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Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:24:00 - [1] I know this is wayyyy early considering that CCP plans on keeping this baby running for a long time. However When and if EVE 2 comes out what would u guys like to see implemented which may not be implemented in the game right now due to the amount of changes it would require etc. Also what would u like to see back and what would u change from the current game? BTW DONNOT WHINE ON THIS THREAD!!! its a post to simply share vision of what the next game (if there is going to be one) should be in your opinion. Some of these ideas are shared by many in the community and i thought they were cool. -Planetary bases/stations -Being able to use ur character to walk around a station to buy items, simply to have a more personalized interaction with other people. -Have more events along the lines of tournaments such as: race tournaments to name best pilot of the race for that period. speed tournamets Small gang tournamets and ofc the good ol corp/alliance tournaments. IN all of these people would get isk rewards and in some special occations they could get an officer/faction module. Perhaps even special ships liek theyve done in the past. Ill post others when i remember...too much in my head lol.
Coasterbrian Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:26:00 - [2] There will never be an Eve 2. CCP will just keep modifying the existing game. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Coasterbrian There will never be an Eve 2. CCP will just keep modifying the existing game. Im sure they would, but i think at some point they would have to change things too deeply to keep new things coming in; and doing that is no easy task..
Estelle Matsuko Caldari The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:30:00 - [4] Eve is evolving all the time. It has no number. It is merely .... EVE
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:34:00 - [5] Originally by: Rehmes Originally by: Coasterbrian There will never be an Eve 2. CCP will just keep modifying the existing game. Im sure they would, but i think at some point they would have to change things too deeply to keep new things coming in; and doing that is no easy task.. Wrong other game companys just tell you that.In the dragon code alone i believe they almost had a total rewrite of a lot of code(if i am remebering what a dev said correctly).Once kali-3 comes out you will be playing EVE-2. --- CCP where are our t2 shield power relays?
ArcticShadow Gallente Rome SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:35:00 - [6] Since the game was released every single little thing has changed, except for maybe right click- target. Every mod and ship has been changed and re-changed, drastically at times. There are probably 4 to 5 times as many ships out, a whole new tech level, and many completely new moduals such as tractor breams and target painters for the most obvious. The layout of the universe has changed and many routes got shorter when the highways were implimented, and then later changed to make them longer. Even things as simple as the graphic icon in the target window showing how much damage you have done to your target has changed, as it used to be a circle, the top half being shield, bottom armor, and you guess how much structure. In every way, we are playing Eve 2, maybe 3, just like the poster above said Eve has no numbers, it is just Eve. --- ArcticWolf, member of Eve since February, 2003. My Story
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:39:00 - [7] Edited by: Kaiu on 16/09/2006 16:39:31 As it stands, EVE has evolved and continues to do so imo extremely well! Roll on Kali and new gfx ____________________ MOGarmy
Jemma Talcot	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:40:00 - [8] EVE 2? HAHAHA, you only started playing eve about 3 months ago according to your characters age, and you are already asking for EVE 2? Whats wrong? You gutted that EVE's been out for a while so theres a lot more older players than you? Guess what, there will be no EVE 2, EVE is EVE and its ever evolving, theres no need to EVE 2.
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Jemma Talcot EVE 2? HAHAHA, you only started playing eve about 3 months ago according to your characters age, and you are already asking for EVE 2? Whats wrong? You gutted that EVE's been out for a while so theres a lot more older players than you? Guess what, there will be no EVE 2, EVE is EVE and its ever evolving, theres no need to EVE 2. Ummm no...im not asking for EVE 2. I will keep playing this game as long as i can and i have no issues w older players tbh. If u actually read the OP u will notice that im simply asking what would people like to see IF a new EVE were to be made. Stop coming to your own conclusions. The fact that there a player is older than me doesnt mean i am not able to beat him/her in pvp... Anyway since it seems that i wasnt aware of the remarkable changes this game has undergone in the past i guess ill simply ask this: What would u guys like to see implemented that u think would make this game even more fun to play.
