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munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.08.08 23:54:00 - [61] Originally by: Mariko San Edited by: Mariko San on 08/08/2006 21:46:23 Originally by: Ka Ten ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. Why do you (RA) change all system names on your killboard to "classified" - why not just leave them as they are? It stops people cross posting them that want to try to keep KBs accurate. RA's killboard is programmed to not show the system that the killmail took place for 24 hours so their activities are harder to track. very smart IMO --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 01:29:00 - [62] Edited by: Therem Harth on 09/08/2006 01:30:42 Originally by: Malachon Draco RA fleet command should keep closer tabs on its carriers then. A group of about 5 RA including a carrier intruded upon ASCN territory about a month ago. Like I wrote before, check our KB for Great Mogul and see when he lost his vaga to ASCN and where. Don't come blabbering and complaining when you don't know the facts TYVM. Perhaps it doesn't occur to you that not all alliances operate the way ASCN does, and that an RA pilot can have <gasp> his own carrier to use as he seems fit, with a group of friends. Trespassing in your plex - yes. "Incursion" or "small fleet" - give me a break. Casus belli - oh, definitely, see above for the pretext. I also completely accept your explicit admission that the whole real reason for this endeavour was not a group of 6 RA pilots in your mostly unused plex, but a burning desire to help LV in exchange for future favours. My mission in this thread is thus accomplished, thank you very much. EDIT: less smack is good --
Aaron Static Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 04:31:00 - [63] Therem it sounds as though in your fantasy-land, that if a Russian citizen just so happened to be able to afford a tank, and took it with his 6 friends for a joyride through New York, that the USA should not retaliate in any way. bit of a joke imho :P
Trembler Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 07:15:00 - [64] Excuses, excuses. Why all the crying? Oh, I see that Stybbe has moved next door to ASCN. That would explain it. Tissue?
Carl Zeiss Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.09 07:37:00 - [65] Originally by: Ka Ten ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. LV should celebrate this event:) ------------ Which slot do I use for an exotic dancer?
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.08.09 10:09:00 - [66] Originally by: Carl Zeiss Originally by: Ka Ten ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. LV should celebrate this event:) For 2 reasons: 1. it removes an obviously very competent pvper from their midst; and 2. it is going to encourage many ASCN roaming gank squads/bored pvpers to make trips to RA occupied space looking for kills which would otherwise have spent their time in Stain/Catch, making life more difficult for RA. Bit of an own goal by RA in the long run I think if it keeps up such raids.
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.08.09 10:12:00 - [67] Originally by: Therem Harth Edited by: Therem Harth on 09/08/2006 01:30:42 Originally by: Malachon Draco RA fleet command should keep closer tabs on its carriers then. A group of about 5 RA including a carrier intruded upon ASCN territory about a month ago. Like I wrote before, check our KB for Great Mogul and see when he lost his vaga to ASCN and where. Don't come blabbering and complaining when you don't know the facts TYVM. Perhaps it doesn't occur to you that not all alliances operate the way ASCN does, and that an RA pilot can have <gasp> his own carrier to use as he seems fit, with a group of friends. Trespassing in your plex - yes. "Incursion" or "small fleet" - give me a break. Casus belli - oh, definitely, see above for the pretext. I also completely accept your explicit admission that the whole real reason for this endeavour was not a group of 6 RA pilots in your mostly unused plex, but a burning desire to help LV in exchange for future favours. My mission in this thread is thus accomplished, thank you very much. EDIT: less smack is good Its hardly a secret, anyone with access to ASCN forums (and who doesnt these days) could see that a major part of the raison d'etre for the operation was to improve relations and communications between LV and ASCN.
