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NickyYo StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge 15	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? You just add fuel to the fire with every patch by doing stupid things like this. A quote from my corpie "UI is fked up and the new font looks like something a girl would use on her blog lol" Anyways Nice patch! apart from the fonts ofcourse...
Atridies The Ulterior Motive 3	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote +1 I actually struggle to read this font, and had no problems whatsoever with reading the old font. Too big and cluttered. Overview, chat windows and items / ships are now off limits to my eyes.
Jita Alt666 584	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:24:00 - [3] - Quote Because you warned them they should have listened.
E Wan The Positron 9	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:26:00 - [4] - Quote +1 Understood that CCP is aiming for the new technologies and stuff but I play at 15" brand new MacBook Pro that costs like hell and I can't see anything anymore with this font. Every single irrelevant tab is enlarged, character spacing is HUGE and everything is so heavy to read. Why don't you guys simple install this Arial if you want to change something? Or have us pick what font we would like to use. This is horror and I have HARD time to play!
Kietay Ayari Monopoly Money Operations 66	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:31:00 - [5] - Quote I do not believe anyone who claims to be able to read the old font but not the new one. I understand if you do not like how it looks but I call lies if you say you cant read this! Part of the reason the font is ugly is because it is so clear to read. Ferox #1
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 195	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:32:00 - [6] - Quote As I posted in another thread, I'm not a fan of this font. It is easier to distinguish characters than it was with the other font. However this one doesn't fit with the style of EVE in my opinion. I'm no typography expert, but it seems to me that a cleaner and smoother font would have fit better.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1732	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:32:00 - [7] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? Wait. So what are you talking about? First, you mention fonts, and now you're talking about something that no-one has a problem with? What is that? It can't be the font, since it has been pretty much the most requested change for, oh, the last five years or so. The new one improves readability to a huge degree by offering some actual differentiation between similarly shaped glyphs. Functionality trumps looks. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:33:00 - [8] - Quote I like the new font, on account of being able to read it better. So yeah.
Esagila 32	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:34:00 - [9] - Quote E Wan wrote: +1 Understood that CCP is aiming for the new technologies and stuff but I play at 15" brand new MacBook Pro that costs like hell and I can't see anything anymore with this font. Every single irrelevant tab is enlarged, character spacing is HUGE and everything is so heavy to read. Why don't you guys simple install this Arial if you want to change something? Or have us pick what font we would like to use. This is horror and I have HARD time to play! Go to display & graphics, select UI scaling to 90% It might make it a little more bearable, by not being so frakking bloated. But yeah - agreed do not like.
KFenn Percussive Diplomacy 114	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:34:00 - [10] - Quote Kietay Ayari wrote: I do not believe anyone who claims to be able to read the old font but not the new one. I understand if you do not like how it looks but I call lies if you say you cant read this! Part of the reason the font is ugly is because it is so clear to read. Not emptyquoting. We get a far, far easier to read font and people are throwing the dummy out of the pram simply because it's not 'SciFi' or 'Cool' enough? Sure, I'd like that too but first and foremost I should be able to read and parse the text easily. Function over Form. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 195	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:35:00 - [11] - Quote Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? Wait. So what are you talking about? First, you mention fonts, and now you're talking about something that no-one has a problem with? What is that? It can't be the font, since it has been pretty much the most requested change for, oh, the last five years or so. The new one improves readability to a huge degree by offering some actual differentiation between similarly shaped glyphs. Functionality trumps looks. I think what they are trying to express is that while the new font fixes that functionality issue, it's not a very aesthetically pleasing font [to them, and me]. I agree that the new font is technically better than the old one, and I'll grow into it, but I would hope for a third font down the road that would come off looking nicer to fit the theme of EVE.
NickyYo StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge 15	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:35:00 - [12] - Quote Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? Wait. So what are you talking about? First, you mention fonts, and now you're talking about something that no-one has a problem with? What is that? It can't be the font, since it has been pretty much the most requested change for, oh, the last five years or so. The new one improves readability to a huge degree by offering some actual differentiation between similarly shaped glyphs. Functionality trumps looks. Stop trying to act smart and come back down to earth please, The new font is a joke and there was no problems with the last font.
Zagam Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 265	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:37:00 - [13] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Why change something that no one has a problem with? Huh?
Valeroth Kyarmentari Verdant Rampart 3	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:37:00 - [14] - Quote I'm having a hard time reading the new font as well... I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like it's not quite as sharp. I'm actually having a harder time with numbers now than before... After some experimantation seems as though if I make the font large enough it's okay, but it some places it's stuck small and it's a problem.
Zagam Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 265	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:38:00 - [15] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? Wait. So what are you talking about? First, you mention fonts, and now you're talking about something that no-one has a problem with? What is that? It can't be the font, since it has been pretty much the most requested change for, oh, the last five years or so. The new one improves readability to a huge degree by offering some actual differentiation between similarly shaped glyphs. Functionality trumps looks. Stop trying to act smart and come back down to earth please, The new font is a joke and there was no problems with the last font. I'm 31, and had problems reading the old font at times. Especially letters like O and 0, B and 8, B and D, S and 5... etc.
