Time Dilation

* In an effort to keep tremendously large fleet engagements fun, the universe will slow down time in order to keep up with the strain of simulating many hundreds of ships.
* Read more about the details and motivations in CCP VeritasGÇÖ devblog Introducing Time Dilation and watch him demo it in the Time Dilation Video Demo.
* Due to the dangerous nature of altering the fabric of spacetime in such ways, the feature will be turned on at a slightly later date. This is to provide isolation from other fundamental alterations to the machinations of the universe in order to reduce the chances of total protonic reversal.

Hail has had its falloff penalty removed completely.

Crucible Question:

As far as the new Capt Qtr. go, is the factional qtrs. based on my character or is it based on the faction that owns the station?

For example, I'm Caldari. If I dock to an Amarr station, would I get an Amarr CQ because of the station or would I still receive my Caldari-based CQ?

Thanks,

We will provide a full list of patch notes in Russian and German tomorrow morning.

The following ships now receive a +10 m/s velocity increase: Enyo, Utu, Brutix, Dominix, Dominix Navy Issue, Megathron, Megathron Federate Issue, Megathron Navy Issue, Lachesis, Astarte, Eos, Helios, Guardian-Vexor, Thorax, Vexor, Vexor Navy Issue, Vigilant, Catalyst, Elite Megathron Duvolle, Arazu, Falcon, Incursus, Maulus, Tristan, Deimos, and Ishtar.

The following ships now receive a 5% bonus to inertia: Enyo, Utu, Brutix, Dominix, Dominix Navy Issue, Megathron, Megathron Federate Issue, Megathron Navy Issue, Lachesis, Astarte, Eos, Helios, Guardian-Vexor, Thorax, Vexor, Vexor Navy Issue, Vigilant, Catalyst, Elite Megathron Duvolle, Arazu, Falcon, Incursus, Maulus, Tristan, Deimos, Ishtar, Hyperion, Vindicator, Sin, Cormorant, Federation Navy Comet, Kronos, Harpy, Ishkur, Ferox, Rokh, Vulture, Celestis, Exequror Navy Issue, Moa, Atron, Daredevil, Merlin, Adrestia, Eagle, Phobos, Ares, Raptor, Taranis and Eris.

Can you elaborate on this?



More specifically, could you give a ballpark figure for this later date? Later this week? Sometime in December? "Soon(tm)"? Also what's the hold-up? (plus, I would imagine total protonic reversal of EVE universe would be a pretty boom and we play EVE for pretty booms, so...)

Wait, what?

Also, the CQ in empire space are cleaner than those in nullsec

The aggression timer for combat has been changed. When logging off in space with PVP aggression, the ship will be removed from space 15 minutes after log-off, or 15 minutes after the most-recent aggressive act against the ship, whichever is the latest.

# Turrets, launchers, EW batteries and hardeners now take 5 seconds to anchor/unanchor and 120 seconds to online/offline
# Every other structure not already mentioned in this list now takes 5 seconds to anchor/unanchor and 3 seconds to online/offline

# Most starbase structures have had their anchor and unanchor timers reduced to 5 seconds.
# Starbase turrets, launchers, electronic warfare batteries and hardeners have had their anchor and unanchor timers reduced to 5 seconds .

Based on the faction that owns the station Reteris. So if you are of the Amarr race, docking into a Caldari Navy station; you will be in Caldari CQ. Also, the CQ in empire space are cleaner than those in nullsec

Modules
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Cloaked ships will no longer decloaking other cloaked ships.
[...]

* Removed personal standings gain from storyline Agents. Previously if a storyline mission was completed in a fleet, the fleet members would be wrongly awarded personal standings.

#Cloaked ships will no longer decloaking other cloaked ships.

# The Jumps API no longer shows jumps into wormhole space.

Star fields have been greatly enhanced to provide a more immersive feeling of being in space. Actual stars from neighboring solar systems will be displayed and the newly rotated stargates will aim at them, making them visible if they are close enough. Further details can be found in the blog Asking for directions by CCP Mannapi.

But those were so useful.

The NOTES!!!! they just keep going!!!!!!

Is there gonna be an awesome expansion vid, like previous times ?

