Well its good that you're smart enough to see it in that light.

Now, take it the next step and realize THIS IS A GOOD THING. Devalued space means other space is more valuable.

You want value? Leave the drone regions.

Try to guess what will happen if everyone will leave drone regiones

If something has been changed to make hoards worse then I would say the complaint is legit, though it has not been explained exactly what has changed.

For one, if the stuff comes in waves, is that a change? If the drones target everything in mission area, then hold back the noctois.

If you are multiboxing wait for the area to be cleared before puting in notis, while that char is salvaging the stuff in the thousands of M3 your other char can clear a new site

if not multiboxing, well you have to clear the area anyway before reshiping, no salvaging is not safe in industirals with any rats present.

If you are using a maurader does a all in one ship work, or do the presence of rats now prevent tractoring and cycling the salvager.


If whatever change is a problem, clearly state how it is a problem.

Can a dev please explain to me how they are balanced with bounty space for the individual player?

Can you explain to us why they need to be balanced?

Can you explain to us why you think we needed a nerf to be balnaced if being balanced does not matter?

We can go round and round about this. The simple fact is that CCP just hit drone regions with the nerf bat again because the rest of the players cant handle the fact that we make a living in the worst space in the game and make it look easy.

I love how people who DON'T live in these areas are so quick to argue about something they obviously know nothing about...


I also love the snarky comments they make like, "Well maybe it shouldn't be balanced," and "go find somewhere else to live" when I know without any doubt whatsoever that they'd be screaming bloody murder if THEIR gameplay was affected...


So I'll respond to all of them with this comment:

"I didn't ask you for your opinion, so STFU...."

That work for you? Good.


Personally I thought the Hordes were just fine as they were, and I've only been running them now for about a month, busting my a$$ to get the right skills, the right ship, the right fittings, buying BPO's for the drones/fighters, etc... Now it's becoming pretty obvious that carriers - already being useless for PvP - are useless for PvE as well.

So I challenge CCP to address these concerns, as they've now made the "hardest" drone site one of the least valuable. And for those of you who aren't affected by this issue, I invite you to mind your own damned business.

I think it is fairly obvious that, regardless of how much anyone agrees or disagrees with the concept of certain space being of dramatically lower value (or higher opportunity cost), CCP is trying to push drone-residents to get mobile and start hassling other regions for "better," space.

Ultimately, it makes little difference what we think about equitable anom equivalents. CCP has made it's agenda clear ages ago and they clearly think that this is their best bet to get sov. wars going again. Since the NC was evicted, I'll be they even think their plan has been a success thus far.

Personally, I don't think anything short of tech moons will ever be worth structure grinding over, but perhaps i'm under-estimating the boredom super pilots will experience without being able to smack subcaps around.

I think it is fairly obvious that, regardless of how much anyone agrees or disagrees with the concept of certain space being of dramatically lower value (or higher opportunity cost), CCP is trying to push drone-residents to get mobile and start hassling other regions for "better," space.

Ultimately, it makes little difference what we think about equitable anom equivalents. CCP has made it's agenda clear ages ago and they clearly think that this is their best bet to get sov. wars going again. Since the NC was evicted, I'll be they even think their plan has been a success thus far.

Personally, I don't think anything short of tech moons will ever be worth structure grinding over, but perhaps i'm under-estimating the boredom super pilots will experience without being able to smack subcaps around.

Sound thinking, but we may never know CCP's motivation for doing something like this.

we cannot salvage cause its comming in waves wich will kill our noctis fast.

Looks like a renter is rather butthurt. Maybe you could negotiate with your land lord for lower monthly payments since your farming anomalies were nerfed?

Nah, just complain here instead so we can all laugh at you.

also lol carriers useless for PvP; renters not so bright are they?

Vipieris is correct.

Sound thinking, but we may never know CCP's motivation for doing something like this.

Like I said, I'm more inclined to believe CCP's aim is more along the lines of fixing an old and pre-existing problem (the sheer amount of materials coming from drone regions, which affects markets AND a whole 'nother profession), just like they did when they nerfed loot drops from missions.

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The people who have been spoiled by the old ways are complaining about it rather than trying to find ways to adapt. I don't fell sorry for them, the whole "shoot structure, get aggro, bring in noctis to salvage in complete safety" method was unfair to those of us who were NOT in drone regions. You know, us guys who have to kill the WHOLE sanctum to finish it lol.

Some of my drone region buddies are doing the same complaining, to which I said "can't you just put capital remote reps on your carrier and perma rep your noctis so it can survice the spawns?". They were all like "oh yea" lol.

Sorry drone regions require actual effort now, but thats EVE :) .

Well if the mighty DMC says so, then obviously this is the case.

Why are you posting about something you know nothing about?

The hordes ARE completed as they won't respawn if they're not (are you really that stupid?). Also, since when were people in the drone regions spoilt by the old ways considering the following:

Hordes gave less ISK value than Sanctums
Hordes needed to be salvaged to realise the value
The drone alloy had to be transported to a station for refining etc

The drone regions were always WORSE, so what is your point.

I'm considering putting bounties on them and turning them into normal rats.

I hate gunmining with a passion.

CCP Bettik has been going spreadsheet crazy; reviewing the average payout for anomalies and increasing their values. You will see more NPCs in anomalies and, best of all, more ISK in your wallet! A more detailed blog about the Anomaly rebalancing effort, by CCP Greyscale, will be published next week.

If you weren't terrible you could make ~300mil per hour running drone hordes with smart bombing carriers till they nerfed that.

Drone hordes always completed? No....everyone who lives there with a brain knows to just kill the bs, warp out and go next site. Warp in rorq/noctis a couple mins after to the last site when it has despawned.