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Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:21:38 - [1] - Quote Well before phoebe titans are a little bit useable but after phoebe titans have no use, Work hard for the **** and the result is nothing now :) Can i hunt other carriers ? NO -> I2m going to stuck at the system Can i bridge fleets ? -> No Can i move my titan elsewhere ? No I think titans needs some love. Or a role in game both solo or fleet. No one wants to use them. Or ccp can just remove them from the game and return our isk :)
Tabyll Altol Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two 59	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:28:15 - [2] - Quote Reserved
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:46:51 - [3] - Quote Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so. Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is : %80 travel time %20 fight time. Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the T-¦D-¦ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched. Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more T-¦D-¦.
Spugg Galdon APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front 573	Posted - 2014.12.18 13:57:25 - [4] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so. Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is : %80 travel time %20 fight time. Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the T-¦D-¦ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched. Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more T-¦D-¦. I'm pretty sure it's because they don't want you to have force projection. So going 20 jumps for a fight isn't intended. They want smaller entities fighting over smaller entities of space. You need to give it more time and let the dust settle from Pheobe.
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:00:59 - [5] - Quote So there should be a little trick that can do both...
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 14257	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:09:14 - [6] - Quote We still bridge using titans and they still have DD. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
FireFrenzy Satan's Unicorns 133	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:12:28 - [7] - Quote also wasnt the whole goddamn point of the titan to be a big swining space ***** that wasnt intended to be cost effective or usefull? It's a "hey look at me be awesome because i can titan" not a "well we need 49 of them to go on this strat op"
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:14:40 - [8] - Quote baltec1 wrote: We still bridge using titans and they still have DD. Yeah because in 10k alliance a few ppl that cant jump because of the fatique will not effect the blueball :) Inside region bridges should be jump fatique free or much lesser.
Adrie Atticus Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion 690	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:23:59 - [9] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Well before phoebe titans are a little bit useable but after phoebe titans have no use, Work hard for the **** and the result is nothing now :) Can i hunt other carriers ? NO -> I2m going to stuck at the system Can i bridge fleets ? -> No Can i move my titan elsewhere ? No I think titans needs some love. Or a role in game both solo or fleet. No one wants to use them. Or ccp can just remove them from the game and return our isk :) You are using your titans incorrectly.
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:25:32 - [10] - Quote You are not going to see that again thats for sure :)
Antillie Sa'Kan Forging Industries Silent Infinity 821	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:26:20 - [11] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Yeah because in 10k alliance a few ppl that cant jump because of the fatique will not effect the blueball :) Inregion bridges should be jump fatique free or much lesser. No. Death to all supers.
Tabyll Altol Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two 59	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:34:16 - [12] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Now you say you think titans need some love and my arguments are not strong enough. So make my arguments stronger please, And moving a titan through a gate ? I dont think its a good idea :) I will never move my titan through the gates SOLO, with a single sabre can hunt me, move a titan to subcap fleet for boost ? I dont think so. Btw i dont get why subcap fleets gets jump fatique from titan briges or jump bridges its was a comfort less jumping more fighting. Now its all jumping through gates go to target and come back without a fight. The result is : %80 travel time %20 fight time. Why CCP why i have to jump with 200 ppl with the T-¦D-¦ through 20 jumps ? For a fight ? Titan and jumpbridges fatique needs to removed or retouched. Because the 0,0 is getting more and more and more boring, more and more and more T-¦D-¦. You said your stuck in the system. This is wrong you can move your titan it-¦s only because its to dangerous in your eyes to move it so you wanna to change it. The point of the jump fatique was to limit the ability of the big power blocks to move fleet across the eve universe in a short time. Why don-¦t you use your titan for a subcap booster, i had a fleet with a leviathan as fleet booster ( was a fleet with harpys). And Titans should never be a soloship. The bigger the ship the more subfleet it should need. The bigger ships are a force multiplier. e.g. 150 Tengus get a 37,5 % shield buff so you get about 206 which means 56 more. (From the shield hp).
