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zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:06:00 - [61] Originally by: DB Preacher Hmmm, Can we get an honest update on the situation as it stands? Thanks, dbp ingame.
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:07:00 - [62] Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 08/09/2006 13:07:58 what zool said Now Recruiting
Player One Minmatar Die wilde 13	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:09:00 - [63] Originally by: Tar Kovsky Our Gallente friends are working around the clock to immortalize this struggle in one of the classical holovid styles. Here, for your enjoyment, is an early scene. Go UK. p1
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:09:00 - [64] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Audrea Honestly why is everyone acting surprised at ISS actions? They lost their neutrality the day they took over EC-P8R outpost. I am not surprised any bit. The excuse of them being pirates is weak one.. one thing is to attack pirates in skirmishes etc, but attacking them on contested space etc is agressive action, and not defence against piracy. Besides, how do you know they intend to stay pirates? usually when pirate would settle down (in eve case, thats claiming sovreignty, deploying POS etc) that means he most likely to quit being pirate, otherwise he wouldnt be claiming static space, as pirates roam, they dont live in one area. If your excuse is real (defending trade route to the outposts), why do you not go attacking FIX, BoB and AAA who hold the route through Efa, then 9CG, 4-07MU and then catch to the outpost? Those entities also operate NBSI, and disrupt potential trading route Let me guess.. afraid to attack entities which actually can bite back quite hard? Thought so. Thank you for sharing your epiphany regarding the pirates currently fighting UK in Providence. I look forward to the Establishment and friends becoming full blown industrialists, how many mining drones can one get going on the Nyx now? Once again you do yourself and your alliance proud with your insightful post and it makes me sad that we don't share an alliance tag because of this. Not surprising me you cant seperate personal views from alliance views. well you never did... Anyway obviously they arent going to start mining with Nyx, lol. But still that doesnt mean they are contesting the station to have base to attack ISS. Anyhow, personally i am not sure having minmatar terrorists nearby is better than pirates.. Oh and if you believe pirates aren't gonna take space to become industrialists etc, then I wonder what made you nap TSDS back when they were suppose to claim Querious so long ago (think it was on the first offensive? or was it the second?). Otherwise why have you agreed back then to let active pirates settle down on the new borders with Huzzah? Unless of you changed your mind about pirates ability to stop pirating once they claim space? ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:09:00 - [65] Originally by: Wild Rho I was very suprised to see veto named amoung the corps involved. Why? IIRC, Veto do take on the occasional contract, as do most pirate corps. Also have a safe haven for conducting 0.0 piracy is always a bonus. Nate. -------- www.bydi.org - Mercanaries for Hire
MOS DEF Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:13:00 - [66] Originally by: DB Preacher Hmmm, Can we get an honest update on the situation as it stands? Thanks, dbp This is eve-o. There is no facts to be found here.
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:14:00 - [67] Originally by: Sykosys Heh some people who talk about RP fail to realize that this is not the intergalatic summit. The Amarr will get whats comming to them eventually as that is the only way our fellow brothers and sisters will be freed. (This is what I would have posted if this was the intergalatic summit, but well its not LOL) Pirates wish to control unity. We will do all we can to stop them. Besides Veto have already felt the might of the Smartbombing phoon They thought it was quite funny, nothing like 6 inties vs 1 phoon all close range. What a tempting easy target. Only to find as soon as everyone was under 5k well how quickly inties die to 7 large smartbombs. Ahem This attack has been ongoing for the last 2 months. Now they are beggining their big push for UNITY. We are pushing back with our allies help. Sorry if we dissapointed you all by actually standing up and fight. We will not lose what we have strived so hard to create. Doesnt matter if its the ingame section or not, this forum lacks drama Anyway, only death will free the uneducated slaves, they are needed to do their job. So, you got couple inties with smartbombing phoon.. buuhhu, wow - must have had insurance running out Keep wasting your resources for a lost cause ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Kalil d'Maelstromo The Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:16:00 - [68] Was a fun night and may the fun continue! Drive-by's at Unity Station, a chance to see the mating rituals of Med Bubbles at the ZQ gate and Lataro leading a gang. Excellent. Was glad to be in constant alignment witha celestial body when the 8 or so frigs descended on me with fighters. Needless to say I laughed when I landed in a bubble. Ah fun fun fun and no ship losses so far for me. Was fun being a fleet with competant pilots and negligible smack levels for the duration I was on 1pm-2am. Almost as much fun as the assumptions being bandied about in this thread. Fly safe y'all o/ ************************ Originally by:** Deb Loblaw Anybody who demands a reach around is just a greedy bastich, if you ask me. If you wanted satisfaction, you should have been on top.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:18:00 - [69] Originally by: zoolkhan Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/09/2006 13:09:23 We cannot broadcast the tactical details here You may want to use secured channels. Surely you could give an honest opinion of the hostile forces arrayed against you and what they are up to without comprimising your own tactical abilities? dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:22:00 - [70] ...the number of animated emoticons within a single post are believed to be placeholders for grey matter growing together with the size and the age of a poster. Some scientists believe that it is only connected to the age of a poster, others believe it has to do with the biorythm and alcohol-percentage in the blood of a poster. however, this science tree needs further development : -) U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:26:00 - [71] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: zoolkhan Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/09/2006 13:09:23 We cannot broadcast the tactical details here You may want to use secured channels. Surely you could give an honest opinion of the hostile forces arrayed against you and what they are up to without comprimising your own tactical abilities? dbp Put it this way... you can't safely deploy dreads (they have 7) against hardened large arty based Deathstars without locking a system down first. They don't have the numbers to lock a 5 gate system down. If they deployed the dreads again there is a very good chance they would lose at least some of them. I don't see this going anywhere to be honest, but it's certainly interesting to watch.
