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Winthorp 2858	Posted - 2014.11.07 06:40:27 - [61] - Quote Sirius Fidelis wrote: Winthorp wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Winthorp wrote: Who will actually run the sites in there, everyone like me will have a toon in there. why would a nullseccer like you care about this system? I didn't expect this from you Jack? I still maintain toons in WH space for the jew jew but not the pew pew, is that so wrong.... You're what's wrong with w-space. You are whats wrong with humanity, grow some balls and stop posting on NPC alts.
unimatrix0030 Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed. 153	Posted - 2014.11.07 07:51:48 - [62] - Quote Rember guys the new Therra-space should look like a lawless jita version only in a system 20-100 times bigger. So ever tried to scan an off grid booster in jita? And found just the one yu were looking for?
Starbuck05 C.Q.B 247	Posted - 2014.11.07 08:41:51 - [63] - Quote Only thing i see from this is ships having to do multiple warps to get to one location -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
Rek Seven Probe Patrol 1955	Posted - 2014.11.07 08:50:16 - [64] - Quote I'm interested to hear more about the new systems. I hope that the cloning facility in Thera only allow you to swap clones within that system or possibly jump to another wormhole station with stations in. But why no wormhole statics? That part is a bit disappointing but i'll have to wait to hear more before i can understand that decision i guess. One point of concern is the fact that Thera sounds like it will be dominated by one large coalition. +1
Anthar Thebess 797	Posted - 2014.11.07 09:14:20 - [65] - Quote All player constructed stargates link to this system PHOEBE Retrospective
Marox Calendale Human League 33	Posted - 2014.11.07 10:09:37 - [66] - Quote Tiger Tesla wrote: Maybe this will be CCP's attempt to still get the "media numbers" from having large space battles. Slow night? Tired of ratting/scanning/roaming? Oh, I hear there is a fight brewing in Thera. All of K-space (and wormholers with connections to k-space or thera proper) jump clone into HUGE battles. No travel time needed. You always know what system it will be happening in. Yeah, because HUGE battles with Tidi going down to 1% is what all Eve Players want... Quote: It might be hard to get to the first time, but once you can put a clone there you can always find your way back. That reason alone might make it a huge market for PvP. No Caps, No Cynos, no idea how many people are in system. Maybe your 30 man fleet is the big fish. Maybe there is a 100 man fleet combat scanning you down. Maybe there is a 500 man group about to land on your brawl. I predict more than 100 Scanprobes all the time being working is this System. All wormholers ara able to scan, even mostly every WH alt is able to scan. Even if Thera will be really as 1.000 AU big it won-¦t be a big deal to bring on more scanners. This may be only an issue for nullbears.
unimatrix0030 Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed. 153	Posted - 2014.11.07 10:56:09 - [67] - Quote Bad that it is in stations though. In a pos you can d-scan and see if anyone is out of the shields. A system with no local and only stations... . Anyone up for a alpha strike fleet outside of the stations? The first one poking his head out will go boom. Or vice versa, you hang at a station in a 10 man fleet and then 100 man fleet undocks, or 2 fleets of 100not friendly to each other... . Well at least many many many more people will now get to know why docking in wormholes(and by extensions stationgames) is a no no... .
RudinV Hard Knocks Inc. Irresponsible Use of Capital. 451	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:02:46 - [68] - Quote funny, looks like most of the peeps here never heard/used insta undock bookmarks
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Unsettled. 228	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:14:47 - [69] - Quote unimatrix0030 wrote: Bad that it is in stations though. In a pos you can d-scan and see if anyone is out of the shields. A system with no local and only stations... . Anyone up for a alpha strike fleet outside of the stations? The first one poking his head out will go boom. Or vice versa, you hang at a station in a 10 man fleet and then 100 man fleet undocks, or 2 fleets of 100not friendly to each other... . Well at least many many many more people will now get to know why docking in wormholes(and by extensions stationgames) is a no no... . Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp? ~Bringer of happiness http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Zappity Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 1519	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:17:12 - [70] - Quote Did he say no local or no immediate local? Wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed or something. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.

HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:17:28 - [71] - Quote calaretu wrote: Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp? Those with most / enough guests on the Station?
