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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.10.22 21:32:00 -
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I have to laugh, after just discovering the "new" map options (haven't been in the game since just after beta), seeing that there is some pretty serious/nasty pod destruction going on in Sarus Prime (looking on the map). No doubt it involves gate camping and the jump-in exploit.
Anyone know who the culprits are?
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.10.22 21:34:00 -
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Ummmm no?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.22 21:45:00 -
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That would be Sarum Prime and Biomass Cartel since about a month.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.22 22:19:00 -
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Yeah we have chased em out a few times but we are not a big enuff corp to have 24hr protection on the system...
TBH all it needs is a regular patrol of 3 battleships as the pirates run at the slightest sign of opposition!
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.22 22:49:00 -
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I have to laugh, after just discovering the "new" map options (haven't been in the game since just after beta), seeing that there is some pretty serious/nasty pod destruction going on in Sarus Prime (looking on the map). No doubt it involves gate camping and the jump-in exploit.
Anyone know who the culprits are?
Camping the Jump in point is not a exploit, ask GM white yourself. As for the pie message, you are completly wrong there. We run when you guys double our numbers, you wont ever fight a even fight.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.10.22 22:53:00 -
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How hard is it to reproduce the word "Sarum"?
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W1rlW1nd
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Posted - 2003.10.22 23:07:00 -
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yes, it is tank and his crew camping the jump in spot, no it is not an exploit. yes they've been squishing pods in alarming numbers at the amarr-sarum jumpin almost every day for the last month. Yes it is very disturbing since sarum prime is one jump/right next door to the amarr home noob system (via superhighway).
we would be pleased to join with other corps to help patrol that system. it is kinda embarassing in fact that so much carnage can be allowed to happen every day right next to highsec space. amarr based corps should help police that system. tank is doing his job, we should rise to the challenge and do ours.
-w1rl
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.10.23 00:41:00 -
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As for the pie message, you are completly wrong there. We run when you guys double our numbers, you wont ever fight a even fight.
*sigh*
Says he Who Sits Upon The Jump In Point Ganking Indies In A Scorpion.
Heh...
Your truth is a lie. Simple as that.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2003.10.23 02:51:00 -
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Jump in points are not working as intended. Camping jump in points that are not working as intended would be exploiting that flaw. Therefore it is an exploit abeit not one that CCP much cares about it seems.
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.10.23 02:55:00 -
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No doubt it involves gate camping and the jump-in exploit.
Sorry, but its not an exploit, period.
Although these bastards got me, its no use making a petition about it because it simply isn't an exploit.
Maybe i should be more like DREAMWORKS and say "If i can't kill you, i'll petition you" . . . Nah. 
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Jag Terran
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:01:00 -
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Those who whine about jump-in camping should get their act and brains together instead of explaining away their own stupidity on jump-in points not working as intended. How about for once jumping in using several battleships? Is that too difficult?...especially after seeing the number of podkills. I admire carebears who can coordinate their efforts. I pity those who are incapable of doing so... you'll continue to end up in Tank's hangar as frozen bodies ;)
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:01:00 -
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Jump in points are not working as intended. Camping jump in points that are not working as intended would be exploiting that flaw.
Please edit your post and add "IMHO" to the above line.It might be your opinion that its an exploit, when in fact CCP has cleary stated it isn't.
MMORPG's are forever evolving, so although this feature might be subject to future change (like everything in eve. .) that does not mean its in any way, shape or form an exploit now.
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Kinjite
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Posted - 2003.10.23 03:48:00 -
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Bah! Argueing with the Honorless is a wate of time
All Warfare is based on deception - Sun Tzu
Chief Security Officer - Kusari Systems
"and Death shall have no dominion"
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 04:37:00 -
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*sigh*
Says he Who Sits Upon The Jump In Point Ganking Indies In A Scorpion.
Heh...
Your truth is a lie. Simple as that.
I dont have a Scorpion, I fly a Raven, get your facts straight bud.
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Daemun Khanid
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Posted - 2003.10.23 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Daemun Khanid on 23/10/2003 07:08:00
One Sarum Prime pirate lost his BS tonight. Merckiller. And you, your raven, and any other pirate found in any system in Amarr space will eventually meet the same fate. Have a nice night Tank, sleep easy.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.10.23 08:48:00 -
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I like that: "just jump in with 3 battleships". I've got a blooming rifter and am a week away from a tiny cruiser. I'm not jumping anywhere atm!
