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Miko Valentine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:13:00 -
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soo :D i play the Game since 2 days and subscribed after playing the aura Toturial (watched hours/weeks of sirLivingston/JhonnyPew vids before...and read the Altruist Guid before sleep instead of a Book ^^) now my idea is it Wise or smart to skill into a Barge and try to ice mine or to mine any higher highsec ore like Plagioclase Pyroxeres or scordite and than skilling for anything essential like into T2 frigates T2 cruisers and all support cap/cpu and Gunnery skills to 4 or 5 or do i need the support cap and cpu skills first ? |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:18:00 -
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from mining. It's the most boring thing you can imagine. (target rock, hit F1, wait until cargo is full)
If you need isk start with missions. The skills you need for PvP are very similar to the skills you will need for missions.
Oh, and welcome to EVE. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
470
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Posted - 2014.10.04 11:32:00 -
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Before you even think about looking into T2 frigs you better practice with T1 frigs with cheap t1/meta fittings. Nothing says useless than seeing your dual prop mod wolf with lasers die to a merlin. For income, I suggest FW. Get LP, exchange LP with the highest ISK/LP ratio and sell it in jita(Don't haul it yourself you're just asking for a gank if you're a newbie). |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:09:00 -
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Welcome to EVE ONLINE!
If I find a Rubik's Cube, I'll give you one ...
... until then you can go f* yourself without it. (to paraphrase CCP SoundWave here ^_^)
Anyhow ... don't skill up for something more expensive and then try to master it.
That will not only cost you tons of time wasted and worked,
but also will only frustrate you.
The best way to learn how to fight is by learning it early on,
while it's still cheap for you to do so.
Don't fall for the "I need to have massive skillpoints to compete"-trap.
It's not true. Don't listen to people who tell you otherwise.
Also ... don't waste your time mining. Instead find something that's actually fun while you make isk ...
... and actually PLAY at the same time!
Isn't that awesome?
You can PLAY, have fun AND make actually nice amounts of money!
All at once!
That's nothing MINING would ever allow you to achieve!
Incredible ..................... *sighs*
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:11:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:If you need isk start with missions. The skills you need for PvP are very similar to the skills you will need for missions. This is so wrong, it makes me want to jump into your face.
Please, OP, do not believe people who tell you this crap
and try to grief you into running missions or mining.
Go find a PvP corp ... and let them teach you.
Avoid "new player friendly" corps that do not have include PvP,
because they will most likely leave you alone and bore you to death.
If you want someone to play with ... feel free to send me a mail! (:
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
734
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:13:00 -
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Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
Yaay!!!! |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
734
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:15:00 -
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Do the soe mission ark. It's good isk
Yaay!!!! |
Voxinian
63
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:21:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
You are seriously suggesting picking up scrap metal from wrecks as an ISK income? Even mining is better then that. |
Miko Valentine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.04 12:32:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Before you even think about looking into T2 frigs you better practice with T1 frigs with cheap t1/meta fittings. Nothing says useless than seeing your dual prop mod wolf with lasers die to a merlin. For income, I suggest FW. Get LP, exchange LP with the highest ISK/LP ratio and sell it in jita(Don't haul it yourself you're just asking for a gank if you're a newbie).
because you fit the wrong weapons and 2 propulsion modules does it not mean everyone else would do that Fail xD
i know that i cant skill as fast as possible into a T2 frig and than fly it propperly ... but read my post careful and see i have at least a tiny good knoledge for a new player .... i bet you are one of these throwing duell invites around and hoping a new player is dumb enough to accept it |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
734
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:02:00 -
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Voxinian wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
You are seriously suggesting picking up scrap metal from wrecks as an ISK income? Even mining is better then that.
You really must have never mined before...
To each their own
Yaay!!!! |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:07:00 -
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Voxinian wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
You are seriously suggesting picking up scrap metal from wrecks as an ISK income? Even mining is better then that.
No it's not.
While you are narrow minded and only look at the income here,
he also looks at the engagement of the activity itself,
which is worth far more than just scrapping money together.
It is more important that the new player has fun and is engaged in something ...
... than it is that he hoardes up money.
Scrubs ... *sighs*
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Ursula Thrace
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:11:00 -
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miko,
welcome to eve online!
if industry is your thing, go for it. but i urge you to find a corporation that helps new players. check out eve university. it's a fantastic place for those who are just dipping their toes in the deep ocean we call new eden.
enjoy your stay and fly safe.