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:28:00 - [72] Edited by: Wild Rho on 08/09/2006 13:29:05 Originally by: EvilNate Originally by: Wild Rho I was very suprised to see veto named amoung the corps involved. Why? IIRC, Veto do take on the occasional contract, as do most pirate corps. Also have a safe haven for conducting 0.0 piracy is always a bonus. Nate. Long story short as far as I knew Veto was hostile to everyone except snigg and that was it. Hearing they are also doing merc work is a bit of a suprise, that's all. WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
Sykosys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:32:00 - [73] Edited by: Sykosys on 08/09/2006 13:33:22 Woah double post weird
Sykosys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:32:00 - [74] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: zoolkhan Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/09/2006 13:09:23 We cannot broadcast the tactical details here You may want to use secured channels. Surely you could give an honest opinion of the hostile forces arrayed against you and what they are up to without comprimising your own tactical abilities? dbp It would seem they are intent on taking unity. They have reported 6-7 dreads with carrier support. They seem to be concentrating on bubbling the 4b gate and zq gates. Mostly roaming inty gangs with mix of sniping and short range BS. And the NYX is supporting fighters as well. They have deployed 5 towers (that we are aware of, scouting is commencing as this attack continues) They are contesting sov as we speak. You get the message of this as you try to set your clone to unity station. More info as it develops. . .
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:38:00 - [75] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: zoolkhan Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/09/2006 13:09:23 We cannot broadcast the tactical details here You may want to use secured channels. Surely you could give an honest opinion of the hostile forces arrayed against you and what they are up to without comprimising your own tactical abilities? dbp Well i can tell you so far: - we dont underestimate them, we see them as seerious treats - the smack in local is civil - fights ongoing 24/7 - both sides apply everything from shuttle up to dreadnought given the circumstances i am proud of the alliance i am in and i will remain proud of it even if we shall lose. of course that will not happen because only the good shall prevail. (john wayne and marshal dillon always win) local showes numbers up to 200 at times :) U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:39:00 - [76] Thanks kindly. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:55:00 - [77] Even with all those allies/corp/alliance they couldnt take out the UK system...? I thought the end was inevitable... maybe not
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.09.08 13:56:00 - [78] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 08/09/2006 13:58:36 Its a pity KIA just accepted a new contract..... Slapping these pirates on behalf of an Alliance like UK, would of been right down KIAs street. I wander if MC are busy right now...... xx KIA Piccys
Lord Spidey Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:24:00 - [79] Originally by: Vandervecken Smith Originally by: Lord Spidey Edited by: Lord Spidey on 08/09/2006 05:44:06 99% of the entire south may be napped with each other but we stand by those who have the courage and wherewithal to usher in change to the region hopefully for the better but either way we by those who know how to have fun without napping all their possible opponents. Hilarious There are four large alliances in the south: ASCN (4900 members), AXE (1400 members), KOS (2100 members) and LV (2600 members), not to mention -V- (1000 members) and CHIMP (500 members), all of whome seem to be fairly friendly with each other. Yet your grand coalition of pirates chooses to attack Ushra'Khan (300 members), a considerably weaker power in the region. It's pretty obvious you're just out for what you can get, can't argue with that, it's all fair in war. But the implication of a higher moral stand in this campaign is laughable. Certainy the idea that you're trying to bust up the south. You're just looking for an excuse to take what you didn't