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Aoki Kau	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:25:00 - [1] So, I'm new here. I'm poking around in 0.4 space and lose my Destroyer. Not a big deal, PvP game etc. whatever. I get it. I pop out of the station in my noob ship ready to warp and get one-shotted. By somebody completely different. I manage to warp and two more totally different ships pop out of warp just to pod me. Now, I get the first one. You destroy some noob's Destroyer and you get to pick through his cargo. But what's up with the pod kill? What's there to gain? If I invest another month in this game, is this all I have to look forward to?
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:27:00 - [2] Before some ganktard comes in to say "get over it," let me chime in first and warn you that EVE is pesently full of 0.4 campers that like nothing better than to pick on new players because they lack any ability to survive in 0.0 space. While I abhor the use of "instas," for new people like you, I'd strongly suggest finding a cheap and reliable "insta" dealer to help you bypass the gank camps that are troubling you.
Benglada Central Defiance	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:28:00 - [3] No one can kill you by the time it takes to un dock and warp... people cant lock you for 30 seconds after you un dock iirc, you probably un docked and sat their begging for someone to nuke you, --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Caethes Adain Minmatar The Descendents	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:29:00 - [4] Just be careful where and when you travel. You can get to a load of 0.4 and even 0.0 places and spend time there without getting killed, you just need to travel about and get to know different systems. Peeps do pod you in the chance you may have implants or just for kicks. There is a lot to look forward to in eve, don't let a few deaths put you off. People dissapoint me. End my dissapointment.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:30:00 - [5] You can always look toward the marvelous Veldspar fields in 1.0 EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:31:00 - [6] Pod killing makes this awesome squishy sound. Plus it ****es people off at times, which causes them to smacktalk and thats always funny to watch ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Azulios Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:31:00 - [7] You need to seriously consider staying in Hi Security until your ready and have the resources for low sec. You WILL be attacked in low sec by pirates - and you will be podded for the hell of it if you dont pay a ransom generally. I'm not being sarcastic, just honest advice friend. I hope you stay around and give it another month or so because this is probably the best MMO game that has ever surfaced, and ever will for some time.
deathforge	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:36:00 - [8] Edited by: deathforge on 16/08/2006 09:36:30 Originally by: Aoki Kau But what's up with the pod kill? What's there to gain? In all honesty, pods make a totally kick ass squish sound when you shoot them. Totally worth it, everytime. EDIT: beaten to it. And yes, the smacktalk is just the icing on the cake. Send your local pirate hate mail today! \o/
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Aoki Kau But what's up with the pod kill? What's there to gain? Some people like being ebil. Pod-kills are one way of doing this. And if you want to have a bid, bad -9.9 sec status they're a good way to get there. Originally by: Aoki Kau If I invest another month in this game, is this all I have to look forward to? Definitely not. If you want to avoid death, it's eminently possible. My industrial/hauler alt has never lost a ship to PvP or been podded. And that's not because she stays docked in high-sec all the time - she's regularly in 0.1-0.4. Having said that, it takes a bit of effort to stay safe. Look at the map to see which systems have had recent ship and pod kills. Be extra careful in heavily travelled systems at the 0.4->0.5 boundary. Keep an eye on local to see who's around. Make some insta-BMs for commonly travelled routes.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:41:00 - [10] If you look at the map you can find areas where pirate activity is low. You might have to travel a bit but they do exist. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.

Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:42:00 - [11] Edited by: Evelyn Lavi on 16/08/2006 09:42:28 Another solution is going to the starmap, and setting the "star" appearance settings to show "ships destroyed in past hour." If you see a big, fat yellow or red blister, don't go there. Oh, and words of wisdom: Get out of Caldari space. It's the ass-end of EVE, a wretched hive of ganks and noobery.
