Oh cool, I guess null sec and high sec shouldn't be dependent on Wormholes for Tech 3 supplies then. Glad to see you support the inclusion of sleeper spawns in Null sec. :)

Unfortunately, infrastructure hub upgrades, outposts, outpost upgrades, new blueprints, and skillbooks all have to come from Empire. Many of these must be moved via freighter. So, no, nullsec is, in fact, still dependent on empire, even while implicitly accepting your facile argument as truth.

This doesn't even get into the nightmare of trying to trade moon minerals GÇô a very regional material GÇô-áwithout a neutral trading ground, such as empire.

e: fixing quote

Null sec does not depend on High sec. At all. All the low end minerals are available in the regular belts. They just need to be mined. Null sec has all the Moon minerals necessary for any production. Null sec has the money generating capabilities as well. What's missing? Well, the change in attitude and perspective towards the game in the player base. That's all.

Nullsec SHOULD be self sufficient if one takes the challenge. Not every region should have everything in the same abundance to set incentives for trade.

However, while this in theory holds true even now, Ice TYPES are a major showstopper now. In some regions (*cough* Amarr Space *cough*) you cannot set up proper industry, because you either have to import the right isotopes or you spend twice as much fuel blocks because your towers don't have enough CPU.

WH not intended to be home, therefore it doesn't make it easy to live in one. This is - yet another! - attempt by WH-dwellers to take a firmer grip on the WH "they own", by reducing their exposure to hostile elements.

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You can use Minmatar Towers or Gallente towers, both Null sec space areas border on Amarr Null sec. If you really really must use Caldari towers, then you have to import the ice from someone, who lives in Caldari space. Trade between regions and so on; some of the border systems between Delve and Fountain and Sansha space and Minmatar space could very well turn into interesting and active trade hubs. Who does not do it? Players.

How towers are important for industry, however, eludes me. There's more than enough station systems in Null sec.

I also fixed your quoting.

Since you don't seem to have a clue, start by reading this devblog:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/?_ga=1.52873704.1308779678.1413270597

Don't be so jelly, kid :)

Since you don't seem to have anything useful to contribute, I read the devblog, hoping it may have the knowledge that appears to have eluded you. I must have missed the part where it extols the virtues of ice in WH-space, and how removing the need for the dwellers to leave their cosy little world would improve the game. Please point it out to me, kid :)

As some people have already mentioned in this thread, we do intentionally set up resources to encourage trade and movement, leaving surpluses and deficits of certain things in different areas of space.

That being said, I think we may be able to make some changes in this particular area in the near future. It probably won't be in the way you expect though.

Now I am curious...
What is coming up?
Alternative Polarized Fuel Blocks that are made of Tritanium, but set your POS shield resistances to 0%? :-D

Or how about Solar Cell Arrays that reduce POS fuel need but cost PI stuff to maintain?

Now I am curious...
What is coming up?
Alternative Polarized Fuel Blocks that are made of Tritanium, but set your POS shield resistances to 0%? :-D

Or how about Solar Cell Arrays that reduce POS fuel need but cost PI stuff to maintain?

Solar cell arrays sound like a damn good idea actually...

Nullsec should be self sufficient if one takes the challenge. Not every region needs to have everything in the same abundance though to set incentives for trade.

However, while this in theory holds true even now, Ice TYPES are a major showstopper now. In some regions (*cough* Amarr Space *cough*) you cannot set up proper industry, because you either have to import the right isotopes or you spend twice as many fuel blocks because your towers don't have enough CPU.

Or how about Solar Cell Arrays that reduce POS fuel need but cost PI stuff to maintain?

I, too, think Solar Cel Arrays sounds both interesting and viable. Anchor enough of them and you could reduce your fuel usage to 0. But they cost a lot of CPU and/or PG. So they reduce your POS's functionality.

WH not intended to be home, therefore it doesn't make it easy to live in one. This is - yet another! - attempt by WH-dwellers to take a firmer grip on the WH "they own", by reducing their exposure to hostile elements.

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On a scale of 1 to 10 (you can use 11 if your super mad i guess) how mad would you be if i said i'm pushing hard to get this added to wormholes?

On a scale of 1 to 10 (you can use 11 if your super mad i guess) how mad would you be if i said i'm pushing hard to get this added to wormholes?

On a scale of 1 to 10 (you can use 11 if your super mad i guess) how mad would you be if i said i'm pushing hard to get this added to wormholes?

+1 for solar cells. (fuel cost vs defence)

i had the idea to make a new type of wormhole that connects Wormhole/Null/low/high and is only source of ice. it should encourage competition about this precious ressource and remove self-sufficiency for all parts of space (in terms of ice).
"TL;DR a Comet-System has 5 statics. each in a different random region. system only exists 24h, after that everything in it explodes in a superNova. it has plenty of and is the only place to find ICE. "
this is from my thread i made because the idea is too big to be a reply. find it here.

Oh cool, I guess null sec and high sec shouldn't be dependent on Wormholes for Tech 3 supplies then. Glad to see you support the inclusion of sleeper spawns in Null sec. :)

On a scale of 1 to 10 (you can use 11 if your super mad i guess) how mad would you be if i said i'm pushing hard to get this added to wormholes?

Why are you pushing for this?
Beeing a wormholer myself, I always thought it made sense not to have ice in Anoikis. If I'm living on the rim, I would expect some reliance on known space, and the effort/risk involved with that (logistics).

// Edit: I guess I'd give it a 4 on the mad scale - not really mad but a bit confused...

Why are you pushing for this?
Beeing a wormholer myself, I always thought it made sense not to have ice in Anoikis. If I'm living on the rim, I would expect some reliance on known space, and the effort/risk involved with that (logistics).

// Edit: I guess I'd give it a 4 on the mad scale - not really mad but a bit confused...

Dark matter fuel blocks that explode disastrously if Michael Bey so much as points a camera at them?

Hmm.. call me a pessimist but how would you get CCP to create all the new solar systems without gates every now and then?

If you "get" my science(y) drift here, a star takes a few days to form and plantes are not creates by magic, they also take a few days to form.

A supernova (class 1) will end everything in a 100 lightyear radius - ouch.