incursion into their grounds. I am sorry, but intelligence available to me Obvious your intelligence here is too limited. In fact it is plain wrong. Quote: It would also appear that RA fleet command is unaware of any organized fleet activity by the alliance as well. RA fleet command should keep closer tabs on its carriers then. A group of about 5 RA including a carrier intruded upon ASCN territory about a month ago. Like I wrote before, check our KB for Great Mogul and see when he lost his vaga to ASCN and where. Don't come blabbering and complaining when you don't know the facts TYVM.
Dirty Knave Gallente Damage Unlimited Inc Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.08 19:15:00 - [53] Edited by: Dirty Knave on 08/08/2006 19:20:35 All in all it was great fun. Ra did a great job in defending their last system. But like said before its much easier to defend your only system than to attack the enemies last system. I almost made it the 3 days w/o losing a ship untill the last engagement of the 3rd day I somehow got 6 carriers on me and died in about 15 sec. I warped to the POS and bounced right off the bubble for some stupid reason. Othwerwise I would still have my MegaT. As much as I hate you RA guys it was a GF. Just I ask 1 thing... please stop braging about all your CAP Ship kills when you never showed your own the whole siege except cynoing them in and out of the stn. You just sat your carriers at 1 of your 10 or so Large Battle POS and had your minions send drones at BS like me :(. So plz stop braging about CAP ship kills if you wont even show yours on the battle field. thanks and see you guys around... i'm sure I will
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.08 19:29:00 - [54] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ Don't be so serious, guys. It's just a game. Rofl. Ok that was funny.
Ka Ten Aliastra	Posted - 2006.08.08 19:49:00 - [55] ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. ------------------- Killing in Omist =)
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.08 20:02:00 - [56] not to mention RA putting up a pos in ASCN space and run a complex in ASCN space as well... ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Xade	Posted - 2006.08.08 20:42:00 - [57] From what i heard some coalition Dread losses have been petitioned because the characters CTD'd when the capital fleet jumped to C-J and when they logged back in they found themselves in pods. This from what i had been told had happened to a carrier who also logged off at a coalition pos the day before. current game machanics make ships warp off and disapear but somehow RA have found a way to get around this and i was wondering if RA would care to share how they managed these kills ? Oh and by the way these ships had NO Agression timer afterall they just jumped into the system and ctd'd and they don't warp away till their is no aggression timer so explain ??
Kha1n Caldari Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.08 21:06:00 - [58] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ HAHAHAHAHA
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.08.08 21:45:00 - [59] Edited by: Mariko San on 08/08/2006 21:46:23 Originally by: Ka Ten ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. Why do you (RA) change all system names on your killboard to "classified" - why not just leave them as they are? It stops people cross posting them that want to try to keep KBs accurate.
Stedanko No Crying In Space	Posted - 2006.08.08 22:07:00 - [60] Originally by: Mariko San Why do you (RA) change all system names on your killboard to "classified" - why not just leave them as they are? It stops people cross posting them that want to try to keep KBs accurate. Wait a day or 2.

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