CEO Rockhound Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.09 10:18:00 - [68] Originally by: Mariko San Originally by: Carl Zeiss Originally by: Ka Ten ASCN: well before this situation i tryed to avoid their space, cos they were not directly involved in RA vs calolition war. Today i've visited them and killed 9 battleships + some smaller stuff. And this is only beginning. to calolition: no blob = no win considering possible development of this conflict - many vets already left calolition, cos of incredibly boring gameplay. i.e. exept RA they napped everyone around. RA are not easy to kill. Thats boring. So, calolition are becoming reincarnation of XETIC. Swarms of carebears providing endless income of easy targets for RA ganksquads. LV should celebrate this event:) For 2 reasons: 1. it removes an obviously very competent pvper from their midst; and 2. it is going to encourage many ASCN roaming gank squads/bored pvpers to make trips to RA occupied space looking for kills which would otherwise have spent their time in Stain/Catch, making life more difficult for RA. Bit of an own goal by RA in the long run I think if it keeps up such raids. What RA territory? Do RA carebear anyplace? if so, I will give you a cookie for theyre location. Norsk Gruvedrift. We will rock you.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:20:00 - [69] Originally by: Xade This from what i had been told had happened to a carrier who also logged off at a coalition pos the day before. Wrong and lie! That carrier pilot was still under agression when he logged off. His fighters took care of that. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:23:00 - [70] Originally by: CEO Rockhound What RA territory? Do RA carebear anyplace? if so, I will give you a cookie for theyre location. Why would you limit yourself to targetting mining ops? I am talking about areas where RA are active, such as N-RAEL, C-J and more generally in Insmother and GW. And yes, RA do carebear but if you don't know where it takes place then I am not about to enlighten you.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:07:00 - [71] Edited by: Papa Digger on 09/08/2006 12:08:08 Originally by: Mariko San Originally by: CEO Rockhound What RA territory? Do RA carebear anyplace? if so, I will give you a cookie for theyre location. Why would you limit yourself to targetting mining ops? I am talking about areas where RA are active, such as N-RAEL, C-J and more generally in Insmother and GW. And yes, RA do carebear but if you don't know where it takes place then I am not about to enlighten you. I think that ASCN already learn, that camping CJ is very boring and veery dangerous ops. If they want to lose more ships, they can come to Insm one more time, but I hope that they will be smarter. ---- CEO.
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.08.09 12:13:00 - [72] Originally by: Papa Digger Edited by: Papa Digger on 09/08/2006 12:08:08 Originally by: Mariko San Originally by: CEO Rockhound What RA territory? Do RA carebear anyplace? if so, I will give you a cookie for theyre location. Why would you limit yourself to targetting mining ops? I am talking about areas where RA are active, such as N-RAEL, C-J and more generally in Insmother and GW. And yes, RA do carebear but if you don't know where it takes place then I am not about to enlighten you. I think that ASCN already learn, that camping CJ is very boring and very dangerous ops. If they want to lose more ships, they can come to Insm one more time, but I hope that they will be smarter. The vast majority (90%) of losses suffered were at the POS and a result of lag-related issues, when roaming the system or surrounding systems there was no problem getting kills on RA ships.
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:31:00 - [73] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Jenny Spitfire RA 4TW. Hi I am so pathetic. Fixed. Don't attack kitty. Hey you, ebil babykillah! --------------------
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:28:00 - [74] Originally by: Mariko San Why do you (RA) change all system names on your killboard to "classified" - why not just leave them as they are? It stops people cross posting them that want to try to keep KBs accurate. What accurate boards? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.09 15:08:00 - [75] Edited by: Plutoinum on 09/08/2006 15:10:39 Originally by: Mariko San Why do you (RA) change all system names on your killboard to "classified" - why not just leave them as they are? It stops people cross posting them that want to try to keep KBs accurate. Think most of the alliances classify information on the killboard. You don't want to give another party the whole information. They could use that knowledge against you. So system names and fittings are removed for the public.