Rakeris Legio VIII	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:48:00 - [10] Indeed no need for EVE 2 or anything of the sort. EVE is constantly evolving, no need for any other game or "expansion". IMHO this is one of the reasons CCP is doing so well. If you had to buy all of the expansions Exodus, RMR soon to be Kali, or other games. I don't think they would have as many players. Maybe so though. -------- Sig removed, please keep your sig EVE related as per the forum rules, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus It was EVE related!!
Arkane Darkwhisper Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.16 16:57:00 - [11] I highly doubt there will be an EVE 2. All MMORPG that had a "2" inserted in the game name have been partial or complete failure (AC 2, EQ2) You normally make a 2 when you dont have enough content to extend the current one... Eve have not enough place to extend current stuff??
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.16 17:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Rehmes -Planetary bases/stations Being planned sometime after Kali. Check the 'Drawinboard' Originally by: Rehmes -Being able to use ur character to walk around a station to buy items, simply to have a more personalized interaction with other people. Will never happen, since it adds nothing to the game and needs a lot of resources to develop. Originally by: Rehmes -Have more events along the lines of tournaments such as: race tournaments to name best pilot of the race for that period. speed tournamets Small gang tournamets and ofc the good ol corp/alliance tournaments. IN all of these people would get isk rewards and in some special occations they could get an officer/faction module. Perhaps even special ships liek theyve done in the past. That's already being done by both players and CCP (the EVE Racing League is still around somewhere, i thought...) Ill post others when i remember...too much in my head lol. EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.09.16 17:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Jemma Talcot EVE 2? HAHAHA, you only started playing eve about 3 months ago according to your characters age, and you are already asking for EVE 2? Whats wrong? You gutted that EVE's been out for a while so theres a lot more older players than you? Guess what, there will be no EVE 2, EVE is EVE and its ever evolving, theres no need to EVE 2. This, children, is a Troll. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
LaCoHa Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2006.09.16 17:47:00 - [14] Meh, dont knock him. Especially since he hasnt lived through an expansion. That said, there is nothing more exciting then a new EVE content patch..errr.. well maybe my GF doing X to chick Y while I do A to Chicks C, D, and E! (hasnt happened yet, and Im not getting my hopes up)
Vasco Falcon	Posted - 2006.09.16 18:17:00 - [15] -Being able to use ur character to walk around a station to buy items, simply to have a more personalized interaction with other people. Personally speaking id love this, i think it would make the game more immersive/interpersonal instead of us being represented by the ships we fly/a stationary portrait but like the gent above said it would be hard to program and no doubt bring more juicy lag to our systems. A shame, but i dont blame em at all for not introducing them cos if we had mobile avatars/charators CCCP would be guaranteed about 3-4 new threads a day beggin for guns/melee avatar combat with lazer pistols/SWG type karate kid boxing and plant battles, which aint what makes Eve what it is in my opinion.
Bratwurst0r Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.16 18:18:00 - [16] Edited by: Bratwurst0r on 16/09/2006 18:19:24 for me EVE2 will be the one EVE with "node-power on the fly". I dont know if its not implemented in EVE because of the server architecture or the like, but yes, i see the management of systems and thus gameexperience a reason to change EVE so fundamentally that it will be easier to do an EVE2. If i'm wrong...then i hope that the "node-power on the fly" will be the next thing going into EVE, so that we can all enjoy the shiny new stuff. P.S. Characters in stations are not hard to programm....EnB had them already, and thats years ago. The thing is that EVE is not about chars, but about ships. A dev said once: "you will see characters on stations when they also will have a phaser to shoot eachother". Originally by: Aquila Lightwielder I'm sorry CCP you are #200 in queue to use my credit card, please wait
Hamatitio Caldari Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.16 18:40:00 - [17] great sig :) --- I'm going through sigs fast these days.
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.09.16 18:47:00 - [18] Eve 2 will be a First Person Shooter... I wanna use those planetary vehicals damnit!
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.16 19:37:00 - [19] There's no reason for an EVE 2. All other MMORPGs that made a "2" failed because most people don't want to start over and lose all their work. EVE can keep growing and growing anyway. Imagine this in 10 years or so: Once an alliance has an outpost, they can start developing the nearby planet in a sim city-like minigame and than when an enemy alliance attacks the planet, you can go fight them in an fps minigame. Also have enemies boarding ships or stations and fighting them fps style inside there! Well that's my dream for EVE although it'll probably never happpen...
