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Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
169
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Posted - 2014.12.11 09:18:48 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Full Definition of CIRCADIAN
: being, having, characterized by, or occurring in approximately 24-hour periods or cycles (as of biological activity or function)
Should we be looking at the name for a clue? I don't think the name was drawn at random by the CCP computers.
Evren Toralen wrote:The cloaked structure I found disappeared after 24hrs. Only the beacon is left.
I say 24hrs because i found it when i logged on and visited again roughly the same time next day. Anyone else have the same?
Now, that's somehow what I observed.
My journey startet in Muer/Everyshore, I scanned for the new scattered Wormholes and found one. I am sure there has been an Unidentified Structure in Muer when I entered the scattered Wormhole.
Once inside the wormhole the entry quickly collapsed but a new connection to Yeder/Tash Murkon opened - and in Yeder there is an Unidentified Structure.
I rushed back to Muer - no Unidentified Structure.
Somehow I feel like those structures mark entry systems to the shattered wormholes.
Unfortunately I've seen some systems (Leremplombes as an example) having an Unidentified Structure but no signatures at all. |
Haschta Sal Locehctah
INNO Agency
0
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:03:31 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:
Now, that's somehow what I observed.
My journey startet in Muer/Everyshore, I scanned for the new scattered Wormholes and found one. I am sure there has been an Unidentified Structure in Muer when I entered the scattered Wormhole.
Once inside the wormhole the entry quickly collapsed but a new connection to Yeder/Tash Murkon opened - and in Yeder there is an Unidentified Structure.
I rushed back to Muer - no Unidentified Structure.
Somehow I feel like those structures mark entry systems to the shattered wormholes.
Unfortunately I've seen some systems (Leremplombes as an example) having an Unidentified Structure but no signatures at all.
ohh thats interesting !!!! |
Aiyshimin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
206
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:16:40 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:Michael Ruckert wrote:Full Definition of CIRCADIAN
: being, having, characterized by, or occurring in approximately 24-hour periods or cycles (as of biological activity or function)
Should we be looking at the name for a clue? I don't think the name was drawn at random by the CCP computers. Evren Toralen wrote:The cloaked structure I found disappeared after 24hrs. Only the beacon is left.
I say 24hrs because i found it when i logged on and visited again roughly the same time next day. Anyone else have the same? Now, that's somehow what I observed. My journey startet in Muer/Everyshore, I scanned for the new scattered Wormholes and found one. I am sure there has been an Unidentified Structure in Muer when I entered the scattered Wormhole. Once inside the wormhole the entry quickly collapsed but a new connection to Yeder/Tash Murkon opened - and in Yeder there is an Unidentified Structure. I rushed back to Muer - no Unidentified Structure. Somehow I feel like those structures mark entry systems to the shattered wormholes. Unfortunately I've seen some systems (Leremplombes as an example) having an Unidentified Structure but no signatures at all.
My (humble) research supports the theory of these structures being somehow linked to wormholes in the same system. It is also possible that the structure persists in a system after the wormhole connection has died (of age or by players collapsing it).
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Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
169
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Posted - 2014.12.11 10:52:49 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:My (humble) research supports the theory of these structures being somehow linked to wormholes in the same system. It is also possible that the structure persists in a system after the wormhole connection has died (of age or by players collapsing it).
I'm curious if those structures may act like a cyno to shattered wormhole connections enableing them to establish a K162 into known space... some kind of lightning conductor... only working while their cloaking device is having a malfunction.
If we can't interact with them there should be another reason for them to exist... won't be decoration only.
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Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
73
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:03:38 -
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Evren Toralen wrote:The cloaked structure I found disappeared after 24hrs. Only the beacon is left.
I say 24hrs because i found it when i logged on and visited again roughly the same time next day. Anyone else have the same?
I approached such a beacon. Nearby another unidentified structure with no beacon.
Locked the unidentified structure. Shoot at it. A bright light was all what happens at the hit.
Stayed additional 5 minutes there - just bored.
Suddenly 5 sleeper drones around me and ... the unidentified structure I shooted at was gone...
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ollobrains
Kaboom i Own You
Mamrvelous Dahling
6
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:21:23 -
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upon visiting the new eden system there is a US present with the usual 4 cardican. however nothing else of interest has apeared in that system. No change in the collapsed wormhole statis, and the only wormhole ther today led to low sec, yesterday after the new sleepers and their cloaked strucutre appeared it was null sec |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
800
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Posted - 2014.12.11 11:28:07 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:Now, that's somehow what I observed.
My journey startet in Muer/Everyshore, I scanned for the new scattered Wormholes and found one. I am sure there has been an Unidentified Structure in Muer when I entered the scattered Wormhole.
Once inside the wormhole the entry quickly collapsed but a new connection to Yeder/Tash Murkon opened - and in Yeder there is an Unidentified Structure.
I rushed back to Muer - no Unidentified Structure.