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 14:43:45 - [13] - Quote No i dont wanna kill all the ships with my titan :) . And please use a titan booster in a real fleets and make a video so i can see and think you have really big "things". It's not good for eve to force people to jump over 20 systems in EMPTY nullsec to defend some structre in the same region, and please DD some carriers in your titan in hostile space. And please say something to improve my idea :) Or show me the reason why a new player should aim for a titan ? And explain to me what is the point of having a titan nowadays ? Eve is all about taking the risks and no one will take a 110b risk with these conditions, and they need to be improved.
Jenshae Chiroptera 614	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:13:40 - [14] - Quote ... ... .... Okay, for the others reading this: Phoebe is working as intended. Your Titan isn't meant to be able to jump all over space like a flea. The whole plan is that null sec coalitions and alliances shrink and they can not defend huge useless and stationless tracts of space. All your complaints = Yes! Perfect! CSM Ten movement for change. EVE - the only MMO that not so subtly serves up victims. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries Chelonaphobia 710	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:38:48 - [15] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: ... ... .... Pretending to take your argument seriously: Titans were designed as an alliance goal. Like stations, they are meant to take a lot of people and effort to have only a few of them. When you use a Titan it is mean to be serving the alliance. Completely the opposite to a solo ship. "Hey guys! I bought a bus because I am rich and I did it solo! Why does it go so slow? Why is the handling so bad? Why do people keep looking at me and trying to ride on the bus?" Okay, for the others reading this: Phoebe is working as intended. Your Titan isn't meant to be able to jump all over space like a flea. The whole plan is that null sec coalitions and alliances shrink and they can not defend huge useless and stationless tracts of space. All your complaints = Yes! Perfect! You are missing his point. He didn't put it in the OP, but his stipulation is that he can't do those things without risking the loss of his ship. That's his real complaint. He can actually do everything that he says he can't. He just can't do it with zero risk anymore. He feels cheated by the game because he bought into a failing system, it failed and by default his dreams failed. Instead of focussing on his complaints - you should evaluate the new features and ideas he has put forth. Weigh them not by the petty self indulgent whining he leads with, but weigh them on the value they will add to the game.
Jenshae Chiroptera 615	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:45:41 - [16] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: You are missing his point. He didn't put it in the OP, but his stipulation is that he can't do those things without risking the loss of his ship. That's his real complaint. He can actually do everything that he says he can't. He just can't do it with zero risk anymore. He feels cheated by the game because he bought into a failing system, it failed and by default his dreams failed. Instead of focusing on his complaints - you should evaluate the new features and ideas he has put forth. Weigh them not by the petty self indulgent whining he leads with, but weigh them on the value they will add to the game. I have taken your post seriously and I have gone back over this thread. I have nothing more to add. There is no common ground on which I can begin to accept his perspective. It would be like someone complaining that aimbots were effectively blocked from a game and then trying to agree that they can only be used ever second round of the game. CSM Ten movement for change. EVE - the only MMO that not so subtly serves up victims. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:09:19 - [17] - Quote Well my main point is titans are useless now, they should gain more role in game ! Titan bridges should cost less jump fatique, or none. This is my point is it so hard to understand ?