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Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
135
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:17:00 -
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OP, most of the people responding to you secretly mine and love it. They are trying to discourage you from it in order to keep ore prices up. They are also encouraging you to PvP so you have to replace ships frequently...and ships are made out of, you guessed it, ore.
When that mining laser crackles over a cold rock in space....MmMmmMm...it's orgasmic. |
Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
2133
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:18:00 -
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Miko Valentine wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Before you even think about looking into T2 frigs you better practice with T1 frigs with cheap t1/meta fittings. Nothing says useless than seeing your dual prop mod wolf with lasers die to a merlin. For income, I suggest FW. Get LP, exchange LP with the highest ISK/LP ratio and sell it in jita(Don't haul it yourself you're just asking for a gank if you're a newbie). because you fit the wrong weapons and 2 propulsion modules does it not mean everyone else would do that Fail xD i know that i cant skill as fast as possible into a T2 frig and than fly it propperly ... but read my post careful and see i have at least a tiny good knoledge for a new player .... i bet you are one of these throwing duell invites around and hoping a new player is dumb enough to accept it
Well, even if you fit your T2 frig right, you might die to a T1 frig which has a fit that counters yours and is flown properly to take advantage of that. You may also die to a lot of other things. And that will cost you a lot.
So the advice you should take from the quoted post is to practise with T1 frigs, as much of what you will learn (and you will still learn a lot, as knowledge is good, but practise also necessary) is applicable to T2 frigs as well. And some of what you will learn is how to die less ;D |
Voxinian
63
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:18:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Voxinian wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
You are seriously suggesting picking up scrap metal from wrecks as an ISK income? Even mining is better then that. No it's not. While you are narrow minded and only look at the income here, he also looks at the engagement of the activity itself, which is worth far more than just scrapping money together. It is more important that the new player has fun and is engaged in something ... ... than it is that he hoardes up money. Scrubs ... *sighs*
Then you could just as well do the missions yourself and pick up the loot instead of waiting and scanning for some left over wrecks, but thats just my logic. |
Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion
The Bastion
405
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Posted - 2014.10.04 13:25:00 -
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Scanning, Jonnypew guides are good for that, takes a day or 3 to get those skills. While you scan and hack, you can train for PvP skills. Also, combat probe scanning in PvP is a good skill to have and data/relic/combat site scanning prepares for that. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
1951
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:58:00 -
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Just get out of highsec ASAP.
Faction Warfare and Exploration (Data/Relic sites) are 2 good newbie-friendly ISK-making activities, that pay more than mining and that you can do in lowsec, while learning how to survive.
For PVP, join a PVP corp.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6649
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:04:00 -
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Protip: When an EVE player tells you that you can't make isk doing something, it's usually because they just don't want the competition.
To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes:
CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |
Xavier Holtzman
Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity
Fatal Ascension
168
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Posted - 2014.10.04 16:58:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
This man is lying to you.
*hushed, whispering voice
Shut up, dude.
I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it.
- Bill Frug
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4632
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Posted - 2014.10.04 17:00:00 -
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Miko Valentine wrote:soo :D i play the Game since 2 days and subscribed after playing the aura Toturial (watched hours/weeks of sirLivingston/JhonnyPew vids before...and read the Altruist Guid before sleep instead of a Book ^^) now my idea is it Wise or smart to skill into a Barge and try to ice mine or to mine any higher highsec ore like Plagioclase Pyroxeres or scordite and than skilling for anything essential like into T2 frigates T2 cruisers and all support cap/cpu and Gunnery skills to 4 or 5 or do i need the support cap and cpu skills first ?
Or you could of course not fall for the "I'm new, so I must mine" trap and just go do what ever you like to do.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10366
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Posted - 2014.10.04 17:21:00 -
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Voxinian wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Voxinian wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Gas mining is amazing. Probe out sigs, find wormhole. Probe out gas, ninja in a venture, make Isk, risk life.
You can also wreck mine. Probe out mission runner, salvage their ships, laugh as they cry.
You are seriously suggesting picking up scrap metal from wrecks as an ISK income? Even mining is better then that. No it's not. While you are narrow minded and only look at the income here, he also looks at the engagement of the activity itself, which is worth far more than just scrapping money together. It is more important that the new player has fun and is engaged in something ... ... than it is that he hoardes up money. Scrubs ... *sighs* Then you could just as well do the missions yourself and pick up the loot instead of waiting and scanning for some left over wrecks, but thats just my logic.