Alerce	Posted - 2006.09.16 20:20:00 - [20] Of course there is a reason for EVE 2. Its something every mmo game will run into, no matter how many expansions. There is a limit till how far you can let characters develop, without making the game too easy or to make it impossible for new chars to keep a chance. Its already way too tricky now for ccp, to invent new skills, without boosting the damage of players too fast. So, that is a reason that an EVE 2 makes sense: fresh start for everyone in a game, that would be mostly similiar and would provide another X years of character development.
coldplasma	Posted - 2006.09.16 20:21:00 - [21] There will never be an EVE-2. It will split the community in two. Look at other games that have had sequels. UT sucked because they made crappy sequels. There is no reason to make an EVE-2 anyway, they might as well jsut give the current game a makeover. ____________________________ See you in 0.0 kids...
Sphit Ker	Posted - 2006.09.16 20:56:00 - [22] Actually I would like to be in space.. not in a submarine pretending to be a spaceship
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.09.16 21:19:00 - [23] It's probably more likely that they start working on a completely different game than on a sequel. There is just too many improvements that could be released over time.
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.09.16 21:35:00 - [24] Originally by: Scorpyn It's probably more likely that they start working on a completely different game than on a sequel. There is just too many improvements that could be released over time. Probably, making a second version of an MMORPG does nothing but divide the community, spend a lot of money, and fail miserably. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.09.16 23:56:00 - [25] We are on Eve 2.13.4516 As for the future of EVE: Epic battles for control of planets!!! I.E. some kind of EVE version of BF2 with troops on the ground fighting, gallentean planetary vehicls with machine guns on them, bombardment from orbiting craft :D That would be the final destination for me... baby it would be hot! ______________________________________
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.17 00:04:00 - [26] I am wondering about Eve2, but not as in Eve-online. CCP's solo credit to date is Eve-online. Do they intend to devleop anything outside Eve? Frankly CCP while doing a great job, relaying in a single IP is dangerous. ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online
Lo3d3R Implant Liberation Front	Posted - 2006.09.17 00:59:00 - [27] EVE2 would be cool... if its really a big difference... but hey it needs allot of creativity, infact... it would take more then the regular intoxication to figure out EVE2... yes Iceland would need a drug clinic as a safetynet to make EVE2. ___________________ Eating Chopped Bear:
Discodude Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.17 01:10:00 - [28] Originally by: Eilie There's no reason for an EVE 2. All other MMORPGs that made a "2" failed because most people don't want to start over and lose all their work. EVE can keep growing and growing anyway. Imagine this in 10 years or so: Once an alliance has an outpost, they can start developing the nearby planet in a sim city-like minigame and than when an enemy alliance attacks the planet, you can go fight them in an fps minigame. Also have enemies boarding ships or stations and fighting them fps style inside there! Well that's my dream for EVE although it'll probably never happpen... Incorrect. All those who go on saying that all MMO's that have a "2" in there title have failed havn't looked into Lineage 2. It is doing just fine, and has a much bigger player base then Eve even though it's been out longer then eve. So yes I think a eve 2 could suceed, thought maybe a better name then "eve 2" would be appropiate. What would I want to see in it? well a new story line based on the far future after the major galactic all out war with the fractions...the political landscape whould have drasticaly changed. Now regions found. changes on where 0.0 and empire are, and totally new set of ships etc.
Coasterbrian Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.17 01:56:00 - [29] Originally by: evistin I am wondering about Eve2, but not as in Eve-online. CCP's solo credit to date is Eve-online. Do they intend to devleop anything outside Eve? Frankly CCP while doing a great job, relaying in a single IP is dangerous. Eve is the lifework of the people steering CCP. In fact, as far as I know, Eve came before CCP did. I strongly doubt CCP will create something new, at least not in the forseeable future. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
Ysolde Xen Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.09.17 02:19:00 - [30] There have been rumours, based I think on a couple of interviews done by the CEO of CCP (or someone to that effect) of CCP having another project in the pipeline. Whilst I severely doubt it'll be an 'EVE 2' - I think there may have been something refuting that possibility in said interviews - it may mean CCP not holding all it's eggs in one IP basket. EVE grows and changes so much that everything it will ever be shall always simply be part of 'EVE' rather than split into closely associated sequel franchises. If its sufficiently different enough to warrant a second game, it's no longer EVE and so 'EVE 2' would be a drastic misnomer. ----- It's not a crap ship, you're just flying it all wrong.