Zed Rachalon The Icarus Factor 12	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:26:45 - [18] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: show me the reason why a new player should aim for a titan ? This right here is your problem. New players should NOT aim for a titan. It's something they all want because it's big and impressive, and costs a lot of money. Make no mistake though, the titan is supposed to be an alliance support ship, not a good combat ship. You're essentially piloting a flying city, so you have no maneuverability. You have massive guns, so shooting down swarms of frigates is out. Your time to warp is laughable, and most of all, because titans are so expensive, everyone wants a killboard of one, so you'll never be left alone. What is the titan good at? Well, your alliance can buy 20 jump freighters at about 7B each or it can buy 20 freighters at just over 1B and a titan at around 70B to bridge them to where you need them. 207B = 140B 201.1B + 70B = 92B The numbers really start to make sense. What else is the titan good at? Well, despite the recent jump changes, Titans are still one of the best means of force projection in an alliance to date. Gate travel is, as you mentioned, risky. Why would you risk bringing an entire fleet into that situation when a titan can get them there relatively safely? Finally, the titan does have some limited combat capability, but usually only for massive fleet fights. Being a supercap, they have an outright ewar immunity, and they have one of the best weapons against carriers and dreads in the game. They show up on field, and they blast the bejeesus out of the carriers on grid. Want to stop them with your Celestis fleet wing? Sorry, no can do. They are not, however, capable of taking fleets or even small groups of subcapitals. When was the last time you've seen a US Navy aircraft carrier out by itself in the middle of the ocean? The correct answer is, you don't. They're the true powers of the oceans, but they never travel alone. They're always surrounded by destroyers, frigates, and occasionally battleships. I understand it's tempting to rush for a titan. You see the trailers, and the titans look really exciting. They look awesome, and the trailer tells you that it's possible for you to own one. That's true, but like all the ships in eve, it has a specific function, and you should fly the ship that does what you want or need it to do.
Iain Cariaba 769	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:30:31 - [19] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Well my main point is titans are useless now, they should gain more role in game ! Titan bridges should cost less jump fatique, or none. This is my point is it so hard to understand ? So your giant epeen isn't so spectacular anymore? Buy/train a sitter, if you don't already have one, log off the titan, and try actually contributing to the game. What you are experiencing is the Phoebe jump changes working as intended. Adapt, or unsub. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries Chelonaphobia 711	Posted - 2014.12.18 16:59:39 - [20] - Quote Why can't you appreciate all the hard work and training time he sacrificed to get into a titan. CCP owes him. I owe him. We all owe him. I've set up a Disillusioned Titan Pilots fund. Anyone wishing to do the right thing and support these poor players in their time of need may send isk to me w/ the label "shattered dreams". Once I've gathered enough isk to do these folks some good - I'll repay them for the sacrifices they have endured on our behalf.
Cassie Celestis Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:11:19 - [21] - Quote Was inclined to just say .. Death to all Supers! But here goes.. As others mentioned Titans are not solo ships. They are supposed to be alliance flagships or whatever you want to call it, requiring a whole subcap fleet to support them. They have their uses when in the right group. And they can tip the balance when used properly in those situations. No fight big enough for them to be usefull in? Bring something else. You would't hunt a fly with a bazooka would you? Yes even a big fly..Yes even if was a noob.. And solo.. And just sitting there..Oh well They are supposed to be VERY specialized ship behemoths. Not indented to be able to jump x20 clicks away and then back or to force project without control. They were on the verge of that up untill Phoebe. Changes working as intended. Adaptation is an option. New players should not aim for a titan unless they got 50mil skillpoints and can fly several other ships adequately, so they can actually contribute instead of waiting for their titan to be needed. Or train a Titan pilot as an alt, skipping whatever skill is not needed. And as a wise man once said " Thats no moon...It's a Deathstar! " ffs. May the force be with you and your Titan.. Ermm I mean fly safe o7
Iain Cariaba 771	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:18:05 - [22] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Why can't you appreciate all the hard work and training time he sacrificed to get into a titan. CCP owes him. I owe him. We all owe him. I've set up a Disillusioned Titan Pilots fund. Anyone wishing to do the right thing and support these poor players in their time of need may send isk to me w/ the label "shattered dreams". Once I've gathered enough isk to do these folks some good - I'll repay them for the sacrifices they have endured on our behalf. I keep all my isk in this turtle shaped piggy bank. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:35:21 - [23] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Id Tamta wrote: Well my main point is titans are useless now, they should gain more role in game ! Titan bridges should cost less jump fatique, or none. This is my point is it so hard to understand ? So your giant epeen isn't so spectacular anymore? Buy/train a sitter, if you don't already have one, log off the titan, and try actually contributing to the game. What you are experiencing is the Phoebe jump changes working as intended. Adapt, or unsub. Thanks for the advice random guy in internet spaceships :) And i own a titan for like 4 years i know how to use it . Please read the OTHER POST we are at : WHY CCP WHY I HAVE TO JUMP 20 JUMPS IN A REGION I CONTROLED . Titan jump fatique should be removed for in region jumps
