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Molly
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Posted - 2003.10.23 10:24:00 -
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Quote: Lets see.
NVA got backstabbed and sold out by their allies.
Karma? 
Congrats on Terra Nova for backstabbing the NVA sellouts before they could backstab you. Excellent decision, good timing, perfect execution.
And i must say that i feel sorry for the NVA, because they obviously got sold out by backstabbers that they trusted and considered friends.
No wait, i dont feel sorry. All i can say is:
What goes around, comes around 
Yeah.
Watch Jade, she is posting a lot of crap now again to hide the obvious :-). -- Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone. -- |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/10/2003 10:37:24
hurrah! Molly is back and she is posting rubbish! Now we know we have the bad guys on the run ;)
And mr Biomass, do get real m'dear, just how much do you think a load of insured battleships actually costs to replace?
In many ways cruisers are more hassle because your tend to lose more prototype gun.
And just so you know ... I had my valuation of the loot done by your own people. If they over-egged it then Blame Biomass.
Love and peace
(Oh and by the by, Biomass have never been off our KOS - well, apart from Hupa and the traitors)
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.10.23 10:51:00 -
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You've made some rubbish when you lose 4 battleships and 8 cruisers to people you would like to see on a "dungheap".
You did understimate them. Why? Because you are a PR person. And those have no clue, just a huge text output.
And it's not rubbish when I say "well done" to the others.
You might want to read my post in the "Advanced Piloting Techniques". You got your arse handed by a trick I used to do often (ask Hanns e.g.) and yet you scream here like a dying pig... -- Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone. -- |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:05:00 -
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Err what Molly? "advanced piloting?" I thought the only lesson you were qualified to give was;
"Molly's guide to self destructing a fully-loaded Megathron in an excess of angsty teenage pique"
In that department you are, I admit, an qualified expert.
Now run along home you tragic pirate carebear noob...
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:15:00 -
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Quote:
Err what Molly? "advanced piloting?" I thought the only lesson you were qualified to give was;
"Molly's guide to self destructing a fully-loaded Megathron in an excess of angsty teenage pique"
In that department you are, I admit, an qualified expert.
Now run along home you tragic pirate carebear noob...
Yup. Pull some more stuff from the past.
What purpose? Nothing else to say? Because I don't care.
I am looking forward to your next PR story. -- Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone. -- |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:23:00 -
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yep because a persons past is so not-relevent to their current opinions right Molly?
so if thats the case? why do you spam every thread about the NVA harping on about the imaginary "betrayal" you feel the Space Invaders suffered when they cosied up to Ragnar?
Could it be ... hypocrisy?
Just maybe ...
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:36:00 -
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perhaps we need to make a new thread about NVA vs SI?
seriously, I think we simply disagree with eachother and no amount of explaining, spinning and arguments will change that.
In short, SI feels betrayed and VA backstabbed.
from my side: I'm sorry you felt betrayed when SI toke their leave, we felt it was really our time to go.
I applaud Nova for such an action as I admire the guts and planning. Eventhough its low, I still see the genius of it.
This is not a hijack
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:48:00 -
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Problem is Lianhaun, you didn't just "take your leave" you pledged common cause with ragnar and were specifically named in his prepared speech to the VA council. That shows prior intention to stitch us up whichever way the vote went.
Second problem (displayed most eloquently by Drunken Master) is that SPVD cannot understand alliances and warfare. Hence your membership were blind to the realities of the inevitable outcome of the FA/VA war.
DM soulfully asks why SPVD had to give up pirating in PB and Venal...
The answer was "we lost the war"
Its not about treason and treachery and payoffs and nonsense.
Its about the fact that the VA lost.
And a price had to be paid.
I am annoyed that I negotiated in good faith on behalf of SPVD and got stabbed in the back by your members ... but then, I was always warned never to trust pirates.
Re Terra Nova.
We have to disagree. They are muppets and already finished as a corporation. Most have either left for Biomass or quit the Terra Nova cause.
This action was a suicide pact for that corp.
Their reputation cannot survive what was done.
And see Limpy Bint's comments further up this thread to see what some of the Terra Nova membership thought of Hupa's treachery...
It speaks volumes.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.23 11:59:00 -
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Ragnar made a annoucement where he named SI, as far as I know it was not supported by us. We decided not to get in it because we had enough of politics allready. If you mean the speech he gave on the chat, Id like to see either logs of it or hear from others who were there.
Sometimes its best to let people believe in their own illusions. They really think that we get free battleships, why should we deny it? Let them think that we have entire fleets full of 'em.
And I know you have to disagree on many things, and you are free to do so. As I stated before, I doubt we can change our views and feelings in a single thread.
The latest betrayel of NVA doesn't deserve to get its thread hijacked in this manner.
This is not a hijack
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 12:26:00 -
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Well lets be honest here; it seems clear that SPVD took the opinion that the compromise I got for them was not good enough and constituted a "betrayal" hence absolving them from any subsequent betrayal in return. (Like the deal with Ragnar) ... I personally find it impossible to believe that Ragnar didn't get some verbal promise of a deal from SPVD, he certainly did from Paladins (the other pirate corp named on the declaration).
