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Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 258	Posted - 2015.01.17 02:56:54 - [31] - Quote CODE? Haven't seen them when I'm mining in over 5 months. They still around? "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.01.17 03:02:39 - [32] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: [...] more importantly shows who you side with. The side that embraces emergent gameplay, enforces risk and has fun with the game, or the AFK bot-aspirants doing nothing but watching thier ISK counter climb ever higher? That also means you can make an ideological statement by NOT buying a permit, and it's free! Those CODE guys won't care since they never look at their ISK counters ...
Damnskippy Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel 10	Posted - 2015.01.17 04:07:22 - [33] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: Buy a permit? what a waste of money lol. If they apear just move and if you cant run either try and hold on with a tank till concord gets there or just do as much damage as possible before you die. Why would i waste isk giving it away? Thats just silly . Bad poster, naughty . I have a hauling alt. It flies in a providence that has a rack full of complex nano plating. Her head is filled with a high-grade slave set. After spending all that isk, it's asinine not to spend 10 million more on a permit. Anything can be ganked. I take whatever reasonable steps that are in my power to minimize that risk.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 470	Posted - 2015.01.17 07:28:36 - [34] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Black Pedro wrote: [...] more importantly shows who you side with. The side that embraces emergent gameplay, enforces risk and has fun with the game, or the AFK bot-aspirants doing nothing but watching thier ISK counter climb ever higher? That also means you can make an ideological statement by NOT buying a permit, and it's free! Those CODE guys won't care since they never look at their ISK counters ... Of course. And no, an agent isn't going to notice the lack your 10M ISK - that is not even two catalysts. Share purchases and our faith fuel our fun. Pick a side and have fun playing the game. Just don't come to forums claiming the game is broken when your 200 M ISK exhumer vaporizes out from under you because of your ideology. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Renard Solo Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2015.01.17 08:52:13 - [35] - Quote Nope sorry but still not worried, hope you have fun. Target denial is still the way to go and if im caught? Well its just a game so I just hope my explosion makes pretty colours
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 470	Posted - 2015.01.17 09:26:01 - [36] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: Nope sorry but still not worried, hope you have fun. Target denial is still the way to go and if im caught? Well its just a game so I just hope my explosion makes pretty colours Good. You are playing the game. Don't live in fear of some bogeyman like much of the AG channel. Play the game how you like. The New Order claims all of highsec so if you mine in our space without a permit you may get a visit from our agents. Only you can decide if that risk to you for non-compliance is worth the 10M ISK. Whatever you choose, we are making highsec a more interesting place and actually win in either case. The Code always wins. The only way you can really "deny us targets" is if you stay always docked up or move out of our jurisdiction. The first option is silly and while I guess we also win there, that really isn't our goal. The second may actually expand your horizons to what Eve is and you should consider trying at least once. So to summarize your plan to defeat us is to obey the Code in all ways except for purchasing the permit? Sounds like another win for the New Order! But seriously, you have figured it out. This is just a game and the best way to play is to pay attention and engage with it and others, have fun and be respectful to your fellow players. The New Halaima Code of Conduct is just a document to generate conflict and emergent content in the game - embrace that as you like. And when you get bored of mining solely to make that meaningless ISK counter keep climbing ever upwards, drop by the minerbumping channel and see what life on the other side can be like. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Renard Solo Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2015.01.17 09:34:48 - [37] - Quote I bet a lot of the code guys have mining alts too and afk/bot mine as well. If so that's a brilliant scam, use code to clear out miners where you want to be and move your own miners in lol. You even get others to pay you for it, bravo its an excellent way to play. I think its great tou have found this way to do it, really independent thinking. Its making eve a very interesting game environment watching the biggest scam of all I love it
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 350	Posted - 2015.01.17 10:33:51 - [38] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: I bet a lot of the code guys have mining alts too and afk/bot mine as well. If so that's a brilliant scam, use code to clear out miners where you want to be and move your own miners in lol. You even get others to pay you for it, bravo its an excellent way to play. I think its great tou have found this way to do it, really independent thinking. Its making eve a very interesting game environment watching the biggest scam of all I love it. Its also really easy to avoid to keep doin what I do. Well done and thankyou. Mining alts? Yes, they have hauling and industry alts too; as gankers they know the techniques gankers use and who the gankers are, as such they know how to avoid them. AFK/Bot mining? Extremely doubtful, that's just asking to get ganked; and in the case of botting, banned. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 742	Posted - 2015.01.17 10:48:04 - [39] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: I bet a lot of the code guys have mining alts too and afk/bot mine as well. You don't need a mining alt if your targets drop ore. While I do use the ore to produce the ganking materials (to get a steady stream of modules and Catalysts for a good price without a lot of market dependence) I don't do it to gain ISK. It seams that a lot of miners can't wrap their head around the fact that some players don't play the ISK game. the Code ALWAYS wins