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:43:39 - [24] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: Why can't you appreciate all the hard work and training time he sacrificed to get into a titan. CCP owes him. I owe him. We all owe him. I've set up a Disillusioned Titan Pilots fund. Anyone wishing to do the right thing and support these poor players in their time of need may send isk to me w/ the label "shattered dreams". Once I've gathered enough isk to do these folks some good - I'll repay them for the sacrifices they have endured on our behalf. Oh please give me more,
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3135	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:56:38 - [25] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Well before phoebe titans are a little bit useable but after phoebe titans have no use, Work hard for the **** and the result is nothing now :) Can i hunt other carriers ? NO -> I2m going to stuck at the system Can i bridge fleets ? -> No Can i move my titan elsewhere ? No I think titans needs some love. Or a role in game both solo or fleet. No one wants to use them. Or ccp can just remove them from the game and return our isk :) My OP lead me to this idea, please dont explain to me why titans are not solo ship. Which i think ridiciolus WHY CCP WHY I HAVE TO JUMP 20 JUMPS IN A REGION I CONTROLED . Titan jump fatique has needs to be removed for "in region" titan bridge jumps The best buff for Titans would be deleting them all. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Improve the forums, support this idea: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=345133
Zavand Crendraven Rolling Static Gone Critical 3	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:34:31 - [26] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: Id Tamta wrote: Well my main point is titans are useless now, they should gain more role in game ! Titan bridges should cost less jump fatique, or none. This is my point is it so hard to understand ? So your giant epeen isn't so spectacular anymore? Buy/train a sitter, if you don't already have one, log off the titan, and try actually contributing to the game. What you are experiencing is the Phoebe jump changes working as intended. Adapt, or unsub. Thanks for the advice random guy in internet spaceships :) And i own a titan for like 4 years i know how to use it . Please read the OTHER POST we are at : WHY CCP WHY I HAVE TO JUMP 20 JUMPS IN A REGION I CONTROLED . Titan jump fatique should be removed for in region jumps You cant actually be serious can you? Lets take a more worldly example. USA is getting attacked on both the west coast and the east coast since USA controls their country they should naturally not have to move their troops from the west coast to the east coast where there happened to be more enemies. Instead of using things such as roads, trains and air transport, which takes time to arrive, they should just have the right to appear on the east coast, Cuz you know USA ownsits own region.....
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:21:27 - [27] - Quote Hello this is a internet space ship game WHICH u play for fun ? So less travel time more fight time what is wrong with this ?
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 14259	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:28:07 - [28] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: Hello this is a internet space ship game WHICH u play for fun ? So less travel time more fight time what is wrong with this ? The part where we dump a boot fleet on everything anywhere in the galaxy. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Id Tamta State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:40:09 - [29] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Id Tamta wrote: Hello this is a internet space ship game WHICH u play for fun ? So less travel time more fight time what is wrong with this ? The part where we dump a boot fleet on everything anywhere in the galaxy. So what i want to say is POWER PROJECTION is BAD we should stop that, but more travel times reduces the joy of game, so they should fix that for one jump INSIDE the region ?
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 14259	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:49:30 - [30] - Quote Id Tamta wrote: baltec1 wrote: Id Tamta wrote: Hello this is a internet space ship game WHICH u play for fun ? So less travel time more fight time what is wrong with this ? The part where we dump a boot fleet on everything anywhere in the galaxy. So what i want to say is POWER PROJECTION is BAD we should stop that, but more travel times reduces the joy of game, so they should fix that for one jump INSIDE the region ? Just use the gates, I can get a damn phoenix to warp fast enough for a tengu fleet. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship

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