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phyrerunner	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:21:00 - [1] im sure my subject says enough about the developers. 10 years in serveice and they still cant keep a damn thing running!
de Molay	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:28:00 - [2] I presume (hope?) you're older than 10, and yet you still suck. Nobody's perfect, eh?
Echo147 E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:30:00 - [3] You must be one of those people who throws a winning lottery ticket away because it wasn't printed on the right paper.
Britannica	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:32:00 - [4] its hard keeping a network of 500 computers and 4000 users up and running without crashes to some parts of the network so keeping a single server thats handling some very complex software and anything up to 29,000 similtanious internet connections running for 99% of a year is a feat of computer management unrivaled anywhere in the world
Noru Caldari Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:32:00 - [5] I think loitering in forums can be "rewarded" with either suspending or banning an account...
Sabrina Curtis	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:33:00 - [6] After posting this thread so many times, I hope school is crap for you when you go back after the holidays.
Grim Starwind Devils collective	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:33:00 - [7] Originally by: phyrerunner im sure my subject says enough about the developers. 10 years in serveice and they still cant keep a damn thing running! lets see you do better
Lady OpheliaKnutts	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Sabrina Curtis After posting this thread so many times, I hope school is crap for you when you go back after the holidays. it proberly stuck when he posted and he didn't just double post he posted it the 6t times by mistake otherwise he really is a plank and should get a life
Shinon Asahina Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:38:00 - [9] I actually had a question about that: The game says (C)1997 and yet from what I remember, the beta of this game was only in like 2002 or 2003, wasn't it? Did they have a previous game before that, or was this game just in the planning stages for like 6 years?
Liegus	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:44:00 - [10] IBTLD&AB! (In Before The Lock, Deletion, and Account Bannination) :p
phyrerunner	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:44:00 - [11] 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. please dont be a dirty coark soaker.
Shinon Asahina Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:46:00 - [12] I'm sure we could have a flawlessly running server if they had just refined the original release code. Of course we wouldn't have any updates since then, but then it would be stable right? Throwing a truckload of cash at something doesn't magically make problems disappear. There is no Magic Server Pixie Dust! ;p
Dhejay Centrix	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:47:00 - [13] Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 23/08/2006 21:49:02 oO double post
Kittamaru	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:47:00 - [14] Phyrerunner, no way in Hell you are a college grad... otherwise you'd be a bit more mature than that
Dhejay Centrix	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Britannica its hard keeping a network of 500 computers and 4000 users up and running without crashes to some parts of the network ... not really, unless you don't know what you're doing... IBTLD&AB also!!!! WOOT WOOT
Grim Starwind Devils collective	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Shinon Asahina I actually had a question about that: The game says (C)1997 and yet from what I remember, the beta of this game was only in like 2002 or 2003, wasn't it? Did they have a previous game before that, or was this game just in the planning stages for like 6 years? Quite possibly because CCP have been a copyrighted company name since 1997 ? ever think of that one
Mie Kunth	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:54:00 - [17] Originally by: phyrerunner 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. please dont be a dirty coark soaker. I feel sorry for your fellow countrymen having to put up with such a lame attitute. Grow up or get lost!
Belan Zeno Caldari Development Horizons	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Dhejay Centrix ... not really, unless you don't know what you're doing... IBTLD&AB also!!!! WOOT WOOT I disagree ... I run 6 clusters at the moment. Granted, they're UNIX and Linux, and not Windows, but cluster stability is a universal challenge. When people make comments stating it is easy, that indicates to me they've never managed large clusters. If you have 500 individual servers, you may experience problems on one that won't affect any of the other servers. In a clustered environment, one server out of 500 could potentially bring an entire cluster down, especially if the problem is either a) disruptive, or b) infectious. I presume CCP is using their own clustering software, which throws into the mix another whole level of complexity. Since I am a person who does a lot of clustering work, I can appreciate the daunting task of patching so many servers and having everything run perfectly under a substantial load. That being said ... I've only been playing the game for 2 weeks, and so far have been exceptionally disappointed with the amount of crashes and downtime the game has been experiencing in that period of time.
Britannica	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:07:00 - [19] Edited by: Britannica on 23/08/2006 22:10:20 Originally by: Dhejay Centrix Originally by: Britannica its hard keeping a network of 500 computers and 4000 users up and running without crashes to some parts of the network ... not really, unless you don't know what you're doing... IBTLD&AB also!!!! WOOT WOOT it was a college network, I should have included that info, sorry about that. a small business network where everyone obeys the rules I do admit is easy to maintain, a college network with bored computer tech students attempting to hack it everyfew minutes can be hard to maintain
tnvnu2 Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:11:00 - [20] Edited by: tnvnu2 on 23/08/2006 22:12:46 Originally by: phyrerunner 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. please dont be a dirty coark soaker. Have to agree, and to the guy who says to manage 500 pcs on a network! if you know what your doing then its not hard, set the server up as it should be and it will stay up, unless its something out of your control. I think there is far to much f-ing around with the servers, and last night was a bit of a joke, double time scale, hows it go, over estimate under achive, wonder if i will be getting the day credited for total game play loss
Echo147 E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:27:00 - [21] Originally by: phyrerunner 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. please dont be a dirty coark soaker. Business. Lose. Which. Afraid. Than. Cork. Mr super educated college grad.