make, let's not pretend it's anything different. I am not sure where you get your facts but I am more than happy to correct you. - MoM is not part of any "grand coalition of pirates" - MoM is not out to take any space or "anything we can get" at this time and will not be relocating to Providence even if thes tation does fall - MoM has decided to assist in the campaign against UK because there will be fun fights and people like ISS will come to assist them meaning UK is actually fielding MORE than 300 people thusly providing MORE fights - We arent trying to bust up the south no idea where you pulled this from besides out of thin air - We dont need excuses to take what we didnt make as we arent trying to take anything. Next time if you would like to make an informed post feel free to convo me first and get your facts. Enjoy
Pylse Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:30:00 - [80] Edited by: Pylse on 08/09/2006 14:30:48 The next person suggesting we will become industrialists after (if at all) taking the Station will have a 1.4m wide projectile filled with "fusion" projected at super-sonic speed aimed towards the greater of his nostrils. For those of you that can't be arsed to do the math, that would be (roughly) 1 thousand litres of what happens inside the sun. That's a lot for one (even the greater) nostril to cope with =P Anywhichway, this does look like it could become increasingly interesting =D
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.08 14:51:00 - [81] Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Hans Roaming Thank you for sharing your epiphany regarding the pirates currently fighting UK in Providence. I look forward to the Establishment and friends becoming full blown industrialists, how many mining drones can one get going on the Nyx now? Once again you do yourself and your alliance proud with your insightful post and it makes me sad that we don't share an alliance tag because of this. Not surprising me you cant seperate personal views from alliance views. well you never did... Yup you're right there once again, it's good that these forums get to benefit from your insights. Originally by: Audrea Anyway obviously they arent going to start mining with Nyx, lol. But still that doesnt mean they are contesting the station to have base to attack ISS. Anyhow, personally i am not sure having minmatar terrorists nearby is better than pirates.. Well from the point of NOS who I think are shooty shooty to Ushra Khan then maybe not, to ISS who are blue with Ushra Khan then it makes one huge difference to have friends 2 jumps from one of your outposts than enemies. And really this is what it's about, what is the motivation for ISS to get involved. Sure you have keeping friendlies nearby but also because ISS Navy is made up of pvpers and well having things to shoot is always a good thing. Also bagging that NYX would be soooooo sweet, why wouldn't anyone go for that. Originally by: Audrea Oh and if you believe pirates aren't gonna take space to become industrialists etc, then I wonder what made you nap TSDS back when they were suppose to claim Querious so long ago (think it was on the first offensive? or was it the second?). Otherwise why have you agreed back then to let active pirates settle down on the new borders with Huzzah? Unless of you changed your mind about pirates ability to stop pirating once they claim space? Well TSDS are not Establishment for one, TSDS have been part of SA at one point and how do you know they were not there just for the fight? Personally from what I know of these guys, if they in thier thirty seven person alliance have to fuel large POS indefinatly, they would go mad. If UK loose this station they could probably wait a month and take it right back again as everyone would have left from boredom. Oh and you also have the following which suggests I could be on the right track: Originally by: Pylse The next person suggesting we will become industrialists after (if at all) taking the Station will have a 1.4m wide projectile filled with "fusion" projected at super-sonic speed aimed towards the greater of his nostrils. So you going to start arguing with him now?
Manic Mole Keepers of the Holy Bagel	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:15:00 - [82] this topic makes me sad I left provedence if anything I say offends, so what?
