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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:19:00 -
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The New Venal Alliance was rocked some hours ago by the treachery of CEO Hupa of Terra Nova Corporation [NOVA].
The circumstances of this action are now being examined by NVA councillors and corporations alike, but the permanent facts are as follows;
A raiding party of Biomass Cartel warships entered NVA territory in hostile array, setting course for Venal proper and the capital systems of Y-4 and 6NJ.
Ready on the scene Hupa took responsibility for leading the defence and quickly assembled a mixed force of Terra Nova and assorted NVA vessels.
Over a tense period of waiting the friendly combat fleet grew to a respectable size although many captains reported that Hupa was slow to issue invitations and reticent to offer tactical advice in channel.
Finally the Biomass fleet entered the 6NJ system, moving directly towards the waiting NVA fleet with mysterious unerring accuracy.
Battle was joined, and immediately the Terra Nova ships flashed to hostile status to the NVA gang members and revealed themselves as filthy traitors to the NVA cause.
But though the stars themselves were shocked at the depths of this blatant villainy, the result of the encounter was never in doubt, and bolstered by the two-faced strength of the Terra Nova turncoats, the Biomass fleet swiftly obliterated the weakened NVA opposition.
Terra Nova then joined Biomass in earnest for a riot of raiding and pillage and miscellaneous brigandry, while the NVA members watched in stunned disbelief at the turn of events unfolding before their astonished eyes.
Many ships were annihilated by these false-friends striking like craven thieves with low cunning raised-up in poor substitute to the courage revered by better men and truer friends elsewhere in space.
And while the NVA fleet response was dashed in chaos, so too the communications and channel protocols employed by the alliance; Hupa had given good service for his thirty pieces of silver and had sat up and begged on his hindlegs for the traitorÆs supper, providing Biomass with all NVA codes and passwords and inviting gloating raiders into the company that once heÆd shared with friends and allies alike.
So an evening of disaster and chaos and massacre for the NVA; truly we lost a lot of ships and our alliance was struck a hard blow by a hideous betrayer.
And why?
Well, Hupa was too full of gloating and pompous self-aggrandising to give a pertinent response, but the evidence is clear enough.
Terra Nova had for weeks argued strongly for a total rejection of the NVA Declaration of Principles and an immediate return to the old VA ways of piracy and wanton murder.
Hupa was ôboredö with democracy and open government. He wanted the freedom to levy tolls and murder whomsoever he chose.
And like all small-minded ignorant men he grew annoyed and frustrated whenever his clumsy attempts to derail formal political process were prevented, and as the NVA formalised its lawful constitution and codes of conduct, Hupa drew up plans with Biomass to launch a counter revolution and raise a vast wave of support for a return to ôpirate venalö as a heartland of easy murder and gate-camping dues.
We understand the final deal was struck with Biomass some days ago; and Hupa expected to be joined in his treachery by some half-dozen NVA corps who were (apparently) ôswayedö by his rhetoric and vision as a ôpirate emperorö, and quest to rule a dozen systems from his seat at Y-4.
For their part the Biomass Cartel probably found HupaÆs vainglorious delusions an amusing means to an end; for they certainly have no love for the NVA and the corporations that booted them unceremoniously from the region at the close of the Taggart war.
So what now?
Hupa and Terra Nova have abandoned their honour and become traitors to their former friends, but there certainly hasnÆt been a mass uprising of pro ôpirate venalö corps willing to make Hupa the ôvenal emperorö. One wonders if Hupa has been shopping at RagnarÆs magic hat shop, for his rather woe-begotten band of lazy combatants are hardly to the sort to fight a regional campaign in opposition to a standing fleet.
Indeed, Hupa himself was often heard to remark in NVA channels that the best prey was the helpless and the weak, because fighting seasoned warriors was ôtoo much like hard work.ö
So, goodbye Hupa and Terra Nova and welcome to the NVA KOS list;
Somewhere there must be a place for your dreams,
The universe is full of dungheaps after all.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:24:00 -
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I've no problems with Corps going pirate, and respecting that, but turning on former friends like that really grinds.
Anyway, job nicely done guys. Certainly an interesting twist in the tale.
Good luck to all sides over the next few days, see ya on the battlefield. ---
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TMX
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:41:00 -
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Zzzzz Hupa
I hope you like it, to be on my primary target list. ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge! |

TMX
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:42:00 -
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ow ya and welcome back BioMass / M3G4 ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge! |

AnIntrepidCosmonaut
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:45:00 -
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Only one thing is worse than a pirate, a BACKSTABBING pirate. --------------------------------------------
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.22 09:49:00 -
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So, first there was HitGirl planning a mass coupe, and now Hupa.
