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Gideon5
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:51:00 -
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A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
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Soren Eisarson
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:54:00 -
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Do you have written permission from him to have the account?
I truley hope CCP will be sympathetic to your situation, as long as it is true how you described.
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Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:58:00 -
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Accounts are non transferable. As the 'true' owner of the account your friend, within the EULA, will get it back. But that said by giving the account for your to use I'm sure he broke the EULA as well, so probably a ban for him.
But I'm sure if this was take to the pure letter of the law.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:59:00 -
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They might just ban the account for breaking the EULA and neither of you will get it.
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:05:00 -
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LONG VERSION:
You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited....
You are not permitted to transfer your account to another person. If you wish to discontinue your account please refer to section 6. of this EULA. You may transfer a character from your account to another account, either belonging to you or another person. This transfer option is available from the EVE Online Account Management web site https://secure.eve-online.com/login.asp
Thus Sayeth Ye Olde EULA.
SHORT VERSION:
Yer boned. Start over :\
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Kari Awn
Minmatar
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:06:00 -
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Well, posts like this are hard to prove. If what you say is true, I doubt CCP will give it back to him. It will have your credit card billing information and show that you've been paying for the monthly fee. If he wants back all he has to do is make a new trail account and then update it after 14 days and he's out only $20. Give him $20 and tell him to get over it. He's probably just wanting a character that he doesn't have work hard on.
You might even petition and state that he gave the account to you and you have been paying for the monthly fees. I wish you luck
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Caleb Paine
Infinite Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:12:00 -
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CCP has 2 options;
- Since they don't allow for account tranfers they just don't recognise the whole transaction and will call home to mama (in this case, the original owner) and give him access to the account.
- Since they don't allow for account transfers the question of who has 'right of use' of the account is simply moot, the account was used in an action which breaches the EULA and is therefore banned.
The chance of you keeping the account are almost zero.
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Kalavoz
Caldari
Calista Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:17:00 -
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This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it. 
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:19:00 -
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One more possibility (and it doesn't sound like this is the case): If what he wants is the account or another character on the account, and what you want is the character you've been playing, you could open a new account and he could do a character transfer.
This would make both parties happy while allowing CCP to stay out of it.
But it sounds like you both might be wanting the same character ;p
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:20:00 -
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Transfer the char to a new account and give him back his account. Problem solved.
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Gideon5
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:21:00 -
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This account was not hacked or stolen but given to me by my friend who now wants it back. I really do hope the side with me in his petition as he gave it to em willingly. Thanks alot for your advice and answers.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kaell Meynn on 07/09/2006 00:32:59
Petition, you'll both get banned for violation of the EULA. (If you're not already by the time you read this)
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Blind Man
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:34:00 -
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lol, hes a friend and he wants HIS account back and you dont give it to him? 
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
and this person is someone you call "friend" ??
from what you have claimed, he is no "friend" at all if he is doing this.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Transfer the char to a new account and give him back his account. Problem solved.
i like that solution.
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RedLion
Caldari
Gloria Victis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:50:00 -
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Do the "WoW solution".
If a person who sold his character wants it back. Then report him for stealing your credit card.
works wonders, accounts gets banned every day :)
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.07 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
You're both going to be banned for breaking the EULA/TOS.
Have a nice day.
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Cerberal
Minmatar
Hmmzor.
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:36:00 -
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Solution: Steal everything from account, then delete character.
Then give his account back =)
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Benglada
Finite Auxiliary
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:39:00 -
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your choosing a fictional charactor over your friend who was nice enough to give you an account?
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Kybane Atreides
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:41:00 -
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So just curious, did he say he gave you his account or that you could play it?
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Alessar Kaldorei
Caldari
Free Space Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Alessar Kaldorei on 07/09/2006 02:45:30
I'd do what others have suggested. Make a new account, transfer the character (you would have all the info on both accounts), then cancel the subscription and give him back the account.
Out of curiosity, how is he petitioning? Don't you need to sign in with an account to petition? You did change the password when you updated your credit card info, right?
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Vance Moore
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:49:00 -
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heh let him have his account back, but before you do there is a character transfer service for $20.. transfer the toon to your account & let him have his account back. CCP is prolly gona ban him anyway.
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:52:00 -
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CCP need to make new ruleą simple one would beą that the person who has paid the most on that account as per credit card info would get the accountą simple as that just a simple rule stating that if you informally give someone your account and that person has used and paid for that account more then the original account holder that they are then the owner of said accountą I think this is for the best interest as the person who is paying clearly is showing interest in EVE while the person who left and gave it up really doesnĘt have and might quit again and leave the account abandoned or sell it for isk/money or some siteą
IĘm in favor of that person who is paying and is interested in the gameą thatĘs what CCP should vote for as well.
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Graelyn
Amarr
The Aeternus Crusade
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:53:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that authentication will be done, not by credit card, but by the email address the account was first attributed to/made by.
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kalavoz
This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it.
This same thing happened to a friend of mine... and than when one of my other friends complained about it on the forums, he got banned... 
To the OP: You sound like a real ass. If a friend gives you their account when they quit, you should always give it back when they come back! Now they'll probably just ban the account along with the character... 
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:58:00 -
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If a person bought eve accountą played for say 3 monthsą sees he doesnĘt like itą gives said account to friendą that friend pays and invests over 1-3 years into that accountą and then the original player comes in and wants it back? I think you could probably even win in court that the person who has invested and paid for said account, pretty much CCP is playing judge and not very good at it, and by there rules atm would be favoring just the person who has bought initial boxą mind you that initial box + 3 months is < then someone who has paid for account for 1-3 years? If anything rule should be to own account you must have paid for it greater then initial cost of (box) + the monthly fee of said owner to get the account.
What do you guys think :P if this was not a MMO and not a monthly fee then it would go for the Box owner of courseą as other friend who has account did not invest any real money into it.
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:00:00 -
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As others said, I'd transfer the char then give it back. I would've done this in the first place and then not subscribed to the old account because account transfers arent allowed. Technically he is still the owner, but for letting somebody else use it, he has breached the EULA. 
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:02:00 -
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are we talking here accounts with characters? or just account? or character because thats a whole diff story... if person wants account... then hey give it to him it might cost you $20 for char transfer but you get to keep that char that you have invested in and they can have there account and create a new one
quite frankly people are lucky the chars dont expire or get deleted... so i dont see why ppl who have left would complain or demand accounts back... esp when they can change the story around very easy... if it was just verbal.
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie
Originally by: Kalavoz
This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it.
This same thing happened to a friend of mine... and than when one of my other friends complained about it on the forums, he got banned...
To the OP: You sound like a real ass. If a friend gives you their account when they quit, you should always give it back when they come back! Now they'll probably just ban the account along with the character...
If he actually said "OK, you can HAVE it", not "ok you can use my account for a bit, but I want it back if I ask" he shouldn't be asking for it back, he gave it with the understanding that it would be his, which is why the new owner invested time into it. If I'm wrong, say so, but if you give somebody a gift, and then ask for it back, thats kind've rude and doesn't make you a very good friend.
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:04:00 -
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If you ask me, your friend GAVE you that account, and now he's trying to take it back while your still using it. Sounds like he's an ass. The way i see it there isn't much difference from him giving you the best present of your life, then taking it back an hour later when your having the most fun "cause he wants it". Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me . But worse is that the account may very well jsut get banned .
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