Wasn't this supposed to be changed to 25%?

# Station names have been improved. GÇ£Gallente Station 7GÇ¥ and its friends got a facelift.

I second this "what?"

...What!?

# The Jumps API no longer shows jumps into wormhole space.

I beg your pardon?

Just to make completely sure here:

1. We will now not have the "jump history" for any system in w-space.

2. We will still have the "NPC kill" and "player kill" information.

I'm guessing someone at patchnotesville forgot the name of the t2 megathron produced by duvolle (the Kronos)...or something

I'm guessing someone at patchnotesville forgot the name of the t2 megathron produced by duvolle (the Kronos)...or something

Time Dilation


Due to the dangerous nature of altering the fabric of spacetime in such ways, the feature will be turned on at a slightly later date. This is to provide isolation from other fundamental alterations to the machinations of the universe in order to reduce the chances of total protonic reversal.

Wasn't this supposed to be changed to 25%?

Why did you decide it's a good idea to increase tech2 salvage drop across the board

Makes little sense. Fix the entire rig system instead or don't touch something unbroken

I'm guessing someone at patchnotesville forgot the name of the t2 megathron produced by duvolle (the Kronos)...or something

Why did you decide it's a good idea to increase tech2 salvage drop across the board

Makes little sense. Fix the entire rig system instead or don't touch something unbroken

All hybrid turrets have had their reload time reduced to five seconds.

Just speculating...perhaps they want to see T2 rigs used in more than Capital ships, Supercapital ships, T3 ships, and certain Faction ships? I'm sure there are some people out there throwing them onto Vagabonds or Drakes or whatever, but on the whole a 90M ISK rig just doesn't get used on a day-to-day basis by most players.

I'm surprised no one has picked up on this yet:
Insurance is no longer paid out for players who are killed by CONCORD.

I feel like this has been a long time coming. This is good news!

Everyone picked up on this.

It has been a long time known.

SURPRISE....

"Launching a warp disrupt probe should will give you aggression and prevent you from docking or jumping."

SURPRISE 2 :

"When a jump portal is active on a ship it cannot receive remote assistance. This is now clearly shown on attributes."

SURPRISE 2 :

"When a jump portal is active on a ship it cannot receive remote assistance. This is now clearly shown on attributes."

Based on the faction that owns the station Reteris. So if you are of the Amarr race, docking into a Caldari Navy station; you will be in Caldari CQ. Also, the CQ in empire space are cleaner than those in nullsec

I second this "what?"

...What!?

Yet I've seen a lack of tears... hmm..

SURPRISE....

"Launching a warp disrupt probe should will give you aggression and prevent you from docking or jumping."

So the only thing miners get is a new warfare link?

What about fixing the mineral prices and Grav sites?

Really CCP?!?!

Wait, what?

For suicide gankers who aim to grief, the insurance payout has always been irrelevant. Those who expect this will make their Mackinaws invulnerable to Goon antics will be the ones shedding tears...

The only difference is that "economically viable" suicide piracy for profit in highsec now requires you to write off the BS fleet completely when doing target selection. It won't eliminate it completely, but it does raise the bar by a couple of billion ISK.

In other words, you will be able to stack some additional ridiculously priced officer mods to your carebearmobile before it attracts a suicide gank for the module drop and (more importantly) you can now haul more valuable freighter cargoes before worrying about getting popped by a swarm of high alpha Tempests on some 0.5 gate...

In short; nothing much changes...

Did i miss something?.... when did the Naga loose its Torps?

Window settings on Tranquility have been reset as part of the changes to UI and UI scaling. We are sorry for the inconvenience that this will cause to saved windows.

Can you elaborate on this?



More specifically, could you give a ballpark figure for this later date? Later this week? Sometime in December? "Soon(tm)"? Also what's the hold-up? (plus, I would imagine total protonic reversal of EVE universe would be a pretty boom and we play EVE for pretty booms, so...)

# Warfare link II
# Mining Foreman link II
# Core probe launcher II
# Drone link augmentor II
# Omnidirectional tracking link II
# Drone tracking computer II
# Siege module II
# Triage module II
# Small remote hull repair system II
# Medium remote hull repair system II
# Large remote hull repair system II
# Bomb launcher II
# Micro auxiliary power core II
# Small tractor beam II
# Capital tractor beam II
# Warp disruption field generator II

So is it just me that wanna know the stats on these?

