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Rose Kolodny
Gallente
Space Invaders
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Posted - 2006.08.21 14:34:00 -
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You log off, you need 15 minutes to be able to log in again + persistant and visible ships in space.
Fix issues CCP can fix for disconnects, don't care about unstable user computers/connections.
That log in/off-stuff is a big immersion killer and lame in every game. Can't take the beating? Don't go to there.
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:26:00 -
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This has been extremely frustrating when it has happened to me in the past. I empathise with the BoB folks wholeheartedly.
There isn't an easy solution in terms of getting GMs and new rules and server protocols to monitor and fix this sort of behavior.
In this case there was a happy solution and it had 2 different parts.
1. I was contacted and was prepared to take action against the member of my corp. I wanted a chance to chat with him and see what was up first, although I believed BoB's story of loggoffski - there wasn't any doubt in my mind.
2. He beat me to the punch, posted a thread on our forums where he admitted to making a very bad decision while frustrated and in the heat of the moment, and understands that there will not be any more second chances in regards to this. He has allowed BoB to pod him, a full day later. So if you guys see him zipping around in a 7km/s interdictor you know he dropped another bill on a snake set. 
I apologize to the folks who deserved the kill about the frustration caused. I know our pilot feels bad too, and now that he's thinking clearly he has done his best to make amends.
We're all playing this game together, just trying to have some fun.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.21 17:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Marko Debreault
This has been extremely frustrating when it has happened to me in the past. I empathise with the BoB folks wholeheartedly.
There isn't an easy solution in terms of getting GMs and new rules and server protocols to monitor and fix this sort of behavior.
In this case there was a happy solution and it had 2 different parts.
1. I was contacted and was prepared to take action against the member of my corp. I wanted a chance to chat with him and see what was up first, although I believed BoB's story of loggoffski - there wasn't any doubt in my mind.
2. He beat me to the punch, posted a thread on our forums where he admitted to making a very bad decision while frustrated and in the heat of the moment, and understands that there will not be any more second chances in regards to this. He has allowed BoB to pod him, a full day later. So if you guys see him zipping around in a 7km/s interdictor you know he dropped another bill on a snake set.
I apologize to the folks who deserved the kill about the frustration caused. I know our pilot feels bad too, and now that he's thinking clearly he has done his best to make amends.
We're all playing this game together, just trying to have some fun.
If it's true. I applaud you and your pilot.
It's nice to see people have a bit of honor when it comes to these broken game mechanics.
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Kronn Blackthorne
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:22:00 -
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Marko always speaks the truth !
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nanobotter Mk2 on 21/08/2006 22:37:11
^^^^ credit to the honest person who realized he was being underhanded, but doesnt change the integral broken pvp of eve IMHO.
Always comes down to someone is exploiting the log in log off feature, or exploiting the dam game using cheap little frigates/inty's, 200km snipers, safespots, and a but load of friends to killsomeone else in a much more expensive ship than you all because a bunch of whiners barked loud enough so that now a BS decked out to 200mill can;t stand up to 4 guys in inties worth a combined 80 mill.
Same crap diff pile imho, you all exploit the game mechanics in your own way. Sick of people whining about pvp who camp gates and use realitvely cheap ships + numbers and crappy game mechanics to kill people in bigger better ships worth MUCH MUCH more, or lame sniper set ups that are super safe.
( please no lame excuses about how sniping is dangerous, you just snipe in pairs or 3's and triagulate to cover each other incase some stubburn player tries to sneak in and tackle you.)
Log on off = cheap? sure but so is arse jamming lame camping mobbers ina pileof cheap ships. both are broken and both should be fixed. Wanna kill my 180mill ship? you should have to put up atleast as much in isk to do so.
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The Dokter
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: The Dokter on 21/08/2006 22:46:11
Much respect marco for making the post.
And at the op maybe you could have contacted marco and tried to stay out of this extremly hostile subject where you know it will turn in a flamebait. You have to know by now that we aren't nice guys, but keep on the good side of exploits
Nanobottermk2 I'm happy you aren't working at ccp 
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
Edited by: Nanobotter Mk2 on 21/08/2006 22:37:11
^^^^ credit to the honest person who realized he was being underhanded, but doesnt change the integral broken pvp of eve IMHO.
Always comes down to someone is exploiting the log in log off feature, or exploiting the dam game using cheap little frigates/inty's, 200km snipers, safespots, and a but load of friends to killsomeone else in a much more expensive ship than you all because a bunch of whiners barked loud enough so that now a BS decked out to 200mill can;t stand up to 4 guys in inties worth a combined 80 mill.
