I think the average line member wants to shake things up just enough to create a number of small targets around him to farm without actually disrupting *his* coalition, and without disrupting *his* isk-making operations.

I think the average line member doesn't want N3 and the CFC dissolved. I think they want to have their cake and eat it too. The other guy should disband, but their coalitions is perfectly fine.

If line members, as a whole, didn't want coalitions then they wouldn't exist, simple as that. No, the line member just doesn't want the other guy's coalition to exist.

So because we have a close knit community that means the people in charge run big rmt operations and that we all want EVE to be yet another theampark?

So because we have a close knit community that means the people in charge run big rmt operations and that we all want EVE to be yet another theampark?

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown Grr Goons EVE-O GD Forum posting.

Dude, dafuq does anything you just quoted mention RMT?

All I'm saying is if your close knit community of GSF, Razor, FA, SMA, Lawn, and w/e else doesn't get less close-knit in the future, eve is f*cked. Same goes for N3.

The problem with both of the blocs is that you think the way to fix eve is for the *other* guys coalition to stop existing. Mention putting their own "close knit" community of 30,000 on the chopping bloc and you may as well open the floodgates.

So because we have a close knit community that means the people in charge run big rmt operations and that we all want EVE to be yet another theampark?

Dude, I don't care if you're from goons or pl or nulli or even -A-. Do you honestly think the continued existence of both N3 and the CFC is compatible with the long term health of eve?

The problem with both of the blocs is that you think the way to fix eve is for the *other* guy's coalition to stop existing. Mention putting their own "close knit" community of 30,000 on the chopping bloc and you may as well open the floodgates.

Funny, your block [Grr Goons] seem to think just by breaking up the big power blocks your lives and EVE will be all sunshine and rainbows, and we will all be holding hands singing kumbaya.

Yes because its the mechanics that are causing all of he issues.

Funny, your block [Grr Goons] seem to think just by breaking up the big power blocks your lives and EVE will be all sunshine and rainbows, and we will all be holding hands singing kumbaya.

Riddle me this: If 95% of null is in a coalition in the old system and 95% of null is in a coalition in the new system, who, exactly are you going to shoot? If you aren't going to shoot your neighbor and you aren't going to shoot the renters, who *exactly* are you going to shoot?

Riddle me this: If 95% of null is in a coalition in the old system and 95% of null is in a coalition in the new system, who, exactly are you going to shoot? If you aren't going to shoot your neighbor and you aren't going to shoot the renters, who *exactly* are you going to shoot?

Most of his statistical data is misused, it's selectively presented in a light that makes it fit and support the thesis. And, just like a tabloid, he uses the claim of 'data' (misrepresented data, but DATA) backing him up to fool people into thinking it's all legitimate.

Thankfully, CCP seems to understand this.

Pitty it doesn't understand how to actually do anything about it.

If CCP were a surgeon, it would cure appendicitis with a beheading.

Pitty it doesn't understand how to actually do anything about it.

If CCP were a surgeon, it would cure appendicitis with a beheading.

So you think the changes are too harsh?

I never read his blog before and considered him a nutjob.

Do you have any proof that makes your words more believeable than his?

So you think the changes are too harsh?

Off the top of my hat? He claimed that Powerpoint Coalition was an independent pirate group focused solely on disrupting ratters. While even the powerpoint itself outlined "sov targets and moons" as one of the major goals of their campaign.

He also mixes up terminology - a good instance would be chalking every case of a CFC present on a CFC killmail as an Awox, then claiming "rampant awoxing" among our ranks. Most of those "Awoxes" feature battleships hitting each other with smartbombs (especially when ratting - then they do rack up a significant amount of damage over time which winds up on the lossmail. The smartbomb damage in those cases especially is not a big factor due to hardener setups).

Finally, his method of "filtering" (de-whoring) killmails is very much flawed as it does not present the whole picture of a killmail. Many ships vital to a kill don't even register using that method (HICs on a super - it's pretty normal for a super to be tackled by hictors, but most of the time hictors don't fit guns. Their infinipoints, if used, register for 0.0% damage so by his logic - they don't register. Similar situation for logistics and ECM.)

(EDIT: I could go on - probably write my own blog about how Gevlon is wrong about a lot of things. But those are just a few things I came up with off the top of my amazing hat.)

Gevlon's analysis is basically correct.

You just have to note how all the coalitions instead of fighting their equals are piing onto the last independent small guys on Provi. PL dropped what, 50 supers and a titan on a single rep carrier worth 1bil last night? Something like that? Such content, much elite, as they say.

Anyhow, to answer your question, no I will not unsub because of the nerf.

Anything that prevents big guys from interfering all over eve is a good thing in my book. nerfs dont go far enough in my opinion.

See this is where the grr goon mob falls over themselves. Not only are we not blue to 95% of null but we are currently activly deploying against eachother.

See this is where the grr goon mob falls over themselves. Not only are we not blue to 95% of null but we are currently activly deploying against eachother.

In your dreams. Months now, only thing you see is in catch.

You're all a bunch of lame.

See this is where the grr goon mob falls over themselves. Not only are we not blue to 95% of null but we are currently activly deploying against eachother.

So said the npc highsec player.

The last time we tried an all out brawl we broke the servers and winded up slugging it out for over 20 hours in which about the only thing that worked was titan DDs. Nobody had fun.

Mostly I do NPSI, because,,,,

I don't want to be you.