Reachok Amarr Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:34:00 - [22] Originally by: tnvnu2 Edited by: tnvnu2 on 23/08/2006 22:12:46 Originally by: phyrerunner 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. please dont be a dirty coark soaker. Have to agree, and to the guy who says to manage 500 pcs on a network! if you know what your doing then its not hard, set the server up as it should be and it will stay up, unless its something out of your control. I think there is far to much f-ing around with the servers, and last night was a bit of a joke, double time scale, hows it go, over estimate under achive, wonder if i will be getting the day credited for total game play loss My God, please leave the game if you guys feel that strongly about the server issues! First, to the guy that manages a 30,000 person server; we have no way of verifying your claim. I could say I'm a CIA operative. Does saying that make it so? Not hardly. Next, 500 machines and no problems? I run a small mixed wired and wireless network in my home. It chugs along for sometimes weeks on end, then suddenly goes bonkers. You cannot tell me that you have NO trouble on a 500 machine network, much less Mr. 30K server dude! Mixed clients, people doing odd things TO their clients, external ISP issues, etc. I'm not a network tech, but I'm sure any combinations of what I've mentioned plus Mr. Murphy makes it difficult to run a single shard server that caters to 300,000 clients. Lastly, only a very small percentage of the 300K subscribers read or respond to these forums. So all of our arguments, including this one fail to reach a wide audience.
Roddic Gallente The Blood Roses	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:59:00 - [23] the 10 years thing.... what was eve based on. was it earth and beyond, i can't remember now. now theres just eve. but seriously, if you can't handle it go, i'm sure there is someone out there that will give you some loving.... well maybe not. shame on you complaining during eve patch blues. give the guys a chance to actually get it up and running. i'm kind of looking forward to seeing the changes, although i'll be sad when the courier missions go. the hipcups are all part of the game anyway, think of it like a spacial phenomina on a universal scale, it has you holed up in station for a few days. you can go out, but why risk it. you might loose your ship.... or worse, meet up with 'dirty deeds', just listen to there last victims song. http://www.videovat.com/videos/2263/acdc-dirty-deeds-done-with-sheep.aspx
testy7754	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Britannica its hard keeping a network of 500 computers and 4000 users up and running without crashes to some parts of the network so keeping a single server thats handling some very complex software and anything up to 29,000 similtanious internet connections running for 99% of a year is a feat of computer management unrivaled anywhere in the world QFE
ExParrot Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.24 01:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Britannica its hard keeping a network of 500 computers and 4000 users up and running without crashes to some parts of the network so keeping a single server thats handling some very complex software and anything up to 29,000 similtanious internet connections running for 99% of a year is a feat of computer management unrivaled anywhere in the world Meh, here in the world of the evil telecommunications companies, keeping millions of people on the phones 99.999% of the year is our bread and butter. Having said that, yeah, it's very hard. And expensive. And having in the past been exactly where CCP are right now, I can sympathise. Why don't you whiners go get a real life, at least for a few days, m'kay? --- Your mother uses Emacs.
Alexis Flamestar Gallente ANZEP Australia-New Zealand Eve Players Group	Posted - 2006.08.24 01:16:00 - [26] I will be the first one to ***** if something is majorly wrong (like not being able to log in) But Upgrades are a necessary evil if you want to keep the game interesting. I don't mind bugs can't find the all at once. I pretty much commend the developers of Eve. They are the 2nd place I have found it worth spending money on. Cheers
Effective Overseer Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.24 04:30:00 - [27] You're a loser. End of message.
Hunter Kag	Posted - 2006.08.24 04:41:00 - [28] Edited by: Hunter Kag on 24/08/2006 04:43:39 Edited by: Hunter Kag on 24/08/2006 04:42:48 I would usually leave this one alone, but... Originally by: phyrerunner 1. i didnt mean to post so many times, only meant 1 post. Fine. a mistake is a mistake. Even though someone so well versed in computers and software should know how to post. Originally by: phyrerunner 2. im not in school, i have been a col. grad for a few years now. I have been in IT for over 15 years, the last 10 in Network Admin. I went to a business school to learn computer programming. I sarted out in mainframe writing COBOL and JCL. Everything I know about Personal Computers is self taught. I have been running my own Network Consulting company for the past 9 years and all of my clients are very happy with my work. Originally by: phyrerunner 3. i currently run a network with more the 30k people. Their is no 'I' in team. It is amasing that you alone keep a 30,000 node network running all by your self. I also find it strange that your 30,000 node network is just slightly larger than the new PCU record of 28,020 that CCP reached on the 14th of this month. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. Originally by: phyrerunner 4. this type of service in a bussines would loose many of contracts wich for your lamers=CASH. I would have thought that someone who deals with software on a daily basis would read the EULA (End User License Agreement) before paying for a software client. I will copy and paste the part you should have read. This is from part 12 of the EULA: 12. NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. Originally by: phyrerunner 5. look at the wayyou flame when you all feel the same, just tyo AFFRAID to admit it. I do not feel the same way as you. I know the problems that are involved with running an 80 server cluster that gives access to tens of thousands of clients via the internet. So sorry, the only afraid here is that, I am afraid you're wrong. Originally by: phyrerunner 6. with the revenue created from this game(cash for the lamers)ther should never be a need to downtime other then server resets. So you are saying that they should be able to patch about 1 million (1,000,000) lines of code with a reboot? I am starting wo wonder more about your number 3 statement. Originally by: phyrerunner 7. if you dont know about networking then you are uneducated in the fact and have no real reason to post other then to flame, wich is pretty ridiculous for all you super players who get off on FLAMING. Maybe it's just me, but this one looks like a flame. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong. (the odds are very in my favor though) I do belive that CCP is doing a fine job, and I am not afraid to admit it.

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