Raeff Caldari Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.09 15:10:00 - [76] Edited by: Raeff on 09/08/2006 15:12:02 lol this thing still going? ok, well, heres a quick summary for all you guys wondering what happened a) coalition over the last few weeks has had a campaign against RA, and has been trying to capture C-J(RA HQ) b) this last sunday, the coalition, after a few previous unsuccesful smaller attempts, made a larger play for C-J c) after alot of lag, and losing several dreads to CTD(we could talk about exploits but we wont) and game bugs(none lost to actual fleet combat), the decision was made to withdraw for the day d) coalition makes a decision to back off from C-J for a while until something is fixed(lag), or we figure out another way to go about the siege since its impossible to get any help from ccp anymore on major battles like this to help reduce lag e) RA starts its forum campaign declaring victory when they have only been saved by the lag monster for the short term future f) RA starts its "play" for systems such as P7 in cache, and for 1 whole day actually get sov(only lasted 1 downtime cause they when they spammed they got theirs online before we could get more online .. strange thing, but whatever) g) RA takes station when they get sov h) the next day after the goofy sov goes back to normal we take it back and hold it nothing exagerated, nothing made up, believe me if you want or dont, it doesnt make any difference to me .. vacation time for me, buh bye now \o
mOo biatch	Posted - 2006.08.09 15:28:00 - [77] Originally by: Raeff Edited by: Raeff on 09/08/2006 15:12:02 lol this thing still going? ok, well, heres a quick summary for all you guys wondering what happened a) coalition over the last few weeks has had a campaign against RA, and has been trying to capture C-J(RA HQ) b) this last sunday, the coalition, after a few previous unsuccesful smaller attempts, made a larger play for C-J c) after alot of lag, and losing several dreads to CTD(we could talk about exploits but we wont) and game bugs(none lost to actual fleet combat), the decision was made to withdraw for the day d) coalition makes a decision to back off from C-J for a while until something is fixed(lag), or we figure out another way to go about the siege since its impossible to get any help from ccp anymore on major battles like this to help reduce lag e) RA starts its forum campaign declaring victory when they have only been saved by the lag monster for the short term future f) RA starts its "play" for systems such as P7 in cache, and for 1 whole day actually get sov(only lasted 1 downtime cause they when they spammed they got theirs online before we could get more online .. strange thing, but whatever) g) RA takes station when they get sov h) the next day after the goofy sov goes back to normal we take it back and hold it nothing exagerated, nothing made up, believe me if you want or dont, it doesnt make any difference to me .. vacation time for me, buh bye now \o In my book, lag is not a reason for a huge coalition of gigantic alliances to be unable to capture a system defended of 80-90 RA. Everyone lags and the 4-1 odds win is simple.
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.09 15:45:00 - [78] Edited by: Joram McRory on 09/08/2006 15:45:54 Originally by: Therem Harth Perhaps it doesn't occur to you that not all alliances operate the way ASCN does, and that an RA pilot can have <gasp> his own carrier to use as he seems fit, with a group of friends. Trespassing in your plex - yes. "Incursion" or "small fleet" - give me a break. Casus belli - oh, definitely, see above for the pretext. 1. What do we care how other alliances operate. 2. I don't care whether it's 1 ship or 200, If a member of your alliance engages in hostilities in our space then that is plenty enough reason to attack RA 3. Trespassing in our plex - this is just as bad as killing our ships. As everyone with half a brain knows the 10/10 complexes are a fabulous source of income. 4. You can not disassociate your alliance from it's members. just saying "it was a group of friends having fun" is equally applicable to just about any form of PvP in this game. Originally by: Therem Harth I also completely accept your explicit admission that the whole real reason for this endeavour was not a group of 6 RA pilots in your mostly unused plex, but a burning desire to help LV in exchange for future favours. My mission in this thread is thus accomplished, thank you very much. 1. And where did anyone make that "explicit" admission, perhaps you meant "implied"? 2. As far as I know the purpose of this operation was to join our allies in combating a common foe. RA/RAT have been a pain in the arse in the south for a while now, and we don't need any other reason to attack you. 3. Closer relations with LV? Of course that is good, and hopefully a secondary benefit. LV are our allies why would we not want to work closley with them?? 4. Accomplished your mission in this thread?? From where I am standing you just made yourself look a tit. Dredging up XF history (that was over a year ago you realise??) and inventing conspiracy theories.... Joram
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.09 18:44:00 - [79] Edited by: Plutoinum on 09/08/2006 18:47:18 Originally by: mOo biatch In my book, lag is not a reason for a huge coalition of gigantic alliances to be unable to capture a system defended of 80-90 RA. Everyone lags and the 4-1 odds win is simple. Not really, since it isn't a symetrical fight. It's dreads+support vs. POS+defenders in the pos grid. Currently you seem to be doomed lose capitals at a pos, if the pos defender is doing it right, either you lack support and dreads get ganked or you have the support and your capitals die in lag, which makes it extremly expensive to take down a dozen or more large towers, especially because you have to do the same crap once again in the timezone of the defender, when the pos come out of reinforcement. Your '4-1 odds, both have lag, 4 wins' theory doesn't work in pos engagements. People are not fighting an even match at a hostile pos with similar fleets. The composition, objectives and risks for both fleets are different. (And the pos doesn't suffer from lag.)
