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mkint 401	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:06:00 - [31] - Quote Also note that this expansion will make pi less viable and even more soul crushing. Massive buffs to suicide ganking. Nullsec even more tightly controlled by ccp rmt friends. Pos ownership for small entities being massively nerfed including filling up every public manufacturing slot in the game. The good stuff is just sizzle. The bad stuff is really really bad. And all gameplay changes being among the bad.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 67	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:08:00 - [32] - Quote I agree with Tippia and Jade on most points. Slade
Seleia O'Sinnor Arklight Project Fade 2 Black 9	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:12:00 - [33] - Quote I don't think Crucible will be the big hit. I really really like the many small things to be improved and some new bling bling tier 3 BCs. The new nebuales are pretty, and really improve the immersion. However there are still hundreds of annoyences which should be fixed, and I wonder if CCP will go for another big content patch for the summer expansion, leaving the road to make Eve a better game, instead introducing more monocles. Especially the new player owned custom offices and the fuel blocks for POSs are, well in my opinion, useless. I lold, it doesn't make fueling POSs much easier, you still have to manufacture those fuel blocks and that introcuces an extra step. Sure you can easily see how many hours the pos will last by the count of fuel blocks in the hanger, I still find the fuel tab in pos management more convenient, as expresses duration in days not in hours only. In addition to that fuel consumption and total maintenance of POSs is increased now that utilization of CPU and PG is always at 100%. The new custom offices just add additional cost to players doing PI, especially in wormholes. There's not grace period as far as I understand the new system. So, again, some people fighting over things in the non hisec systems, which is already the case, but does it really add to the game? CCP should have sold this by improving the PI UI, which is still painful to use(Ever used the duration slider?). EDIT: Apocrypha was a great expansion. Best thing I've seen in years!
Handsome Hussein 132	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:16:00 - [34] - Quote From my POV Crucible is the best expansion ever (even if it's not on TQ yet). But then, I've only experienced one expansion so far, and I wouldn't even call it an expansion; did nothing for the game. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.

CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 1099	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:23:00 - [35] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque. It's true, we said that. But a lot of things have happened since that was stated. Hilmar's acknowledgement that we were on the wrong path, the restructuring of the company and the new focus on EVE to name a few. Since then we scrambled and in slightly less than two months we made what's probably the second largest expansion for EVE ever, and it's all about spaceships. I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer

