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Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.09.27 16:54:00 - [31] Originally by: KadaEl I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. Are you on drugs? Dark Shikari>Death Kill, saying that anime is a fetish makes you racist.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.27 16:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Kusariqqu Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? CCP did. End of discussion. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Exiled One Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.09.27 16:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: KadaEl I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. Are you on drugs? He must be a former WOW player, you know the ones that **** off to their female elf characters and have sex on the forums.
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:00:00 - [34] Originally by: KadaEl Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: Kusariqqu Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? who made that crap up? CCP, the people who make the game decided it. Unfortunately they forgot to code it in. They were never intended to do mission/complexes. People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with. I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. It is a bit off character for a mod to snap at a user. But I wanted to say exactly what he said. [;)]
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:02:00 - [35] Originally by: Exiled One Touchy git. For once i agree with an ISD mod and you should go have a healthy **** you carebear. It was stated from day one that cap ships were not intended for use in complexes/missions/PVE. First of all, when you take that tone it totally devalues whatever you say next. Secondly, I don't use a cap ships for complexes/missions/anything. Though, it still isn't fair to bar a certain type of ship from doing missions. I'm not saying bring it back. Seeing a Dread enter a level 4 mission makes me die a little on the inside. No, what I'm saying is even the field. Ravens should not be allowed to do the same thing in level 3 missions what a Chimera did in level 4 missions. ------------------------------------------- KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:02:00 - [36] Originally by: Inspiration Originally by: Sharkbait the change to complexes was not done because of the titan. capital ships were never meant to go into complex's and therefore was going to be stopped. the fix was done about 2 weeks back, maybe 3 but we just needed to wait til we can patch both server and client to deploy the fix. afaik there is no way to get a capital ship into deadspace complexes Not complexes no, but missions, yes! Simply be at a bookmark in system where the mission will respawn....then....do a 'fake' warp to the start of the mission. Abort warp and see the mission get instantated around you. Now press that doomsday weapon and loot! Unless there have been changes to this game mechanic to, individual mission levels are still farmable! People can be so resourcefull! What are you talking about? If you warp to a plex-style mission it'll send you to the entrance. If you're doing something to prevent it from sending you to the entrance, that's called bug abuse. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: KadaEl I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. Are you on drugs? Yes ------------------------------------------- KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:03:00 - [38] Originally by: Exiled One Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: KadaEl I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. Are you on drugs? He must be a former WOW player, you know the ones that **** off to their female elf characters and have sex on the forums. Wrong. ------------------------------------------- KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:04:00 - [39] Originally by: Za Po Originally by: KadaEl Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: Kusariqqu Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? who made that crap up? CCP, the people who make the game decided it. Unfortunately they forgot to code it in. They were never intended to do mission/complexes. People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with. I'm sorry, but that's very immature for someone who is a forum moderator. You're supposed to stay at a respectable level, if you want to talk down to people then don't post with your ISD account. It is a bit off character for a mod to snap at a user. But I wanted to say exactly what he said. [;)] I'm not saying what was said was invalid, but thanks for understanding =) ------------------------------------------- KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:10:00 - [40] Unfortunatley kada it's the way of the eve board atm... Unless it can be shot down as a whine or a rant, it doesn't qualify as a post (given most of the boards current population) As constructive as me/you/others are with valid points all relating are... it will be shot down by the trolls and flamers that currently infest this board.... But you're right, it's sad to see moderators doing it too ______
aeti Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:10:00 - [41] Originally by: Sharkbait afaik there is no way to get a capital ship into deadspace complexes slowboat it \:D/
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:15:00 - [42] Originally by: aeti Originally by: Sharkbait afaik there is no way to get a capital ship into deadspace complexes slowboat it \:D/ Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
Powder Monkey	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Galk Unfortunatley kada it's the way of the eve board atm... Unless it can be shot down as a whine or a rant, it doesn't qualify as a post (given most of the boards current population) As constructive as me/you/others are with valid points all relating are... it will be shot down by the trolls and flamers that currently infest this board.... But you're right, it's sad to see moderators doing it too Doing what too? What bloody valid points? Who the hell are you to come here and tell the devs that they are WRONG? Suck it up and adapt and learn to fly a damn battleship properly.
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:19:00 - [44] Originally by: aeti Originally by: Sharkbait afaik there is no way to get a capital ship into deadspace complexes slowboat it \:D/ CEO - Art of War
MrBadidea Caldari Syndicate Of Shadows	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Galk Originally by: Ediz Daxx All rejoice! No more uber rich carebears doing missions in carriers. Missed the bigger picture though i think... i for one (ubber rich) will be heading with my fleet of ubber ships to a high sec missioning to continue to (carebear) isk from missions. Nice rounded faction ships with officer mods.. slave/crystal implants.. no chance of them being ganked.... The reality you miss i think, ccp shoot themself in the foot It's people like you that give mission runners a bad name. ---
Lazy8s	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: Kusariqqu Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? who made that crap up? CCP, the people who make the game decided it. Unfortunately they forgot to code it in. They were never intended to do mission/complexes. People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with. Three things. First, you just opened yourself up to alot of incoming flames. Secondly, as a programmer I know there is no such thing as "we didn't intend it but forgot to code it" on this sort of magnitude. If, however, by some CRAZY slip-up they DID forget to code it, they would have patched it within a week or so of carriers coming out. It is obvious they didn't think of it and they are now fixing a booboo which is ok, but don't say it was never intended but we "forgot" to code it for months. Obviously it was a quick, small fix. Lastly, it was theirs to begin with and it did get taken away. They could do it before and now they can't. See? If CCP had come out 2 or 3 days later and said "we forgot to lock you out, this will be fixed in a week" then there would be no crying but that's not how it worked. CCP just needs to say "it was overpowered now live with it". By trying to cover themselves they are just looking like idiots or liers. Now that's out of the way I agree with it. If you trained carrier just for lvl4 missions I empathise because that's alot of wasted time, however you should have seen this coming. Nothing that good ever lasts in an MMO.

