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andoni cane Caldari Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:48:00 - [1] i have heard about them but i dont see anything about them in any of the markets where are they?
Linerra Tedora Amarr Criss Cross	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:51:00 - [2] because they are so hugely expensive and difficult to build... only a few are rumoured to have been build by players so far, and you will probably never see one on the market... they will be by order only... EvE-CCG Spoiler Database
Mothmar Friedsquid	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:52:00 - [3] Originally by: Linerra Tedora because they are so hugely expensive and difficult to build... only a few are rumoured to have been build by players so far, and you will probably never see one on the market... they will be by order only... I can't imagine one being commercially built. It takes 119 FULL LOADS in an Obelisk just to get the minerals to the station to build one... Mothmar Friedsquid. Because SWG sucked and EVE doesn't require my entire life. Recruit me if you're part of a huge guild that rocks and is going to build a titan someday.
pr013ct 0v3rk1ll Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:33:00 - [4] it was rmored that the first one was built a couple months after it came out in the patch. however when it was made and the driver could drive it, the corp members turned on him and destroyed the ship, they destroyed it cuz supposedly the guy threatend to leave with the mother ship, and since he was the only one that could fly it they killed the ship and his pod. another rumor was one was in the making but the corp decided not to build and it was dissasembled.. remember these r rumors i hear flying about. -=~PO~=- Sig dimensions must be less than 400Wx120H and no more than 24000 bytes. Mail [email protected] with any questions - Cathath
Kitchi Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:37:00 - [5] Same reason you don't see Super Tankers for sale down at the fishing pond. 1) They cost 100s of billions of isk in terms of bluebrint costs and materials 2) They cannot be flown in anything other than 0.0 space 3) Maybe 20-30 people can currently train the skill to fly the thing which costs 40 bill isk by itself. --------------------- "Somebody sent us up the bomb" "We get signal" "What" "Main screen turn on" "5m or i pod u, lol" "What you say" "wtf omg lag"
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:37:00 - [6] Hugely expensive, embarrassingly vulnerable, probably bugged. Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected])
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.09.01 19:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Kitchi 3) Maybe 20-30 people can currently train the skill to fly the thing which costs 40 bill isk by itself. There's a red face when you forget to update your clone.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:01:00 - [8] Originally by: inSpirAcy Originally by: Kitchi 3) Maybe 20-30 people can currently train the skill to fly the thing which costs 40 bill isk by itself. There's a red face when you forget to update your clone. Also, you'll never see them on the market. They cannot dock with a station, and must remain in space. They are built at a POS in a system which your alliance holds sovreignity over. The same is true with motherships. --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you.
digitalwanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:23:00 - [9] So the rumors that BOB had more than 1 under construction,going as far back as the month of march this year,was nothing but BS right?.... I mean if it were true,players would have seen it in action by now,since 5 months have passed since the rumors started...
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:27:00 - [10] Originally by: digitalwanderer So the rumors that BOB had more than 1 under construction,going as far back as the month of march this year,was nothing but BS right?.... I mean if it were true,players would have seen it in action by now,since 5 months have passed since the rumors started... No. Its entierly possible they have one. ASCN supposedly have 3. --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you.
Mothmar Friedsquid	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Kitchi Same reason you don't see Super Tankers for sale down at the fishing pond. 1) They cost 100s of billions of isk in terms of bluebrint costs and materials My count on current blueprint + material cost on an Erebus is approximately 109B isk for the ship & ship blueprint plus approximately 15B for equipping it w/ Captial schtuff.... This is at market prices for the ores involved. Add 10-20% for bulk, and it's still doable. Originally by: Kitchi 3) Maybe 20-30 people can currently train the skill to fly the thing which costs 40 bill isk by itself. I would be surprised if that number was as low as you think it is. Overall, I'm surprised that there isn't one in the game yet. The dude that scammed everyone has approximately four times what it would cost to build one. It's more about the scale of the mineral collection effort than the price of the minerals involved. Mothmar Friedsquid. Because SWG sucked and EVE doesn't require my entire life. Recruit me if you're part of a huge guild that rocks and is going to build a titan someday.