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.08.09 18:52:00 - [80] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ MEGA LOL ROFL Don't do such things m8 - I have a weak heart ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
Atlus Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 20:54:00 - [81] oh hehe.. was thinking where to spend my vacations :) ascn space! :D
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.09 21:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Obivan Efa Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ MEGA LOL ROFL Don't do such things m8 - I have a weak heart Post with your main Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2006.08.10 05:47:00 - [83] Edited by: Obivan Efa on 10/08/2006 05:47:32 Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Post with your main Think with ur brain! ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
Tr4XX Caldari Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.10 09:14:00 - [84] I dont normally post in these forums, but i have to ask, munchy: are you really REALLY bored?
Crellion Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.10 19:38:00 - [85] Originally by: mOo biatch Originally by: Raeff Edited by: Raeff on 09/08/2006 15:12:02 lol this thing still going? ok, well, heres a quick summary for all you guys wondering what happened a) coalition over the last few weeks has had a campaign against RA, and has been trying to capture C-J(RA HQ) b) this last sunday, the coalition, after a few previous unsuccesful smaller attempts, made a larger play for C-J c) after alot of lag, and losing several dreads to CTD(we could talk about exploits but we wont) and game bugs(none lost to actual fleet combat), the decision was made to withdraw for the day d) coalition makes a decision to back off from C-J for a while until something is fixed(lag), or we figure out another way to go about the siege since its impossible to get any help from ccp anymore on major battles like this to help reduce lag e) RA starts its forum campaign declaring victory when they have only been saved by the lag monster for the short term future f) RA starts its "play" for systems such as P7 in cache, and for 1 whole day actually get sov(only lasted 1 downtime cause they when they spammed they got theirs online before we could get more online .. strange thing, but whatever) g) RA takes station when they get sov h) the next day after the goofy sov goes back to normal we take it back and hold it nothing exagerated, nothing made up, believe me if you want or dont, it doesnt make any difference to me .. vacation time for me, buh bye now \o In my book, lag is not a reason for a huge coalition of gigantic alliances to be unable to capture a system defended of 80-90 RA. Everyone lags and the 4-1 odds win is simple. POS guns + tackle never lag even when everubody else does. Better post about things you have first hand experience on only or you look silly (I know I have done it a few times )
Crellion Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.10 19:42:00 - [86] Originally by: Obivan Efa Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ MEGA LOL ROFL Don't do such things m8 - I have a weak heart Duuno about latest c-j escapades but from back in June and before LOl thats the most accurate post ever
Kiel Vhrok	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:31:00 - [87] Originally by: Therem Harth You pass a stranger almost every day on the streets of your home town. You are both armed, but politely ignore each other. Then one day you see that same stranger beating off some thugs, pass him a few steps and then stick your knife in his ribs. Or, well, you try to. EDIT: due to e-o forums auth bugs
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.10 22:03:00 - [88] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ Holy lol amighty! sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Rex666	Posted - 2006.08.13 14:25:00 - [89] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ Don't be so serious, guys. It's just a game. Loved this,excellent!
Puncher BIG Advanced Assault R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.14 05:50:00 - [90] Originally by: Papa Digger Coalition invide to CJ LOL! A new EVE instant classic..! Keep givin' em hell RA, with each new bandwagoner this just becomes more epic. 20:1 odds now roughly? GJ

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