CCP Veritas, CCP Veritas, CCP Veritas ?!? (Did I respect the process ?)

Might you explain us what is that ?

"When a jump portal is active on a ship it cannot receive remote assistance. This is now clearly shown on attributes"

# Warfare link II
# Mining Foreman link II
# Core probe launcher II
# Drone link augmentor II
# Omnidirectional tracking link II
# Drone tracking computer II
# Siege module II
# Triage module II
# Small remote hull repair system II
# Medium remote hull repair system II
# Large remote hull repair system II
# Bomb launcher II
# Micro auxiliary power core II
# Small tractor beam II
# Capital tractor beam II
# Warp disruption field generator II

So is it just me that wanna know the stats on these?

# The Jumps API no longer shows jumps into wormhole space.

I beg your pardon?

Just to make completely sure here:

1. We will now not have the "jump history" for any system in w-space.

2. We will still have the "NPC kill" and "player kill" information.

Assuming my interpretation of that is correct, that makes it very hard to determine if a w-space system has been active lately. It's something we'll adapt to, but was that one run by the CSM or really anyone before being launched? I would definitely have had some feedback on that, to the effect of "hour-old data about whether someone has activated a wormhole in system may not mean much on the face of it, but it can be critical information for us."

Rationale please?

Hi CCP please don't make the dropping dictor bubble aggression change, thanks!

Earlier devblogs stated



Yet the patch notes say nothing about online/offline timers. Only about anchor/unanchor times.



An omission or a change?

Is there gonna be an awesome expansion vid, like previous times ?

So what happened to the assault ship buff? No mention of it in the patch notes

I am excited about this!

Also : Should or Will I know, my english is terribad but...

Is there already a Drone tracking computer I ingame? I though it is called Drone navigation computer?

Except cost to gank is being reduced by over half. Overall I call this patch a buff to gankers.

Will. It has now been fixed.

Drone Tracking Comp increase Range and Tracking. The Navigation Comp increases MWD and Speed by 30%.

They are 2 different modules.

:)

Does it aggress all ships within the buble ? It would be awesome :)

Friendly remote GÇÿEWGÇÖ boosts will no longer work on ships immune to electronic warfare, specifically Tracking Links and Remote Sensor Boosters.

Wait, isn't that what the Omnidirectional Tracking Link is for?

# The Jumps API no longer shows jumps into wormhole space.

I beg your pardon?

Just to make completely sure here:

1. We will now not have the "jump history" for any system in w-space.

2. We will still have the "NPC kill" and "player kill" information.

Assuming my interpretation of that is correct, that makes it very hard to determine if a w-space system has been active lately. It's something we'll adapt to, but was that one run by the CSM or really anyone before being launched? I would definitely have had some feedback on that, to the effect of "hour-old data about whether someone has activated a wormhole in system may not mean much on the face of it, but it can be critical information for us."

Rationale please?

Drone Tracking Comp is Shorthand for the OTL.

Modules

The following Tech II modules have been added and will only be available through Invention. No Tech II BPOGÇÖs will be created for these items:
Warfare link II
Mining Foreman link II
Core probe launcher II
Drone link augmentor II
Omnidirectional tracking link II
Drone tracking computer II
Siege module II
Triage module II
Small remote hull repair system II
Medium remote hull repair system II
Large remote hull repair system II
Bomb launcher II
Micro auxiliary power core II
Small tractor beam II
Capital tractor beam II
Warp disruption field generator II

This please!

So why is the module listed in the patch notes?

What does that have to do with shorthand?

Combat

Insurance is no longer paid out for players who are killed by CONCORD.

Assault ship changes did not make it in to this release. We will revisit those in a future patch or expansion.

Awful.

Shorthand was never a subject of my question.

UI windows that are snapped to the Neocom or map panel will now stay put as you dock orundock. Unfortunately the root cause was the GÇÿLock windows when pinnedGÇÖoption so that has been removed.

This Web of Questions is getting tangled up in my Heavily Sleep Deprived Brain.

