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slackjawed
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:07:00 -
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Dear EvE-player,
I propose a balance to the self destructing. Due to people not able to log off anymore the remaining way to grief is to self destruct.
At this moment you can self destruct and you:
- Don't generate a killmail
- No loot drops
- Insurance is paid out.
While it makes sense that no loot drops (you do self destruct after all), it's dumb that there is no killmail provided. The insurance is something that is also questionable.
What I propose:
- Generate a killmail for the last person who shot at the ship. (Damage included or not depends on technical problems I presume)
- No loot drops
- Pay out no insurance
This way SD is used for the primary reason it should be used: denying people your stuff. It doesn't however cover the fact that your ship was destroyed.
Also the timer should be dependant on the ships size. The timer should be that it forces people to use enough dps to be able to kill it. A reasonable timer would probably be around 5-6 minutes for a super. A pod could be lowered to 20-30 seconds.
Conclusion: The CSM has recommended this once already, but nothing happened with it then. CCP is doing a good job fixing a lot of "issues" with the game, let's make this the next one?
This issue was alrdy raised once by Alekseyev Karrde, 20 December 2009.
The minutes it was discussed in: CSM Meeting 4.002 // Meeting Minutes: 2009/12/20 18:18
Results were: Self Destruct should revoke insurance Passed 7/2 (Mrs Trzzbk, Korvin)
Self-destruct should generate killmail Passed 7/2 (TeaDaze, Song Li)
Self-destruct should "overheat" all modules Failed 7/2 (Alekseyev Karrde, Sokratesz)
Self-destruct timer depends on ship size Passed 8/1 (Korvin) |

Jogyn
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
11
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:08:00 -
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BUFF RAGNAROK AND LEVIS |

Elizabeth H3ll
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:13:00 -
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+1 |

David Magnus
78
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:14:00 -
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This sounds reasonable, to be honest. I like that a player can still prevent you from getting their fit by self destructing, but it doesn't make sense that they get insurance for blowing up their own ship.
The timer issue is also a good one - from a RP perspective even it would take a lot longer for all the crew to escape from a Supercarrier than from a cruiser.
Good idea! http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/winterupdate http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/supercaps http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/pandemiclegion |

Velonad Tyldamere
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:15:00 -
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Supporting this. |

Reza Najafi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:15:00 -
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+1 |

necrodon
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
7
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:17:00 -
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Jogyn is so HOT |

Mik kyo
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
27
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:17:00 -
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I do not believe that we should nerf the russian cowards any more, following the super nerf all they have left is there self destruct timers... |

Euriti
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
9
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:19:00 -
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Supporting this |

Phoenus
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:18:00 -
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+1
The fact that you get insurance from self-destructing your ship is silly. It's been an incredibly ******** concept ever since EVE was released, and with all the other changes that are happening at the moment, it's time to fix it. |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
362
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:12:00 -
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I've been saying this for a while.
They've yanked insurance for concord, do the same for SD. It's logical and consistent. And killmails are a vital part of the way some people operate, especially mercenaries. Denying them killmails by blowing up your own ship is silly. It's enough to deny them loot. |

Blast x
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 01:50:00 -
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+1 |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
364
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:21:00 -
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David Magnus wrote:I like that a player can still prevent you from getting their fit by self destructing
I think it's silly. First off, a simple ship scanner will tell you someone's fit. It's not like it's an easily-kept secret.
Second, once your ship is destroyed, the wreckage could be sifted through and your entire build known. Just because modules can't be reused doesn't mean they are completely and utterly destroyed. |

Slapnuts McGee
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
24
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Posted - 2011.11.30 03:55:00 -
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I didn't really mind getting owned by that nyx today. But yeah, that mechanic is dumb.
Shorten the timer for normal people just trying to pod jump, and make it impossible to activate under duress. |

Klausan
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:06:00 -
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Supporting |

Elizabeth H3ll
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
7
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:09:00 -
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Slapnuts McGee wrote:I didn't really mind getting owned by that nyx today. But yeah, that mechanic is dumb.
Shorten the timer for normal people just trying to pod jump, and make it impossible to activate under duress.
Ill just leave this here. Nyx SD |

IamBeastx
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:04:00 -
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+1 self destruct needs to be brought uptodate with the rest of eve. |

notarealgirl
BLD Holdings Shadow of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:06:00 -
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yh, it seems crazy that such a short time is needed to utterly rob any benefit of organising this type of kill. |

Oli Prik
SniggWaffe
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:11:00 -
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+1 |

Myiesha
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:18:00 -
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+1 |
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Aliraxi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:21:00 -
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+1 |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
183
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:18:00 -
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+1 Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Ghitza
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:54:00 -
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I support this product and/or service |

Max Kolonko
Worm Nation Ash Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.11.30 21:26:00 -
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Ghitza wrote:I support this product and/or service
+1
CSM, can we please have your input in that matter? Is there any chance this can be adressed in the summit?
To the OP, You should put forth that idea in proper December Dummit Topic (there are a few in here, all created by Trebor, just look for one that matches subject) |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
242

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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:08:00 -
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May look into this in the future. Killmails you should certainly get. |
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
418
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:56:00 -
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Slapnuts McGee wrote: Shorten the timer for normal people just trying to pod jump, and make it impossible to activate under duress.
You don't want to disallow it being activated while under duress. Otherwise a griefer could lock you down away from a gate/station and give you no option but to turn off EVE and quit for the night. It needs to be allowed under all circumstances as a last resort option to get away from someone who is holding you in place for an extended period of time.
(Especially with the aggression change where your ship doesn't vanish from space until it dies or all aggression stops for 15 minutes.) |

Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
130
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Posted - 2011.12.01 03:24:00 -
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+1
also i like the idea of shorter pod sd, would help on nullsec ^^ |

Sin Meng
Creative Assembly
25
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Posted - 2011.12.01 04:44:00 -
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+1 Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either. |

DelBoy Trades
Enslave. GIANTSBANE.
62
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Posted - 2011.12.01 07:12:00 -
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+ All the people in the thread I made about this...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=37972&find=unread |

RipUOff
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:14:00 -
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+1 |
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