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Cattraknoff
Caldari Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Duban Banned If you ask me, your friend GAVE you that account, and now he's trying to take it back while your still using it. Sounds like he's an ass. The way i see it there isn't much difference from him giving you the best present of your life, then taking it back an hour later when your having the most fun "cause he wants it". Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me . But worse is that the account may very well jsut get banned .
QUICK, transfer chars before it happened. Also delete any trace of posts here. And then, make a new character on the old account and say you deleted his/your character and wanted to start over. Then give the account back 
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WildAmishRose
Caldari Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:36:00 -
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Eve < Friends.
Give the guy his account back, big deal. Roll up an uberalt and go to it.
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SurfinSeaOtter
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:42:00 -
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Ok, this is what you do... get him podded 2x so he loses all his cool skills and has to relearn :)
Then simply give him his char back 
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: WildAmishRose Eve < Friends.
Give the guy his account back, big deal. Roll up an uberalt and go to it.
well he gave him the account and is trying to take it back, is he even a friend worth having?
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon5 A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
He won't get it back, and chances are high on you getting banned. No account transfering is allowed. Exactly for this reason. Should have had the character transfered
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:22:00 -
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Start a new account, transfer the character to your new account that is yours, give him back his account minus the character 
BOOBIES! |

Lemoning Lemming
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalavoz This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it. 
This happened to me about 14 months ago, also with exactly the same outcome. Annoying bit was while I was away they added the character transfer function and they sold my 20mill+ SP char for loads of ISK and I had to start over.
Annoying, but at least they appear to be consistent which is good.
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:36:00 -
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Have a RL 1vs1.
Problem solved. |

CB Cyrix
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: CB Cyrix on 07/09/2006 09:38:57 start a new account and transfer all his assets to your new char, then transfer his char to your account for the small fee.
then move the assets over slowly (only what you need to survive) till its sorted and let him have his account back and no ones the wiser ;)
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:44:00 -
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I hate to tell you this, but that friend of yours just shot himself and you in the foot.
Make a new account yourself RIGHT NOW! and transfer your stuff over to it.
The sound you hear is the swish of the Banstick on the backswing. CCP hace banned accounts for less, and you can be damn sure what you have done breached the EULA, so there you have it.
Originally by: Posidrive So technically being a pirate is't quite as easy as I thought after reading this guide.
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migwar
Karnival of Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:44:00 -
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let him have the account, But transfer all assets to another account so you can buy a char off the forums
win win kinda
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Ciphero
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:05:00 -
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Account sharing (i.e. allowing anyone but the original account owner to use it) is a breach of the EULA. Whoever should get the account back on ethical grounds will just have a banned login to play with.
So, nice going the pair of you. |

Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:07:00 -
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Contrary to popular belief, account sharing is not usually an instant permaban, especially as many people don't know its even against the rules.
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:17:00 -
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The EULA also mentions that players have to keep up with the rules themselves and are expected to know about this. Being ignorant doesn't help you a bit here. |

Rab
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:20:00 -
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If account transfer is against the rules, how come its possible to modify the account information, including Name and Gender?
Surely the safest way to ensure this would be to lock that information upon account creation, and then in the cases of players changing name or undergoing gender realignment, they can appeal to have their information changed.
- In an infinite universe, everything is definite. - |

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rab If account transfer is against the rules, how come its possible to modify the account information, including Name and Gender?
Because these can be changed in real life as well? -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Iyanah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon5 A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
see, most other games do not alow the trade of accounts, and so in such a case, the original owner would be given his account back. i know where i used to work (on a rival mmo - no i will not say which one for security reasons, so don't ask) I was head of a team who dealt with accounts that were both stolen and traded, tracking down the main account of the "thief" and banning that account if it had interacted with the stolen one. just think yourself lucky that the worst that will happen with CCP is that your friend will get his account back.
i don't mean to sound harsh, just looking from an objective point of view, and i know it may suck to loose your work, however it was your friend's work in the first place. you want an account, i believe you should work for it, and all those who buy accounts are not getting the full game experience (and are at least a little bit lame for doing so). ========================================== Iy |

Selena 001
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Selena 001 on 07/09/2006 10:50:13
Originally by: Rumbaar ... But that said by giving the account for your to use I'm sure he broke the EULA as well, so probably a ban for him...
So there you have it. If he gets it back, petition to get him banned, if he doesn't, rock on You could always start up a new account, transfer the character to it, then give the old account back to your mate, but then I'm guessing that will start all sorts of problems out... Better just ignore that idea afterall. ___________
NATIONAL SARCASM DAY!! |

Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:55:00 -
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If your credit card has been on the account for longer than 6 months, its yours. If not, then he may get it back.
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TheDeceit
Minmatar Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:02:00 -
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I would say that the best solution would be to go to your friend's house and break every part of him that can type a petition. --------
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Valkazm
Amarr Cursed Spawn Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:43:00 -
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with friends like that who needs enemies
Cursed Spawn recruitment |

Rina Shanu
Peace Loving Criminals
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man lol, hes a friend and he wants HIS account back and you dont give it to him? 
QFT, truth be told.
RECRUITMENT this ok dear? |

GeekWarrior
Gallente Isotope Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:06:00 -
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Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me. ----------------------------- EVE Addict |

Doctor Octagon
Amarr Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:08:00 -
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If say this person has been playing the game for 2 years, he has been paying for the actual game and has payed the monthly fees after that. If this person after you have played it a few months reconsidered and wanted it back, ofcourse you let him have it back. What kind of friendship is this really, we are talking a toon here. + What you have paid for a few months is the payment for playing the game, its not like you have invested 1000 $ on it ?. Ofcourse if you had played the game more than him, and the char was built mainly by you things would be differently.
Keep the friendship and try to agree on some isk if you feel that you have contributed much. Not giving this char back is crazy if you are talking friends or people you know here.
Maybe try to agree on something rather that petitioning one another. Sounds crazy to me.
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Kharriga
Caldari The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:12:00 -
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if its old character go grind some isk and buy one more for it?
sell 90% of youre current assets and buy new one?
then transfer the rest to youre new character and give him his old one in an ibis and 0.0 isk
everyone wins ( or loses whatever )
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Donna Air
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Contrary to popular belief, account sharing is not usually an instant permaban, especially as many people don't know its even against the rules.
Contrary to popular belief your not always right, and ignorance is not a defense.
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kharriga if its old character go grind some isk and buy one more for it?
sell 90% of youre current assets and buy new one?
then transfer the rest to youre new character and give him his old one in an ibis and 0.0 isk
everyone wins ( or loses whatever )
Dont forget to pod selfdestruct the character without a clone over and over again to bring the SP down to where it was when he gave it to you 
He is going to get his account back thats a certainty, whether he will be permabanned is in the hands of the powers that be.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:51:00 -
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Did he ask for the account back before petitioning?
Are you sure it is really him petitioning?
If the answers are no and yes then I would:
1) create an alt called youreanidiot or somesuch 2) Sell the main for isk 3) create a new account 4) transfer the isk to your new account 5) let your friend reclaim the remains of the account, consisting of one character called youreanidiot
But be creative. Don't do this, nor exactly what anyone else is saying. Personalise it.
----- Russell T Davies is my master now. |

Hippo117
Caldari 9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:04:00 -
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CCP will ask for the name, birthday, registration key, registered name, and various names of charecters possibly on the account in order to confirm that they are the origional owner. Once this is confirmed, the account is rightfully his because the EULA clearly states no account transfers and no sharing login stuff. He will have the account returned to his name at the very least, and at the most will also have the account banned for breaching the EULA in several places. Any charecter transfer attempts would most likely look maicious in the face of the petition, and will likely result in the OP getting an IP ban for selling/moving a charecter not rightfully his, which in the case of an isk sale would amount to scamming people in one of the few ways they would actually interfere.
I know all this because a few months back someone got into my alt account, sold it on ebay with a 90 day time card, and then changed the password and everything after it sold and the buyer had logged onto the account. CCP was slow on the resolution (36 hours iirc) because of all the confirmation they had to do (also comparing ip addresses) but in the end they did what was right according to the EULA (and i got to keep the timecard \o/ ).
So unfortunately, the OP and quite possibly his friend too, are out of luck. you should have done a charecter transfer instead of an account transfer, and then the charecter(s) would legally belong to the OP. Sorry man. --------------
My opinions may not represent the opinions of my corporation or alliance. Booby > Rokh Caldari != win button. |

Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:16:00 -
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To be honest CCP's position on this is ******* stupid, and theres no way the account should be banned. Yes I know they broke the EULA but to be honest **** off. Its a stupid rule in a lot of cases.
Get your friend to cancel his petition, Inform him his petition is just going to get himself banned anyway.
Then agree to iether Transfer the charachter to a new account and you pay your mate for the transfer in ISK if you can afford to do so. Win Win situation.
Alliaanna
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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