Caleb Paine Infinite Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:42:00 - [12] I'm sorry but you went into low sec, by doing so you agreed to the possibility to be blown up, podding is just the consequence of losing your ship, nothing more nothing less. There's no hate going or anything, why the emotional attachedness to your pod? Your ship got attacked, and when it got destroyed and you got out, you get killed. Low sec exists because there's more to be gained than in high sec at the cost of more risk. If you venture out alone, as a new player, in a small ship, having no idea what to expect or how to deal with, without friends... guess what happens. It's the same as being a lvl 3 Warrior and going into a lvl 40 dungeon.. "HEY I got raped in 2 seconds, what gives!". This isn't meant to put you down, but it's meant to make you think, you SHOULD have thought "hey, I'm going into low sec... is what I'm about to do there worth being blown up for in this ship?" and "Ok, I'll try and make a run for it and if I die, oh well". It's like walking into some gang territory at night, all alone, no friends, no protection and you don't look like the guy who would be able to take care of himself... guess what happens. You KNOW what happens so, you don't GO there... yet. Learn from the mistake you made (going into places without friends and without being able to defend yourself), pick yourself up and go about your business. If you want to learn about the game, what the game is ACTUALLY about join a corp that helps you with that. Either EVE University or my corp (there's others ofcourse as well). Looking for a corp? INCH caters for mature players, VERY newbie friendly
Tobin Farr Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:47:00 - [13] What you describe here is what I like to call "general asshattery". Subsequently, people who get their kick from destroying rookie ships and pods just to ruin some newcomer's day are "asshats" aka "really sad individuals". The less you worry about them, the better. My theory is that they thrive off your worries. Simply forget about them and move on. One day, when you see them all flashy red and floating towards a gate in an egg, you can laught your ass off as you make them go splosh with your civilian blaster. Sorry. I'm not really good at compassion. P.S. If someone feels like lecturing me about "lol alt n00b scouts", please, drop me an eve-mail.
Zonna Tenshi	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:47:00 - [14] Originally by: Aoki Kau But what's up with the pod kill? What's there to gain? Oh if you only knew what skill coming in Kali that will cause lots of podding... and more frozen corpse collecting...
Benglada Central Defiance	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Chribba You can always look toward the marvelous Veldspar fields in 1.0 Chribba i bet every post you have ever made has the word veldspar in it :S --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Before some ganktard comes in to say "get over it," let me chime in first and warn you that EVE is pesently full of 0.4 campers that like nothing better than to pick on new players because they lack any ability to survive in 0.0 space. Ability to survive in 0.0 space? Apart from the bottlenecks, 0.0 is some of the emptiest space I've ever flown through. Surviving in 0.0 is easy, particularly when you're in a big alliance. \\ contact me in-game for sig-purchase \
Aoki Kau	Posted - 2006.08.16 09:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Caleb Paine I'm sorry but you went into low sec, by doing so you agreed to the possibility to be blown up, podding is just the consequence of losing your ship, nothing more nothing less. There's no hate going or anything, why the emotional attachedness to your pod? Your ship got attacked, and when it got destroyed and you got out, you get killed. Low sec exists because there's more to be gained than in high sec at the cost of more risk. If you venture out alone, as a new player, in a small ship, having no idea what to expect or how to deal with, without friends... guess what happens. It's the same as being a lvl 3 Warrior and going into a lvl 40 dungeon.. "HEY I got raped in 2 seconds, what gives!". This isn't meant to put you down, but it's meant to make you think, you SHOULD have thought "hey, I'm going into low sec... is what I'm about to do there worth being blown up for in this ship?" and "Ok, I'll try and make a run for it and if I die, oh well". It's like walking into some gang territory at night, all alone, no friends, no protection and you don't look like the guy who would be able to take care of himself... guess what happens. You KNOW what happens so, you don't GO there... yet. Learn from the mistake you made (going into places without friends and without being able to defend yourself), pick yourself up and go about your business. If you want to learn about the game, what the game is ACTUALLY about join a corp that helps you with that. Either EVE University or my corp (there's others ofcourse as well).
Tobin Farr Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Aoki Kau Edited by: Aoki Kau on 16/08/2006 09:58:30 Thanks for the advice everyone. I think what I'm reading is that, like every other MMO, Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. I understand, but I'd been told Eve was different. For the most part it is true. EVE is different and most, oh, 80% I would say, of the population are OK. However, there are a good couple of rotten potatoes (sp?). Don't let them bring you down. That's exactly what the little asshats are aiming for. Like I said. Ignore them. It hurts them most.
