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Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.12 06:42:00 - [1] So AAA logged on an entire fleet all at once. they killed a ratio of 6:1 doing this. Personally i think the FCs in AAA who utilise this tactic are pansies to say the least. If EVE is going to allow this why not just get rid of local all together? Oh BTW the lame excuse that was given. "we all just decided to log on" phhFFF!!!! i guess it's too hard to play the right way. Not enough brain power to think of unique fleet set ups to beat your enemy. it's much easier to say " OK EVERYONE LOG ON NOW!" losers. BTW this is my own view and i was told not to post this but ya know what? I'll take a chewing out to let ya all know hoe completely useless i think these FC's who did this are. . . . . Through these fields of destruction. Baptisms of fire. Ive watched your suffering. As the battles raged higher. they hurt me so bad In the fear and alarm. You did not desert me, my brothers in arms!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.12 06:49:00 - [2] Edited by: Murukan on 12/08/2006 06:49:33 why is it everytime someone does a log on trap there is a thread about it? I mean Evil Thug's bio says logged off in a system next to you, you should expect it coming. In rust we trust!!!
Deadzone Caldari Phoenix Propulsion Labs Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.12 06:58:00 - [3] Its posted so everyone can know what p**sies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Vice-Admiral Military Division Phoenix Propulsion Laboratories
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.12 06:59:00 - [4] ew..agreeing with a fix member i feel so dirty :p but people who use login traps are lame, they lack the imagination to actualy do something without abusing game mechanics..basicaly the same as people who log off to save their ship. stuff like this contribute to ruining what should be a lot of fun on both sides. _____ They were monsters. They rode across the world we knew and brough terror, and death. Where they were, life ceased. They were without mercy. They were without fear - They were MASS
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.12 06:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Murukan on 12/08/2006 06:59:12 Originally by: Deadzone Its posted so everyone can know what psies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Saying that RAT uses logon tactics is rather like beating a dead horse, everyone already knows. and if you know it's coming and you still fall for it, where does that place you? In rust we trust!!!**
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:01:00 - [6] Originally by: dantes inferno ew..agreeing with a fix member i feel so dirty :p but people who use login traps are lame, they lack the imagination to actualy do something without abusing game mechanics..basicaly the same as people who log off to save their ship. stuff like this contribute to ruining what should be a lot of fun on both sides. Careful dantes, I find myself agreeing with you ;) It is just about the lamest tactic in eve, bar none. A shame that aaa are having to resort to this kind of stuff.
Kibayasu Iella The Raven Warriors R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:01:00 - [7] Am I in an RA thread?
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:05:00 - [8] There is a difference between log on tactics and loging on to fight. If 50 people are chatting on teamspeak but logged off and one guy scouting (but logged on) says: Hey guys there is a fleet attacking out pos, lets go kill them. So the 50 people log on, gang up, get into position and start fighting. I dunno what happened here, but don't be so quick to shout log-in trap as I'm sure so many people will do.
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 12/08/2006 06:59:12 Originally by: Deadzone Its posted so everyone can know what p**sies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Saying that RAT uses logon tactics is rather like beating a dead horse, everyone already knows. and if you know it's coming and you still fall for it, where does that place you? I love people like you who can't see the forest through the trees. wooosh!!!! Hi dantes, good to see you still kickin. Hope to disagree with you soon. :D Through these fields of destruction. Baptisms of fire. Ive watched your suffering. As the battles raged higher. they hurt me so bad In the fear and alarm. You did not desert me, my brothers in arms!
