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Admiral Starbuck Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Admiral Starbuck on 26/09/2006 19:03:37 Cloaking devices need serious nerfing because you can stay all the day logged on in safespot using cloaking device and nobody won't find you. I know some pirates who use this lame tactics. Someone keeps his alts all the day logged on and cloaked. If someone logs in and starts to mine with his barge, he will warp on and try to kill miners. And if there are some people who try to kill him he warps off his SS and hits cloak button. btw, he is friend of RA.
Frarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:53:00 - [2] Best Post Ever
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:53:00 - [3] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck Cloaking devices need serious nerfing because you can stay all the day logged on in safespot using cloacking device and nobody won't find you. And thus, your argument falls apart. Look up the defention of a cloaking Device anywhere... this is EXACTLY what they're supposed to be for. BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Cornelius Murphy International Brotherhood of Eve Workers	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:54:00 - [4] Darn, beat me to it Noone can take you seriously until you do the following: 1 - Learn to spell 2 - Come up with a reasonable argument. Nothing to see here, move along...... ------------------------------------------
Polaskii Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:57:00 - [5] Post with your main.
Jastra Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:57:00 - [6] lose your ship to a cloaked vessel recently did ya ?
lofty29 Gallente Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck Cloaking devices need serious nerfing because you can stay all the day logged on in safespot using cloaking device and nobody won't find you. Then why are you complaining?! --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg Noes i got beat by a girl >.< - Xorus
Admiral Starbuck Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Cornelius Murphy Darn, beat me to it Noone can take you seriously until you do the following: 1 - Learn to spell 2 - Come up with a reasonable argument. Nothing to see here, move along...... The reasonable argument is that I have lost many ships bacause of this wtfpwnging overpowered module. Thats all.
lofty29 Gallente Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck Originally by: Cornelius Murphy Darn, beat me to it Noone can take you seriously until you do the following: 1 - Learn to spell 2 - Come up with a reasonable argument. Nothing to see here, move along...... The reasonable argument is that I have lost many ships bacause of this wtfpwnging overpowered module. Thats all. You're still in a nubcorp, and complaining that you die due to superior skills / tactics?... Can I have your stuff? --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. I pwnz0r your sig, muahaha - Tirg Noes i got beat by a girl >.< - Xorus
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:06:00 - [10] Edited by: MrMann on 26/09/2006 19:06:28 Honest <yeech I hate that word> advice from a member of the -10 Sec Status club. If you are mining in .4 or lower watch Local like a hawk. Anyone pops up in local . . . immediately check their info. If they look piratey in any manner, get out of the belts pronto. For this to work for the pirate he has to: 1) Log on. 2) Find you (if he hasn't already with his Covert Ops Alt). 3) And then warp to you. Thus you do have time to see him log on, check him out, and haul butt out of there before he gets to you. He's not going to log on right on top of you. In .4 or lower the happy miner is the ever vigilant miner. Killing a miner who is alert is very hard. Killing one that is complacent is all too easy. Better yet . . . if you are going to mine in .4 or lower do it in a group with lots of body guards. Fly Safe and remember . . . Be Poliet: carry good loot, I got kids to feed. _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.
Rahn Sohwant	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:08:00 - [11] Cloaking doesn't keep the pirate from appearing in the Local chat channel. Ignore local at your peril. Would you actually scan down his safespot if he wasn't cloaked and clear him out before you brought in your barge? So what does it matter?
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:08:00 - [12] Wait till "recon probe launcher" comes out..
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:08:00 - [13] Wait till "recon probe launcher" comes out..
K'ang Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Rahn Sohwant Would you actually scan down his safespot if he wasn't cloaked and clear him out before you brought in your barge? So what does it matter? ^^ Pwned !! Truer words ever said ? /K'ang
Polaskii Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck The reasonable argument is that I have lost many ships bacause of this wtfpwnging overpowered module. Thats all. If its so Uber use it yourself.