Lloyd Roses Blue-Fire 736	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:22:04 - [72] - Quote HoruSeth wrote: calaretu wrote: Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp? Those with most / enough guests on the Station? Thera IV-4 ofc. If you don't camp the one station with the market, you're doing something wrong. RudinV wrote: funny, looks like most of the peeps here never heard/used insta undock bookmarks #Bubbles "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
marVLs 665	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:27:20 - [73] - Quote I hope bubbles won't be allowed there...
Winthorp 2858	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:29:29 - [74] - Quote marVLs wrote: I hope bubbles won't be allowed there... Stay in HS if you don't like bubbles.
Necharo Rackham The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 44	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:35:47 - [75] - Quote I can't see why there would be more than a limited market there to supply local demand. It's difficult to supply in large quantities, and there is no reason to go to a system which is constantly moving around to trade when you could just go to Jita. If it has some kind of special quality about it then it'll become dominated by one coalition, if it doesn't then it'll become a wasteland - beyond a certain size things kind of cease to matter - why would you go looking for fights in a system where you couldn't even use dscan properly (because every celestial is separated by much more than 14AU).
unimatrix0030 Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed. 153	Posted - 2014.11.07 11:38:40 - [76] - Quote marVLs wrote: I hope bubbles won't be allowed there... Security status 0 so expect bubbles and lots of them, in all flavors .
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1334	Posted - 2014.11.07 12:03:58 - [77] - Quote Whilst we have absolutely no idea of how CCP will handle stations, or the space for that matter, the main trading station, would become unuseable if there is not a mechanism to keep access to it open. Putting a station in a wormhole is a honeypot. Whilst one can think lots of content creation must be good ? Right? What would actually occur is they become suicide zones. You could reduce or increase ones personal opportunity to increase risk or lower it only marginally. Just being there will ensure combat 99 times out of 100. So the logical, simplest, way to handle this situation is to have VERY high power station guns that reach all of the stations grid, that react to any agressive action, swiftly and viciously! This would be similar to a port in the carribean during the privateer/pirate days, no one would fight in the port, or get a cannon ball up ones raggity arse! Outside the port? Well we all know how lawless that was! No shortage of conflict there! There will be many places to find combat, rather than hanging around at the station closing down all activity and trade. I am sure CCP will have thought of this and have their own solutions, as they naturally want the new space to be used by many. [u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
Winthorp 2858	Posted - 2014.11.07 12:08:19 - [78] - Quote Necharo Rackham wrote: I can't see why there would be more than a limited market there to supply local demand. It's difficult to supply in large quantities, and there is no reason to go to a system which is constantly moving around to trade when you could just go to Jita. To touch on this for a moment, if your popped outside your chain into HS and there was a fully stocked market just slightly above Jita prices would you burn the 13 jumps to Jita to buy what you needed? Market nerds would inturn also be well aware that the people that would open up into Thera potentially might have really ****** routes to Jita and may see the benefit in stocking this market up to a healthy point. Those sellers might also avoid the 0.01 mouse scroll war a little. Also if it does become a system full of conflict then obviously the basic war items would be in demand locally and not just from the random spawn in WhHs.
