but I really don't want to be a target for everyone in eve for 15 mins once I do that.

Confirming that you only want a mining barge to be able to shoot you back.

I too miss the old ways. But for other reasons. Can baiting was a nice little past time. Also after blapping some people, I ended up with pilots who wanted to learn and stuck around.

I know I can still take someones can in highsec, but I really don't want to be a target for everyone in eve for 15 mins once I do that.

I too miss the old ways. But for other reasons. Can baiting was a nice little past time. Also after blapping some people, I ended up with pilots who wanted to learn and stuck around.

Confirming, OP doesn't like getting shot at but likes destroying ships that the best thing they could do was blow up and a stupid time sink to sit in a belt waiting to explode....but now the OP doesn't like the fact that anyone can shoot back since there is now consequences to his actions since its not just the miner that can fight back, who probably rarely fought back. Irony, meet kettle....now OP gets a taste of what its like to be a "bad azz" with anyone who can attack them.

What's to stop you from doing it now? If you still win, you will still get those people that want to learn and stick around.

Its not worth the effort to can flip these days. And for people like me who play with single character, risk is bit too much.

The risk is too much for the risk averse? feature seems to be working brilliantly.

Under the old system, you stole from a miner's can, miner was able to attack you. Obviously this didn't happen often, but when the miner took their ore back, you could shoot them and suffer no penalty.

Confirming OP has yet to grow a pair. At least CODE. has the stones to operate at a sec status that allows everyone to shoot them. OP is merely afraid of PvP when there is even the remote chance he could lose, so he shiptoasts on forums to get his risk averse method of shooting mining barges back,

Ugh, now I need a shower. I feel so dirty after reading this thread.

who is CODE?? are you serious?

no can flipping is still working for ppl looking to steal ore. its just not working well for people wanting to 1v1 miners.

Ha ha, pray tell oh wise one, what is this all about?

CCP can you please make the can flipping in highsec as it was few years ago?

I know I can still take someones can in highsec, but I really don't want to be a target for everyone in eve for 15 mins once I do that.

It used to be fun back then doing this. Even those who lost their cans enjoyed hunting the can flippers. Not to mention the smack talk and the other stuff.

This was in fact the best thing to do when I had nothing else going on in eve. But now can flipping is not so fun because of the strange aggro rules.

none of that has changed. literally none of it.

With current aggro rules, the person who lost the can/wreck does not have to do anything. He can just wait for others to go after the can flipper. This itself changes the whole scenario. So you telling us that nothing has changed is not true.

So make friends with and/or war dec the one that DOES attack you. geez!

Or find another way to make friends and instigate war decs.

this is truly pathetic.

If you're that starved for attention, just send out random duel demands and look which AFK-miner forgot to check that checkbox. After you got the first dozen barges, you win EVE.

I am not starved for attention. I just want to have some can flipping fun. Random duels or AFK miners wont do it.

So you want duels, but you want duels with a silly name? Just call duelling "can flipping", case closed.

Begone troll. You don't make sense.

With current aggro rules, the person who lost the can/wreck does not have to do anything. He can just wait for others to go after the can flipper. This itself changes the whole scenario. So you telling us that nothing has changed is not true.

How about you prove my point in post #24 as wrong instead of posting silly jpg's?

As for your baseless claim that I'm afraid of highsec can flippers, I'm not quite sure how that could possibly be. When you consider I live in nullsec and the only actions I take in highsec are a Jita trade alt and a DST pilot for when I find a nice wormhole to highsec, I fail to see how any form of logic would conclude I'm afraid of you.

So you don't even play in high sec which pretty much means you know anything about can flipping. So why were you saying "nothing has changed"?

Stop posting here nullbear.

CCP can you please make the can flipping in highsec as it was few years ago?

I know I can still take someones can in highsec, but I really don't want to be a target for everyone in eve for 15 mins once I do that.

It used to be fun back then doing this. Even those who lost their cans enjoyed hunting the can flippers. Not to mention the smack talk and the other stuff.

This was in fact the best thing to do when I had nothing else going on in eve. But now can flipping is not so fun because of the strange aggro rules.

Ha, please. I've been everywhere and done damn near everything there is to do in EvE. I've likely forgotten more about this game then you have learned, and more than once I've changed "career tracks" because I felt the one I was on got nerfed too hard.

I adapted.

I damn well didn't come onto forums and start shiptoasting and *****ing about how bad a particular nerf was trying to get it changed back, especially not almost 2 years after the change.

Deal with it, or Get The **** Out. You had a chance to say something two years ago. This is too little, too late, and only makes you look like a whiny little carebear.

What's the difference between a nullbear and a carebear? A nullbear looks at the situation and thinks, "How can I turn this to my advantage?" A carebear posts a whiny thread on forums in an effort to get CCP to make changes. Wanna guess which you are?

How about you be on topic or get out?

And what's this....Bears and thinking? haha. Nullbear or carebear they all the same bearsef.

If you live in high sec Gallente and want endless pvp just go to Orvolle and take the PF gate or go to Stacmon and fly to Ostingele.
Don't get me wrong, i don't care how you play, but if you are complaining about lack of pvp i'm giving some options if you don't want to travel 20 jumps to find a fight.

Ah the tears of people too lazy to pvp with any major risk. Keep going tell me how the neutral repping nerf made you sad.

Just shoot the miner and stop dancing around his can.

Yes, but for miners.

I do miss can flipping miners in a battle Iteron.

You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back.

You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back. The harsher penalties have only created a disincentive to player interaction for both potential parties.

Pretty much the story of highsec.

I mine, I can flip if people are dumb enough to jetcan mine near me. Why bother mining when I can steal it from another miner.
Can flipping will not get changed back, it was a terrible mechanic then and would still be now.

You steal it, jettison it and then shoot it.


Oh boy that make 'em mad. See you're not even stealing it, you're just wantonly destroying it - just because.


Also yeah, jetcan mining died with the barge rebalance


And thirdly - OP seriously needs to toughen up some.

Go to lowsec, blow up a few frigs.

"Maybe" you will get over your fear.

If you want to shoot someone, go suicide gank them. Stop with the can flipping nonsense.

Why should I stop with can flipping when it used to be one of the best things to do in EvE?

No one is saying you have to stop. What we are saying is that you have to do what everyone else in this game needs to do, adapt to nerfs. Stop crying trying to get two year old changes undone.