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Charlie Nonoke
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:23:28 -
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It was excellent, but hardly the film of the year.
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Mizhir
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
69318
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:28:43 -
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Going to watch it tonight. I'm afraid that I have hyped it too much. Well, only time will tell.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6510
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:36:58 -
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i generally ignore the media so im hype free \o/
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
8240
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:40:09 -
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Mizhir wrote:Going to watch it tonight. I'm afraid that I have hyped it too much. Well, only time will tell.
MIZZY!!! Boop!
Also I want to see it.
I like Lego.
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Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
726
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:49:38 -
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Just came out of cinema. Didnt understand, have to watch again. |
Mizhir
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:51:45 -
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\o Tollen
Big Lynx wrote:Just came out of cinema. Didnt understand, have to watch again.
Thats a good sign.
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1319
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:55:14 -
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Dangit, I had hoped it would be crap so I'd have some more stuff to complain about and one thing less to spend money upon. -.-
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6510
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:55:22 -
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Mizhir wrote:\o Tollen Big Lynx wrote:Just came out of cinema. Didnt understand, have to watch again. Thats a good sign.
HA!
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Mizhir
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
69320
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Posted - 2014.11.07 23:58:32 -
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No offense Charlie. But did we watch the same movie? Now I understand why Big Lynx didn't fully get it. It is a movie with many aspects and it has completely blown my mind. It is a master piece.
However I don't think it is a movie for everyone. It takes a basic understanding of physics and a large chunk of space exploration childhood dream to fully get this movie. That being said. I have rarely been so emotionally touched by video media than I have from this. And on top of that is the epic work of Hans Zimmer. With the soundtrack from the movie still playing in my mind I have a huge urge to reach out for the stars.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1888
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Posted - 2014.11.08 00:12:21 -
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I'm not sure if you guys are talking about what I'm thinking you are. I've been watching Interstellar for about a year now. It's really good but it's not that new so I'm not sure what all the sudden hype is about.
Scott Manley is probably going to make the final episode in a month or two, and it'll be nice to see the end but sad to not look forward to the next episode anymore.
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Charlie Nonoke
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.11.08 01:02:46 -
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Mizhir wrote:No offense Charlie. But did we watch the same movie? Now I understand why Big Lynx didn't fully get it. It is a movie with many aspects and it has completely blown my mind. It is a master piece.
However I don't think it is a movie for everyone. It takes a basic understanding of physics and a large chunk of space exploration childhood dream to fully get this movie. That being said. I have rarely been so emotionally touched by video media than I have from this. And on top of that is the epic work of Hans Zimmer. With the soundtrack from the movie still playing in my mind I have a huge urge to reach out for the stars.
I fully understood the movie. I have studied Physics myself, and dedicated a lot of my time to Relativity, Special and General.
And every boy that ever existed dreamt of exploring space, to be an astronaut.
That being said, it doesn't take a physicist to fully understand the film, as the characters describe and explain it eloquently to the viewer. You don't need, as you put it, a basic understanding, just to know that gravity has effects on time, when the characters repeat it in layman's term again and again.
I wasn't impressed by the film. There were scenes which were touching, plus Zimmer did a very good job with the score. However, objectively speaking, that would be personal emotions dictating this was a masterpiece, rather than scoring the film as a whole.
We have different opinions, and I respect yours. |
Mizhir
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
69321
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Posted - 2014.11.08 01:06:05 -
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Charlie Nonoke wrote:Mizhir wrote:No offense Charlie. But did we watch the same movie? Now I understand why Big Lynx didn't fully get it. It is a movie with many aspects and it has completely blown my mind. It is a master piece.
However I don't think it is a movie for everyone. It takes a basic understanding of physics and a large chunk of space exploration childhood dream to fully get this movie. That being said. I have rarely been so emotionally touched by video media than I have from this. And on top of that is the epic work of Hans Zimmer. With the soundtrack from the movie still playing in my mind I have a huge urge to reach out for the stars. I fully understood the movie. I have studied Physics myself, and dedicated a lot of my time to Relativity, Special and General. And every boy that ever existed dreamt of exploring space, to be an astronaut. That being said, it doesn't take a physicist to fully understand the film, as the characters describe and explain it eloquently to the viewer. You don't need, as you put it, a basic understanding, just to know that gravity has effects on time, when the characters repeat it in layman's term again and again. I wasn't impressed by the film. There were scenes which were touching, plus Zimmer did a very good job with the score. However, objectively speaking, that would be personal emotions at its most fragile state dictating whether this was a masterpiece, rather than looking at all the aspects, and then rating it as a whole We have different opinions, and I respect yours.
My reply wasn't targeted at you specifically. I apologize if you understood it that way.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7423
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Posted - 2014.11.08 17:41:09 -
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I am going to be brutally honest, I have nothing good to say about this movie at all.
