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Gideon5
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:51:00 -
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A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
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Soren Eisarson
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:54:00 -
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Do you have written permission from him to have the account?
I truley hope CCP will be sympathetic to your situation, as long as it is true how you described.
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Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:58:00 -
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Accounts are non transferable. As the 'true' owner of the account your friend, within the EULA, will get it back. But that said by giving the account for your to use I'm sure he broke the EULA as well, so probably a ban for him.
But I'm sure if this was take to the pure letter of the law.
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.09.06 23:59:00 -
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They might just ban the account for breaking the EULA and neither of you will get it.
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:05:00 -
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LONG VERSION:
You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited....
You are not permitted to transfer your account to another person. If you wish to discontinue your account please refer to section 6. of this EULA. You may transfer a character from your account to another account, either belonging to you or another person. This transfer option is available from the EVE Online Account Management web site https://secure.eve-online.com/login.asp
Thus Sayeth Ye Olde EULA.
SHORT VERSION:
Yer boned. Start over :\
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Kari Awn
Minmatar
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:06:00 -
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Well, posts like this are hard to prove. If what you say is true, I doubt CCP will give it back to him. It will have your credit card billing information and show that you've been paying for the monthly fee. If he wants back all he has to do is make a new trail account and then update it after 14 days and he's out only $20. Give him $20 and tell him to get over it. He's probably just wanting a character that he doesn't have work hard on.
You might even petition and state that he gave the account to you and you have been paying for the monthly fees. I wish you luck
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Caleb Paine
Infinite Technologies
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:12:00 -
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CCP has 2 options;
- Since they don't allow for account tranfers they just don't recognise the whole transaction and will call home to mama (in this case, the original owner) and give him access to the account.
- Since they don't allow for account transfers the question of who has 'right of use' of the account is simply moot, the account was used in an action which breaches the EULA and is therefore banned.
The chance of you keeping the account are almost zero.
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Kalavoz
Caldari
Calista Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:17:00 -
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This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it. 
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Liegus
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:19:00 -
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One more possibility (and it doesn't sound like this is the case): If what he wants is the account or another character on the account, and what you want is the character you've been playing, you could open a new account and he could do a character transfer.
This would make both parties happy while allowing CCP to stay out of it.
But it sounds like you both might be wanting the same character ;p
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:20:00 -
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Transfer the char to a new account and give him back his account. Problem solved.
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Gideon5
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:21:00 -
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This account was not hacked or stolen but given to me by my friend who now wants it back. I really do hope the side with me in his petition as he gave it to em willingly. Thanks alot for your advice and answers.
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kaell Meynn on 07/09/2006 00:32:59
Petition, you'll both get banned for violation of the EULA. (If you're not already by the time you read this)
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Blind Man
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:34:00 -
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lol, hes a friend and he wants HIS account back and you dont give it to him? 
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
and this person is someone you call "friend" ??
from what you have claimed, he is no "friend" at all if he is doing this.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Transfer the char to a new account and give him back his account. Problem solved.
i like that solution.
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RedLion
Caldari
Gloria Victis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:50:00 -
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Do the "WoW solution".
If a person who sold his character wants it back. Then report him for stealing your credit card.
works wonders, accounts gets banned every day :)
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.07 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
You're both going to be banned for breaking the EULA/TOS.
Have a nice day.
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Cerberal
Minmatar
Hmmzor.
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:36:00 -
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Solution: Steal everything from account, then delete character.
Then give his account back =)
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Benglada
Finite Auxiliary
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:39:00 -
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your choosing a fictional charactor over your friend who was nice enough to give you an account?
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Kybane Atreides
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:41:00 -
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So just curious, did he say he gave you his account or that you could play it?
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Alessar Kaldorei
Caldari
Free Space Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Alessar Kaldorei on 07/09/2006 02:45:30
I'd do what others have suggested. Make a new account, transfer the character (you would have all the info on both accounts), then cancel the subscription and give him back the account.
Out of curiosity, how is he petitioning? Don't you need to sign in with an account to petition? You did change the password when you updated your credit card info, right?
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Vance Moore
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:49:00 -
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heh let him have his account back, but before you do there is a character transfer service for $20.. transfer the toon to your account & let him have his account back. CCP is prolly gona ban him anyway.
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:52:00 -
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CCP need to make new ruleą simple one would beą that the person who has paid the most on that account as per credit card info would get the accountą simple as that just a simple rule stating that if you informally give someone your account and that person has used and paid for that account more then the original account holder that they are then the owner of said accountą I think this is for the best interest as the person who is paying clearly is showing interest in EVE while the person who left and gave it up really doesnĘt have and might quit again and leave the account abandoned or sell it for isk/money or some siteą
IĘm in favor of that person who is paying and is interested in the gameą thatĘs what CCP should vote for as well.
