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Serapis Aote
TBC
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:23:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Fire Giant
Well it wasnt me but it was a friend of mine. I find it pretty LAME that 3 guys attack a retriever mining without any warning or ransom request. Podding him was really just classless.
Now I know in 0.4 space this is allowed so no "rules" were broken but have a little class and tact if you wish to do this. It was a retriever for gods sake and its not like he was going to fire back. You want to kill him...fine but at least try some sort of communication first to at least give him a chance to try and pay his way out. And he was podded to boot.
Like I said it was fair game but you might as well just shot a guy in a wheelchair, in the back trying to get away. 
While not a fan of pirates myself, what do you expect in .4. Ransoms are rare given how easy it is for players now to fit WCS and escape. The chances of getting ransomed these days are slim.
The only problem i really have with low sec empire as it stands now is that the rewards need to be increased given the risk. For mining and mission running you dont make much more in low sec then you could in empire. The belt ratting is not even close to comparable with the money you could make doing other things in high sec.
Just bump the rewards to make low sec offer more rewards to reflect just how dangerous it is.
To be honest low sec empire is the most dangerous area in the game by far and that includes all the 0.0 entrances. At least you can see the gate camps on the choke points.
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Ozawi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:28:00 -
[32]
So I took my little rifter with most of my total net worth in components loaded into it into 0.3 last night to see if I could handle the NPC rat spawns. Had a decent enough tank to fend them off and good enough guns/skills to kill them.
A playarr warped into the belt while I was finishing the last of three rats that I was fighting. He was nice enough to sit and wait til I killed off the last rat. (he was close enough to already scramble me, I had no stabs) - we both knew he was going to obliterate me. I tipped my hat to him afterwards - I knew the risk I was taking by messing around in 0.3
I've been playing just over two weeks. I lost probably 75% of my net worth (man, I mean almost *all* of the comps were destroyed in the explosion, only ammo was left in my cargo can).
It's a PvP game. That's the not-safe zone. You expect to be attacked in there. If you're not outfitted for heavy combat, with skills trained up to go with it, you can expect to die. Might be sooner, might be later. Chances are - it's sooner.
Hopefully in a couple/few months, I'll have enough ISK and skills trained up to realistically put up a fight in lowsec. I certainly don't expect anyone to take it easy on me, give me a warning, a head start, hold my hand, powder my bum, change my diaper, and sing me a lullaby to send me off. And I'll be a better player for it, once I have that experience of *not* having been a ponce in lowsec.
Seems like your friend would want to develop the skills as a player to be able to compete in EVE. Being given a get out of jail free card, when he had to have known he was doing something foolhardy (mining in lowsec with no backup, and it sounds like no stabs), certainly won't help him become a better player.
If your friend wants to mine in lowsec, he should consider joining a corp that does mining ops and can provide security, or learn to do ninja mining with a disposable frigate.
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mikerem
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:31:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Karoth Tyu
The reason why you... err, your friend, got popped is because
B) Your friend probably wouldn't have paid ransom anyway, like 95% of other people who are ransomed.
Well, maybe not so much C, but the reason many pirates don't bother ransoming these days is because most people have got it in their head "Oh well they'll kill me anyway, so I'm not going to pay."
And one wonders were they got that idea from 
The ebil cool pirats that want there cookie and eat it too, that were 
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Filan Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:42:00 -
[34]
lets just say if i know a system i have to go through is .4 i check the map but its not like i dont know its likely to be camped.
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Otangka
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:48:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Ozawi
So I took my little rifter with most of my total net worth in components loaded into it into 0.3 last night to see if I could handle the NPC rat spawns. Had a decent enough tank to fend them off and good enough guns/skills to kill them.
A playarr warped into the belt while I was finishing the last of three rats that I was fighting. He was nice enough to sit and wait til I killed off the last rat. (he was close enough to already scramble me, I had no stabs) - we both knew he was going to obliterate me. I tipped my hat to him afterwards - I knew the risk I was taking by messing around in 0.3
I've been playing just over two weeks. I lost probably 75% of my net worth (man, I mean almost *all* of the comps were destroyed in the explosion, only ammo was left in my cargo can).
It's a PvP game. That's the not-safe zone. You expect to be attacked in there. If you're not outfitted for heavy combat, with skills trained up to go with it, you can expect to die. Might be sooner, might be later. Chances are - it's sooner.
Hopefully in a couple/few months, I'll have enough ISK and skills trained up to realistically put up a fight in lowsec. I certainly don't expect anyone to take it easy on me, give me a warning, a head start, hold my hand, powder my bum, change my diaper, and sing me a lullaby to send me off. And I'll be a better player for it, once I have that experience of *not* having been a ponce in lowsec.
Seems like your friend would want to develop the skills as a player to be able to compete in EVE. Being given a get out of jail free card, when he had to have known he was doing something foolhardy (mining in lowsec with no backup, and it sounds like no stabs), certainly won't help him become a better player.
If your friend wants to mine in lowsec, he should consider joining a corp that does mining ops and can provide security, or learn to do ninja mining with a disposable frigate.