corbexx eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 873	Posted - 2014.11.07 12:19:55 - [79] - Quote spaceghost69 wrote: Perma Tidi incoming they have a plan in place. it wont be 420 stations fozzies corrected that rumor on twitter. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better
Rek Seven Probe Patrol 1955	Posted - 2014.11.07 12:44:35 - [80] - Quote Why no wormhole statics Corbexx? is there a reason other than "just because"? IMO it would be cool to have one static for the 6 classes of wormhole system... Or could it be that CCP have listening to me and they're going to allow wormholers to build a wormhole generator to gain access to these new systems?? +1

Jack Miton Isogen 5 3919	Posted - 2014.11.07 12:58:43 - [81] - Quote Winthorp wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Winthorp wrote: Who will actually run the sites in there, everyone like me will have a toon in there. why would a nullseccer like you care about this system? I didn't expect this from you Jack? I still maintain toons in WH space for the jew jew but not the pew pew, is that so wrong.... like every good PL lemming... Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
Jack Miton Isogen 5 3919	Posted - 2014.11.07 13:00:32 - [82] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: Or could it be that CCP have listening to me god i hope not... Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Unsettled. 228	Posted - 2014.11.07 13:02:32 - [83] - Quote Rek Seven wrote: Why no wormhole statics Corbexx? is there a reason other than "just because"? IMO it would be cool to have one static for the 6 classes of wormhole system... Or could it be that CCP have listening to me and they're going to allow wormholers to build a wormhole generator to gain access to these new systems?? If so that would certainly make it a tradehub for wormholespace and also you would have perma connection from all the big groups to brawl eachother 23.75/7 ~Bringer of happiness http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Rek Seven Probe Patrol 1955	Posted - 2014.11.07 14:28:59 - [84] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Rek Seven wrote: Or could it be that CCP have listening to me god i hope not... Unfurtunatly for your Spack Mitton, they already have: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=405240#post405240 Your welcome btw +1
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 826	Posted - 2014.11.07 14:58:28 - [85] - Quote Aivo Dresden wrote: Waits for RvB to move in Blue in top station, Red in bottom. Let's roll fellas. That probably won't happen. They'd run the risk of losing all their Poco's in highsec (that is pretty much how they pay for their losses and then some). We are making some pretty big assumptions, which in most respects is warranted as we don't have much information. The questions that need to be answered. 1) How many wormholes are there theoretically could connect to this space 2) How large in AU is this space 3) How many space stations are in this space 4) What is the un-announced effect of this wormhole (there is one, they did not say) 5) Can people set medical clones here 6) Can people set Jump clones here 7) How large are the wormholes connecting to kspace (remember, kspace includes highsec, lowsec and nullsec). 8) Will freighters, the tug, the Orca, and the Rorqual (as they are capitals) be able to access this space. 9) Will the wormholes be collapsible, or will they regenerate (ala frig wormhole) 10) Will there be missions here (its a NPC station) 11) Will there be taxes here for selling stuff (new trade hub, why would we use this over jita) 12) Will there be docking fees. 13) What type of sleeper sites will be here (no capitals,can't escalate, no bounties, to Deployable pointless) 14) Will local be banned here (more than just no local, because if this turns into a major market hub, the jitabots will just spam the everliving daylights out of it, making no local pretty pointless). 15) How many of these new types of wormhole spaces will their be. Fozzie just spoke about this one, but mentioned that there will be others (possibly in the same release?) 16) How will grids work (this one is important as this space is enormous). 17) Can people buy an office here? There's a bunch of questions, with no answers atm. Yaay!!!!
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Unsettled. 228	Posted - 2014.11.07 15:02:53 - [86] - Quote I would actually prefer if we were given no anwers but would have to discover it ourself. Like the original launch of wormholes ~Bringer of happiness http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 121	Posted - 2014.11.07 15:06:58 - [87] - Quote Really interesting that they're going to have a special wormhole effect in that system. I heard from Fremen that it's going to be Isk doubling. Yeah, well, it's just like my-á*opinion*, man.
Caleb Seremshur The Atomic Fallout Kids 408	Posted - 2014.11.07 15:15:43 - [88] - Quote Nash MacAllister wrote: It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility that some sort of mutual agreement is reached among wh entities on system "rules". Of course, as was said, it could also be a Thunderdome. We shall see how CCP proceeds as it seems they have put a lot of planning and thought into this... They probably didn't put very much in at all actually - and that's the brilliant part. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015 T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346 LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
Nash MacAllister Anomalous Existence Low-Class 214	Posted - 2014.11.07 19:11:46 - [89] - Quote calaretu wrote: I would actually prefer if we were given no anwers but would have to discover it ourself. Like the original launch of wormholes This. It sure would be nice to have some actual mystery and plot rather than just a couple dozen people arguing about "facts" that are actually assumptions based on limited information at best.... *Yes, if you have to ask yourself the question, just assume we are watching you...*
Athanor Ruthoern United System's Commonwealth 15	Posted - 2014.11.07 19:17:43 - [90] - Quote I really hope Thera has 2 suns it would be cool.



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