Verizana The Kru Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2006.09.17 02:30:00 - [31] walking around would make it like wow we dont want wow
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Alerce Of course there is a reason for EVE 2. Its something every mmo game will run into, no matter how many expansions. There is a limit till how far you can let characters develop, without making the game too easy or to make it impossible for new chars to keep a chance. Its already way too tricky now for ccp, to invent new skills, without boosting the damage of players too fast. So, that is a reason that an EVE 2 makes sense: fresh start for everyone in a game, that would be mostly similiar and would provide another X years of character development. I realize that it may be many many years before CCP would even consider making a different game or perhaps even elaborate a new EVE 2. However i do believe that its not farfetched to believe that CCp would make a sequel simply because of what this person has said. ATM EVE is growing a lot, 3 years after its creation. It has changed radically since it began. But there will come a point (maybe not yet but in the forseeable future) where EVE will come to a standstill. Because of stagnated growth, not enough ideas to improve tha game unless it would radically change game play etc. However i still ask my question: IF there was a new EVE what would u like to implement, or perhaps see it implememted in the current game?
Stems Gallente Trade Consortium Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.17 03:46:00 - [33] Doubt there will ever be an EVE 2. I can see CCP upgrading and adding content to the game over time. EVE is just going to keep growing and growing and getting better with every passing day
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.17 04:00:00 - [34] I see EVE growing and getting better for many years to come. I guess i just think its natural for all games to come to a point where expanding is a decision of wether doing something so drastic that itl change the game too much, or simply change simple things that wont attract new players. Dont get me wrong this is not a post to ask for the next EVE. I will keep playing this game for as long as i can, and its the one game out there that gives the option to do as i please whenever i please. but i do think at some point in a few years CCP "may" consider a new game to give players a fresh start and a different timeline. I may be dead wrong, but i just think its a natural step for all major games. I think that if it eve happens well get something like this: -new timeline w shifts in power -new sectors of space -many new gameplay options such as planet colonization (not simply having stations there) -ofc new ships as itl be in a different timeline (most likely in the future) -Perhaps even a new race/faction (maybe another civil war within gallente and someone else split off. Or the amarian lost another colony w/e) I dont know but i just think its natural for all major/influential games to get a total remake when they reach a point fo stagnation. If u look at Lineage 2 its preactically there already, all they add is more lvs and more subclasses for u to keep grinding. Look at the original EQ, that game had expansion after expansion, to the point where all u had where new areas/classes/lvs.(though for some reason they seriously dropped the ball on EQ2 ) I believe someday (maybe another 3-5 yr) EVE will come to a point where it must evolve to something newer to give its players something fresh, not simply adding ships and 0.0 sectors or w/e. For now lets enjoy this game and all it has to offer and what the future brings. I simply asked what u guys would like to see in the event CCP would create a new eve OR what would u like to see implemented in the near future.
Mortania Minmatar Carbide Industries	Posted - 2006.09.17 05:24:00 - [35] Name a successful "2" MMO, pls. Lineage II is the only one I can think of. All the other succeeded at sucking, and killing the business of the first version.