The Omnidirectional tracking link is a Drone Tracking Computer. There is a T1 version in game. They are releasing a T2 version in this expansion with better stats.

The Drone Navigation Computer which increases drone Speed has a T1 version in-game by the looks of it a T2 version is not being released in this expansion.

Does that cover it?

Ugh really? Locking the windows is really the only reason I pin them as otherwise I get way too many accidental drags across the screen. Any chance that rather than just remove stuff that may require a bit of effort to fix (this, camera pan when mouseover locked targets) you instead fix it? Maybe not right now but sometime SoonGäó?

Theres a few changes I might like, plenty more I'll wait and see how they pan out, this is probaly the first 'breakage' so far for me

regrettably it's too late in the day to safely put it back before release day, but the option to lock window position will be reintroduced asap in a point release.

Well I'm still confused why's there a Omnidirectional Tracking Link _and_ a Drone Tracking Computer on that list. Doesn't makes much sense for me... Nevertheless, just wanted to point that out.

This forum topic covered the discussion https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35676&find=unread

In particular, CCP Orion's reply:

Yeah the Drone Tracking Computer is a new one to me as well, just did a search and there's no T1 version on TQ

Before we download another 1.6 GB, is there any chance at all that even the tiniest bit of testing has taken place with the Mac Client please?


To be honest, now that so much effort is being devoted to the Station environment rather than the Space and Ships, I am inclined to think I might just as well give up and go back to TheSims3 - although EA never bother to test the Mac Client updates either


As I now have five active accounts, not being able to play or crashing out every time I undock or jump is getting a little tiresome - not to mention expensive.


Incidentally, with my Broadband, 1.6 GB will take over 2 hours at least.


Of course, looking on the bright side, this new update might not be the total disaster than Incarna was

Apologies if this has already been asked/mentioned.......

I know about the window settings been reset etc. but will the current overview settings that players have, STILL be as they are after the update, or are these likely to be reset?

So the only thing miners get is a new warfare link?

What about fixing the mineral prices and Grav sites?

Really CCP?!?!

Assault ship changes did not make it in to this release. We will revisit those in a future patch or expansion.

Before we download another 1.6 GB, is there any chance at all that even the tiniest bit of testing has taken place with the Mac Client please?


To be honest, now that so much effort is being devoted to the Station environment rather than the Space and Ships, I am inclined to think I might just as well give up and go back to TheSims3 - although EA never bother to test the Mac Client updates either


As I now have five active accounts, not being able to play or crashing out every time I undock or jump is getting a little tiresome - not to mention expensive.


Incidentally, with my Broadband, 1.6 GB will take over 2 hours at least.


Of course, looking on the bright side, this new update might not be the total disaster than Incarna was

Due to the removal of drone bays from Titans and Dreadnaughts, we have changed the blueprint requirements across all capital ships as follows:

o Capital drone bay has been removed from the material requirements of Titans and Dreadnoughts. The material requirement of the remaining components has been increased.

o Capital drone bay material requirements have been increased on all supercarriers and carriers.

o Ratios used are for every 100 components removed from a Titan, 25 is added to the requirement of the same races supercarrier and vice versa for components added.

o For each five components removed on a dreadnought, one is added to the requirement of the same races carrier and vice versa for components added.

Get a REAL computer and then you can stop bitching.

In other words, you will be able to stack some additional ridiculously priced officer mods to your carebearmobile before it attracts a suicide gank for the module drop and (more importantly) you can now haul more valuable freighter cargoes before worrying about getting popped by a swarm of high alpha Tempests on some 0.5 gate...

In short; nothing much changes...

I second this "what?"

...What!?

I just tried to add to the Training Queue for one of my characters - and was advised the Subscription has expired


Result! - at least one subscription will not be wasted while Mac users wait for Post-Release Testing to help deal with the usual bugs.

With Incarna I think it was at least a week before it was possible to login and leave the Station without crashing, plus at least one restart to re-acquire the target asteroids and fill the hold with ore.


Let's hope this one is better than that.

Sun light has been increased.