I have to say that I'm impressed with Hupa, must have been hard to plan this in such a succesfull way.
I'm curious Jade, will more people leave the NVA like this? Or are you sure you can prevent any more traitors?
This is not a hijack
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:01:00 -
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:17:00 -
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History shows us, traitors like this have only very short life's.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:26:00 -
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Well hupa, I guess that was why you chose to hang around Jan so often in recent times. Would also explain why you didn't want Reikoku hanging around when you were camping. Also explains why you blew up my second in command.
Your lies explaining the accidental shootings never really sat well with me as you had given me a barraging for one of my own members firing a missile off only seconds before. However, I gave you the benefit of the doubt as you were an older NVA member. You can mock my fleet all you want, but if we lose 20 ships to one of your BS then it'll still be a cheap win for me. And believe me it will be worth it.
I hope you have fun as a pirate, camping gates with a fellow bunch of backstabbers.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 22/10/2003 10:40:54 A traitor ensures the wrath of all he betrayed, with such ferocity, as to make his betrayal no more than a signing of his own death warrant.
Biomass and there lap dogs will be out of venal very quickly, we all know they are no more than cowards. Tonight we shall see if they really have the stomach for a fight, I suspect this question was born and answered much earlier, in the days of Mega.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:42:00 -
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Yes we will certainly not show you in Terra Nova any mercy whatsoever.
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.22 10:46:00 -
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Perhaps we need to invent a new euphemism for backstabbing treachery:
You've been Venalled?
You've been NVA'd?
Seems like Venal is just a bubbling stew of jealousy and deceipt.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.10.22 11:23:00 -
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I can see the new upsurge of piratical violence as once again threatening the peace and stability of the galaxy. As atrocity mounts on atrocity I foresee new and stronger bonds between all galactic citizens being required to stamp out this menace.
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.10.22 11:46:00 -
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Biomass,terra Nova,Welcome to hell A kos list you know will be dealt with! _____________
Retirement closing in .
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WarElf
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Posted - 2003.10.22 12:49:00 -
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Yes, Tera Nova Will pay.
GG Tera Nova, any publicity that YOU had is now out the window. And i think you guys know what a bad mistake you made.
I would also like to know what other corps went down to your level.
Until then, you WILL NOT control Venal. And you are crazy if you think you will. I would also like to know how long you have been planing this. Only so I can have MORE motivation to kill you all.
Death awaits you.
~WarElf
~WarElf Occassus Republica
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.22 12:54:00 -
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Quote: Perhaps we need to invent a new euphemism for backstabbing treachery:
You've been Venalled?
You've been NVA'd?
Seems like Venal is just a bubbling stew of jealousy and deceipt.
Nahhh but the asshat spawns are impressive.
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.10.22 12:59:00 -
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What is it with you Venalians that you can't keep your friends? Must be something in the water up there.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.10.22 13:13:00 -
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Biomass, the poor mans M3ga. And M3ga were hardly a threat. I predict this time next week you guys will be smacktalking from empire space again.
KIA needed a good war, now one landed on our doorstep. We shall see what you guys are made of, I'm thinking not much though tbh.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.10.22 13:13:00 -
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Never thought I would say this but...... Good F. Job BMass
Here, Only the silent survive.
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WarElf
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Posted - 2003.10.22 13:38:00 -
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Now, I am sure Biomass are good at PVP Being pirates.
But you cannot say you "pwnt" us or owned us.
I mean, I was dampped by a Nova guy before you came in, of course i thought "I am sure he just made a mistake." but nooooo. Biomass, you are NOT gods. So before all of you come in and say "We smoked you" or wahtever, remember... We were dampped ect. before you even came in.
If it were a fair fight, or even a normal fight, i think we would have won. I now hate Nova more than Biomass... I am just glad i only lost a stupid BB that was insured. But to thoes who really lost something big, i hope they get their revenge, and i am sure they will.
If i were you guys, I would be leaving Venal right now.... But stay if you dare.
~WarElf
~WarElf Occassus Republica
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.22 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Archain on 22/10/2003 13:43:02 I can say that both Biomass and Terra Nova have substantial combat experience. As much as I'd like to say that I don't like them, I have to admit I respect the forces that each can muster on a moments notice. My last Scorpion was lost to Terra Nova forces/NVA. When it came to the defense of Venal I always saw them on the front lines.