Thats the spirit, my dear friend, please OP read this carefully and learn from it
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:17:00 -
[36]
Victim: fire giant's friend
Alliance: none
Corp: 78th Conglomerate Corp.
Destroyed: Retriever
System: some low-sec system
Security: 0.4
Involved parties:
Name: Charles Darwin (laid the final blow)
Security: -10.0
Alliance: none
Corp: Darwin's griefing corp
Ship: The Beagle
Weapon: Darwinism
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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lofty29
Gallente
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:20:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Was probably the roid liberation movement.
They saw those poor defenseless roids being ganked and came to the rescue.
They are Hero's
Protecting
Innocent
Roids
And
Their
Environment
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. 
I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg
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Skawl
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:36:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Skawl on 07/09/2006 16:38:41
Originally by: Jim McGregor
What do you suggest the danger in 0.4 should be instead?
Don't you know anything? proper lowsec etiquete demands fluffy wuffy bunnys are dispenced to everyone you see.
Oh, and Ozawi - keep up that attitude and you'll go far... nice to see newcomers who actually understand the whole ' it's not safe to fly here but worth the rewards if you have the sphericals for it' thing.
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:40:00 -
[39]
Hmmm...
Flying alone
In Lowsec
In a ship that SCREAMS "I use strip miners!"
And you wonder why he got popped?
C'mon dude... getting popped in low-sec isn't much fun but if you're going there you should expect to die eventually.
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"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - Gen. George S. Patton
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Dummy Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:46:00 -
[40]
Class in low sec.. BHAHAHAA now there is a good one!
There are people in BS sniping shuttles and newbfrigs, why? so they can have another statistic on their precious killboard (and because they prolly don't have a social life to speak of and need this to feel 'respected')
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:48:00 -
[41]
Originally by: 000Hunter000
because they prolly don't have a social life to speak of and need this to feel 'respected')
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Ozawi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 16:49:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Skawl
Edited by: Skawl on 07/09/2006 16:38:41
Originally by: Jim McGregor
What do you suggest the danger in 0.4 should be instead?
Don't you know anything? proper lowsec etiquete demands fluffy wuffy bunnys are dispenced to everyone you see.
Oh, and Ozawi - keep up that attitude and you'll go far... nice to see newcomers who actually understand the whole ' it's not safe to fly here but worth the rewards if you have the sphericals for it' thing.
Heh, thankya.
The way I see it is, that even though I lost money overall (yeah ship was insured, but comps are expensive for a newbie!) - it was a net gain in the end. Wiped a few 65k pirates, learned that my setup/skills could handle them (and how best to orbit them to minimize damage taken), reinforced the lesson that WCS are life savers if you're not geared for full on PvP, and added one more name to my list to watch out for if they enter local.
All that has to be worth at least as much as the ISK would've been just idly sitting around in Empire. ;)
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Metis AT
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:15:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Ozawi
So I took my little rifter with most of my total net worth in components loaded into it into 0.3 last night to see if I could handle the NPC rat spawns. Had a decent enough tank to fend them off and good enough guns/skills to kill them.
A playarr warped into the belt while I was finishing the last of three rats that I was fighting. He was nice enough to sit and wait til I killed off the last rat. (he was close enough to already scramble me, I had no stabs) - we both knew he was going to obliterate me. I tipped my hat to him afterwards - I knew the risk I was taking by messing around in 0.3
I've been playing just over two weeks. I lost probably 75% of my net worth (man, I mean almost *all* of the comps were destroyed in the explosion, only ammo was left in my cargo can).
It's a PvP game. That's the not-safe zone. You expect to be attacked in there. If you're not outfitted for heavy combat, with skills trained up to go with it, you can expect to die. Might be sooner, might be later. Chances are - it's sooner.
Hopefully in a couple/few months, I'll have enough ISK and skills trained up to realistically put up a fight in lowsec. I certainly don't expect anyone to take it easy on me, give me a warning, a head start, hold my hand, powder my bum, change my diaper, and sing me a lullaby to send me off. And I'll be a better player for it, once I have that experience of *not* having been a ponce in lowsec.
Seems like your friend would want to develop the skills as a player to be able to compete in EVE. Being given a get out of jail free card, when he had to have known he was doing something foolhardy (mining in lowsec with no backup, and it sounds like no stabs), certainly won't help him become a better player.
If your friend wants to mine in lowsec, he should consider joining a corp that does mining ops and can provide security, or learn to do ninja mining with a disposable frigate.
^ more players like this please...less players like the original poster.
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Vanlade
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:24:00 -
[44]
The point is not that he was killed in 0.4 space.
The point is that it was in the cheap way, without starting a conversation and asking for ransom.
If the pirates wanted the loot only, then why kill the pod as well? At least ransom the pod first.
- Vanlade
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Tar Ecthelion
Kryomek Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:25:00 -
[45]
I hate thread s like this, mods should just lock em down from start to avoid all this bickering.
Low sec is dangerous, dont go there not expecting to get attacked.