Same crap diff pile imho, you all exploit the game mechanics in your own way. Sick of people whining about pvp who camp gates and use realitvely cheap ships + numbers and crappy game mechanics to kill people in bigger better ships worth MUCH MUCH more, or lame sniper set ups that are super safe.
( please no lame excuses about how sniping is dangerous, you just snipe in pairs or 3's and triagulate to cover each other incase some stubburn player tries to sneak in and tackle you.)
Log on off = cheap? sure but so is arse jamming lame camping mobbers ina pileof cheap ships. both are broken and both should be fixed. Wanna kill my 180mill ship? you should have to put up atleast as much in isk to do so.
This is the best post ever. Hi. What corp or alliance are you in? And if you aren't in one yet, please join one and eve mail me the name. kthx.
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Locke DieDrake
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
Edited by: Nanobotter Mk2 on 21/08/2006 22:37:11
^^^^ credit to the honest person who realized he was being underhanded, but doesnt change the integral broken pvp of eve IMHO.
Always comes down to someone is exploiting the log in log off feature, or exploiting the dam game using cheap little frigates/inty's, 200km snipers, safespots, and a but load of friends to killsomeone else in a much more expensive ship than you all because a bunch of whiners barked loud enough so that now a BS decked out to 200mill can;t stand up to 4 guys in inties worth a combined 80 mill.
Same crap diff pile imho, you all exploit the game mechanics in your own way. Sick of people whining about pvp who camp gates and use realitvely cheap ships + numbers and crappy game mechanics to kill people in bigger better ships worth MUCH MUCH more, or lame sniper set ups that are super safe.
( please no lame excuses about how sniping is dangerous, you just snipe in pairs or 3's and triagulate to cover each other incase some stubburn player tries to sneak in and tackle you.)
Log on off = cheap? sure but so is arse jamming lame camping mobbers ina pileof cheap ships. both are broken and both should be fixed. Wanna kill my 180mill ship? you should have to put up atleast as much in isk to do so.
There is a far cry differance between an exploitive thing like logging off to avoid death, and a "cheap" tactic. Sad that more people don't know that.
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers
Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:41:00 -
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To summarise nano's post; it's an exploit to use small ships, to have EW, to have long range guns and above all - to have friends.
I guess most people living in 0.0 are screwed then.
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
To summarise nano's post; it's an exploit to use small ships, to have EW, to have long range guns and above all - to have friends.
I guess most people living in 0.0 are screwed then.
I don't like friends, then you have to talk and stuff like that and I always only fit shieldboosters in mid and armor reps in low and they keep on killing me in my brutix, why? 
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.22 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault
This has been extremely frustrating when it has happened to me in the past. I empathise with the BoB folks wholeheartedly.
There isn't an easy solution in terms of getting GMs and new rules and server protocols to monitor and fix this sort of behavior.
In this case there was a happy solution and it had 2 different parts.
1. I was contacted and was prepared to take action against the member of my corp. I wanted a chance to chat with him and see what was up first, although I believed BoB's story of loggoffski - there wasn't any doubt in my mind.
2. He beat me to the punch, posted a thread on our forums where he admitted to making a very bad decision while frustrated and in the heat of the moment, and understands that there will not be any more second chances in regards to this. He has allowed BoB to pod him, a full day later. So if you guys see him zipping around in a 7km/s interdictor you know he dropped another bill on a snake set.
I apologize to the folks who deserved the kill about the frustration caused. I know our pilot feels bad too, and now that he's thinking clearly he has done his best to make amends.
We're all playing this game together, just trying to have some fun.
This is why we have always had so much respect for the ex-FIX pilots such as Marko and Boldyn that now run Outbreak.
This issue was never about BoB, was never even about the individual from Outbreak who used these tactics. The issue is over a very simple breaking of the EULA that CCP cannot, at this time, enforce and yet causes a significant amount of dissatisfaction amongst those pod pilots who experience it.
Quoting from the FAQ on this site...
12.1 What is an exploit?
The common definition of an exploit is ôto use the game mechanics in such a way as they were not intended for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over other players.ö
This particular exploit may fall between the *****s as hard to detect and hard to police but it is an exploit none the less.
This issue needs sorting somehow, perhaps with a timer that says that once disconnected from Eve you cannot reconnect within 5 minutes. I don't know, I'm not a game designer and have no intentions of becoming one, I do know that this issue needs an innovative solution from the only people who can provide it and we need it soon.
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