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:58:00 - [16] Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.26 19:58:00 - [17] If you know excatly what is going to do, you have no excuse for getting killed. Infact, it should be very simple to setup a simple trap for him, no?
Jetzin	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:04:00 - [18] What a load of bull, cloaks are already expensive enough. If he's able to afford it and you not, well that sucks for you.
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:05:00 - [19] So if you couldn't use a cloak to, y'know, CLOAK what use would it be exactly? Hmm? This is like asking for missiles to be nerfed because they fly towards your ship and blow up! Make them stop!!1111oneone.
Admai Sket	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:09:00 - [20] How CAN you nerf a cloaking device? you could only remove them altogether - you can't have a cloaking device that makes you half-invisible. perhaps an uncloaking device that makes you appear brighter?
flummox Circle of Jerks	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:15:00 - [21] Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. um, no... and, um... fuel?? ... bring me my cheese...
Hakera Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:17:00 - [22] this will be mostly fixed in the scanner/probing changes for kali where probes will be able to lock onto cloaked signatures though not precisely.
Druadan Gallente Aristotle Enterprises	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:20:00 - [23] Originally by: Admiral Starbuck Edited by: Admiral Starbuck on 26/09/2006 19:03:37 Cloaking devices need serious nerfing because you can stay all the day logged on in safespot using cloaking device and nobody won't find you. I know some pirates who use this lame tactics. Someone keeps his alts all the day logged on and cloaked. If someone logs in and starts to mine with his barge, he will warp on and try to kill miners. And if there are some people who try to kill him he warps off his SS and hits cloak button. btw, he is friend of RA. You seem to be arguing two points. Are you arguing that people shouldn't be able to sit in a safespot with a cloaking device, or are you arguing that people shouldn't use alts for recon? Alts for recon is metagaming, so I agree with that ... a bit ... but sitting with a cloaking device in a safespot is absolutely fine. __________________________________________________ "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
Admai Sket	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:20:00 - [24] Originally by: flummox Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. um, no... and, um... fuel?? perhaps 'cap' rather than 'fuel'
Too Kind	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:22:00 - [25] Edited by: Too Kind on 26/09/2006 20:23:03 Afaik (!) you can probe cloaked ships in Kali, but they stay cloaked, once you arrive. But I think it will be easier to decloak them in that case, than now. There you have your nerf. -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:22:00 - [26] Originally by: flummox Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. um, no... and, um... fuel?? Yeah, Fuel. Next time do your own research. Why does everyone love the "log in a cloaking alt, leave it on all day in hostile space" tactic? It's lame. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:27:00 - [27] Actually I totally agree with the OP. Also on topic stations need nerfing too! People can dock in them and stay there all day and no one can get them! Nerf stations! ===============================================
flummox Circle of Jerks	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:28:00 - [28] Originally by: Gift Originally by: flummox Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. um, no... and, um... fuel?? Yeah, Fuel. Next time do your own research. Why does everyone love the "log in a cloaking alt, leave it on all day in hostile space" tactic? It's lame. i meant ingame, dude... and, no, it's not 'lame'. you're lame... ... bring me my cheese...
Admai Sket	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:28:00 - [29] Originally by: Scoundrelus Actually I totally agree with the OP. Also on topic stations need nerfing too! People can dock in them and stay there all day and no one can get them! Nerf stations! And high sec! NERF high sec! people can stay there all day and be ok too!
Admai Sket	Posted - 2006.09.26 20:31:00 - [30] Originally by: flummox Originally by: Gift Originally by: flummox Originally by: Gift Edited by: Gift on 26/09/2006 19:58:47 1 Change I could see that wouldn't be to drastic is make cloaks burn fuel. It doesn't have to be at a fast rate, just enough so you can't afk cloak all day. EDIT - not my idea, just read it somewhere. um, no... and, um... fuel?? Yeah, Fuel. Next time do your own research. Why does everyone love the "log in a cloaking alt, leave it on all day in hostile space" tactic? It's lame. i meant ingame, dude... and, no, it's not 'lame'. you're lame... Lame

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