[SPOILERS AHEAD]
It is no coincidence that "Interstellar" looks similar to "Contact" based on Carl Sagan's novel of the same name. The project was hatched by "Contact" executive producer Lynda Obst and Kip Thorne, technical adviser for the film after Sagans passing. Jonathan Nolan wrote the manuscript, Steven Spielberg would direct, but it was Christopher Nolan, Jonathan's brother, who finally took the job.
The photography of Hoyte van Hoytemas, the visual effects and the result isn't too shabby, even if some of the animated space panoramas in this $165M movie looks like they have been taken from album covers from the '70s. The story is, however, a genuinely weak construction, built with embarrassing simplifications, drastic makeshift solutions, hocus pocus theories and a concoction of stolen swag from other movies.
The story takes place in a apocalyptic future, possibly the consequence of climate change but it is never revealed why. The only "explanation" given, is the speech by grandpa Donald about general materialism which also serves as the Ayn Rand inspired excuse to ditch the majority of humanity and focus on a small elite of noble survivors, whose future is either on new planets (Plan A) in different galaxies or on space stations (Plan B).
The sob story between father and daughter, the emotional foundation of Interstellar, has been copied multiple times from "Contact" - partly in Coops and his soon-to-be-space physicist daughter Murph and partly in professor Brand and his daughter/student. The shortcut to the universe goes through a wormhole that sits by Saturn, conveniently placed there by "higher powers" is taken from "2001" and the jovial super computers are no doubt happier counterparts to the psychotic HAL-9000.
It doesn't stop there though, the world record in unimaginativeness goes to the exploration of other worlds that quickly turns into a snooze fest, only matched by the buzz killing flirting between the two Star Trekkers Coop and Amelia. The final crashes into a banal resolution how the main character and the fragments of humanity, against all odds, survives thanks to a time paradox (based on Terminator) that tries to explain the emergence of the wormhole and a dopey happy ending, more suited for old fashioned novels that you find at the gas station than a modern scif-fi movie.
I want my three hours back.
Oh, don't even get me started on the physics.
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Axton Tomas
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.08 18:06:23 -
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People need to learn that every film made or book written derive their content from work made previous to them. There is no exception. No piece of work you love was wholly original - derivation is unavoidable.
Once you figure that out, you can stop trying to be a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex and just sit down and enjoy something.
Growing up also helps, but that's optional. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7423
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Posted - 2014.11.08 18:34:01 -
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Axton Tomas wrote:People need to learn that every film made or book written derive their content from work made previous to them. There is no exception. No piece of work you love was wholly original - derivation is unavoidable.
Once you figure that out, you can stop trying to be a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex and just sit down and enjoy something.
Growing up also helps, but that's optional.
Since most of your post seems directed at me, I'll address it as such. Correct me if I am wrong though.
It is true as you say, every film and book is derived from something previously and there is no exception to that. But I am not sure how my opinion of a movie that I really wanted to see disappoints me so much that turns me me into "a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex". Another example of a movie that I was really eager to see but turned out to be poo was Prometheus, that was better as a trailer than as a movie.
I am admittedly very jaded when it comes to stuff that is supposed to entertain me whilst wanting my money but I don't see anything wrong with having high standards.
Speaking of growing up, how about you post with your main?
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Axton Tomas
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.08 20:13:55 -
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Alpheias wrote:Axton Tomas wrote:People need to learn that every film made or book written derive their content from work made previous to them. There is no exception. No piece of work you love was wholly original - derivation is unavoidable.
Once you figure that out, you can stop trying to be a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex and just sit down and enjoy something.
Growing up also helps, but that's optional. Since most of your post seems directed at me, I'll address it as such. Correct me if I am wrong though. It is true as you say, every film and book is derived from something previously and there is no exception to that. But I am not sure how my opinion of a movie that I really wanted to see disappoints me so much that turns me me into "a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex". Another example of a movie that I was really eager to see but turned out to be poo was Prometheus, that was better as a trailer than as a movie. I am admittedly very jaded when it comes to stuff that is supposed to entertain me whilst wanting my money but I don't see anything wrong with having high standards. Speaking of growing up, how about you post with your main?
It was a general sentiment I have that was brought to the surface by your post. I have no issue with you in particular.
What bothers me is that people consider themselves as having 'high standards' rather than correctly seeing themselves as just being picky, hard to please, and like to imagine themselves as not one of the unwashed masses.
And I have no main. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.11.08 21:16:39 -
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My nerd of reference states that it's not a bad movie but it's very foreseable ("and now will happen this... and this guy will do that...", to the point of being boring sometimes, and all in all doesn't lives up to the expectations no matter the interest in liking it.
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Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
730
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Posted - 2014.11.09 06:32:29 -
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SPOILERS
Please explain:
The wh was placed by aliens? Afaik MC said (as he wascin the 5D bookshelf) that "they" are themselves.
Why the **** is he behind the bookshelf? And why is he rescued directly before cooper station in the end? Universe is 15b ly and he ejects from 5th dimension right to the doorstep of cooper station? That was cheap. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7423
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Posted - 2014.11.09 07:51:26 -
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Axton Tomas wrote:Alpheias wrote:Axton Tomas wrote:People need to learn that every film made or book written derive their content from work made previous to them. There is no exception. No piece of work you love was wholly original - derivation is unavoidable.