In EVE, you are safe nowhere, learn to live by this rule and you'll do just fine, ignore it and you'll pay the price eventually.
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"When you kill a man it costs nothing to be polite"
Winston Churchill
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Vanlade
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:28:00 -
[46]
Your bad experience is not due to game mechanics, but due to how some players have choosen to kill you without ransom and without roleplaying.
- Vanlade
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Wotar
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:28:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Calprimus
Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Calprimus
Like any PvP games, this also is a magnet for any kind of psycho kids hitting when they can.
seriously u idiots need to stop stereotyping people. Its rediculous and makes your point seem retarded in comparison. when you open with a statement like this your post loses all credibility.
Here, get a cookie.
wtf does that mean? He is right. Stop making a fool of yourself.
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Horatio Nately
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:39:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Horatio Nately on 07/09/2006 17:42:06
Edited by: Horatio Nately on 07/09/2006 17:39:54
I love how people go into low sec and expect NOT to be hunted.
if I saw a retriever on scanner I'd probably wet myself and hunt it down too.
Ever consider helping out your friend and mounting several corpmates for a mining op?
(which has an equal chance of getting ganked tbh lol)
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Zed Hound
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:41:00 -
[49]
awwww muffin
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:51:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Fire Giant
Well it wasnt me but it was a friend of mine. I find it pretty LAME that 3 guys attack a retriever mining without any warning or ransom request. Podding him was really just classless.
Now I know in 0.4 space this is allowed so no "rules" were broken but have a little class and tact if you wish to do this. It was a retriever for gods sake and its not like he was going to fire back. You want to kill him...fine but at least try some sort of communication first to at least give him a chance to try and pay his way out. And he was podded to boot.
Like I said it was fair game but you might as well just shot a guy in a wheelchair, in the back trying to get away.
ill give a go on podding u whitout waringing if i find you :P
and thats for makeing this stupid post.... low sec... dangerous... ppl die....QQ
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:55:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Vanlade
The point is not that he was killed in 0.4 space.
The point is that it was in the cheap way, without starting a conversation and asking for ransom.
If the pirates wanted the loot only, then why kill the pod as well? At least ransom the pod first.
People play this game for different reasons, thats what makes it so interesting.
Its about time that buble of yours gets bursted.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Calprimus
Originally by: Garia666
Edited by: Garia666 on 07/09/2006 14:43:25
i know how you feel
Just see it like this . .
You come out of Juvenile school and its your first week in junior collage.
Its so shocking at first ..
Drugs, Sex, Fighting, and even bully`s
Lol Garia, what kind of college did you attend?
my kind 
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:14:00 -
[53]
Oh dear.
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Halet Cu
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:16:00 -
[54]
Don't feel bad, I was ganked in .5 space in a covetor.
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:28:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Vanlade
Your bad experience is not due to game mechanics, but due to how some players have choosen to kill you without ransom and without roleplaying.
And what do you expect? "parlay?"
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One of the things my corp does on a regular basis, is setting up bait traps for local pirates. Have a miner out there (with scramblers and other nasty modules) and pretend to be innocently mining. A pirate that ransoms is gonna get blown to bits. heck even if he doesn't ransom, we're gonna blow him to bits.
Expecting them to hang around any longer than it takes for them to get the kill and loot the can is pretty naive.
"Get the gank, loot the can, and get the hell outta there" - that's what we consider to be a pretty smart pirate.
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Lumel
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:31:00 -
[56]
I was uh.. suicided on in .5 space in a Retriever. Some guy in a caracal with thermal missiles and standard missile launchers.. I just knew from his approach that he was going to fire, but I had a smallish tank that still survived enough for CONCORD to teach him the error of his ways.
I still chuckle at that. Kinetic heavies would have blown me up, but thermal standards?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:35:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Vanlade
Your bad experience is not due to game mechanics, but due to how some players have choosen to kill you without ransom and without roleplaying.
They were roleplaying mute pirates. Pirates kill people and take their stuff, mutes can't talk... ergo no ransom :)
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Gothikia
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:38:00 -
[58]
all i can do is laugh...
so haha
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Wanoah
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:48:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Fire Giant
Well it wasnt me but it was a friend of mine. I find it pretty LAME that 3 guys attack a retriever mining without any warning or ransom request. Podding him was really just classless.
Now I know in 0.4 space this is allowed so no "rules" were broken but have a little class and tact if you wish to do this. It was a retriever for gods sake and its not like he was going to fire back. You want to kill him...fine but at least try some sort of communication first to at least give him a chance to try and pay his way out. And he was podded to boot.
Like I said it was fair game but you might as well just shot a guy in a wheelchair, in the back trying to get away.
Welcome to Eve. It's tough out there...
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I M'Aspy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:54:00 -
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If I had 1 isk for every time we get one of these "OMG I was in 0.2 mining alone in my barge and someone podded me WTF!!!1!111!!" posts, I'd be flying around in a Titan right now.
Welcome to EVE, dry your eyes, hug a tree and in 12 months it'll be you doing the podding. |
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