I thought the lag jump-in time was an exploit, not the gate camping itself.
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Daphne Moon
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Posted - 2003.10.23 09:19:00 -
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I thought the lag jump-in time was an exploit...
Oooh, you're not allowed to call people who use it to gain an unfair advantage exploiters! Naughty! Smack!
Lame to the point of contempt? Yes. Exploiters? Noooooooo!
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.10.23 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Slinky Redfoot on 23/10/2003 09:56:31
I've been online since Pirate BBS's, baud modems and 20mb hdd's.. *waves to all the fellow newsgroup lurkers*
Remember the good old days, sitting in front of the computer swapping 200 odd 5.25" floppy's and hitting the Y key.
Anyway to the point, lag happens.Drones, Missles, Cans, Wingmen; they all cause lag to a certain extend.Hell we got *******s now who think its funny to spell their names out in anchored containers, or in 0.0 belts/gates to get me killed.And these people are not pirates either.I've lost 2 ships so far because of bad warp in points w/anchored containers.Normally if you warp in with 3 40-50k sancha spawns on your ass, you can hit MWD and "GTFO" 
 Anchored cans lasting FOR ALL ETERNITY is just crazy.Tie it in with the Anchoring skill, so lvl1 anchoring gives two weeks of anchor-age, and lvl5 three months.
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Skorp
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Posted - 2003.10.23 09:58:00 -
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The more death amarr the better. ;)
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Skorp,
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Psychopath
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:28:00 -
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You guys are pathetic. Accept that pirates are part of the game.
 Vote Psychopath for Minmatar Emperor
A Corp 1 pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea |
Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 13:44:00 -
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You guys are pathetic. Accept that pirates are part of the game.
Shame that Pirates can't accept ill-feeling towards gate campers is also part of the game.
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eve player 70
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Fuktup on 23/10/2003 14:04:25
"You guys are pathetic. Accept that pirates are part of the game"
There is a discernable difference between a Pirate and a Player Killer. The problem here is that not enough people realise that.
The funny part is that Pirates know the difference whilst Player Killers do not.
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Counselor Goltherlon
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:30:00 -
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How many pirates are out there? More than non-pirates pc? If pirates can get together and kill ppl, why is non-pirates are not able to form big corp and big alliance to kick their asses? Dont tell me that non-pirates are outnumbered.
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djrouz
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:49:00 -
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i don't think i've PK'd in more than a week - i'm definetly a pirate though - even if i do PK
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Reil Shashanna
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Posted - 2003.10.23 14:58:00 -
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How many pirates are out there? More than non-pirates pc? If pirates can get together and kill ppl, why is non-pirates are not able to form big corp and big alliance to kick their asses? Dont tell me that non-pirates are outnumbered.
Would you be interested in joining and contributing to such a corp Mr Goltherlon?
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:02:00 -
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How many pirates are out there? More than non-pirates pc? If pirates can get together and kill ppl, why is non-pirates are not able to form big corp and big alliance to kick their asses? Dont tell me that non-pirates are outnumbered.
Kinda hard to kill the Pirates if they camp jump-in points yet run like hell when something _does_ break through the blockade.
Running away: "Tactics" when used by Pirates, "Carebearism" when used by anyone else.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:11:00 -
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Is the jump-in point from Amarr the same as the jump-in point from the other direction?
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:12:00 -
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Is the jump-in point from Amarr the same as the jump-in point from the other direction?
I believe so.
I've done a fair bit of jumping between Tash-Murkon, Amarr and Ethernity...looks as if I land in the same place each time.
Can't say for definite, though.
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Draka
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:13:00 -
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What irritates me about this situation is from a roleplaying/realistic viewpoint. (At this point ya'll can take that "Carebear" **** and shove it). For those of us trying to get immersed in the storyline and other facets of the game, the mere fact that such an operation can be mounted AND SUSTAINED over any lengh of time in one of the home systems of a major House, especially the most militant one, is extremely jarring.