Somehow I feel like those structures mark entry systems to the shattered wormholes.
Unfortunately I've seen some systems (Leremplombes as an example) having an Unidentified Structure but no signatures at all.
Maybe the implication is that they "travel" using those wormholes? |
Samsara Toldya
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
170
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:18:23 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Maybe the implication is that they "travel" using those wormholes?
I think so.
If those structures can be used as cynos to establish focused wormhole connections (instead of randomly spawning without knowing where it will end) I'm curious to find out whether Sansha Kuvakei found out how to use/access them long ago or not.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7315
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:23:37 -
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My theory, the events are connected obviously:
Unidentified cloacked structures are Jove research labs.
Sansha, who build wormhole generator, stole the crucial informations from Jove, who earlier stumbled upon it in their hidden stations researching Talocan ruins in New Eden,
Sansha know now that their secret system lies in ruins. That was Caroline's star. Thats why they stopped incursions and used gates, their base is in ruins.
Caroline's Star is event similar to Seylin 5 incident.
Caroline's Star was Sansha base, located in wormhole opened always by Sansha wormhole generator, and it was used as their secret military base of great significanse. Probably system was even bigger than Thera. With a lot of fuel stored for wormhole generator. It blowed up on accident or was blowed up by someone intentionally.
Communication with Thera that is near it, was stopped by the explosion.
Talocans knew how to open wormholes as passage to other worlds (I think that because they were masters in noneuclidean mathematics), to shorten the path to the systems that are very far away. Every event like Seylin accident accidentally creates passages to systems where Talocans journeyed by wormhole generator in ancient times, and where abandoned mechanisms or ruins still point.
Seekers, knowing that new wormholes were created, knowing that they can be attacked from more sides, started gathering intel, some stubled upon the failing Jove structures.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7315
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:28:09 -
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Double post.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Elena Morin'staal
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.12.11 13:09:36 -
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Seekers are part of the Jove - Templar One shows that a Jove faction entered a VR world where they were easily able to reach singularity, and the sleepers were derived from the architects to maintain the bodies whilst they slept. |
SvasTTT
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
9
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Posted - 2014.12.11 13:12:53 -
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Not sure if noticed before or if at all relevant.
Found a unidentified structure in a lowsec system, scanned down a WH in this system to a W-space system (not shattered). In this wormhole was only 1 other wormhole (other than the one I entered through) to yet another Lowsec system, but this system ALSO had an unidentified structure.
Curiosity at least |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7316
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Posted - 2014.12.11 13:19:50 -
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Elena Morin'staal wrote:Seekers are part of the Jove - Templar One shows that a Jove faction entered a VR world where they were easily able to reach singularity, and the sleepers were derived from the architects to maintain the bodies whilst they slept.
My theory:
Yes, but their ways splitted, Sleepers journeyed in generational ships to systems abandoned earlier by Talocans. There Sleepers studied Talocan tech. Jove studied Talocan New Eden tech, both races did not made generators until Sansha come and as a genius, he made it using Jove data and he may used the Sleeper components also. Probably there were parts of knowledge that were so shattered, that he needed both.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7316
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Posted - 2014.12.11 13:25:27 -
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SvasTTT wrote:Not sure if noticed before or if at all relevant.
Found a unidentified structure in a lowsec system, scanned down a WH in this system to a W-space system (not shattered). In this wormhole was only 1 other wormhole (other than the one I entered through) to yet another Lowsec system, but this system ALSO had an unidentified structure.
Curiosity at least
Systems where Jove were experimenting with wormhole generation, somehow wormhole points to the place, where talocan machines are located to this day.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
224
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Posted - 2014.12.11 16:24:03 -
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Anyone tried bumping a Sleeper and keep bumping it?
I tried bumping the structure. Bumped it, then my computer overheated and shut down on me. It was terrifying. I blame the lightning bolts... and an old dirty computer.
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ˝
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Igor DeathPunch
Viziam
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:00:22 -
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I recall an event back in 2005/2006 where a jovian had an accident and everyone ended up with a bit of jovian DNA...
what if that is what they are after?
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Cahir Ceallach
Jeb z Dzidy
Northern Associates.
5
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:44:30 -
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Its not Jove.
Sleeper is guardians of Talocan ancient race place, Talocan left sleeper drones to guard path to therr new homeworlds.
Cloaking structure?
The Talocan were, judging from the remains of Talocan technology found in the archaeological record, masters of Spatial Manipulation and Hypereuclidean Mathematics. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5487
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Posted - 2014.12.12 13:33:29 -
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Well, I just got a visit from a pair of Cricadian Seekers while mining in a belt. They scanned some asteroids, one scanned empty space, then they scanned some more asteroids and warped off when someone else warped in. I was mining Scordite. They scanned Scordite. Guess they are analysing Capsuleer behaviour.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
139
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Posted - 2014.12.12 13:43:11 -
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Anybody tried to jettison something into space while drones are on grid? No, i don't mean hookers.
Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears.
I am the night. I'm Bantam.
More exploration in exploration
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
459
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Posted - 2014.12.12 13:55:54 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Anybody tried to jettison something into space while drones are on grid? No, i don't mean hookers.
At this point, I think the only thing that hasn't been tried is somebody throwing snowballs at them.
Vote Sabriz!
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2014.12.12 15:27:03 -
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Did use Snowball Launcher on both Sleepers and the Structure. On Sisi, a week ago though, they might have added responce later... or not.
I keep searching for Shattered WH systems, hope there might be clues. Heard about Sansha WHs, havent yet been to one. All Sleeper WHs now seem to have an Epicenter celestial. They didnt have those on Sisi pre-Rhea launch (testing things that are implied not to work right is so much fun).
Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc.
Two Rogue Drone Mothers
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
412
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Posted - 2014.12.12 18:42:57 -
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I'm in Sigga at the moment parked up against one no sleepers the shape is like a huge tower
You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
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Erin Crawford
370
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Posted - 2014.12.12 18:50:10 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Jeremiah Saken wrote:Anybody tried to jettison something into space while drones are on grid? No, i don't mean hookers. At this point, I think the only thing that hasn't been tried is somebody throwing snowballs at them.
I bet that'll be the snowball that triggers the avalanche of doom - the impending apocalypse.
...just had to! 
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2014.12.12 19:51:14 -
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Did anyone try locking down sleepers at position ...
... and waiting until a new spawn appears? |
Anslo
Scope Works
Psychotic Tendencies.
24514
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Posted - 2014.12.12 19:53:12 -
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Let them scan you with a Jove body part or complex fullerene shard.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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S3ND3TH
Czerka.
7
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Posted - 2014.12.12 22:37:43 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Why everyoen keep saying jovians? There is nothign to support that, they are likely dead and gone. These are clearly romulans!
Templar One explains it. From the words of a dead Jovian AI the sleepers were Jove and were suspected of spreading the Jovian Plague. |
S3ND3TH
Czerka.
7
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Posted - 2014.12.12 22:39:57 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:Aiyshimin wrote:My (humble) research supports the theory of these structures being somehow linked to wormholes in the same system. It is also possible that the structure persists in a system after the wormhole connection has died (of age or by players collapsing it). I'm curious if those structures may act like a cyno to shattered wormhole connections enableing them to establish a K162 into known space... some kind of lightning conductor... only working while their cloaking device is having a malfunction. If we can't interact with them there should be another reason for them to exist... won't be decoration only.
Thats an interesting idea. Maybe one of these sites means there is a wh into Thera in that system or nearby. |
S3ND3TH
Czerka.
7
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Posted - 2014.12.12 22:47:49 -
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Elena Morin'staal wrote:Seekers are part of the Jove - Templar One shows that a Jove faction entered a VR world where they were easily able to reach singularity, and the sleepers were derived from the architects to maintain the bodies whilst they slept.
And as Templar One also explains, the construct that the sleepers live in has a rule that a being can only exist in there if it has a real body out here. When the Dust 514 implants are taken, it kills the sleeper in their vr world. There is only one being that can exist in the construct without a physical body and that being has possessed empress Sarum of the Amarr. I also wonder if the being that has implanted itself in the Amarr empress is the broker. I thought the broker was originally a capsuleer but I don't remember if the first book actually said that or implied it. There is obviously something different about the broker since he can run multiple copies of himself at once. |
Numen Anomalie
Evedustry Inc.
Kadeshians
1
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:11:54 -
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Okej update. for the structure. One spawned in NUl sec and it sits there for a few days now.
We have tried everything we could think of it.
Our corp tried all modules possible on it, scanners, neuts, webs, in decent quantities (over 20 ships at a time) everything u can imagine. Nothing did anything
It is indeed a targetable structure with no cargo, etc all the things already posted above. Not bumpable with large ships. it decloaks you and you cannot cloak next to it.
So far, we believe it is just a lore object in place for a future patch.
For the dudes flying around scanning, they actually entered one of our POS at some point, scanned the tower and warped out (read, they entered the bloody POS shield). Dont know if that was suppose to happen though.
Flying towards it in a cov ops cloak obviously applies the rule of decloaking due to range, but the scanners that hit didnt seem to decloak the blops ship before the actual range like anything would.
They drop no loot but scrap metal, can be shot, but seem to be harmless drones any way else.
Summary: a waste of time for now. Play eve you guys and wait for these to be properly implemented.
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Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
2
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Posted - 2014.12.13 00:59:13 -
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Odds are, I would say, that these structures aren't actually entirely in our frame of space. If these are talocan structures, and they were the masters of spacial manipulation, then it's possible that what we see are the 'echoes' of some kind of remote link. Anyone tried hitting them with gravametric ECM/ECCM to see what happens?
*Looks up the page a little.* Hmm.
Anyone tried taking sleeper materials to it? Or jove bitz? |
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