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Graelyn
Amarr
The Aeternus Crusade
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:53:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that authentication will be done, not by credit card, but by the email address the account was first attributed to/made by.
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kalavoz
This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it.
This same thing happened to a friend of mine... and than when one of my other friends complained about it on the forums, he got banned... 
To the OP: You sound like a real ass. If a friend gives you their account when they quit, you should always give it back when they come back! Now they'll probably just ban the account along with the character... 
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 02:58:00 -
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If a person bought eve accountą played for say 3 monthsą sees he doesnĘt like itą gives said account to friendą that friend pays and invests over 1-3 years into that accountą and then the original player comes in and wants it back? I think you could probably even win in court that the person who has invested and paid for said account, pretty much CCP is playing judge and not very good at it, and by there rules atm would be favoring just the person who has bought initial boxą mind you that initial box + 3 months is < then someone who has paid for account for 1-3 years? If anything rule should be to own account you must have paid for it greater then initial cost of (box) + the monthly fee of said owner to get the account.
What do you guys think :P if this was not a MMO and not a monthly fee then it would go for the Box owner of courseą as other friend who has account did not invest any real money into it.
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:00:00 -
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As others said, I'd transfer the char then give it back. I would've done this in the first place and then not subscribed to the old account because account transfers arent allowed. Technically he is still the owner, but for letting somebody else use it, he has breached the EULA. 
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:02:00 -
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are we talking here accounts with characters? or just account? or character because thats a whole diff story... if person wants account... then hey give it to him it might cost you $20 for char transfer but you get to keep that char that you have invested in and they can have there account and create a new one
quite frankly people are lucky the chars dont expire or get deleted... so i dont see why ppl who have left would complain or demand accounts back... esp when they can change the story around very easy... if it was just verbal.
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie
Originally by: Kalavoz
This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it.
This same thing happened to a friend of mine... and than when one of my other friends complained about it on the forums, he got banned...
To the OP: You sound like a real ass. If a friend gives you their account when they quit, you should always give it back when they come back! Now they'll probably just ban the account along with the character...
If he actually said "OK, you can HAVE it", not "ok you can use my account for a bit, but I want it back if I ask" he shouldn't be asking for it back, he gave it with the understanding that it would be his, which is why the new owner invested time into it. If I'm wrong, say so, but if you give somebody a gift, and then ask for it back, thats kind've rude and doesn't make you a very good friend.
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:04:00 -
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If you ask me, your friend GAVE you that account, and now he's trying to take it back while your still using it. Sounds like he's an ass. The way i see it there isn't much difference from him giving you the best present of your life, then taking it back an hour later when your having the most fun "cause he wants it". Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me . But worse is that the account may very well jsut get banned .
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Cattraknoff
Caldari
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Duban Banned
If you ask me, your friend GAVE you that account, and now he's trying to take it back while your still using it. Sounds like he's an ass. The way i see it there isn't much difference from him giving you the best present of your life, then taking it back an hour later when your having the most fun "cause he wants it". Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me . But worse is that the account may very well jsut get banned .
QUICK, transfer chars before it happened. Also delete any trace of posts here. And then, make a new character on the old account and say you deleted his/your character and wanted to start over. Then give the account back 
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WildAmishRose
Caldari
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:36:00 -
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Eve < Friends.
Give the guy his account back, big deal. Roll up an uberalt and go to it.
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SurfinSeaOtter
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:42:00 -
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Ok, this is what you do... get him podded 2x so he loses all his cool skills and has to relearn :)
Then simply give him his char back
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Duban Banned
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Posted - 2006.09.07 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: WildAmishRose
Eve < Friends.
Give the guy his account back, big deal. Roll up an uberalt and go to it.
well he gave him the account and is trying to take it back, is he even a friend worth having?
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
He won't get it back, and chances are high on you getting banned. No account transfering is allowed. Exactly for this reason. Should have had the character transfered
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:22:00 -
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Start a new account, transfer the character to your new account that is yours, give him back his account minus the character 
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Lemoning Lemming
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalavoz
This happened to a friend of mine a month or so ago.
He'd been playing eve from the start, and left after about a year.
He came back to Eve about a month or so ago and found that his account had been hacked, and that someone else had been playing the character (and paying to play it) up until the current date.
After a fair amount of communications between my friend and CCP, the decision was that while he could have his account name back, he could not have the actual character... which to this day remains in the possession of the one who stole it.
This happened to me about 14 months ago, also with exactly the same outcome. Annoying bit was while I was away they added the character transfer function and they sold my 20mill+ SP char for loads of ISK and I had to start over.
Annoying, but at least they appear to be consistent which is good.
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:36:00 -
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Have a RL 1vs1.