This will be interesting to watch, Terra Nova was an awesome NVA defensive force (witnessed first hand) and Biomass are large and ruthless. On the other hand KIA, Occassus Republica, and Bladerunners don't give up. They have a pretty good record of standing their ground.
I hope both sides give us something to read about at work, you guys add content to this game and keep those news agencies in high demand.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.22 13:44:00 -
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Lack of trust is one thing. Lack of faith another. Treachery is the lowest action anyone can perorm. Biomass has been on the Curse Alliance KOS list, we now also add Terra Nova.
At this time I can oly offer the people of NVA my moral support, being somewhat occupied here in Curse. Stand tall NVA.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:11:00 -
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Lets see.
NVA got backstabbed and sold out by their allies.
Karma? 
Congrats on Terra Nova for backstabbing the NVA sellouts before they could backstab you. Excellent decision, good timing, perfect execution.
And i must say that i feel sorry for the NVA, because they obviously got sold out by backstabbers that they trusted and considered friends.
No wait, i dont feel sorry. All i can say is:
What goes around, comes around 
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Sequin
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sequin on 22/10/2003 14:23:11 While I can see why someone would want to leave the NVA if your goals did not match, this is digusting. Treachery is three steps lower than pirating. Congrats, your on my kos Terra Nova. I'll be seeing you.
Edit: Hmm does the nva's treason cancel out terras? Must ponder this.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:29:00 -
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I wish you hadn't pushed this Viceroy, but lets revisit our discussion on the eve of that great proto "karmic" upheveal shall we?
(And lets hear nothing else about SI getting on the high horse about ditching allies shall we?)
(A section of a longer chatlog, this is entirely unedited, the longer section includes some discussion about changing an infiltrated channel password and additional logistics - can be posted if I am challenged but better to be snappy)
Channelname: Viceroy conversation Listener: Jade Constantine Session started: 2003.08.31 14:02:49
[ 2003.08.31 14:38:27 ] Viceroy > goddamn TTI are realy ****s [ 2003.08.31 14:38:44 ] Viceroy > they wouldnt do anything for BYOM or stuff until evo smacked them around [ 2003.08.31 14:38:58 ] Viceroy > then they decided it was time to start helping the alliance out [ 2003.08.31 14:39:06 ] Jade Constantine > they sold us down the river Vice [ 2003.08.31 14:39:18 ] Jade Constantine > and were consistantly lying about their strength [ 2003.08.31 14:39:28 ] Jade Constantine > they now have 30-40 active members [ 2003.08.31 14:39:41 ] Jade Constantine > and can only field a handful of battleships [ 2003.08.31 14:39:41 ] Viceroy > yes true [ 2003.08.31 14:39:55 ] Viceroy > they're an empty can [ 2003.08.31 14:40:00 ] Viceroy > making a lot of noise atm [ 2003.08.31 14:40:03 ] Jade Constantine > for the last week they have been abandoning VA [ 2003.08.31 14:40:17 ] Jade Constantine > and are happy to led the small VA corps carry the cost of the war [ 2003.08.31 14:40:20 ] Viceroy > thats attracting the jackels [ 2003.08.31 14:40:29 ] Viceroy > i totally agree [ 2003.08.31 14:41:11 ] Jade Constantine > I challenged them to proportionally funding a VA defense budget [ 2003.08.31 14:41:21 ] Jade Constantine > said Jericho would ante up 50m [ 2003.08.31 14:41:30 ] Jade Constantine > if they would ante 500m [ 2003.08.31 14:41:44 ] Jade Constantine > their directs called us bums looking for charity [ 2003.08.31 14:41:57 ] Viceroy > well they can go to hell then [ 2003.08.31 14:42:02 ] Viceroy > arrogant ****s [ 2003.08.31 14:42:17 ] Jade Constantine > well yes .. **** them [ 2003.08.31 14:42:31 ] Jade Constantine > Jericho has a bigger active fleet than they do [ 2003.08.31 14:42:32 ] Viceroy > we should have never let them back into the alliance [ 2003.08.31 14:42:37 ] Jade Constantine > and thats incredible [ 2003.08.31 14:42:40 ] Viceroy > after they backstabbed us the last time [ 2003.08.31 14:42:44 ] Viceroy > i said it then [ 2003.08.31 14:42:52 ] Jade Constantine > yep ... we will do a lot better without them [ 2003.08.31 14:43:04 ] Jade Constantine > and gain time to recruit some new corps and grow [ 2003.08.31 14:43:26 ] Jade Constantine > the piracy thing is going to be difficult for a bit ... but I can see ways round it [ 2003.08.31 14:44:03 ] Viceroy > just convince those evo *****s that we're not TTI alts [ 2003.08.31 14:44:27 ] Viceroy > damn i hate negociating :) [ 2003.08.31 14:46:41 ] Jade Constantine > yeah it does suck [ 2003.08.31 14:46:48 ] Jade Constantine > but we need time and space to grow [ 2003.08.31 14:47:07 ] Jade Constantine > FA are slightly tied by the anti piracy crusade [ 2003.08.31 14:47:12 ] Jade Constantine > they need to show a win [ 2003.08.31 14:47:30 ] Jade Constantine > mostly I'm suggesting TTI is the scalp they will finish with [ 2003.08.31 14:47:57 ] Viceroy > yeah, dont let the burden of defeat fall on SI :) [ 2003.08.31 14:48:15 ] Viceroy > just make it seem like TTI are the *****s [ 2003.08.31 14:48:17 ] Viceroy > which they are