You guys seriously made the stars even brighter? They are already so ridiculously, blindingly bright I can barely see things when they are on my screen even if I am 50+AU away when any Sun-sized star would be no more visible than any other star. This coupled with some of the new nebulas will make it hard to see anything without sunglasses on.

You guys seriously made the stars even brighter? They are already so ridiculously, blindingly bright I can barely see things when they are on my screen even if I am 50+AU away when any Sun-sized star would be no more visible than any other star. This coupled with some of the new nebulas will make it hard to see anything without sunglasses on.

Please CCP, the thing I enjoy most about EVE you care least about.

HELP!

Launching a warp disrupt probe will give you aggression and prevent you from docking or jumping.

Dear CCP

The Naga as another hybrid platform?! Why?! We've already lost the destroyer and the tier 3 battleship to bloody guns; why the tier 3 BC as well? Caldari are about missiles; if you want hybrids cross-train Gallente. And if the Caldari REALLY need a hybrid platform, the Ferox is feeling rather under-loved (though that may change with the hybrid changes).

tl:dr
Give the Naga back its torps; cruises as well would be nice (after they were removed from bombers).

/rant off

Doe EVE still work with Linux?

Hehe

EVE Online: Crucible will be deployed tomorrow, Nov 29. Downtime will begin at 08:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 14:00 UTC. For more information about EVE Online: Crucible, please refer to this news item and full patch notes are available here.

Please use this thread for all comments and feedback.

We are looking forward to welcoming you all to EVE Online: Crucible tomorrow!

Update:
The patch notes have been updated with the following changes.

• Planetary Interaction: We have boosted the bandwidth of links to be 10 times 5 times bigger to deal with the hassle of constantly upgrading them.
• Captains Quarters and 'Load Station Environment' option: When first logging into Crucible, this option will be switched on for everyone. This is in order to be able to spin your ship and not get a static imagine.
• Most starbase structures have had their anchor and unanchor timers reduced to 5 seconds and their online timers set to 3 seconds.
• Starbase turrets, launchers, electronic warfare batteries and hardeners have had their anchor and unanchor timers reduced to 5 seconds and their online timers have been normalized to 120 seconds.

EVE API

* The Jumps API no longer shows jumps into wormhole space.

standard tower and large tower

Where the **** did this come from? No feedback requested. First anyone has seen of it.

It doesn't make sense to have no jumps but keep any other API info about a WH system.

Either keep the jumps in the API or remove NPC/Ship/Pod kills as well.

The magical counter either knows about the system or it doesn't. You can't have half and half.

Thanks but still confused, in market they list small, medium and standard towers. No large listed? (Always heard of standard ones being called by players a 'large pos' but if that's what you mean you are saying the two different towers are the same one)?

See my answer above. Faction towers are not listed on the markets. Show info on any tower, and you will see the others in the variations tab !!

Launching a warp disrupt probe will give you aggression and prevent you from docking or jumping.

EVE Online: Crucible will be deployed tomorrow, Nov 29. Downtime will begin at 08:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 14:00 UTC. For more information about EVE Online: Crucible, please refer to this news item and full patch notes are available here.

Please use this thread for all comments and feedback.

We are looking forward to welcoming you all to EVE Online: Crucible tomorrow!

One of the pos fuel changes was in regards to faction towers - mainly -

"Faction towers will have a 10% fuel use reduction for "tier 1" towers and a 20% fuel use reduction for "tier 2" towers (compared to their standard tower equivalents), taking them to 36/18/9 and 32/16/8 respectively for large/medium/small towers"

I may be missing something very obvious but what is a 'tier 1' tower and what is a 'tier 2' tower exactly?

"Welcome to Eve, here is a Rubic's cube, now f*** off."

To address a couple other issues:

POS towers
sm/med/large (yes large = standard)
Faction towers
Tier 1--------Tier 2
sansha------True sansha
Blood---------Dark Blood
Serpentis----Shadow
Guristas------Dread Guristas
Angel----------Domination
ANYONE who has dealt with towers for more than 5 minutes pretty much knows this in their head, this info is for those who need to buy a clue, send donations to this toon

Been asked quite a few times now, Devs answer many questions, but have yet to respond to this one. I for one, would love to see a response to the questions asked about this change.