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CB Cyrix
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: CB Cyrix on 07/09/2006 09:38:57
start a new account and transfer all his assets to your new char, then transfer his char to your account for the small fee.
then move the assets over slowly (only what you need to survive) till its sorted and let him have his account back and no ones the wiser ;)
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:44:00 -
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I hate to tell you this, but that friend of yours just shot himself and you in the foot.
Make a new account yourself RIGHT NOW! and transfer your stuff over to it.
The sound you hear is the swish of the Banstick on the backswing.
CCP hace banned accounts for less, and you can be damn sure what you have done breached the EULA, so there you have it.
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migwar
Karnival of Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:44:00 -
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let him have the account, But transfer all assets to another account so you can buy a char off the forums
win win kinda
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Ciphero
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:05:00 -
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Account sharing (i.e. allowing anyone but the original account owner to use it) is a breach of the EULA. Whoever should get the account back on ethical grounds will just have a banned login to play with.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:07:00 -
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Contrary to popular belief, account sharing is not usually an instant permaban, especially as many people don't know its even against the rules.
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:17:00 -
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The EULA also mentions that players have to keep up with the rules themselves and are expected to know about this.
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Rab
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:20:00 -
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If account transfer is against the rules, how come its possible to modify the account information, including Name and Gender?
Surely the safest way to ensure this would be to lock that information upon account creation, and then in the cases of players changing name or undergoing gender realignment, they can appeal to have their information changed.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:27:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Rab
If account transfer is against the rules, how come its possible to modify the account information, including Name and Gender?
Because these can be changed in real life as well?
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Iyanah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:36:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
see, most other games do not alow the trade of accounts, and so in such a case, the original owner would be given his account back. i know where i used to work (on a rival mmo - no i will not say which one for security reasons, so don't ask) I was head of a team who dealt with accounts that were both stolen and traded, tracking down the main account of the "thief" and banning that account if it had interacted with the stolen one. just think yourself lucky that the worst that will happen with CCP is that your friend will get his account back.
i don't mean to sound harsh, just looking from an objective point of view, and i know it may suck to loose your work, however it was your friend's work in the first place. you want an account, i believe you should work for it, and all those who buy accounts are not getting the full game experience (and are at least a little bit lame for doing so).
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:47:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Selena 001 on 07/09/2006 10:50:13
Originally by: Rumbaar
... But that said by giving the account for your to use I'm sure he broke the EULA as well, so probably a ban for him...
So there you have it. If he gets it back, petition to get him banned, if he doesn't, rock on  You could always start up a new account, transfer the character to it, then give the old account back to your mate, but then I'm guessing that will start all sorts of problems out... Better just ignore that idea afterall.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:55:00 -
[49]
If your credit card has been on the account for longer than 6 months, its yours. If not, then he may get it back.
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TheDeceit
Minmatar
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:02:00 -
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I would say that the best solution would be to go to your friend's house and break every part of him that can type a petition.
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Valkazm
Amarr
Cursed Spawn
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:43:00 -
[51]
with friends like that who needs enemies
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Rina Shanu
Peace Loving Criminals
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:00:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Blind Man
lol, hes a friend and he wants HIS account back and you dont give it to him?
QFT, truth be told.
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GeekWarrior
Gallente
Isotope Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:06:00 -
[53]
Doesn't sound like much of a friend to me.
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Doctor Octagon
Amarr
Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:08:00 -
[54]
If say this person has been playing the game for 2 years, he has been paying for the actual game and has payed the monthly fees after that. If this person after you have played it a few months reconsidered and wanted it back, ofcourse you let him have it back. What kind of friendship is this really, we are talking a toon here. + What you have paid for a few months is the payment for playing the game, its not like you have invested 1000 $ on it ?. Ofcourse if you had played the game more than him, and the char was built mainly by you things would be differently.
Keep the friendship and try to agree on some isk if you feel that you have contributed much. Not giving this char back is crazy if you are talking friends or people you know here.
Maybe try to agree on something rather that petitioning one another. Sounds crazy to me.
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Kharriga
Caldari
The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:12:00 -
[55]
if its old character go grind some isk and buy one more for it?
sell 90% of youre current assets and buy new one?
then transfer the rest to youre new character and give him his old one in an ibis and 0.0 isk
everyone wins ( or loses whatever )
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Donna Air
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:28:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Contrary to popular belief, account sharing is not usually an instant permaban, especially as many people don't know its even against the rules.
Contrary to popular belief your not always right, and ignorance is not a defense.
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Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:36:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kharriga
if its old character go grind some isk and buy one more for it?
sell 90% of youre current assets and buy new one?
then transfer the rest to youre new character and give him his old one in an ibis and 0.0 isk
everyone wins ( or loses whatever )
Dont forget to pod selfdestruct the character without a clone over and over again to bring the SP down to where it was when he gave it to you 
He is going to get his account back thats a certainty, whether he will be permabanned is in the hands of the powers that be.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:51:00 -
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Did he ask for the account back before petitioning?
