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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.01 01:43:00 -
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I was thinking that maybe a feature could be introduced where 0.0 aliances could rename some of the systems that they have uncontested control over. Systems with alphanumeric names like PFP-GU are impossible to remember for many players (or maybe just me), and there are hundreds of them.
I was thinking that the aliance that controls the system could suggest a new name, and if CCP approves the name then that system could be permanantly changed to that new name. (even if a new aliance moves in, the name stays)
I don't know if this would work, or if the 0.0 players would even want this, but I thought I'd throw it out.
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codepic
Mithril Inc
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.01 01:58:00 -
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I was thinking of that too, but what about the guys who already have assets in 0.0 but been away from there, they remember their battleship was parked in AB-XYZ, they look in assets and can't find it because the system was renamed...???
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.01 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 01/09/2006 02:05:53
 Originally by: codepic
I was thinking of that too, but what about the guys who already have assets in 0.0 but been away from there, they remember their battleship was parked in AB-XYZ, they look in assets and can't find it because the system was renamed...???
Maybe keep the original name in parenthesis? Or send out an evemail to everyone with assets in the system.
Alphabet (AB-XYZ) - for example
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Reggie Stoneloader
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Posted - 2006.09.01 18:59:00 -
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That's more a problem with renaming stations. I had some assets in a station, then the system got conquered, and suddenly a whole new name appears on my assets list. It's weird, but not too problematic.
Renaming systems wouldn't be a huge problem, although it would be a little awkward for talking about it.
I'd like to be able to rename regions and constellations instead, so if you've got 25% sovreignty in a region and nobody else holds any systems there, your alliance can rename it.
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Kitchi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.01 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kitchi on 01/09/2006 19:05:37
And start a contest over who's the first to slip a foul word or derogatory comment into a system name first?
Nah, no thanks. Paris was still Paris when 'That Bad Man' took it over.
Edit: Yay for the filter/
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.01 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kitchi
And start a contest over who's the first to slip a foul word or derogatory comment into a system name first?
Nah, no thanks. Paris was still Paris when 'That Bad Man' took it over.
That's why I say any names would have to approved by CONCORD, and systems can only be renamed once.
You don't want a system to be renamed every time it changes hands like Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul, but rather just take it away from the alphabet soup names.
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The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
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Posted - 2006.09.01 20:07:00 -
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@Original idea, i'd want to ask him how he solves the bm naming :)
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.09.01 20:27:00 -
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system naming would be nice tbh. it would be good if you could change the name if you had Sov of the system, but when you lost Sov the system name reverted back to it's original.
i will direct this post to the right people (altho they have probably read it) as i really do like the idea
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Cmdr Sy
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.09.02 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
system naming would be nice tbh. it would be good if you could change the name if you had Sov of the system, but when you lost Sov the system name reverted back to it's original.
i will direct this post to the right people (altho they have probably read it) as i really do like the idea
To be honest, that would mean such frequent name changes during wartime, finding your way around would quickly become intensely irritating.
Plus, the day names like Y5J-EU really do mean something, and carry a sense of home, is the day a newbie has finally made it in 0.0. On an emotional level, that's a real reward. So please let's keep all the M-MD3B stuff, let's keep the worlds of Empire and 0.0 distinct in naming convention, and let those who wish to understand, work their way to that understanding.
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Ellaine TashMurkon
MetaForge
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.02 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ellaine TashMurkon on 02/09/2006 05:12:52
Keep name first 6 signs, so search, geography and stuff still works. After a year or so, renaming level 2 and better search perhaps (search not pnly beginning of system name).
Eg;
Normal;
UQ-VWD
When You get sov;
UQ-VWD 'Crossroads of Doom'
After a year;
Crosroads of Doom (UQ-VWD)
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Clais Monaige
Prodigy Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.02 18:44:00 -
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I really like the idea, especially the way in the last post.
Renaming should be a unique procedure, so wars and changing allies wouldn't mess it up.