In any sane and serious rendering of this game, such a system should be so heavily garrisonned and patrolled by the Amarr Navy, and House Sarum private forces that any unauthorized activity should be observed and INSTANTLY met with overwhelming force. ESPECIALLY at the Jumpgate to/from the Amarr system itself!
CEO
The Cinnaban Order
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Parallax 7D
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:16:00 -
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Camping jump in points is legal and acceptable for now. Once the devs change things around it may become harder or impossible, but still legal and acceptable.
Does losing your ship under any circumstances blow? Yes
Does losing your ship b4 you even had a chance to take action blow? Yes
Something blowing doesnt make it wrong though..
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Oosel
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:20:00 -
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the jump in point from amarr into sarum and irnal into sarum are defo the same you jump in at planet 2 i think you'll know if you jump in even if its not being camped as there is a giant secure container there as you jump in
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Terrapin
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:21:00 -
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Camping the Jump in point is not a exploit, ask GM white yourself. As for the pie message, you are completly wrong there. We run when you guys double our numbers, you wont ever fight a even fight.
So, blasting someone's ship to space dust before this person even has a shadow of a chance to fight back is an even fight?
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eve player 70
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Fuktup on 23/10/2003 15:32:17
Edited by: Fuktup on 23/10/2003 15:30:38
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i don't think i've PK'd in more than a week - i'm definetly a pirate though - even if i do PK
OK fair point. I will try and make my point this way then....
Its a shame that some people do not know the difference between a Pirate and a griefer.....
*tip* Pirates do not sit at jump in points 1 hop from a noob starter system and gank anything and everything that comes through the gate.
Ok just to rebutt what has already been said here by a certain party....
No, it's not an exploit, it's just low down, dirty, rotten, slimey tactics. Not to mention morally reprehensible, and beneath most people.
There I said it, does that make me a carebear or does it make me a person with higher moral standards than others? In fact dont bother to answer I already know what certain parties will call me  |
Khyan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Khyan on 23/10/2003 15:43:07
Edited by: Khyan on 23/10/2003 15:42:19
Edited by: Khyan on 23/10/2003 15:40:14
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We run when you guys double our numbers, you wont ever fight a even fight.
later that day in Waterloo...:
Wellington : So, Napoleon, do you have the same number of soldiers as me?
Napoleon : Not really... we have alot more, and i mean ALOT
Wellington : Men! lets RUN!!
How can you 'even' a fight... its impossible. In my eyes you (the pirates) are pathetic. i can live with the fact that pirates are ingame so you'll have to live with the fact that someday a large fleet of players will come to kill you.
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Pyrus Cydonia
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Posted - 2003.10.23 15:49:00 -
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i currently offer my services to a number of people who pay me quite handomely to camp out in local in Sarum
from there i can let these people know when it is clear to pass through and when to avoid Sarum
this service is available to any who desire it - eve mail me in game |
Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:09:00 -
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Sure, you guys got Merc's battleship, big whoop, but I also heard he took out 1 of your armegeddons right before u took him out.
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Daemun Khanid
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:39:00 -
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Actually he didn't even scratch a single Armageddon. He focused all of his fire on the single cruiser that was there and failed to destroy it before he was in a pod.The cruiser docked and made repairs and is still in service.
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Ian Wagner
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Posted - 2003.10.23 17:49:00 -
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What irritates me about this situation is from a roleplaying/realistic viewpoint. (At this point ya'll can take that "Carebear" **** and shove it). For those of us trying to get immersed in the storyline and other facets of the game, the mere fact that such an operation can be mounted AND SUSTAINED over any lengh of time in one of the home systems of a major House, especially the most militant one, is extremely jarring.
In any sane and serious rendering of this game, such a system should be so heavily garrisonned and patrolled by the Amarr Navy, and House Sarum private forces that any unauthorized activity should be observed and INSTANTLY met with overwhelming force. ESPECIALLY at the Jumpgate to/from the Amarr system itself!
Yeah, that was my gripe too, just picture the Succession Board looking over each heir's qualifications regarding their stance on piracy..
Jamyl Sarum "I vow to keep all of the empire as safe as I do my home system!" or "Well, I'd like to sweep in with the military forces at my command, but my home has been declared a .4 system, so my hands are tied.."