I see your point, ut you don't see mine.
It's not about the loot or salvage ... but about the fact that there is someone else there too.
It's not about the income,
but about playing with someone else.
Not just yourself.
That can be fun too ...
... yes ... oh yes .....
..... ooohhh yesssssss that can be ssooooo much fun ........
......... but it's muuuuch more satisfying doing it with someone else. ;)
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10366
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Posted - 2014.10.04 17:22:00 -
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lol perfect top post. *snickers XD*
*kinks* (:
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2014.10.04 17:34:00 -
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Mining is fine OP. Just make sure to do it fully tanked and AFK. This way you can do regular things at home - dinner, TV, sperging with corpmates, whatever - while making ISK. The key to mining is to do it when you wouldn't otherwise be doing much on EVE anyways.
Now instead of worrying about making ISK while actually playing, you can do what you want to do, be it PVP or scam or whatever. |
Lister Dax
Intergalactic Trade and Harm
11
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Posted - 2014.10.04 20:07:00 -
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Depending on your situation, if you can afford it you could always buy a PLEX to sell on the market. That way you'll have a ton of ISK for what you want to do and not have to worry about making ISK for a start and get ship fitting skills up.
Check out the e-uni newbie skill training guide to get you started. Join someone like RvB for a while for as much practice as you want, or e-uni if there's a particular part you want to learn, then decide where you want to go! |
Miko Valentine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.10.04 20:35:00 -
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afk mining suggestions ? when i do something in a Game that is sooo boring that i have to go afk and do something else pls tell me how smart is this activity (paying monthly for a game so i can fly my ship to a belt to turn my mining lasers on and go afk over and over to pay the next month to do the same xD you are stupid
and only need 5 days to skill into a mining barge so its about a week than i have half assed skills ... i meant mining as aactivity while skilling and not asmy main Game goal , oh my just bought some plex i do something fun now .... no not mining xD |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
282
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:00:00 -
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OP do not go Mining first. Train a combat ship first. Do missions or PvP or simple ratting. But learn how to defend yourself first and foremost.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3405
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Posted - 2014.10.05 04:12:00 -
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Removed some off topic posts.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
35
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Posted - 2014.10.05 04:32:00 -
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Mining: Never do it afk....not because of gankers....but because you can with a survey scanner actually mine more efficiently...more efficient = faster. As a miner always make sure drone and shield and core skills are fairly high if not maxed out. a Proc can mine enough by itself to fill an orca in about 1 hr 37 mins not being afk. And a proc can have massive tank.
Missioning: depending where you are at(faction), you can make lots of ISK even just doing lv3's one your skilled enough to do them....proper skills, proper ship, proper fit....in the time it takes to run the longest lv4 mission+salvage (from what i read/heard of others about 20-40 mins) you can easily kill every rat and turn in 3-7 lv3 missions. IF you dont care about the opposing faction standing.....never skip a storyline...LP's and the implants can both be useful and a nice influx of cash.
PvP: ganking----other miners in your way or competing with them....gank them if you wish. Losec roams can be fun even solo especially while your learning...i suggest grabbing a rifter i know plenty of peeps that have taught themselves that way as a starting point. Join FW----plenty of chances their to die and learn how to not die as often. Then you have pvp corps....mercs, professional gank groups, pirate ransoming. and then there is WH and nullsec. I wouldnt suggest the bountyhunter/whiteknight as a way to earn isk....but if that type of gameplay is what you like go for it.
There are other isk making ways as well...
Exploration
Market Trade
Scamming
Industrial: This is what i do my self...it is buidling things...requires a sense of the market, what pvpr's use and lose, what non-pvpr's always lose....for best results req RW networking skills, a sense of ingame politcs in your region and abroad, skilling up your industrial, trade, research skill very high, oh and reprocessing.......some patience, and at times not giving a hoot about your possible competitors. Done correctly....you can mine....but minig is not required.
All these things can make you ISK to supplement your game play....best results though is mixing and matching the inherent play styles....and above all....Have fun in your choosen primary profession!
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Kucial Ghavera
Minmatar Republic
479
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Posted - 2014.10.05 04:51:00 -
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Join EVE University. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10425
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Posted - 2014.10.05 11:55:00 -
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mental note: petition this ISD for lack of common sense.
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