Denidil The Graduates Morsus Mihi 216	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:30:00 - [36] - Quote shackdavid wrote: Quote: Patch Notes wrote: Time Dilation Due to the dangerous nature of altering the fabric of spacetime in such ways, the feature will be turned on at a slightly later date. Crucible has already failed those of us waiting for the lag fix, if a date had been specified in a with a reasonable time period then I would not have an issue with this delay. that note in the patch notes probably means they did some lag reducing optimizations and they want to see how they perform before they turn on TD. they'll probably turn on TD in two or three weeks. keep your ******* panties on. MM Bombers, Best Bombers
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 30	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:33:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE I like this and agree with it. I've been holding off on too much praise until I actually see the expansion, but the way CCP has been dealing with issues lately just isn't the same. Fixing small things 0_o what happened to the old CCP and where did you hide all the bodies?! It seems like there has been a 180 degree change in direction, and I'm more excited than ever to see what this means for the future. Again, trying to hold off on praise until I see tangible results, but I hope this effort continues, I'm loving whats happening so far.
The Crimson Invaider Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 17	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:33:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque. It's true, we said that. But a lot of things have happened since that was stated. Hilmar's acknowledgement that we were on the wrong path, the restructuring of the company and the new focus on EVE to name a few. Since then we scrambled and in slightly less than two months we made what's probably the second largest expansion for EVE ever, and it's all about spaceships. I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE At fanfest will there be a CCP guard throwing competition?
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 500	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:35:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque. It's true, we said that. But a lot of things have happened since that was stated. Hilmar's acknowledgement that we were on the wrong path, the restructuring of the company and the new focus on EVE to name a few. Since then we scrambled and in slightly less than two months we made what's probably the second largest expansion for EVE ever, and it's all about spaceships. I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE Can I hug your brain for a little while. Just wrap my arms around it an dream. ...please
Neok Skywalker Galactic Defence Consortium United Pod Service 0	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:36:00 - [40] - Quote I am pretty sure after this expansion there will be a lot of imbalances. So again what will come next is nerfing this and that. Mostly for PI and for the new ships which are overpowered imho and make other ships useless. Balance is most important. And its not easy to do that. You can do it only with small steps. And the next expansion will be a huge step which for sure will inbalance a lot. And taking back chocolate from players always isnt fun. Not to mention the frustration of Mothership pilots. They will hate this expansion.
mkint 401	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:44:00 - [41] - Quote Neok Skywalker wrote: I am pretty sure after this expansion there will be a lot of imbalances. So again what will come next is nerfing this and that. Mostly for PI and for the new ships which are overpowered imho and make other ships useless. Balance is most important. And its not easy to do that. You can do it only with small steps. And the next expansion will be a huge step which for sure will inbalance a lot. And taking back chocolate from players always isnt fun. Not to mention the frustration of Mothership pilots. They will hate this expansion. Good. They've been ruining eve for long enough.
Tore Vest Vikinghall 97	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:49:00 - [42] - Quote mkint wrote: Good. They've been ruining eve for long enough.
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:50:00 - [43] - Quote So what's this PI nerf that ppl are talking about? I just saw this and it made me happy : We have boosted the bandwidth of links to be 10 times bigger to deal with the hassle of constantly upgrading them.
Tear Miner Republic University Minmatar Republic 59	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:51:00 - [44] - Quote A lot of this thread continually confirms that the majority of Eve forum poasters are whiney spoiled brats or trolls or most likely both. It's plainly obvious to those who aren't trolling or aren't so disconnected from reality, that CCP has done a 180 on Eve in the right direction. Iteration is a good thing, you guys should try playing every aspect of Eve before you cry about not enough new features. Run a corp or run multiple POS's, or do both, you'll go insane by the amount of tedium involved, but CCP is starting to make headway in that direction, as well as many others, that signals to me how srs they are about Eve. There's expansions worth of iteration left to do in Eve, and it's finally happening. For less than two months of work, from what I've seen on SiSi, is nothing short of impressive, and this has been mentioned quietly before in the thread: think of all the awesomeness they can get into a proper cycle of development. Until then, keep Glenn Becking it up here on the forums with your crybaby, rabble rousing posts.
Rattus Norwegius 2	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:52:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE Yeah, me too. Assuming you don't delete too many important files on my computer, or make graphics cards rip themselves out of their sockets and run off in fear, this patch promises to be a greater improvement to EVE than any I have experienced, Apocrypha included. It might not introduce that much new stuff to play with, but it makes A LOT! of the old stuff less annoying and more fun. \o/ And lets face it, EVE really needed getting its pipes flushed, oil changed and pixel rust scrubbed. Lots of new and not-so-new players were less than impressed by the bugs, inconsistencies, flaws and "Huh!-moments" they encountered, and then being met by "LOL! You must be new here!" by all the older players when wondering if CCP was going to fix, a non-trivial amount of them left. This expansion won't attract hordes of new shiny-eyed players, but it will make a difference in making more players stay. And less bitter older players will also make new players feel slightly more welcome. Possibly. Also, as a Gallente player, suddenly a whole new world of midslots opens up, that can be used for something else than cap recharge..
mkint 401	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:55:00 - [46] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: So what's this PI nerf that ppl are talking about? I just saw this and it made me happy : We have boosted the bandwidth of links to be 10 times bigger to deal with the hassle of constantly upgrading them. Pocos are turning all lowsec pi unviable all wspace pi impractical and all nullsec pi alliance approved only. And all highsec pi more expensive.
Alexandros Balfros Liberty Rogues 7	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:55:00 - [47] - Quote Sadly not the best expansion ever, as a missile user this game adds nothing new for me to use :(
DeLaBu FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance 12	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:57:00 - [48] - Quote I think this will be the most loved non-expansion ever. I haven't seen so many little things bring so much joy to so many in so little time! To be fair, just because we can't point to one major point of expansion, doesn't make all the small but significant expansionlets count up to nothing! I would be very happy if CCP switches from two major expansions a year, to one major and one papercuts expansion every year. Expand, enhance, Expand, enhance....
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2011.11.28 16:58:00 - [49] - Quote mkint wrote: J3ssica Alba wrote: So what's this PI nerf that ppl are talking about? I just saw this and it made me happy : We have boosted the bandwidth of links to be 10 times bigger to deal with the hassle of constantly upgrading them. Pocos are turning all lowsec pi unviable all wspace pi impractical and all nullsec pi alliance approved only. And all highsec pi more expensive. I see. Well I only do hi-sec PI so POCOs don't affect me. Then again if less people in lo-sec do PI, my hi-sec PI becomes more profitable because of higher demand :)
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 109	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:05:00 - [50] - Quote The new bling is cool, to be sure. However, running my little highsec manufacturing gig just got more expensive (because of PI), and adding an extra step into feuling my POS is a bit annoying (although I can understand how this makes life easier for the bigtime operators). Lowsec PI seems like a waste of time now as well, and that used to be a fun minigame dodging pirates. Maybe the new shiny stuff will offset these annoyances somewhat.
JagerJake Rapalje Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 0	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:06:00 - [51] - Quote Chribba wrote: RMR. Will tomorrow change that...? /c indeed RMR then apocrappa. tomorrow is a expansion of the papercuts solving kind which is also very nice but no drastic changes im my view
mkint 401	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:08:00 - [52] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: mkint wrote: J3ssica Alba wrote: So what's this PI nerf that ppl are talking about? I just saw this and it made me happy : We have boosted the bandwidth of links to be 10 times bigger to deal with the hassle of constantly upgrading them. Pocos are turning all lowsec pi unviable all wspace pi impractical and all nullsec pi alliance approved only. And all highsec pi more expensive. I see. Well I only do hi-sec PI so POCOs don't affect me. Then again if less people in lo-sec do PI, my hi-sec PI becomes more profitable because of higher demand :) Or your planets get overcrowded by people stepping in to meet the supply shortages. And don't forget it will cost you twice as much to do as before. No one benefits from these changes except griefers and dusters (also griefers.)
Vincent Gaines 175	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:10:00 - [53] - Quote Alexandros Balfros wrote: Sadly not the best expansion ever, as a missile user this game adds nothing new for me to use :( Your tears are delicious.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 221	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:11:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Destiny Corrupted wrote: Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque. It's true, we said that. But a lot of things have happened since that was stated. Hilmar's acknowledgement that we were on the wrong path, the restructuring of the company and the new focus on EVE to name a few. Since then we scrambled and in slightly less than two months we made what's probably the second largest expansion for EVE ever, and it's all about spaceships. I can't and won't promise anything about what we'll do next, but things have changed big time, we have massive momentum behind us, and I for one am genuinely excited about the future of EVE great to hear this. i hope you guys get around to putting an end to Winmatar and Drake online. im tired of seeing just Canes and Drakes on my overview/kb. a good step would be to slightly nerf those ships, and buff rails to something usable. right now, only laserboats are balanced in by opinion.
Tear Miner Republic University Minmatar Republic 59	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:11:00 - [55] - Quote Vincent Gaines wrote: Alexandros Balfros wrote: Sadly not the best expansion ever, as a missile user this game adds nothing new for me to use :( Your tears are delicious. You should know, Morsus Mihi drake blobs blot out the sun.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 280	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:17:00 - [56] - Quote A lot of stuff remains to be done, some that was intended to be on crucible (hybrids rebalance) couldn't be done properly in the time frame but will be looked at continuously until is satisfying: said Mr CCP Tallest. There's so much work done, almost everything players ask for months or years, new stuff, improvements of all kinds, needed downgrading Super pownmobiles to Super ships to train for, awesome nebulas, engine trails, cyno effects, warp tunnel, stars and I could continue for a long while. Yes I do think it's an awesome expansion overall. Best of all, better than all the stuff we had improved, changed, added whatsoever, Dev's are now more present with us than I've ever seen them and this thing here in my eyes is extremely important for everyone from players to dev's and by extent the company. I'm still hungry about my hybrids stuff (rabble) but I'm very happy about all the stuff I've tested on SISI (except hybrids: rabble again) I just can't wait to see all those that couldn't be there have such fun on TQ has I did on SISI.
Jack Sparroxx TURN LEFT 3	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:35:00 - [57] - Quote Handsome *** wrote: From my POV Crucible is the best expansion ever (even if it's not on TQ yet). But then, I've only experienced one expansion so far, and I wouldn't even call it an expansion; did nothing for the game. Lol.. yea if captains closet is your only referce point, then crusibla is def the most awsome expansion EVER in the history of all MMO's.