Oh yeah, I want this woman as the next Empress
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 18:47:00 -
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Welp, guess he didn't but anywas, good for you. But don't pat yourself on the back so much, u did have 3 battleships shooting him while he had blockading equipement on, no one will last very long with that on.
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:12:00 -
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Welp, guess he didn't but anywas, good for you. But don't pat yourself on the back so much, u did have 3 battleships shooting him while he had blockading equipement on, no one will last very long with that on.
You try to kill people before they even have a screen loaded. Don't pat yourself on the back either, exploiter.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:27:00 -
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Sarum and Hama are currently safe for transit... Although Tank will prolly log on again later
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/10/2003 19:43:27
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You try to kill people before they even have a screen loaded. Don't pat yourself on the back either, exploiter.
Do you see me braging about it and btw, everything that im doing in Sarum Prime is exploit free. 2 GMs came and checked it out and left without saying a word so shuve it up ur ass.
And yes, I will be loging back into Sarum Prime later, I have stuff to do, o and Pie, your odds will be evened when I get back
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.23 19:43:00 -
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Exuse me where did I say anything about exploits?
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 21:56:00 -
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I was speaking to Rath 'Pie'
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EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.10.23 22:21:00 -
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As much as it pains me... Tank CEO is right he is neither a cheater or an expoiter.
That said. Take a look at this thread and see if you like the idea.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=40061
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.10.23 23:17:00 -
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Sarum and Hama are currently safe for transit... Although Tank will prolly log on again later
No danger though, he can't even kill an Iteron Mark II.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.10.23 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tharrn on 23/10/2003 23:23:47
No, but they are employing *very* lame tactics... like tonights alt spy in a n00b corp. Whoever it was, he didn't believe me that I did not loose Amarr standing for pod-killing him. Here's the screenie, voila... my new sec rating of 0.5 is shown (3.4 before) as is my Amarr standing of 10.0.
We don't expect pirates to take 7 vs. 1 fights, but some sportsmanship would be nice.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/ophistes/images/screenie.JPG
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 23:53:00 -
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Sarum and Hama are currently safe for transit... Although Tank will prolly log on again later
No danger though, he can't even kill an Iteron Mark II.
Brag all you want sweety pie, just a note that you are 50km away and that there were other battleships approaching. I didn't really care to kill you. Also, fire power isnt everything sweety pie.
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.23 23:53:00 -
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Sarum and Hama are currently safe for transit... Although Tank will prolly log on again later
No danger though, he can't even kill an Iteron Mark II.
Brag all you want sweety pie, just a note that you are 50km away and that there were other battleships approaching. I didn't really care to kill you. Also, fire power isnt everything sweety pie.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2003.10.24 10:41:00 -
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"Please edit your post and add "IMHO" to the above line.It might be your opinion that its an exploit, when in fact CCP has cleary stated it isn't."
I don't need to add "IMHO" because CCP have clearly stated that jump in points are supposed to be on the other side of gates near sentries. Because they're not working like that then taking advantage of the bugged jump in points is exploiting that problem.
I really couldn't give a **** if people are doing it as I'm careful when I jump into systems but it annoys me when people state thats somethings not an exploit when it is.
Its just one that CCP can't or doesn't want to penalize people for at this time and it will be FIXED (meaning its broken currently) in the next patch.
Infinity
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2003.10.24 11:37:00 -
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Although there should be SOME piracy within Empire borders it certainly shouldn't be happening at Sarum Prime !! 
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MOOrovingian  "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.10.24 12:47:00 -
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Well as stated above it was kept clear last night by the CVA (at least during European peak times)!
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moocows
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Posted - 2003.10.24 13:06:00 -
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lol Tank doesn't change  complaining that he doesn't get a fair fight with people who break up his blockade ROFL. Your the best carebear i've seen "i can't camp gates next to starting systems anymore!*whine**whinge**b*tch*" Next it will be "CCP!! Why is everyone podding me?  *b*tch a bit more*" lol
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.10.24 13:10:00 -
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Aye, as I said elewhere, if this is how well Sarum looks after her own system, I pity the empire if she wins the championship.
As for BioMass, I've run from them and seen them run, they have no intention of fighting fair, (As evidenced by my shield damage before i'd even logged into system) and neither do I. 
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