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Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 00:38:00 -
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To whom it may concern.
We are requesting a change to the official alliance map. It currently shows the great wildlands as belonging to persons other than the thukker tribe. This is not correct, and legally impossible. All systems in that region are the soverign property of the Thukker Tribe, and any claims are contrairy to established law, and therefore illegal.
As residents of this region, we are severly offended to see that we ,supposedly, live under the control of an alliance. This is untrue. Those claimg the wildlands as there own, illegally, are seen, only near the stations and empire space. You can find them downing innocent, non-hostile persons, mostly incapable of defending themselves (like the 2 shuttles I watched destroyed for no reason last night while cloaked).
How do you claim control of entire region by camping empire gates and stations, ineffectivly I might add, and NOT HAVE A SINGLE SYSTEM CLAIMED AS SOVERIGN? Is it really that easy? Just say it is yours and it is?
Best Regards,
=6HI= Management
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Aeaea
XanoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.25 02:17:00 -
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What the backstory or the map display shows is completely contrary to what big guns show.
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Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.25 02:57:00 -
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the map displays the alliances operating in the systems... not the factions or corporations...
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Feterous Jolin
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.25 05:20:00 -
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You will see that several NPC regions are claimed by major alliances. Stain, G Wildlands, Venal, Syndicate, etc. The "alliance map" shows which of the big alliances live and operate out of the space. They claim this space and will kill anyone trying to leech off their space. All the NPC stations do are make it more difficult to keep people out, but it does not make them any less easy to gank.
True the claim may be "illegal" to the role players or whatever, but the alliance map is really not for role playing. It is used to show who is in power and where they live. Take it at that, and either avoid hostile 0.0 space, make friends with the alliances and corps living out of the npc space you are interested in, or forge your own path and take a claim for yourself.
If you want to try and claim part the great wildlands, post it on the map forum topic, not in here.
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Engad Tanon
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.25 08:06:00 -
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nothing to change
all belongs to me
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Max Teranous
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 09:28:00 -
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Lets put it this way - if you slowboat a BS through Great Wildlands, it won't be Thukker Tribe that gives you a free trip back to the cloning station !
Max 
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 10:04:00 -
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Great Wildlands are completly unclaimed and only friendly Noobish carebear corps are ever there.
Dont believe me?
Please come on down and see for yourselves. It's a wide open sky with nothing but blue everywhere.
Nobody would shoot any innocents there ever, we promise.
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Lady Zirconia
Caldari
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:27:00 -
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The map definitely doesnt show sovereignty. If you want to see sovereignty use the in-game map filter. When you decide to do this you will notice that the major alliances actually have a distinct minority of their "claimed" space as sovereign. But you are welcome to make your own claims, if you can afford the losses...
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6ynelle
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 15:49:00 -
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So if you -V- guys have such uber control of the wildlands how is it we have multipule POSs in wildlands. You DO NOT have control over it regardless of what you claim. Having a few gates, and stations camped does not mean control.
PS Slowboatong a full indy through there is fun, but hardly a challange....
Again we request the Wildlands be marked as UNCONTROLLED. -V- does not have control of the REGION. I will be happy to send the map makers the locations of our POSs to prove it...
Thakns Again..
=6HI= Management
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6ynelle
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: 6ynelle on 25/08/2006 16:02:26
 Originally by: Max Teranous
Lets put it this way - if you slowboat a BS through Great Wildlands, it won't be Thukker Tribe that gives you a free trip back to the cloning station !
LOL ya right, you all talk a good game, but you must be tied up with RA, as wildlands, contrary to the propaganda, is not a dangerous place to live or work...
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Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:16:00 -
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I believe Gynelle was trying to make the point that we are not new to this area, and we do move plenty of gear through the wildlands, in unarmed indys. No alliance has stopped us, nor even been aware of our operations. For one to claim contorl of an area they should at the minimum be able to tell how many POSs are in the systems they control, and who they belong to.