Jita Alt666 584	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:39:00 - [16] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: Why do you make a good patch and then let it down with something like FONTS!! LOL! Why change something that no one has a problem with? Wait. So what are you talking about? First, you mention fonts, and now you're talking about something that no-one has a problem with? What is that? It can't be the font, since it has been pretty much the most requested change for, oh, the last five years or so. The new one improves readability to a huge degree by offering some actual differentiation between similarly shaped glyphs. Functionality trumps looks. Stop trying to act smart and come back down to earth please, The new font is a joke and there was no problems with the last font. No Problem even made it to the wiki Offical thread listing the number of people who wanted old font changed in 2008- that is a long long time coming
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1732	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Stop trying to act smart I don't need to act. How about you instead stop trying to make claims that have no basis in reality. People have been asking for an improved font for ages, and now we got one. The old font was awful in every way imaginable, particularly when it came to legibility and distinction of glyphs GÇö two things you definitely want in a text/numbers-heavy application. If you believe otherwise, you simply haven't been paying attention and need to stop acting like you know anything about the issue. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:42:00 - [18] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Stop trying to act smart and come back down to earth please, I had no problems with the old font and I don't like the new font. Also I have a strange medical condition that conflates my personal opinion with that of the entire playerbase Fixed your post there mate.
NickyYo StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge 15	Posted - 2011.11.29 21:57:00 - [19] - Quote Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: Stop trying to act smart I don't need to act. How about you instead stop trying to make claims that have no basis in reality. People have been asking for an improved font for ages, and now we got one. The old font was awful in every way imaginable, particularly when it came to legibility and distinction of glyphs GÇö two things you definitely want in a text/numbers-heavy application. If you believe otherwise, you simply haven't been paying attention and need to stop acting like you know anything about the issue. The new fonts are not improved, my eyes feel blury when i read it, its tiring... the new font also requires theuser to move their eyes more to read a sentance, how is that more user friendly? Anyways if i could put a bet on at the bookies, CCP chaning back to the old font will be one of them.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1732	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:01:00 - [20] - Quote NickyYo wrote: The new fonts are not improved, my eyes feel blury when it. Get some glasses? That would probably help you spot the glaringly obvious flaws in the old font too (not to mention the vast improvements the new one offers). Quote: Anyways if i could put a bet on at the bookies, CCP chaning back to the old font will be one of them. If you want to throw away money like that, I'm willing to take it off your hands. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
NickyYo StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge 15	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:02:00 - [21] - Quote Tippia wrote: NickyYo wrote: The new fonts are not improved, my eyes feel blury when it. Get some glasses? That would probably help you spot the glaringly obvious flaws in the old font too (not to mention the vast improvements the new one offers). Quote: Anyways if i could put a bet on at the bookies, CCP chaning back to the old font will be one of them. If you want to throw away money like that, I'm willing to take it off your hands. Why don't you try quoting my whole statement, instead of cherry picking bits to quote... The new fonts are not improved, my eyes feel blury when i read it, its tiring... the new font also requires theuser to move their eyes more to read a sentance, how is that more user friendly?
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 215	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:03:00 - [22] - Quote Another thread with more bitching and whining? Don't you guys have anything better to do? I didn't have a problem with the old font and don't have a problem with the new one. Get... Over... It. Support our boobies!-áLINKY!
Leo Monaco Aerocom 0	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:07:00 - [23] - Quote The new font looks like something off a playstation 1 This i dont like Back with the old one please
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 476	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:09:00 - [24] - Quote E Wan wrote: ... but I play at 15" brand new MacBook Pro that costs like hell... Read that quote over and over until it sinks into your head that notebooks are not gaming systems. Gaming on a fifteen inch screen? And then complaining you can't see anything? Get over it, pal and get a decent gaming rig. Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1732	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:10:00 - [25] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Why don't you try quoting my whole statement, instead of cherry picking bits to quote. I did. It's not my fault if you edit your mistakes at a later time. Quote: The new fonts are not improved, my eyes feel blury when i read it, its tiring. SoGÇª get some glasses? That would probably help you spot the glaringly obvious flaws in the old font too (not to mention the vast improvements the new one offers). Quote: the new font also requires theuser to move their eyes more to read a sentance, how is that more user friendly? It's more user friendly because the increased readability lets you use fewer GÇ£stopsGÇ¥ with more accuracy as you scan the line, and because they also offer functionality to let you take in more in each step. Improvements all around. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 289	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:15:00 - [26] - Quote New font is FINE !! -finally
Jace Errata Cobalt Valkyrie Industries The Ambivalent 39	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:15:00 - [27] - Quote I haven't installed Crucible yet, but when I saw the new font on SiSi, it was easier to read, and there was more distinction between similar characters, so it seems to me to be an improvement. I admit it would be nicer if it was smoother/cleaner, but as has been said before (repeatedly), Functionality > Looks, especially when it comes to fonts used in places where function is important. Although, your complaint doesn't seem to be about aesthetics, but about some kind of reduction in functionality. Which makes no sense at all to me...with UI scaling and the new font, pretty much everything should be easier to read. BTW yeah, play EVE on a larger screen if you want it to look its best. I played on a smaller screen once because my larger one died, and it was sucktacular. Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 420	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:17:00 - [28] - Quote this is actually a pretty bad font, and my UI scaling and font size are default The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Cindy Marco Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:19:00 - [29] - Quote The new font just hurts. It feels like 1995. I really have to strain to read it. I can't see playing more then a couple hours without some serious eye exhaustion. I see that some people like it. Hopefully CCP will just add an an option to select which font we prefer to use.
Ifly Uwalk Concentrated Evil 44	Posted - 2011.11.29 22:21:00 - [30] - Quote Why does this remind me of the time when they changed the old fitting window to the new one? And the sh*t storm that ensued? I'm not seeing anyone crying over the old fitting window now; and I bet noone will be crying over the old font by the time the next expansion/patch comes around.

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