(i really, really hate that naming salat as it's now in 0.0 - it's really annoying and hard to remember, or at least by me).
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Stilgar Fifrawi
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Posted - 2006.09.02 19:42:00 -
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Good idea, but the systems would still have to have a fixed and unique name so people can still recognise that system even once it changes hands.
Great idea using the [0.0 name] '{custome name}' convention.
Maybe this could be done with the stations too as people find it amusing to change station names every 3 minutes, which means that I have no idea where my jump clones or assets are located anymore....even after a week of living in 0.0
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emepror
Gallente
Unity Vanguard
Serenus Letum
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Posted - 2006.09.02 22:23:00 -
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you could also charge like 500mill to change the name so it isnt always happening even if 500mill is easy for an alliance
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.02 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: emepror
you could also charge like 500mill to change the name so it isnt always happening even if 500mill is easy for an alliance
I'd prefer in the neighbourhood of 5 billion.
0.0 alliances with outposts and whatnot should be able to afford that, but only use it in certain systems (IE: outpost systems)
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Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 00:46:00 -
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oehw... naming your system... ^_^
i'll make sure i get Sov in one of the 0.0 systems... and name it "Sov's Home" ^_^
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:10:00 -
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I would say, no, to this idea. Simply becuase you would end up with the worst names in the world. For examples, just look at the names of outposts.
You would end up with things like "Smoske was here" or "Drop By for a McDonalds" as system names, which would ruin every vague idea of game immersion.
If the names had to passed through CCP in a similar way to the Alliance logo's that would help it to a certain extent.
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.04 16:15:00 -
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That's why I think CCP should have to give their stamp of approval to any new system names, and establish rules for naming. You can't put the name of an individual player or the name of an opposing alliance or corp.
"Goon Prime" would be acceptable but, "Tarquin Tarquinius's Solar System" or "BoB R TEH NOOBZ" wouldn't be.
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Caldari
KHM Corporation
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.05 20:53:00 -
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what about if it had to be your corps headquarters, your alliance had to have sov. and it took 5 days to show up? (like sov) Keep the old names as well so you can use both to nav there, but limit the number of renamed systems by making it hq only.
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Karash Amerius
Amarr
O.E.C
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:38:00 -
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There would have to be a time period of sov before renaming could take place I would think...say something like 1 or 2 months.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.05 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius
That's why I think CCP should have to give their stamp of approval to any new system names, and establish rules for naming. You can't put the name of an individual player or the name of an opposing alliance or corp.
"Goon Prime" would be acceptable but, "Tarquin Tarquinius's Solar System" or "BoB R TEH NOOBZ" wouldn't be.
I wonder if renaming NOL-M9 "San Antonio" would get through. 
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Tarquin Tarquinius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:09:00 -
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Naming should also probably be limited to systems with stations in them.
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The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
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Blind Man
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.06 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ellaine TashMurkon
Edited by: Ellaine TashMurkon on 02/09/2006 05:12:52
Keep name first 6 signs, so search, geography and stuff still works. After a year or so, renaming level 2 and better search perhaps (search not pnly beginning of system name).
Eg;
Normal;
UQ-VWD
When You get sov;
UQ-VWD 'Crossroads of Doom'
After a year;
Crosroads of Doom (UQ-VWD)
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Wen Jaibao
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.06 01:47:00 -
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O.o
I posted something like this a while ago. Kudos for getting it noticed with a dev post though.
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Das Yad
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.06 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
system naming would be nice tbh. it would be good if you could change the name if you had Sov of the system, but when you lost Sov the system name reverted back to it's original.
i will direct this post to the right people (altho they have probably read it) as i really do like the idea
more like "quick theres a big fleet incoming to blow up our x y or z rename the system so they loose the waypoint! 
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Admiral S3
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:51:00 -
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Not a bad idea.