Once you figure that out, you can stop trying to be a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex and just sit down and enjoy something.
Growing up also helps, but that's optional. Since most of your post seems directed at me, I'll address it as such. Correct me if I am wrong though. It is true as you say, every film and book is derived from something previously and there is no exception to that. But I am not sure how my opinion of a movie that I really wanted to see disappoints me so much that turns me me into "a 2bitter4u critic with a superiority complex". Another example of a movie that I was really eager to see but turned out to be poo was Prometheus, that was better as a trailer than as a movie. I am admittedly very jaded when it comes to stuff that is supposed to entertain me whilst wanting my money but I don't see anything wrong with having high standards. Speaking of growing up, how about you post with your main? It was a general sentiment I have that was brought to the surface by your post. I have no issue with you in particular. What bothers me is that people consider themselves as having 'high standards' rather than correctly seeing themselves as just being picky, hard to please, and like to imagine themselves as not one of the unwashed masses. There's nothing wrong with disliking a film and saying why. It is another to couch yourself as having better taste, smarter preferences, and superior artistic knowledge than anyone who would like such a film. That is the attitude that irks me. But as I said, I have no issue with you in particular. What I am griping about is a very common attitude that can be seen regarding literature, film, music, cars - nearly everything. Just a pet peeve. And I have no main.
I never said anything about having a better taste, smarter preferences or a superior artistic knowledge, what I said was that "Interstellar" stole this and that from other movies in the worst manner possible that makes the previous works stand out as shining beacons in the night sky and from a director of Christopher Nolan's calibre, I don't think it is unfair to say that I expected better.
As for having high standards, it is about the matter that I want value for my money spent as a consumer. Call that having better taste, smarter preferences or a superior artistic knowledge if you want.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.11.09 09:10:12 -
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More reviews are in... from the look of them, it's a film that may appeal to some who never watched or read of any SF deeper than ST:TOS, but all in all it gets so many things so wrong and the story goes on so cheaply that it can't pass the test. It's a bad film that pretends to be deep but just steals SF cliches from "serious SF" and uses them poorly, and the scientific parts of it are godawful beyond suspension of disbelief, for no good reason.
Why do you need a physicist when your plot involves someone falling into a black hole without being disintegrated by radiation, stretched all over millions of kilometers of space and swallowed into oblivion, in that order?
What's worst is that the story and the storytelling are completely subpar even if the director wasn't Nolan.
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Titus Marrs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:17:50 -
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It's at least better than Gravity? Yes, the shots from space were spectacular. However, IMO, the story was very weak.
I'm hoping Interstellar has some hard sci fi aspects and better story to tell. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7423
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:43:29 -
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Titus Marrs wrote:It's at least better than Gravity? Yes, the shots from space were spectacular. However, IMO, the story was very weak.
I'm hoping Interstellar has some hard sci fi aspects and better story to tell.
Nope and nope. If you want hard sci-fi, I recommend Leviathan Wakes by James S. A. Corey.
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Titus Marrs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:59:50 -
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Alpheias wrote:Titus Marrs wrote:It's at least better than Gravity? Yes, the shots from space were spectacular. However, IMO, the story was very weak.
I'm hoping Interstellar has some hard sci fi aspects and better story to tell. Nope and nope. If you want hard sci-fi, I recommend Leviathan Wakes by James S. A. Corey.
I will try to remain optimistic before seeing this film later today 
My mind survived Ron D Moores' BSG series ending episode, so I'm well equipped to handle let downs. |
Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
86574
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:09:44 -
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Awesome, looks like one to avoid.
I cant remember the last sci-fi movie that I actually enjoyed watching. They all seem to be terrible now.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
754
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:40:28 -
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gf seen it yesterday she say gravity is better but that i should look it anyway so my hopes are not that my mind will be blown....will see it anyway today. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13826
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Posted - 2014.11.09 23:13:13 -
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Good film, well worth a watch. They somehow managed to make me care about a robotic rectangle with great sense of humour.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
754
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Posted - 2014.11.10 04:24:59 -
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Good one indeed . |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
679
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Posted - 2014.11.11 01:59:35 -
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I rather like the film, but i do get the strong suspicion that few people get the idea behind 'them' and the concept of the 5th dimension as presented in the movie. It explains a lot of things most people assume to be plot holes...
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
10727
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Posted - 2014.11.11 03:11:08 -
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Saw it this afternoon, 9/10. If you get the chance to see it on IMAX, pay the extra and do so, it's well worth it.
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Boom McCondor
30plus
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
79
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:58:42 -
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Three words: Big Hero 6.
Guess that two words and a number, but go see it anyway. Also, I liked the Ben Bova books for near future science-fiction. Mars, Mercury, The Rock Rats, etc. Maybe a little softer than "hard" sci-fi but still very plausible. |
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