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Orakkus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:38:00 -
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+1 |
Seeme Not
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:57:00 -
[32] - Quote
+1 |
Maz3r Rakum
The Imperial Fedaykin
9
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:48:00 -
[33] - Quote
+2 |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
169
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Posted - 2011.12.01 19:19:00 -
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So you want e-peen booster and a punishment for the people who scuttle their ships .. even though scuttling is as old as sailing itself.
1. Void Insurance.
2 . Get together with the killboard designers and have them introduce a dummy entry specifically designed to ridicule/mock self-destructees.
Since we are not playing on the high seas we can't really add a diving occupation to investigate what is left after a scuttling so without foreknowledge of a ships contents prior to scuttling there is no way to do it in Eve without violating a time honoured tradition .. a way to add it (partially) without said violation is to generate a mail for the ship owner .. he can then chose to share
it, sell it or try to forget it.
In short: e-peen stroking should be a bannable offence .. no soup for YOU! |
Xtover
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
5
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Posted - 2011.12.01 19:52:00 -
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Putting aside my distaste for PL's meta gaming and the reason for this thread is because a WN Nyx self destructed and denied them a kill the other day...
The SD should include the players who agressed since the last session change. The timer though I do not feel should be extended.
Self destruction should deny the loot drop at the expense of insurance. |
Vipy Styx
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:52:00 -
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+1 |
Mulm
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:07:00 -
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Generating a killmail for a self destruct is ridiculous.
If you can't kill the ship you don't deserve the mail. Make variable self-destruct timers based on ship size or something, but no mails. |
Gandar Kimokanen
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:54:00 -
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You have my sword |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
66
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:05:00 -
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My opinion.
Void insurance a def.
Either: same self destruct timer as now, with killmail generation, or variable SD timers and no killmail generation. Just my opinion. |
Nyssa Litari
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:44:00 -
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It makes sense that you'd void insurance on self-destruct. It makes sense that you'd not generate loot when you self-destruct. I've seen no justification in this thread other than "it's dumb" for a self destruct to generate a kill mail for the attacker.
If you can't kill the ship before the timer, then no KM for you. Better, self-destructing ought to be like a giant smart bomb and damage everyone nearby. If you can take down an aggressor with that last desperate act, so much the better.
But "it should generate a kill mail because it's 'dumb' that it does not" is not a good reason. |
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Aamrr
HnL Enterprise
170
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:57:00 -
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Just a voice of consideration. Denying insurance payouts to self-destructing ships has a very real effect on wormhole space. Sometimes self-destructing isn't really voluntary...
I generally agree with the thread, otherwise. |
Hagbard23Celine
Liga Freier Terraner
Ev0ke
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:49:00 -
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+1  |
Altolinchen
Sternenschauer AG
Smacked Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:59:00 -
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Sounds good
CCP do it! |
Gandar Kimokanen
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:18:00 -
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Usally killing a super takes time and its effort as you need to plan before you go in for the kill. Its ******** if this kind of work doesnt provide any kind of "trophy" at all (like a killmail). No real man with a decent fit self destruct anyways. Die with pride |
Lady Isabell
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:12:00 -
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+1 |
Skrypt
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:15:00 -
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+1
It makes sense that SD timers have a direct relationship with a ship's size. |
Ron Bacardi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:21:00 -
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+1 |
M Blanc
The Ironmongery
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:32:00 -
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+1 |
Max Butched
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:01:00 -
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+1 |
Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:02:00 -
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+10 |
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Ecky X
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:05:00 -
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Gandar Kimokanen wrote:No real man with a decent fit self destruct anyways. Die with pride
Probably a horrible fit, ie. trip rep nyx |
A8ina
Celestial Argonauts
HELL4S
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:04:00 -
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Supporting this. A + |
Hinkledolph
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2011.12.03 13:08:00 -
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Yes we can |
slackjawed
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
33
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Posted - 2011.12.03 13:18:00 -
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Aamrr wrote:Just a voice of consideration. Denying insurance payouts to self-destructing ships has a very real effect on wormhole space. Sometimes self-destructing isn't really voluntary...
I generally agree with the thread, otherwise.
Get probes. If you SD you took the decision to do it. Aka you should also get the consequences. |
Sala Cameron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 13:19:00 -
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change is needed. |
Lee Dalton
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:04:00 -
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+1 |
DelBoy Trades
Enslave.
GIANTSBANE.
68
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Posted - 2011.12.04 07:32:00 -
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AND MY AXE!.....Wait, what are we doing?
Damn nature, you scary! |
Rebnok
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2011.12.04 17:20:00 -
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+ 9000 |
gazarsgo
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2011.12.04 17:33:00 -
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Shocked that after so many efforts by dozens of people, CCP has still not done anything about this.
If supercap log-off mechanics were "broken" and required fixing in the latest patch, there's no reason the same shouldn't be said for self-destruct.
+1 |
Funkert
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
0
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Posted - 2011.12.04 19:17:00 -
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definately +1'ing this
no loot
no insurance
yes killmail
(no insurance by itself should of course already lead to less SD's and moar killmails, so if the bears are against the 3rd point they can have it)
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