Emperor D'Hoffryn Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:40:00 - [12] Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:45:06 Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:43:43 exactly, its not cost, but logistics that slow it down. You have to get those mins to a POS. Freighters need not apply. best is freighter it to outpost in same system, then hauler move it to the POS. thats alot of loads. some math: lvl4 freighter = 900,000m3 for obelisk * 119 loads = 107,100,000m3 say average hauler is 25,000m3 big (mix of iteron mk5s and others) 4284 hauler runs to the pos. lets say 5 minutes per trip (load, undock, warp and arrive with perfect insta, drop off ore into POS, align and warp back, perfect insta dock) 14.875 DAYS of straight hauling. Ill get right on that. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.09.01 20:41:00 - [13] No titans because no one needs one yet. Like one of the above posters said though - they're probably bugged too. --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
Mothmar Friedsquid	Posted - 2006.09.01 21:57:00 - [14] Edited by: Mothmar Friedsquid on 01/09/2006 22:02:13 Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:45:06 Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:43:43 exactly, its not cost, but logistics that slow it down. You have to get those mins to a POS. Freighters need not apply. best is freighter it to outpost in same system, then hauler move it to the POS. thats alot of loads. some math: lvl4 freighter = 900,000m3 for obelisk * 119 loads = 107,100,000m3 say average hauler is 25,000m3 big (mix of iteron mk5s and others) 4284 hauler runs to the pos. lets say 5 minutes per trip (load, undock, warp and arrive with perfect insta, drop off ore into POS, align and warp back, perfect insta dock) 14.875 DAYS of straight hauling. Ill get right on that. Ah. My number was high for total # of hauls. Forgot about the 20% bonus to freighter cargo space. The total amount of mineral haul space is, before fittings, 45,578,110. I was assuming 750,000 m^3. This reduces your overall number by 50%; meaning it's only 7 or 8 days of hauling. The mining would take a long time.... Especially because you need to gather 3.387B trit in 0.0 space. Sound like fun? Oh, and this all assumes PERFECT PE. Altogether, quite a lame task to approach, and requiring a lot of group stuff. I haven't looked at ferrying around the capital components once assembled; I'll check that out, they might be much more managable once manufactured. Mothmar Friedsquid. Because SWG sucked and EVE doesn't require my entire life. Recruit me if you're part of a huge guild that rocks and is going to build a titan someday.
I M'Aspy	Posted - 2006.09.01 22:08:00 - [15] The thing about Titans is that once a pilot takes command he's pretty much stuck. You can't dock at stations and you don't really want to be ejecting to swap command with another pilot!!! Considering their build cost, can you really trust that pilot not to gtf a soon as you put him in charge of it?
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 00:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:45:06 Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 01/09/2006 20:43:43 exactly, its not cost, but logistics that slow it down. You have to get those mins to a POS. Freighters need not apply. best is freighter it to outpost in same system, then hauler move it to the POS. thats alot of loads. some math: lvl4 freighter = 900,000m3 for obelisk * 119 loads = 107,100,000m3 say average hauler is 25,000m3 big (mix of iteron mk5s and others) 4284 hauler runs to the pos. lets say 5 minutes per trip (load, undock, warp and arrive with perfect insta, drop off ore into POS, align and warp back, perfect insta dock) 14.875 DAYS of straight hauling. Ill get right on that. Why on earth would there be one person doing all the hauling? Think bigger, get a corp to run all the minerals from the Outpost to the POS as a corp op. 100 People will make light work of that while chattering away on TS. ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
Patch Esquire	Posted - 2006.09.02 01:34:00 - [17] The other reason that you don't see any is usefulness vs cost. To put it simply, if you just speant a month of solid gaming, 125 billion isk or so, and a whole lot of blood sweat and tears building the biggest, slowest, most vulnerable ship in the game (with no where to hide it, besides logging off in it, either) are you really going to want to fly it into an enemy held station system? Most people who buy 1.5bn isk faction ships barely ever leave station in them, let alone fly them into battle as (inevitably) the most primary target ever to undock in EVE history. Also, whats the point of them? I mean sure, awesome firepower, yadda yadda yadda, but theres little useful you can do in one that you cant do in a veritable fleet of other Capital ships worth 1/10th of the cost.
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.02 01:43:00 - [18] After running into them a couple of times on the test server I hope they never take the battlefield.