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Zirconia
Edited by: Lady Zirconia on 25/08/2006 11:48:59
The Alliance map definitely doesnt show sovereignty. If you want to see sovereignty use the in-game map filter. When you decide to do this you will notice that the major alliances actually have a distinct minority of their "claimed" space as sovereign. But you are welcome to make your own claims, if you can afford the losses...
(Feterous, this is a RP forum - your comments have no place here.)
Our losses are minimal at best, much lower than we had planned on. All of our missions to date have been successful. Our buisness is thriving. Your threats, and implications of stupidity, do not scare us, nor does it reflect the truth of the situation. We already know the truth, your propaganda is just that...
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
Rai Ardose
Caldari
Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.25 21:25:00 -
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well you just invited an alliance like 200 times bigger than your tiny corp to go and give a bash on your hard earned POS, good luck on defending it m8 :)
PS. im taking bets on the outcome 
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Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Swift Wind on 25/08/2006 21:48:46
Edited by: Swift Wind on 25/08/2006 21:45:37
If our small fleet, less than 10, can tie up an alliances scouts and Dreds, then our mission would be considered a success....
As we have proven, we cannot be stopped from deploying our POSs, therefore conrol is not established.
As far as losing towers is concerned, comon now, do you think we would allow our major assets to be "under-threat"? you underestimate us. Our POSs are out there to prove a point nothing else... You assume we value them, you assume wrong.
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
5amm
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:17:00 -
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I think it comes down to the simple fact that we do what we please, as do you all. We have not been stopped, and cannot be stopped. Big guns mean the same as small guns to us. We fly around all day unarmed. So here comes all the empty threats that are as scary as my eight year old daughter. If it is worth the while of a huge alliance to come for us, then we must be doing things right. Like has been said we are a TINY company. It must be embarassing to have such an insignifigant tiny newbie corp passing through unscathed.... and able to set up POS's as easy as if it was done in the empire. I personally will continue to operate unarmed. And as for those big guns... I will try to remember to shake in fear next time I see them!
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Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.26 03:11:00 -
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oh my god... this is great...
look, don't mess with the big alliances, you might get hurt...
well... i have absolutely no idea in what shape the alliance is that "owns" Great Wildlands... but i'm positive they could blow you out of that region if they really wanted... you said your not afraid of the big guns... well... neither am i... but a lot of guns is scary...
losing a POS is bad, takes an impact on your isk... losing another POS, is a bit worse, losing all of your POS's + the indy's because of 24/7 camps is even more bad...
like i said, i have no idea who or what the alliance is... but if i was in that alliance, i would make you swallow your own words ;)...
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Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Swift Wind on 26/08/2006 03:43:09
Edited by: Swift Wind on 26/08/2006 03:39:49
Originally by: Sovereign533
oh my god... this is great...
look, don't mess with the big alliances, you might get hurt...
So we have been told.....
A fight is not what we are looking for. A correction is.
Regardless of claims, our point stands, Great Wildlands is not under alliance contol. Alliances claiming control do so in word alone, with no established control, we seek to prove this alone.
As for your threat, you may be able to kill us, but you cannot stop us, unless you tie up your resources to do so. Stoping 6 or 7 guys sounds easy, but how many gates you need to camp? How many scouts you gonna send out to check EVERY moon in the region? How many dreds you gonna task out to destroy the POS Towers (nope no arrays, sorry) T1 frigs and indys, you do find? How mush ISK you gonna spend? How much time are you going to waste sitting at a gate in the middle of nowhere, hoping one of us might show up? I would be proud to be on the recieving end of a million ISK assult, but would you be proud to spend it? :)
PS- BF2 player eh? Ever heard of =PBF=?
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
LTD THOR
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.26 07:10:00 -
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i heared fried grasshoppers are a wholesome meal cus lots of proteins!? i should call our high council..
My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;) |
Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.26 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 26/08/2006 10:31:03
My question is .. well what if the map mods told ya to get real and do something about it.