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Shin Ra There is a difference between log on tactics and loging on to fight. If 50 people are chatting on teamspeak but logged off and one guy scouting (but logged on) says: Hey guys there is a fleet attacking out pos, lets go kill them. So the 50 people log on, gang up, get into position and start fighting. I dunno what happened here, but don't be so quick to shout log-in trap as I'm sure so many people will do. This is a fair point, unfortunately I know which one many people will find more likely :(
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:12:00 - [11] Quote: Careful dantes, I find myself agreeing with you ;) It is just about the lamest tactic in eve, bar none. A shame that aaa are having to resort to this kind of stuff. ohh god it gets worse not only am i agreeing with a fix member i got a bob member agreeing with me...this feels so wrong _____ They were monsters. They rode across the world we knew and brough terror, and death. Where they were, life ceased. They were without mercy. They were without fear - They were MASS
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:14:00 - [12] Originally by: Droewa Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 12/08/2006 06:59:12 Originally by: Deadzone Its posted so everyone can know what psies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Saying that RAT uses logon tactics is rather like beating a dead horse, everyone already knows. and if you know it's coming and you still fall for it, where does that place you? I love people like you who can't see the forest through the trees. wooosh!!!! Hi dantes, good to see you still kickin. Hope to disagree with you soon. :D I'm not saying it's a good tactic or anyhting, i personally think it's lame. But you cannot say that this isn't a tired topic and everyone already expects this sort of thing out of RAT and crew. In rust we trust!!!**
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Droewa Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 12/08/2006 06:59:12 Originally by: Deadzone Its posted so everyone can know what p**sies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Saying that RAT uses logon tactics is rather like beating a dead horse, everyone already knows. and if you know it's coming and you still fall for it, where does that place you? I love people like you who can't see the forest through the trees. wooosh!!!! Hi dantes, good to see you still kickin. Hope to disagree with you soon. :D I'm not saying it's a good tactic or anyhting, i personally think it's lame. But you cannot say that this isn't a tired topic and everyone already expects this sort of thing out of RAT and crew. Sorry man I'm not all over the forums these days. so i must have missed the other topics about this. If you are tired of reading this type of topic i did give a very descriptive name to the topic in the title. you could have just not clicked it. . . . . . Through these fields of destruction. Baptisms of fire. Ive watched your suffering. As the battles raged higher. they hurt me so bad In the fear and alarm. You did not desert me, my brothers in arms!
RichThugster Gallente Lore Islander and Nakor Kren Present	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Murukan I'm not saying it's a good tactic or anyhting, i personally think it's lame. But you cannot say that this isn't a tired topic and everyone already expects this sort of thing out of RAT and crew. over the past few months there has been countless threads about how goons disrespect everything. Next time they make a totally unsuitable and revolting thing about a member of the community are you going to tell the ppl who act angrily, that they should know better, and that, thats what goons do, so accept it? Since that is pretty much what you have said in this thread about AAA log in traps. Ive heard so many good things about the PVP ability of Xenobytes and RAT among the other corps, however to hear this sorta thing really disheartens you as, it makes you wonder how many borderline exploits you can use and still be considered to be good within your chosen field. Originally by: KIATolon I just got owned
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:09:00 - [15] its also like saying we expect macro miners to use macros to make billions of isk - so its ok for them to continue to do so, or we expect isk sellers to sell tisk for RL cash,..so its ok for them to do so. just because people use lame tactics and boderline exploits over and over and over to the point its the only thing they are really known for does not make it ok. but the recipient of such low game play can console themeselves with the knowledge that AAA have to use such tactics to kill them. _____ They were monsters. They rode across the world we knew and brough terror, and death. Where they were, life ceased. They were without mercy. They were without fear - They were MASS
Mr Happ Gallente Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Shin Ra There is a difference between log on tactics and loging on to fight. If 50 people are chatting on teamspeak but logged off and one guy scouting (but logged on) says: Hey guys there is a fleet attacking out pos, lets go kill them. So the 50 people log on, gang up, get into position and start fighting. I dunno what happened here, but don't be so quick to shout log-in trap as I'm sure so many people will do. Thats rubbish and you know it, your corp is well known for using just about every lame tactic in the game. Log on tactics are rubbbish, AAA is just another RA type alliance, it's pathetic, pos war fare and crap all fights, lame lame lame
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:29:00 - [17] its rlly lame, ya. and if i were u fix i wouldnt give em fights i wouldnt b sure to win, cause such lamers shouldnt gain anything by that. i dont know why ccp isnt doin anything bout the ra and aaa tactics thata re workin for so long alrdy, those are obviously gamebreaking. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Tao Han Caldari Crucial Electronics	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Deadzone Its posted so everyone can know what p**sies they really are. Reguardless of the outcome. Everyone is already aware of that, no point to keep mentioning it.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:43:00 - [19] Another reason I feel like setting a long skill and waiting for Kali tbh. When is CCP gonna start fixing game breaking issues?