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.02 02:00:00 - [19] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: digitalwanderer So the rumors that BOB had more than 1 under construction,going as far back as the month of march this year,was nothing but BS right?.... I mean if it were true,players would have seen it in action by now,since 5 months have passed since the rumors started... No. Its entierly possible they have one. ASCN supposedly have 3. I hear a different BoB/ASCN titan rumor every few months. The last one I heard was that BoB finished one and had two more in the oven. Of course, that was just a rumor.
6Bagheera9 Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.02 02:10:00 - [20] IIRC they can't use a siege module and despite their HP would fare rather poorly vs POS guns.
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 02:12:00 - [21] Originally by: 6Bagheera9 IIRC they can't use a siege module and despite their HP would fare rather poorly vs POS guns. ...Titans arent made for POS assaults. Why would you ever stick em in front of a POS's guns? ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
hangnoose Caldari Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.09.02 02:16:00 - [22] Originally by: I M'Aspy The thing about Titans is that once a pilot takes command he's pretty much stuck. You can't dock at stations and you don't really want to be ejecting to swap command with another pilot!!! Considering their build cost, can you really trust that pilot not to gtf a soon as you put him in charge of it? I don't believe you can board a ship inless you have the correct skills for. Worst that oculd happen is it goes pop. Also there is such a thing as a capital ship maintance bay. You stick it on a POS and you can put your capital ships in there.
Xandria Bogard Caldari Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.09.02 02:34:00 - [23] I would love to have one - but then it is going to have to be a Corp ship as I do not want to be stuck in it 24/7 - I can see the only use is in HUGE fleet battles - used for settling worlds and if the NPC ever start using Dreads and carriers. OHOH - ok when the China cluster is joined to our cluster - then there is going to be a huge war - the war of all wars will take place - with those on or near the front lines to deploy battle groups and to 'hold the line. I can see a use for then, maybe S00NÖer than we think. My remarks are mine own ~ REMEMBER To Wear Foil HAT Regards, BogardÖ
6Bagheera9 Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.09.02 16:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: 6Bagheera9 IIRC they can't use a siege module and despite their HP would fare rather poorly vs POS guns. ...Titans arent made for POS assaults. Why would you ever stick em in front of a POS's guns? Well then what else are you going to use them for, the weapons can't be very effective againist BSs without alot of painting/webbing (otherwise we would see more dreads in fleet actions too). But the main issue is the tank, it has more hit points but it can't rep nearly as well as a dread in siege mode. These ships are basically still uder development.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.02 18:08:00 - [25] Originally by: 6Bagheera9 Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: 6Bagheera9 IIRC they can't use a siege module and despite their HP would fare rather poorly vs POS guns. ...Titans arent made for POS assaults. Why would you ever stick em in front of a POS's guns? Well then what else are you going to use them for, the weapons can't be very effective againist BSs without alot of painting/webbing (otherwise we would see more dreads in fleet actions too). But the main issue is the tank, it has more hit points but it can't rep nearly as well as a dread in siege mode. These ships are basically still uder development. Jump Drive Freightor. :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Saria Mysdrial Amarr Research Associates	Posted - 2006.09.02 20:59:00 - [26] I could be crazy here, but... Don't titans have jump PORTAL generators? Doesn't that mean that all ships in gang with them jump or somesuch? So, one Titan, and 40 freighters, jumping around 0.0 to move stuff up to empire...sounds pretty useful to me..
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Saria Mysdrial I could be crazy here, but... Don't titans have jump PORTAL generators? Doesn't that mean that all ships in gang with them jump or somesuch? So, one Titan, and 40 freighters, jumping around 0.0 to move stuff up to empire...sounds pretty useful to me.. It means that the Titan can act as an ad-hoc stargate. With 1.5 AU range. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
FFGR Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:10:00 - [28] They also provide the gang with a Cap Recharge, Armor, Shield or Sig Radius Reduction bonuses depending on the race of the titan _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:13:00 - [29] Originally by: Saria Mysdrial I could be crazy here, but... Don't titans have jump PORTAL generators? Doesn't that mean that all ships in gang with them jump or somesuch? So, one Titan, and 40 freighters, jumping around 0.0 to move stuff up to empire...sounds pretty useful to me.. Isn't fuel for that thing charged by the mass of the ship? In other words, jumping 40 freighters would cost a lot. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
AKULA UrQuan Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.02 21:14:00 - [30] Heh. I pitty the poor fool that builds one for sale. Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..

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