Laythun Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Aoki Kau Edited by: Aoki Kau on 16/08/2006 09:58:30 Thanks for the advice everyone. I think what I'm reading is that, like every other MMO, Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. I understand, but I'd been told Eve was different. Its peole like u and Tobin i deteste most definately. Just because someone does something in game YOU dont think is right, does not make them an asshat or immature or anything else. By generalizing all of them u are by default acting immature etc. the sooner u drop that kind of attitude the sooner you'll survive in eve. EVERYONE has there part to play in the grand sccheme of things, were are all pieces on this chess board. *See You In Space Cowboy*
Caleb Paine Infinite Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:14:00 - [20] Edited by: Caleb Paine on 16/08/2006 10:15:33 Edited by: Caleb Paine on 16/08/2006 10:14:49 No it's not full of that, it's how people think of it who can't see beyond their limited experience in EVE. Certainly, there's 13 yearold idiots there's even 30 yearold idiots. But the truth of the matter is, low sec is DANGEROUS, this is because EVE is a game about POWER, and GREED (yes, I capitalized those). It's not about mining your life away and being happy about selling 20 125mm railguns every day. Well it CAN be but if you want that, simply don't go into the higher risk, higher reward areas. EVE is anarchy; if you want something you'll have to take it from somebody else, if yourT stronger than him you'll win, if you're weaker you'll be beaten down. Pick yourself up and try again. This goes for the PVP part obviously, but also for mining, selling your minerals, trading, producing, haling. In every aspect o the game you try to outmaneuver, outsmart the competition. If you have produced some goods and you see a market where someone has put up 200 unit at 5 million isk each, and you calculated that you'd be doing very well with just a 4 million sell price, still making nice profit and you can keep producing that, you just cost the other guy 200 million. That's PVP, you take up the gauntlet and have a go at the other. the pewpewpew part is just more in your face, more 'messy'. If you don't like that part, then don't go to that part of the game. Looking for a corp? INCH caters for mature players, VERY newbie friendly

deathforge	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:16:00 - [21] Originally by: Aoki Kau Edited by: Aoki Kau on 16/08/2006 09:58:30 Thanks for the advice everyone. I think what I'm reading is that, like every other MMO, Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. I understand, but I'd been told Eve was different. Uh oh, here comes the waaambulance! Exactly what did you think low security space was going to be? Did you not read that little pop up box telling you that you won't be protected? Guess what people do when CONCORD isn't there swinging the pwnstick about? Ya, they shoot at stuff! What you call counterproductive is other people people having fun. You were simply unfortunate enough to be the stuff at which they were shooting. Remember it's a game, they aren't doing anything any more counterproductive than you are. You weren't being productive in the first place, you're playing a spaceship game, not solving world hunger. Quit pouting already.
Azulios Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Aoki Kau Edited by: Aoki Kau on 16/08/2006 09:58:30 Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. I understand, but I'd been told Eve was different. I now suddenly have no desire to help you. Good luck though.
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:22:00 - [23] Originally by: Aoki Kau I think what I'm reading is that, like every other MMO, Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. Why is podding counterproductive or a waste of time? It gets the victim out of the system - their clone might be several systems away - which delays possible retribution and avoids pointless smacktalk. More to the point, it's part of the game. I hate being podded by snipers or gate ganks as much as the next pilot, but PvP is EvE. You have the tools to avoid untimely death as much as they have the tools to inflict it.
Kanibal CHON R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:25:00 - [24] What you have to look forward to is that in time you'll learn how to not get yourself killed so pathetically.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:25:00 - [25] Yes, low sec is dangerous as it should be, but I for one will never understand the glory some seek by killing a noobship & pod... I hope they don't think they are actually attaining some glory, if so, then yes, they are sad individuals as some pointed out... But to the OP, you need to realize CCP allows this kind of play, and it WILL happen time and time again and NEVER stop, so just think about that before investing more time and money into EVE... And with changes coming in Kali, you will be able to "loot" corpses for implant parts. So ALL PODS will be a target! POD kills will go up 10 fold. Some players start new accounts and give their noob characters implants right away, so there is no way for you to know if a character has implats unless you POD-KILL him... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bulletproof Cupid Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Before some ganktard comes in to say "get over it," let me chime in first and warn you that EVE is pesently full of 0.4 campers that like nothing better than to pick on new players because they lack any ability to survive in 0.0 space. People like explosions and kill mails, get over it. BP x
Tao Han Caldari Crucial Electronics	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:36:00 - [27] Quote: People like explosions and kill mails, get over it. That the reason for podkilling (and ofcourse the hatemail). E-peen bragging on killboards.