Honestly, I like it alot... Personally I think it should be able to be named after a player, corp or alliance... (IE Player's Last Stand, Corp's Defeat, or Alliances final Battle.) If the alliance held sov and of course some corp had an outpost present there and an HQ. This way alliances could more easily mark where important events occured in thier space. Maybe they wish to honor thier foe, even though they were defeated. Personally if I was the last standing defense between my alliances death and the enemy, leading the last remenants of the defense forces, I would be very thankful for which ever alliance for marking my last battle, or my corps final stand, or the alliance last attempt to hold thier ground, even if it said was named after the enemy alliance in some way mocking me. Like "Enemy Alliances Easiest Victory ever".
Of course I think it should be kept to a max of 2 maybe 3 short words, and Concord (read as CCP) should have to put thier stamp of approval on it, nothing that was outright slander, and no slang words, or curses in languages yet to be identified, LOL.
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Tsavong Lah
Caldari
Solar Storm
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:26:00 -
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notify: Autopilot jumping to 0-RLY
notify: Autopilot jumping to Y4-RLY
notify: Autopilot jumping to NO-W41
notify: Autopilot jumping to PWN-3D
notify: Autopilot jumping to Omgomgkeeptehn00bsoutkthxbye!
They'd have to make it so name changed take effect at downtime I guess, so database links can get updated.. Sounds fun tho, hehe
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Ayms
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:58:00 -
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CCP didn't name every system ny hand, I hope. They could use the generator that they used to create the system names the first time. Or remake one, and then let an alliance rename from the list, one change and it would be permenent. Maybe tie it into the larger alliance space claiming changes, and charge to register it with Concord.
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Zarch AlDain
Friends of Everyone
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ayms
CCP didn't name every system ny hand, I hope. They could use the generator that they used to create the system names the first time. Or remake one, and then let an alliance rename from the list, one change and it would be permenent. Maybe tie it into the larger alliance space claiming changes, and charge to register it with Concord.
Permenant changes are bad and wrong - 0.0 space changes hands a lot and new people should be able to change it even if someone else named it before.
I think the suggestion earlier was excellent...where you have to rename it and keep it on that new name for 6 months and then the name becomes permanent - until someone else renames it and holds it on the new name for 6 months again.
Zarch AlDain
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Jon Anser
Gallente
Cirrius Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.17 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jon Anser on 17/10/2006 04:23:12
 Yes!!!
 /me secertly wishes to rename a system "Satan's Arse Hole"
@$%# sig nerfing (origional)
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Hesod Adee
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Posted - 2006.10.17 06:16:00 -
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How this could be done:
While an alliance holds soverngity over a system they can chose to apply for the system to have its name changed (this may involve a fee). This will start a timer (I'm not sure how long this timer should be, but a month minimum), when the timer ends the system gets that name.
If the system changes hands the timer will keep ticking down with the name the previous alliance chose, but at any time the alliance holding the system can cancel the request. Some method to make sure they really want to do this would be good, maybe an "are you sure" question that you can't answer yes to till at least 24 hours after first saying cancel. Once the request is canceled then they move back to the first step.
Along with the requested name will be a method for the leaders of the holding alliance to add their comments about the name. These comments will be viewable by members of whichever alliance holds the system so they can see why the previous alliance wanted that name (say a major battle took part there). These comments will also include weather CCP have approved the name yet or not, if CCP do not like then the request will get cancled instantly.
Once the name has CCP approval and the timer elapses then the system will have its name displayed as old name (new name) for about a week and people will be notified about the upcomming name-change (I'm not sure who should be notified). Then the holding alliance will no longer be able to cancel the process and its name will become the new name.
If this causes too much trouble with alliances rushing in at the last minute to prevent a name change it could be changed that once the name becomes old name (new name) it is too late to cancel the change.
With this method the only ways for a system to get its name changed is to eaither have it stay in the hands of one alliance for the timers duration, or for all the alliances that hold it during the timer to agree on the requested name.
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