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:32:00 -
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lol xx Vice
TTi were never sold out, doesnt matter how many times you say it, it will never be the truth. They made their own fate the day they turned on the council for an honest vote. TTI were leading the forces of the Va to nothing but certain defeat and destruction of the small corps such as oursleves, whilst they sat pretty on top of thier piles of cash shilded by the cannon fodder they shied away from. The vote was to remove them temporarily whilst forces were rebuilt, that vote didnt get passed, as the majority of the VA corps sided to stand by TTI and see the war through to the end that would mean certain destruction for those corps. That is the reality of what happened.
The Ragnar used his pr skills to the max, and changed everyone mind in an instant, the rest is history.
My counscience is clean, there is no possible way Novas can be, they will pay hard for their moment of madness, they dont have the numbers or the determination of the NVA, and they aren't fuelled by a righteouss anger that consumes my corp right now, they will run when they take losses, we will stand firm till every BS/Cruiser/Frigate/Egg we have is lost.
War will be declared on both parties, and we shall see Nova and Bio corps go the same way as TTI, or we will die trying, this is my promise as CEO of KIA.
Lets get it on, we been bored recently anyways.
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Nasty Ways
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:33:00 -
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ouch. that must've hurt, viceroy...
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:37:00 -
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Monsieur Sequin,
Quote: While I can see why someone would want to leave the NVA if your goals did not match, this is digusting.
As can we, and we have seen some corps leave and leave honourably because they did not wish to be part of the regional alliance the NVA are making.
Quote: Treachery is three steps lower than pirating. Congrats, your on my kos Terra Nova. I'll be seeing you.
It is the very lowest. Terra Nova sleep with the worms and crawl on their bellies now in the eyes of all honourable fighters.
Quote: Edit: Hmm does the nva's treason cancel out terras? Must ponder this.
There are parellels but not in the way Space INvaders and Biomass have suggested.
Previously Ragnar reached for his guns after winning a democratic vote and destroying the council in his madmess.
Now Hupa and Terra Nova have abandoned the NVA after losing a democratic vote on the future direction of the NVA.
They wanted a return to "pirate venal" and because they were in a tiny minority and lost, chose instead to chase their aspiration with treachery and falsehood.
What we see is that lunatics and petty tyrants cannot handle the idea of voting; their own egos do not allow them to consider the concept of debating issues and accepting the will of the majority.
Love and peace
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:51:00 -
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Quote: (And lets hear nothing else about SI getting on the high horse about ditching allies shall we?)
Amen
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.22 14:52:00 -
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I cant really see anything wrong with that log. i didnt like TTI, i opposed the VA when they took them back into the alliance after they bailed on us during the first evo attack, but SI did support TTI so i did aswell.
They didnt pull their weight in the alliance imo, but SI did. We always supported the VA the best we could, we fought battles, hunted enemies, lost assets etc. and we got backstabbed.
When the opportunity rised to kick this "empty can that made a lot of noise" i supported it personally, because they didnt pull their weight.
But i'm not a member of TTI, i'm a member of SI, which gave FULL support to the VA and got backstabbed in return.
So my point is once again:
NVA got backstabbed by sell outs that they trusted as good allies and friends.
Just the way it happened to SI.
(And Jade, I was obviously mistaken when i thought you were above the level of disclosing personal conversations, so i trusted you when we talked. I guess i should have followed the rest of the mob when they said you were a "wet PR *****". its sad to see that you've fallen so low and discared personal honor in the name of your crap-full PR campaign) -
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