Mitchum DuFinn Gallente Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:43:00 - [28] Here we go again.... For new players: 1) There is only one truly "safe" place in EVE,,, docked in a station. This is no fun however. 2) 1.0 down to 0.5 is the next "safest" place to play due to Concord's police force. There are however a few suicidal psychopaths who don't mind getting "Concorded" if they can make some other new players life miserable. You'll just have to find another system to play in if this becomes a problem. 3) Surprisingly 0.0 is the next safest place although it is by no means "safe". Other than the border systems people in 0.0 have better things to do than harass lost newbs. 4) By far the most dangerous place to play as a newb is in 0.4 down to 0.1 space. This is where the majority of pirates live and play. Concord has no police below 0.5 so the pirates can pretty much play their game. This is because pirates prey on those players who are unprepared for combat (miners, traders and missioners) who accidently cross their path. Pirates hate coming across combat ready ships flown by experienced pilots which is what 0.0 is full of. For newbs, stay in 0.5 or better while learning the game mechanics. Build a nest egg of 20-50 million while getting the skills to properly outfit your ship(s). Talk to other more experienced pilots and "learn the ropes" while looking for a corporation that appeals to you. In answer to the question "Is that all I have to look forward to?" No, you're just going through the hazing period that all newbs go through. Soon you'll be an "upper classman" and if it suits you, perhaps you'll be on the serving side of a little hazing. Overall a few other players got a cheap thrill at your expense but it wont be that way for long. There's a lot of fun times ahead if you stick it out through the begining. There wouldn't be 28,000 players on if all you had to look forward to was,,, undock,, explode.
Tobin Farr Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.16 10:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Laythun Originally by: Aoki Kau Edited by: Aoki Kau on 16/08/2006 09:58:30 Thanks for the advice everyone. I think what I'm reading is that, like every other MMO, Eve is full of immature idiots who do counterproductive things and waste their own time. I understand, but I'd been told Eve was different. Its peole like u and Tobin i deteste most definately. Just because someone does something in game YOU dont think is right, does not make them an asshat or immature or anything else. By generalizing all of them u are by default acting immature etc. the sooner u drop that kind of attitude the sooner you'll survive in eve. EVERYONE has there part to play in the grand sccheme of things, were are all pieces on this chess board. Trust me when I say, that most likely this feeling is mutual. Let me also say that, and yes, I'm sort of quoating someones sig here, if you can ruin someones day, it doesn't mean that you absolutely must. That is exactly what has happened to the OP, here. His ship and pod was destroyed just because someone could and no other reason then that. I have any and all rights to dislike this style of play - it bring little to nothing to the table.
Capt Harlock Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.16 11:03:00 - [30] Edited by: Capt Harlock on 16/08/2006 11:04:14 Was it exciting though? My guess is yes it was great!! isn't it "oh noes my ship is gone""gotta save my pod will I make it.................." not this time. I've learned a valuble lesson -----> insert I will learn ways I can survive better cos damn that was fun. Someday I will pay those rascles back when i'm big and strong and have a tight bunch of m8's and we can talk and joke on T.S or Vent. Revenge will be mine by odins nut I swear!!! As a side note EvE is cruel and beautiful and as adictive as ***** bit like my missus really. I don't really condone ganking noobs but hey many a ganked noob has started a frightening and deadly pirate career spurred on from the episode. I'm sure we even have mighty alliance leaders and veterans alike that were that poor ganked noob. You have joined a rich heretige be proud of your podding embrace it, its a right of passage. Welcome to eve and for gods sake go get even.



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