Re battleships, well, still being brutally honest, it suited our PR campaign to have the SPVD being gifted battleships. Some foolish people in Taggart boasted that they were equipping their pirate allies in such a way, and because they obviously weren't (with the exception of M3G4) it became easy to win both public sentiment and private NA disagreement by painting SPVD as Taggart "head boys" at the same time you were nowhere to be seen. Alls fair in love and war. We didn't lie, we merely repeated unsubstantiated taggart claims verbatum.
Of Ragnars speech, I am talking about the famous declaration where he lauds "our friends in space invaders" etc. And says they will help collect the 100m bounty on my head.
Remember this was published about 3 hours after I finished getting SPVD off the ejection demand from FA.
I wished I hadn't bothered ... but there's pirate gratitude ;)
Quote: The latest betrayel of NVA doesn't deserve to get its thread hijacked in this manner.
Its okay, this thread is alreay done.
Terra Nova are pretty much finished.
Their name is in the dungheap and their members gone.
If you want to talk about these things it may as well be here.
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.10.23 12:46:00 -
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Quote: Jade I cant wait to run into you or your goonie friends. From what I hear your carbear ways have made all you crappy pilots.
Well, the lot they got 'protecting' EC-P8R would fit that description.
Ran circles round them ( 8 of them! ) this morning, even managed to avoid their 50 python mined at Tor gate.
As for protecting, I managed to conduct my normal business and picked up 3 corpses. Surely 8 ships would have enough brainpower between them to watch all 3 gates?
We had a good laugh afterwards anyway.
As for Jade, she doesn't do patrols or fly about, but if she did im sure she'd be the first any opposing force would go for. (And thats not because you write so well!) 
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:10:00 -
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I see the magic hat is still circulating...
Ragnar's gift to the world of Eve. Chaos and Stupidity... all in one.  |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:19:00 -
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Mr Ning Pong Gooly,
Quote: As for Jade, she doesn't do patrols or fly about, but if she did im sure she'd be the first any opposing force would go for. (And thats not because you write so well!) 
You seem to forget m'dear than when I do fly patrols I am always the one everyone shoots at, I really am thinking of flying about in an armoured battleship brick called "lightning conductor"
And really hun, I was dodging Space Invaders at EC-P8R while you were in diapers ...
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:56:00 -
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Bit off topic, but how did you reach the controls?
Yes, such a difficult task that, dodging 50 mines around a gate. Those 500m detonation radi are a real btich to avoid. ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them. |

Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:51:00 -
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Well sorry to say Jade, but Gan ning never had diapers when he was a baby, hence why im angry with the world! 
But seriously I'm wondering how you fight in Pvp. Do you lock them down and talk them to death or do you just send them a 9 page ransom forcing them to give up on page 2 and self destruct their pod?
As I type this i'm heading right for the heart of Venal! Maybe you should out that kettle on again. 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:59:00 -
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Quote: But seriously I'm wondering how you fight in Pvp. Do you lock them down and talk them to death or do you just send them a 9 page ransom forcing them to give up on page 2 and self destruct their pod?
Now thats funny ;)
Sadly I am probably amongst the single worst PvP fighters in eve according to my record.
2 battleships, 7 cruisers, 3 indies, 3 frigates I have lost.
And in return guess what I have killed?
1 frigate, 1 indy, and one cruiser ...
(and the cruiser was a friendly fire accident that had the gang in stitches of hilarity.)
My crowning moment so far has been locking down a M3G4 battleship for about 30 seconds until their fleet turned up and turned me to space debris.
Suffice it to say, yep, I very much need alternative approaches because as a PvP pilot I'm willing to bet that there aren't many with a record as bad as mine ;O)
Ah well, theses things happen
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:14:00 -
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Aw Jade, dont feel bad. I'm sure your combat skills are better then my mining skills. I'm really not the one to do mining ops with, orestealing is a different matter.
This is not a hijack
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:18:00 -
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I wouldn't mind Lianhaun, but I'm really crap at mining as well. Lord knows where my 4.5m skill points have gone ... ;)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:31:00 -
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"I wouldn't mind Lianhaun, but I'm really crap at mining as well. Lord knows where my 4.5m skill points have gone ... ;)"
... Social, Diplomacy, Fast Talk, Media, Negotiations, Public Relations, Ethnic Relations, Empathy, Evasive Maneuvering, Motion Prediction and Surgical Strike?.. :s
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.10.23 16:51:00 -
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j0sephine is always able to say the perfect thing at the perfect time! I couldn't bear to read these boards without her. 
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:12:00 -
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Quote: j0sephine is always able to say the perfect thing at the perfect time! I couldn't bear to read these boards without her. 
Yeah and combine that with the sig and it's no wonder she's one of the more popular posters.
See NVA and SI can agree on somethings.
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:42:00 -
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I would watch gan ning hes got a history of turning against his friends.
As for terra nova, take a look at members and you would see Di shiere, gan nings old Ceo, no wonder they turned pirate.
Useless traitors
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