Audrea Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:32:00 - [83] Originally by: Hans Originally by: Audrea Anyway obviously they arent going to start mining with Nyx, lol. But still that doesnt mean they are contesting the station to have base to attack ISS. Anyhow, personally i am not sure having minmatar terrorists nearby is better than pirates.. Well from the point of NOS who I think are shooty shooty to Ushra Khan then maybe not, to ISS who are blue with Ushra Khan then it makes one huge difference to have friends 2 jumps from one of your outposts than enemies. And really this is what it's about, what is the motivation for ISS to get involved. Sure you have keeping friendlies nearby but also because ISS Navy is made up of pvpers and well having things to shoot is always a good thing. Also bagging that NYX would be soooooo sweet, why wouldn't anyone go for that. Well thats fine and good, but point is, ISS dont just send pvpers for skirmishes.. they actually intervene in another conflict for territorial contesting. Quote: So you going to start arguing with him now? Laughing No, its obvious they will not, however the point is, ISS doesnt know for 100% certainity that THEY will be the next target to be sieged. Sure, if ISS was just another alliance like the rest, that wouldnt be exceptional, but they claim to be neutrals. I mean, attacking pirates randomly is one thing and is fine, but intervening in another conflict? no matter how close it is, that means they arent that neutral, cause as I said they cant be sure that EST and the others will turn on ISS outposts next. Originally by: Hans Well TSDS are not Establishment for one, TSDS have been part of SA at one point and how do you know they were not there just for the fight? Wink Personally from what I know of these guys, if they in thier thirty seven person alliance have to fuel large POS indefinatly, they would go mad. If UK loose this station they could probably wait a month and take it right back again as everyone would have left from boredom. All true, its also possible they deployed 5bil in towers just to get some decent pvp But yeah I agree about the POS fuel bull.. not very interstin part of the game, although I imagine fueling them with Nyx should be very easy hehe, she can jump like 6 industrials at once, thats enough fuel for all 5 towers ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:37:00 - [84] Audrea sometimes i think you got the short end of the stick. Nah im actually wrong , Audrea you got the short end of the stick. With Love from Al Haquis
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Lord Spidey there will be fun fights and people like ISS will come to assist them meaning UK is actually fielding MORE than 300 people thusly providing MORE fights - We arent trying to bust up the south no idea where you pulled this from besides out of thin air - We dont need excuses to take what we didnt make as we arent trying to take anything. This is Male Cattle Remainders - Twisting facts. Defending is by nature a re-active action. Would EST have remained alone, we would not have called in for help, its always bad for the EGO if you realize, you simply cant manage the situation alone. So we did start calling allies, when we ran out of other options. No second earlier. And still, we seem outnumbered in total. (all allies inclusive) Unfortunately more and more and more people just like you hop on the bandwaggon , easy targets you might have thought. This is far far far away from fair play. But please dont mistake it for whining. Who said live in 0.0 has to be fair and honourful? We field 300 with ISS? Jesus, earlier i indicated that local had 200 people _maximum_ that is all combatants at once. 2/3 of them is the pirate coalition. I can accept everything, just try to stick with the facts. Iss is helping us, but the numbers you mention here are the product of too much spaceweed i am afraid. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:44:00 - [86] Originally by: Pylse The next person suggesting we will become industrialists after (if at all) taking the Station will have a 1.4m wide projectile filled with "fusion" projected at super-sonic speed aimed towards the greater of his nostrils. Will you sell me the low end ore you mine there? Or can i just order complete ships then? U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webhosting
Tar Kovsky Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:53:00 - [87] Originally by: DB Preacher Surely you could give an honest opinion of the hostile forces arrayed against you and what they are up to without comprimising your own tactical abilities? In a nutshell: There are roughly 5 hostile dreadnoughts in 9UY as well as a supporting fleet. The supporting fleet continues to attempt to lock down the system with bubbles. The defending fleet is making effective use of hit and run tactics in order to make life expensive for the attackers. I believe that one U'K POS has been destroyed, and another two are in reinforced mode. Two EST towers have also been put into reinforced mode. Additional information about the status of the sovereignty claim for the system may be obtained privately.
Stins Gallente ISS Logistics	Posted - 2006.09.08 15:55:00 - [88] ISS is in 9uy to make sure a important transport route from empire to a couple of ISS outposts stays clear. 9uy is a tactical system, and with a station there, belonging to a corp that has been hostile towards ISS for as long as I remember, it wouldn't make our life easier. ISS neutrality means we do not interfere in alliance politics, and that a neutral person won't be shot at. Not that we can't get fun with a a big chuck of our KOS list 2 jumps away from us. ISS alliance members will not post in this thread.
Lord Spidey Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:00:00 - [89] Originally by: zoolkhan Unfortunately more and more and more people just like you hop on the bandwaggon , easy targets you might have thought. This is far far far away from fair play. But please dont mistake it for whining. Who said live in 0.0 has to be fair and honourful? We field 300 with ISS? Jesus, earlier i indicated that local had 200 people _maximum_ that is all combatants at once. 2/3 of them is the pirate coalition. I can accept everything, just try to stick with the facts. Iss is helping us, but the numbers you mention here are the product of too much spaceweed i am afraid. God knows we are such bandwagoners since we are napped with every entity in the south...oh wait And as for me using the wrong numbers I took those from the ISS post which I quoted in my previous post but you seemed to be incapable of reading so I will quote again Originally by: Vandervecken Smith Yet your grand coalition of pirates chooses to attack Ushra'Khan (300 members), a considerably weaker power in the region. In short get a clue.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:00:00 - [90] Originally by: Audrea Sure, if ISS was just another alliance like the rest, that wouldnt be exceptional, but they claim to be neutrals. As I've already told you, ISS are not neutral toward The Establishment, we are hostile toward them. Repeat after me... 'hostile' The reason we are hostile is because they choose to 'pew pew' at us. Do you understand now?

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