Where did that come from, and why?
Is it only jumps, or is it everything?
Honestly, I would rather see nothing, as that just makes sense anyway, but as quoted above, if the magic all seeing counter can see anything in there, then it should see it all.

Wait, what?

SURPRISE....

"Launching a warp disrupt probe should will give you aggression and prevent you from docking or jumping."

SURPRISE 2 :

"When a jump portal is active on a ship it cannot receive remote assistance. This is now clearly shown on attributes."

Ugh really? Locking the windows is really the only reason I pin them as otherwise I get way too many accidental drags across the screen. Any chance that rather than just remove stuff that may require a bit of effort to fix (this, camera pan when mouseover locked targets) you instead fix it? Maybe not right now but sometime SoonGäó?

Theres a few changes I might like, plenty more I'll wait and see how they pan out, this is probaly the first 'breakage' so far for me

So..... about those W space api changes?

It's an old test ship that snuck into the list by accident. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain please

I hope someone reads this because i'm sure that more people feel this way, it's not a matter of the torps its about keeping consistent. Explain why you do things the way you do when you do them this is a BIG change to the naga it deserves more elaboration. Granted explaining every little change to the game would take too long but the big ones YES.

[:Explain why you do things the way you do when you do them this is a BIG change to the naga it deserves more elaboration. Granted explaining every little change to the game would take too long but the big ones YES.

Winston

FYI ~ The ship page for the naga still reads that it can fire torps if it 's not going to be able you should change that or you will have a ton of very confused new players!


Thanks for a great game!!! ~~~~ Now Don't Ruin It

You know that all new tier 3 battlecruisers were designed with PVP in mind, right?
You know that torpedoes are useless on ~25 km range when dealing with turret-equipped counterparts right?
You know that we have already Drake, that is in fact one HUGE unbalanced problem for EVE PVP and there is no reason to make another Drake, especially for happy carebearing on missions.

Please read Test server discussion forums so there will be no surprises for you next time.

ps: now you have good chance to train Gunnery. Try it once and you never come back to missiles

Code for this fix actually went in in early 2009, but the stat changes necessary to activate it "fell down the back of the sofa"; we found them again by accident last month and moved them into the Crucible release. We'll keep an eye on this and see where it ends up taking us balance-wise.

And bombs were had by all!

CCP you have got to be kidding me? It will no longer be possible to lock windows in place when pinned? Well thats a joke. Almost unsubbed. Admittedly im a bit anal about my window layout but in all honesty accidently dragging windows over the screen is going to make me rage my ******* **** off. For real.

Unfix what you think you fixed and return that immediately. I had absolutely NON of the problems you say you have fixed there....

EDIT - Ok i see you say that you are working on it, PLEASE make sure you are working on it because the UI layout has been getting a kick in the teeth (or two) for the last couple of expansions to accommodate some 'feature'.

GÇóWindow settings on Tranquility have been reset as part of the changes to UI and UI scaling. We are sorry for the inconvenience that this will cause to saved windows.

No idea, sorry I wasn't involved in that change (as far as I can remember) so there's really nothing useful I can tell you about it.

City lights on temperate planets no longer render on top of the ocean.

...endless whining about no missiles on Caldari Tier 3 BC deleted...

...endless whining about no missiles on Caldari Tier 3 BC deleted...

You know that we have already Drake, that is in fact one HUGE unbalanced problem for EVE PVP and there is no reason to make another Drake, especially for happy carebearing on missions.

ps: now you have good chance to train Gunnery. Try it once and you never come back to missiles

New Tier 3 BCs being the ultimate word in latest GankMobile(tm) technology.

Captains Quarters visual appearance now changesdepending on the security status of the system they are in. If the Captains Quarters look shiny and beautiful in high sec, they now get more dirty and worn deep in null sec.

Maybe, maybe not. Did you check the specs on the updated destroyers?

I particularly like the "new" Catalyst, since it benefits from both the destroyer buff and the hybrid gun buff (as well as the Gallente speed buff, but that's rather irrelevant for ganking purposes). No ROF penalty, 5% damage buff to blasters, and easier to fit the full rack of 8 guns? Ouch!

And, a dessie is so darn cheap... who really cares about the insurance?