First of all the freighter needs to be acting against you directly for it to count as player versus player.

A bump prespawning concord (no aggression, just there) is literally the best and most hilarious idea I've seen in a while.

First of all the freighter needs to be acting against you directly for it to count as player versus player.

This.

Also, wrong forum.

meh they would just be pulled after the final bump just b4 the actual attack soo

First of all the freighter needs to be acting against you directly for it to count as player versus player.

I will leave all the in depth discussions to others and simply state -1 because of all the reasons stated above.

That and maybe I have a more devious streak than I thought but I can see all kinds of ways that this could be abused.

Understandably people are completely missing the point here and are letting their player bias form their opinions about something that they don't quite understand. The point is that you can completely disappear from player versus player interaction by logging off. That idea is completely broken if you apply it to any other form of PvP.

I think it's you that are missing the point in that there already exist mechanisms in-game to prevent player logoff. You just don't seem willing to suffer the consequences or deal with probing your targets down after they E-warp.

Understandably people are completely missing the point here and are letting their player bias form their opinions about something that they don't quite understand. The point is that you can completely disappear from player versus player interaction by logging off. That idea is completely broken if you apply it to any other form of PvP.

Perhaps if there was a module that created an aggression without going criminal. Neutral agression is a damn stupid mechanic, but so are a lot of the mechanics surrounding ganking. (Don't get me started on faction police...)

No where else in eve can you avoid player versus player interaction once interacted with by logging off, except for highsec ganking.

No where else in eve can you avoid player versus player interaction once interacted with by logging off, except for highsec ganking.

There's already a button for that.
Its called 'activate kill-right'

still -1

I propose replacing cartoon bumping with ... you know... real physics.

I feel the need to whine

Bumping is already so unfair that once you make contact a single time with the freighter, there is nothing anyone can do to stop you from killing them. You just come with enough alpha ships and you can tear through the strongest armor tanked freighter before reps land. Oh no didn't kill it the first time? No problem! Just bump the ship for another 20 minutes, or hour, or ten hours, until you bring in enough waves to kill it. The remote hull reps are so terrible that as long as you break the shield and armor you will always eventually kill it.

Your chance of success in a freighter gank OP is 99.9% and you still want to nerf the 0.1% chance a freighter has to escape alive. Wow.

Since when is shooting people the only form of PvP in eve?

I propose that we should be able to inflict a 15 minute capsuleer log off timer by simply right clicking on a player's name and clicking a button. This can prevent people from avoiding ingame conflict by exiting out of their client, specifically for those freighters who instantly log off when they see a Macharial on gate.

As far as I know, aggression timers were created to keep players from being able to disappear from PvP, and being bumped is a form of player versus player interaction. I cannot tell you how many times a freighter has gotten away from me and has lived simply because he closed his client and left the game for several hours, only to log back on when he has eyes on where he logged off and has made sure the person bumping him is logged off. To be honest, exiting the game to avoid conflict is very unethical and borderline exploitative.

So to make it so this isn't abused, I would give each player the ability to 'tag' every other player once per 24 hours. You can't have one guy 'tagging' the same guy forever, and you can't have an alt 'tag' his main to make it so he can't be caught again.


What are your thoughts? Why is combat the only pvp combat that doesn't allow you to escape by simply closing the client?

This can prevent people from avoiding ingame conflict by exiting out of their client, specifically for those freighters who instantly log off when they see a Macharial on gate.