CCP Veritas C C P C C P Alliance 195	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:54:00 - [58] - Quote shackdavid wrote: Quote: Patch Notes wrote: Time Dilation Due to the dangerous nature of altering the fabric of spacetime in such ways, the feature will be turned on at a slightly later date. Crucible has already failed those of us waiting for the lag fix, if a date had been specified in a with a reasonable time period then I would not have an issue with this delay. It's going to be like a week or so. It's a rather fundamental shift to how the game runs, so turning it on at the same time we release a bunch of other things makes diagnosing any problems extremely difficult because you don't know what to blame. As soon as the release is in a reasonably stable state, I will be deploying Time Dilation. No one in this world wants it on more than I do, guarantee you that. CCP Veritas - Senior Programmer - EVE Software

DeLaBu FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance 12	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:58:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Veritas wrote: shackdavid wrote: Quote: Patch Notes wrote: Time Dilation Due to the dangerous nature of altering the fabric of spacetime in such ways, the feature will be turned on at a slightly later date. Crucible has already failed those of us waiting for the lag fix, if a date had been specified in a with a reasonable time period then I would not have an issue with this delay. It's going to be like a week or so. It's a rather fundamental shift to how the game runs, so turning it on at the same time we release a bunch of other things makes diagnosing any problems extremely difficult because you don't know what to blame. As soon as the release is in a reasonably stable state, I will be deploying Time Dilation. No one in this world wants it on more than I do, guarantee you that. I think many players agree. Maybe delay the patch for a week and rather give us that tomorrow? /ducks
Serial Chi Dust Bunnies 514 47	Posted - 2011.11.28 17:59:00 - [60] - Quote i dont think its the best expansion but its still a good one. if you read the patch notes carefully, you can see they fixed A LOT of ANNOYING ass crap. i look forward to the expansion going live.

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