Are you sure it is really him petitioning?
If the answers are no and yes then I would:
1) create an alt called youreanidiot or somesuch
2) Sell the main for isk
3) create a new account
4) transfer the isk to your new account
5) let your friend reclaim the remains of the account, consisting of one character called youreanidiot
But be creative. Don't do this, nor exactly what anyone else is saying. Personalise it.
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Hippo117
Caldari
9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:04:00 -
[59]
CCP will ask for the name, birthday, registration key, registered name, and various names of charecters possibly on the account in order to confirm that they are the origional owner. Once this is confirmed, the account is rightfully his because the EULA clearly states no account transfers and no sharing login stuff. He will have the account returned to his name at the very least, and at the most will also have the account banned for breaching the EULA in several places. Any charecter transfer attempts would most likely look maicious in the face of the petition, and will likely result in the OP getting an IP ban for selling/moving a charecter not rightfully his, which in the case of an isk sale would amount to scamming people in one of the few ways they would actually interfere.
I know all this because a few months back someone got into my alt account, sold it on ebay with a 90 day time card, and then changed the password and everything after it sold and the buyer had logged onto the account. CCP was slow on the resolution (36 hours iirc) because of all the confirmation they had to do (also comparing ip addresses) but in the end they did what was right according to the EULA (and i got to keep the timecard \o/ ).
So unfortunately, the OP and quite possibly his friend too, are out of luck. you should have done a charecter transfer instead of an account transfer, and then the charecter(s) would legally belong to the OP. Sorry man.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:16:00 -
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To be honest CCP's position on this is ******* stupid, and theres no way the account should be banned. Yes I know they broke the EULA but to be honest **** off. Its a stupid rule in a lot of cases.
Get your friend to cancel his petition, Inform him his petition is just going to get himself banned anyway.
Then agree to iether Transfer the charachter to a new account and you pay your mate for the transfer in ISK if you can afford to do so. Win Win situation.
Alliaanna
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
To be honest CCP's position on this is stupid, and theres no way the account should be banned.
And like DS said ... it probably won't be. CCP have the RIGHT to ban you for breaching the EULA. They don't automatically do so in every single instance; they can do whatever they feel is appropriate.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:30:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
You will lose the account.
Sounds like your "friend" is a worthless pile of dog ****. View the incident as a "learning experience".
For the record, in ANY game, if you get account from a friend, ask point blank "Am I simply "holding" this account, or is it MINE?" Get that question settled before investing in it. As for the EULA, you will lose the account.
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This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
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DrakeStone
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:02:00 -
[63]
It's ashame that Judge Wapner retired.
He could straighten you kids out!
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elbenito
Battlestars
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:59:00 -
[64]
The phrase "Indian Giver" comes to mind.
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Reecor
Caldari
The Siths
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:12:00 -
[65]
Look at the situation as it is. Your friend has created the account with his name, date of birth, email adress etc.
Its still his account, he gave it to you to "play" with it. Now he wants it back, and when you did¦nt create an own account and transferred the character you build up to it, its your fault.
That¦s the difference between an account and a character. The character is your work, but not your property* as long its not your account. So ffs transfer it to a new account with Vmax and give the account back to your "friend".
An other possibility would be to tell your friend to give you the money back you invested into the character, this doesn¦t give you the time you needed to build your toon, but you can use it to build up another char.
Btw, I think after the mods have read through this thread, the account will be banned, so its not that important.
Kids, please read the EULA and think about what you are doing!
*the character is still the property of CCP, but you have the right to use it in EVE when its your account :)
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Trauts
LFC
3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:46:00 -
[66]
Sell the char for isk and split it, both of you can start a new char with plenty of isk in your wallets and hopefully we will have all learned something from this. |
TheMessanger
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.08 06:44:00 -
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my advice. copy the account. change the accounts name. change the charectors name. problem solved
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Cpt Creed
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.08 08:11:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Gideon5
A friend of mine gave me his eve account to play a few months ago. I've dont just that. Been playing the account and making it better and have updated all info my my credit card and have been paying for months etc. NOW he claims he wants to get back into eve again, and wants the account back. So he petitioned to have CCP give it back to him. WTF? Will ccp give this account back just because he had it first? Please help.
If someone willingly gives their account details to another person they have effectively given up all rights to that account. This is basically what I was told by GM's during a similar incident to yours.
If CCP do in fact give the account back to its original owner I would be extremely interested in their reasons why.... and more importantly want to know why they have one rule for one person and another rule for another person when both instances are pretty much identical (from what I've read).
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.08 08:21:00 -
[69]
I honestly think CCP could just ban the account if it was given away after account giving/sharing was made against the EULA.
That way, you two don't have to risk your friendship over a friggin game, and CCP can enforce their rules.
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