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 471	Posted - 2015.01.17 11:16:13 - [40] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: I bet a lot of the code guys have mining alts too and afk/bot mine as well. If so that's a brilliant scam, use code to clear out miners where you want to be and move your own miners in lol. You even get others to pay you for it, bravo its an excellent way to play. I think its great tou have found this way to do it, really independent thinking. Its making eve a very interesting game environment watching the biggest scam of all I love it. Its also really easy to avoid to keep doin what I do. Well done and thankyou. Nah, most Code enforcers are in it for the fun, not ISK. We actually want to play the game, not AFK mine or bot to accumulate ISK for no reason. That said, several of them probably do make and sell mining equipment near where they gank for an income stream, and much of our funding may come from players who mine and want thier competition repressed. That is the game though. Eve is a beautiful sandbox where we are all competing with each other on multiple different levels. You can influence the sandbox is many ways, some obvious, some not. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Renard Solo Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2015.01.17 11:50:09 - [41] - Quote Yup, im going to have fun watching it and have fun actively avoiding it too so I win both ways lol
Miss Masquerade Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2015.01.17 17:37:00 - [42] - Quote I afk mine all the time, never seen a gank happen in or around "my" neighborhood. My guess is that they are all ganking in the lonetrek region, close to jita for easy access to ships and fitting. I used to run missions there, and I saw quite a few "incidents" back then. That's why you afk mine solo, in a remote system.....50 jumps from the rest of the world o7
Renard Solo Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2015.01.17 18:14:30 - [43] - Quote Like it nice one
Varathius Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE 148	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:13:29 - [44] - Quote this game would be boring without CODE, plus, I just love reading CODE threads... CODE here, CODE there, keep them coming please !!!
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 159	Posted - 2015.01.18 20:06:36 - [45] - Quote Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS!
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 440	Posted - 2015.01.19 01:04:27 - [46] - Quote tbh I've never actually seen code win. 600 billion isk lit on fire, and highsec much the same as before. If it were a corporation, it would be in chapter 7 liquidation.
Dream Five Renegade Pleasure Androids 479	Posted - 2015.01.19 02:56:04 - [47] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: tbh I've never actually seen code win. 600 billion isk lit on fire, and highsec much the same as before. If it were a corporation, it would be in chapter 7 liquidation. ikr i've been hauling on autopilot like crazy, their calculated efficiency is about 0.2%. So it's 99.2% propaganda 0.2% truth, there's nothing they can do to stop highsec carebearrs. The numbers are such that you basically have to have no life with many people (30-40) vs 10000s to be a substantial threat to hordes of highsec carebears who mostly don't give a **** and have safety in numbers. What they are trying to do simply can't be done as their propaganda is weak and execution requires dedicated work from many people around the clock. Most people also don't really care/don't like griefing carebears.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 440	Posted - 2015.01.19 03:00:45 - [48] - Quote Dream Five wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: tbh I've never actually seen code win. 600 billion isk lit on fire, and highsec much the same as before. If it were a corporation, it would be in chapter 7 liquidation. ikr i've been hauling on autopilot like crazy, their calculated efficiency is about 0.2%. So it's 99.2% propaganda 0.2% truth, there's nothing they can do to stop highsec carebearrs. The numbers are such that you basically have to have no life with many people (30-40) vs 10000s to be a substantial threat to hordes of highsec carebears who mostly don't give a **** and have safety in numbers. What they are trying to do simply can't be done as their propaganda is weak and requires dedicated work. Most people also don't really care/don't like griefing carebears. Tell me about it....6 months of running incursions....dozens of code threats to blow us up and shut us down...and actually finding a new order agent is harder than Where's Waldo? You do have to respect their propaganda effort....it's hard to create such an image of competence, while bearing absolutely no connection to objective reality.
Dream Five Renegade Pleasure Androids 479	Posted - 2015.01.19 03:01:54 - [49] - Quote Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: I also recommend paying the ransom whenever you get bumped in a freighter I recommend "Log off safely" while screaming anti-James 315 propaganda in local pretending to be scared shitless. Or actually just log off safely pretending to be AFK.