Um.. what are you gonna do about if they just say **** off like.. uh what they are doing right now hmm? you are stuck with a few choices.
Fight to claim sov, or sit here and whine more about it. It will only come down to to who teaches who a lesson in proper 'manners' of regional sov. 
This game is in a line of thinking of those who are strong are right in game. If you don't have it, shut up and just hit them when they don't expect it or don't see it coming. Its the inevitable truth of how things swing here. Might = right. If you don't have it, you don't have a say, only if you have some cause of true righteous communal bearing on your side will you.
"Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy" |
Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.26 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 26/08/2006 10:31:03
My question is .. well what if the map mods told ya to get real and do something about it.
Um.. what are you gonna do about if they just say **** off like.. uh what they are doing right now hmm? you are stuck with a few choices.
Fight to claim sov, or sit here and whine more about it. It will only come down to to who teaches who a lesson in proper 'manners' of regional sov.
This game is in a line of thinking of those who are strong are right in game. If you don't have it, shut up and just hit them when they don't expect it or don't see it coming. Its the inevitable truth of how things swing here. Might = right. If you don't have it, you don't have a say, only if you have some cause of true righteous communal bearing on your side will you.
and even then your flamed xD...
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Swift Wind
A fight is not what we are looking for. A correction is.
And so...you deliberately invite an attack. Right. Rather than submitting a simple post to the mao thread. Which, btw, you're very unlikely to get honoured. Jusr becuase you have a few POS in an out of thw way system in no way negates the local alliance's hold over the region, and you've now made yourself very visible targets.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:25:00 -
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Request Denied.
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Request Denied.
So all we need to do is form an alliance and sya we operate out of a region, and it's ours?
Sad....
So be it....
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: LTD THOR
i heared fried grasshoppers are a wholesome meal cus lots of proteins!? i should call our high council..
Ever try to catch a grasshopper? You'll need your councils assistance...
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
Swift Wind
Caldari
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Edited by: Lord Wimbishi on 26/08/2006 10:31:03
My question is .. well what if the map mods told ya to get real and do something about it.
Um.. what are you gonna do about if they just say **** off like.. uh what they are doing right now hmm? you are stuck with a few choices.
Fight to claim sov, or sit here and whine more about it. It will only come down to to who teaches who a lesson in proper 'manners' of regional sov.
This game is in a line of thinking of those who are strong are right in game. If you don't have it, shut up and just hit them when they don't expect it or don't see it coming. Its the inevitable truth of how things swing here. Might = right. If you don't have it, you don't have a say, only if you have some cause of true righteous communal bearing on your side will you.
"...because it's there, is reason enough..." |
Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.26 23:55:00 -
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As i understand it the territory map expresses who is the dominent Pod-pilot alliance/alliances in an area of space. Therefore although the Great Wildlands are officially in control of the Thukker Tribe, they are not a POD-pilot based alliance & thus do not feature on the POD-pilot territory map.
There are few regions in the galaxy where the alliance shown in control of a region is the only one in that area. In most cases they are merely the largest, strongest or smartest. So if you grasshoppers formed an alliance, fought LV & defeated them to the extent that you became the dominent entity in the region, then you could have your name on the map. As said above by others though it would be a laugh if you managed.
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TheTaintedOne
Northern Intelligence
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.27 01:25:00 -
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hehe, this thread is funny.
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Morela
Gallente
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.27 02:14:00 -
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It's prolly cause the map creator couldn't stop giggling when he tried to write
"thukker tribe".. :)
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LTD THOR
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.27 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Swift Wind
Ever try to catch a grasshopper? You'll need your councils assistance...
hey, i¦m only the ship¦s cook!
My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;) |
TooooWANDA
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Posted - 2006.08.27 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: LTD THOR
Originally by: Swift Wind
Ever try to catch a grasshopper? You'll need your councils assistance...
hey, i¦m only the ship¦s cook!
imho...
Best way to catch and cook is with area affect napalm. |
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