arqueturus Minmatar StateCorp	Posted - 2006.09.17 14:23:00 - [36] There won't be an Eve 2 as such - this much is obvious from the way Eve has evolved in the past. Maybe there will be a 'major expannsion' that requires a further outlay but I can't see that either, it's just not how CCP do things. There is, however, another project in the pipeline - I can't divulge what little (second hand) detail I know but I'm told CCP are very excited about it. cheers arq
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.17 15:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Mortania Name a successful "2" MMO, pls. Lineage II is the only one I can think of. All the other succeeded at sucking, and killing the business of the first version. U may be right perhaps L2 is the only succesful mmo to be a sequel, and ill reinstate that thats mainly in korea due to the fact that NA L2 is on a losing track due to its incoherence to NA players. However the mmorpg business as we know it today is relatively new. There have only been a handfull of succesful games. EQ had to get its sequel not because SOE wanted to make something new, it simply wasnt growing any further. They had nothing to maintain/get players to play the game. Wether they did a sorry ass job in the sequel is another topic, but all it takes is a company that will recreate its visions so the old players can be satisfied, while providing something new that will break new boundaries for the nex-gen. So far sequels have a bad reputaion, all u have to do is play the 1st and then see the second to see if that company stayed true to the original fan base and that should answer why they are not succesful. Btw just to say something EQ2 may totally suck for many of the 1st original fans but it hasnt stopped it from getting new players and keep a growth going. Its all about bussiness and when the original game stops growing after many years then its time to get something new out. At the same time you can see there arent that many sequels out due to the fact that most mmos fail with their first inseption. I think the genre needs time in order to start making better sequels while bringing something new to the table which may bring in more people to play cuz at the end fo the day its a bussiness. If CCP made a drastic change that would **** off all players atm, yet gain all the 6m WOW players, then i bet ur ass they would do it, it all about money (btw i hate wow so dont flame that comment, its a crappy game tbh). Anyway i know CCP will keep this game going for many years to come and many of us will be here to keep enjoying it, in the mean time what do u guys think CCP would implement in the near future beyond Kali?
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.17 15:51:00 - [38] The thing is... EVE is the only mmo that has been ~steadily growing~ since it has been let loose on the market. I don't know of any other mmo that could say the same, heh. Oh and creating an EVE2 where you had to restart training your character would probably kill CCP, at least for a while. I hope they just keep expanding it, as if they changed it too much (like, shifting combat from biggish ships to fighters as usual in space games) most players probably wouldn't like it. (not that i don't have some things i absolutely loathe in EVE and would jump on a similiar but even better product immediately nudges ccp but meh , it's still the best for now, and odds are forever, as the other devs are too afraid to step out of the mold of conventional mmos)
Aodha Khan Minmatar Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.09.17 15:59:00 - [39] All of those features can be bolted onto the current Eve. No need to create Eve 2. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Rehmes	Posted - 2006.09.17 16:33:00 - [40] Id rly like to see planet/moon colonization. Not simply putting a POS there, but perhaps have a moon/planet as ur HQ and thus fortify the whole thing. U could only do this to one of them, but it would make for a badass fort. May be a bit hard to take down but the balancing issue is in the devs hands. IN either case i simply want to be able to dock in a station placed on a moon/planet.
Erty Caldari Exilis inc.	Posted - 2006.09.17 16:57:00 - [41] Originally by: Discodude Originally by: Eilie There's no reason for an EVE 2. All other MMORPGs that made a "2" failed because most people don't want to start over and lose all their work. EVE can keep growing and growing anyway. Imagine this in 10 years or so: Once an alliance has an outpost, they can start developing the nearby planet in a sim city-like minigame and than when an enemy alliance attacks the planet, you can go fight them in an fps minigame. Also have enemies boarding ships or stations and fighting them fps style inside there! Well that's my dream for EVE although it'll probably never happpen... Incorrect. All those who go on saying that all MMO's that have a "2" in there title have failed havn't looked into Lineage 2. It is doing just fine, and has a much bigger player base then Eve even though it's been out longer then eve. So yes I think a eve 2 could suceed, thought maybe a better name then "eve 2" would be appropiate. What would I want to see in it? well a new story line based on the far future after the major galactic all out war with the fractions...the political landscape whould have drasticaly changed. Now regions found. changes on where 0.0 and empire are, and totally new set of ships etc. Well, what you fail to mention is that the original Lineage still exists and actually is bigger than Lineage 2 (at least it was last time I checked, MMOGchart seems down so dunno if it's still the case). And also the enormous success of Lineage in Asia... saying that Lineage 2 has a bigger player base than Eve is pretty retarded, it's a completely different game in a different market. So while it may be successful compared to Eve, it's really not compared to the original game. Oldschool newbie.

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