Dream Five Renegade Pleasure Androids 479	Posted - 2015.01.19 03:06:12 - [50] - Quote Gorila Vengaza wrote: Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS! Disgusting traitor.
Rez Valintine Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 36	Posted - 2015.01.19 04:05:39 - [51] - Quote Dream Five wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS! Disgusting traitor (grr). Everyone knows you have no loyalty to any cause including CODE's "cause" Explain?
Jurico Elemenohpe The Maythorn 76	Posted - 2015.01.19 05:11:30 - [52] - Quote Rez Valintine wrote: Dream Five wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS! Disgusting traitor (grr). Everyone knows you have no loyalty to any cause including CODE's "cause" Explain? I think he's the AG mod that joined CODE. Not sure though.
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 191	Posted - 2015.01.19 05:59:15 - [53] - Quote another lame idea that would require everyone in eve to know and act on this, soon youll be saying don't fly orcas, bow heads, and freighters so you don't get bumped jumping into a system and ganked "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Ritsu Asakura State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 07:03:39 - [54] - Quote Renard Solo wrote: Buy a permit? what a waste of money lol. If they apear just move and if you cant run either try and hold on with a tank till concord gets there or just do as much damage as possible before you die. Why would i waste isk giving it away? Thats just silly . Bad poster, naughty . To be honest 10 Mill per year? anyone with a mining barge can earn that in an hour maybe less so imagine how much you could earn in a year 100 Trillion maybe and trust me Taking 10 million from 100 trillion is nothing I do agree that CODE shouldn't enforce their rules on anyone with less than 1 million skill points though sine most people like that Don't have 10 mill yet
Mineur Maulerant Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 10:09:02 - [55] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: tbh I've never actually seen code win. 600 billion isk lit on fire, and highsec much the same as before. If it were a corporation, it would be in chapter 7 liquidation. Judging from the amount of ISK in the New Order Treasury I would say this is an inaccuracy. As long as we law-abiding citizens of Highsec and believers of player-created, emergent gameplay continue to donate the Catalysts will keep flying. It is quite the financially successful operation. But, it's not about the money. It's about the mission. Investing in the New Order is investing in a better tomorrow for Highsec.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 476	Posted - 2015.01.19 14:33:00 - [56] - Quote Dream Five wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: tbh I've never actually seen code win. 600 billion isk lit on fire, and highsec much the same as before. If it were a corporation, it would be in chapter 7 liquidation. ikr i've been hauling on autopilot like crazy, their calculated efficiency is about 0.2%. So it's 99.2% propaganda 0.2% truth, there's nothing they can do to stop highsec carebearrs. The numbers are such that you basically have to have no life with many people (30-40) vs 10000s to be a substantial threat to hordes of highsec carebears who mostly don't give a **** and have safety in numbers. What they are trying to do simply can't be done as their propaganda is weak and execution requires dedicated work from many people around the clock. Most people also don't really care/don't like griefing carebears. It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums. Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 857	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:47:23 - [57] - Quote Jurico Elemenohpe wrote: Rez Valintine wrote: Dream Five wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS! Disgusting traitor (grr). Everyone knows you have no loyalty to any cause including CODE's "cause" Explain? I think he's the AG mod that joined CODE. Not sure though. He is, and we welcomed him with open arms. Meanwhile he continues to receive nasty comments and messages from his former colleagues. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 161	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:47:35 - [58] - Quote Rez Valintine wrote: Dream Five wrote: Gorila Vengaza wrote: Let CODE. win? but..but..the CODE. ALWAYS WINS!..ALWAYS! Disgusting traitor (grr). Everyone knows you have no loyalty to any cause including CODE's "cause" Explain? Explain? I spent almost a year In Anti-Ganking as a mod and running an Antiganking Blog. When I began my hopes were to see AG vs Code become something like RVB. What I found were very few people willing to do anything. There are some but not many. Mostly I saw toxic people like Veers who do nothing but TALK. I believe to play a game you should be AT YOUR KEYBOARD.. I got tired of trying to save AFK people so I joined CODE and have had much, much more fun.
Gorila Vengaza The Conference Elite CODE. 161	Posted - 2015.01.19 19:58:16 - [59] - Quote And before anyone starts crying at me "if you were a mod, why didnt you do something about the Toxic people??" I did. Im one of the few people alive who has had the absolute pleasure of GAGGING Veers.
Renard Solo Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2015.01.19 21:24:58 - [60] - Quote To paraphrase code whatever happens im enjoying eve immensly so in that sense i win, i always win lol

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