Ace Frehley Minmatar 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:47:00 - [20] Hehe, you know RAT is all about killmails ratio bla bla, so what you expect. Counter their login traps with own login traps BBCODE:
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:50:00 - [21] Edited by: Randay on 12/08/2006 08:50:01 Originally by: Darkrydar Another reason I feel like setting a long skill and waiting for Kali tbh. When is CCP gonna start fixing game breaking issues? never. there will always be something. its inevitable because there will always be people who are willing to do anything to get an advantage. actually everyone in the game does it, just some go farther then others. edit: added quote. ------------------------------------------- Apparently the Swedish language is against the rules of the forums.
R3dSh1ft Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:51:00 - [22] AAA Misread the game title, we all playing Eve-Online but they're playing Exploit-Online. Duh. ______________________________________
McDan Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Shin Ra There is a difference between log on tactics and loging on to fight. If 50 people are chatting on teamspeak but logged off and one guy scouting (but logged on) says: Hey guys there is a fleet attacking out pos, lets go kill them. So the 50 people log on, gang up, get into position and start fighting. I dunno what happened here, but don't be so quick to shout log-in trap as I'm sure so many people will do. I am not going to deny that it could happen. However, i would like to ask your honest opinion on how likely this is, having taken into account the frequency at which remarkably similar events take place?
Haruko Red Caldari Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Droewa So AAA logged on an entire fleet all at once. they killed a ratio of 6:1 doing this. What are you talking about? Is it about yesterday fight in FAT? I cant remember any other noticeable fight with FIX recently. If so, then what were you smoking, fella? We were in system for hours before you appeared. There was no need for logon traps. We knew you were coming, and were ready to meet you on the gate. You jumped in, got scrambled, bubbled and killed. But what worries my most in this post (besides possible drug abuse by some players) it's kill ratio. According to our killboard you have lost 20+ ship and lots of pods, with one rifter and one mega (pilot jumed to the wrong distance) lost from AAA side. So, why 6:1? Are you sure, you've posted all of your losses? ________________________________________________ "I dont smoke." (C) William Blake
Wrok Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:15:00 - [25] maybe you should fight fire with fire...other then that deal wit it by finding other ways to protect aginst it.
MissBehaving Caldari Angels Of Mercy	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Droewa So AAA logged on an entire fleet all at once. they killed a ratio of 6:1 doing this. Personally i think the FCs in AAA who utilise this tactic are pansies to say the least. If EVE is going to allow this why not just get rid of local all together? Oh BTW the lame excuse that was given. "we all just decided to log on" phhFFF!!!! i guess it's too hard to play the right way. Not enough brain power to think of unique fleet set ups to beat your enemy. it's much easier to say " OK EVERYONE LOG ON NOW!" losers. BTW this is my own view and i was told not to post this but ya know what? I'll take a chewing out to let ya all know hoe completely useless i think these FC's who did this are. . . . . Stop crying ya big girls blowse *[DjDangle's Alt]*
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:21:00 - [27] Originally by: McDan Originally by: Shin Ra There is a difference between log on tactics and loging on to fight. If 50 people are chatting on teamspeak but logged off and one guy scouting (but logged on) says: Hey guys there is a fleet attacking out pos, lets go kill them. So the 50 people log on, gang up, get into position and start fighting. I dunno what happened here, but don't be so quick to shout log-in trap as I'm sure so many people will do. I am not going to deny that it could happen. However, i would like to ask your honest opinion on how likely this is, having taken into account the frequency at which remarkably similar events take place? Going by Haruko's post above, I would say its very likely. Its also possible someone didn't notice something and said omg where did they come from. Then someone could have said, oh its RAT - must be a login trap. Then everyone else likes to think that instead of them getting owned, that the other side was somehow cheating. I've read a lot of Evil Thugs posts on such matters, and it seems to me like hes just playing you lot like fools when you cry log-in trap. The same thing we do with stabs "If the fools believe it, let them"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:24:00 - [28] Everybody knows they don't have to do this. But they do it sometimes anyway. They are using every bloody mechanic they can to win a war. I've been on the other side of that and it can be pretty demoralising to your soldiers.
Mysti	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:25:00 - [29] I am curious as to why everyone is refering to this garbage as "tactics". They are incapable of developing good tactics so they must rely on a cheap exploit.
Burgui	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:43:00 - [30] Originally by: Mysti I am curious as to why everyone is refering to this garbage as "tactics". They are incapable of developing good tactics so they must rely on a cheap exploit. Our tactics - to use Т2 devises, yours - use garbage! See mails ? => http://www.a-eve.com/killboard/index.php?order=killdate2&selectmode=all&page=1&maxr=70 =VVS=Gennadich

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