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:39:00 - [47] Reminder: If you disagree with moderation Email Us Read the Forum Rules Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules - Read 'em! \| Website

Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:50:00 - [48] Originally by: Eldo Davip Reminder: If you disagree with moderation Email us at [email protected] Read the Forum Rules i dont know whats wrong, but when i clicked on this email us button. windows kept on popping up, every 1 second. i had to close about 50 of em to stop it. Edited out the old link just so that other people dont have problems -Eldo - Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:52:00 - [49] Originally by: Roxanna Kell i dont know whats wrong, but when i clicked on this email us button. windows kept on popping up, every 1 second. i had to close about 50 of em to stop it. i just used the HTML "mailto:" option. Anyways i removed it. Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules - Read 'em! \| Website

luckless	Posted - 2006.09.27 17:57:00 - [50] Originally by: Eldo Davip Reminder: If you disagree with moderation Email Us Read the Forum Rules you know im sorry but there was nothing in that post by you that was any way a moderation issue you were not moderating the forum you were answering a question posed by a poster not moderating the forum in it self. They have every right by the forum rules to say aything back at you they want please reread the forum rules yourself if your going to be posting them to try and chastize someone else please. Now with that said i agree that it was said that the devs didnt want cap ships in the complex's.
Ilya Murametz Caldari Hybonashi Industries	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:00:00 - [51] Originally by: luckless Originally by: Eldo Davip Reminder: If you disagree with moderation Email Us Read the Forum Rules you know im sorry but there was nothing in that post by you that was any way a moderation issue you were not moderating the forum you were answering a question posed by a poster not moderating the forum in it self. They have every right by the forum rules to say aything back at you they want please reread the forum rules yourself if your going to be posting them to try and chastize someone else please. Now with that said i agree that it was said that the devs didnt want cap ships in the complex's. Thank you and exactly Luckless, i'm taking it this a little higher now, this is a joke! _____________________________________________ Originally by: some nub ..aka recovering WoW person What lvl can I start PvP ?
Dr Progenitor Alternate Life Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: Kusariqqu Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? who made that crap up? CCP, the people who make the game decided it. Unfortunately they forgot to code it in. They were never intended to do mission/complexes. People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with. You know, I can't fly a capital ship, nor am I in any uber corp/alliance, but what I want to know is that how can CCP help the people that were just about to do the super complexes with capital ships and there have been established corps/alliances making hundreds of billions doing this for the past few months? Whether you intentionally meant to prevent capital ships from doing complexes is inconsequential. They have been, and now there up and coming corp/alliances are out on the street cold while the strong corp/alliances have been exploiting for the past few months solidifying their base.

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:06:00 - [53] Originally by: luckless Originally by: Eldo Davip Reminder: If you disagree with moderation Email Us Read the Forum Rules you know im sorry but there was nothing in that post by you that was any way a moderation issue you were not moderating the forum you were answering a question posed by a poster not moderating the forum in it self. They have every right by the forum rules to say aything back at you they want please reread the forum rules yourself if your going to be posting them to try and chastize someone else please. Now with that said i agree that it was said that the devs didnt want cap ships in the complex's. I did not say that with regards to any specific post, it was just a general reminder. I was preventing the thread from being derailed. Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules - Read 'em! \| Website

Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Lazy8s Three things. First, you just opened yourself up to alot of incoming flames. No he didnt, but 'not so gifted' people would have issues with understanding what he wrote thus making a fool out of themselves. Quote: Secondly, as a programmer I know there is no such thing as "we didn't intend it but forgot to code it" on this sort of magnitude. DO you work for CCP ? Thats right, stfu. Quote: It is obvious they didn't think of it and they are now fixing a booboo which is ok, but don't say it was never intended but we "forgot" to code it for months. Obviously it was a quick, small fix. Even if things are like you claim....CCP Godzilla, you Japan. Dark Shikari>Death Kill, saying that anime is a fetish makes you racist.
loony thezoon	Posted - 2006.09.27 18:31:00 - [55] How can you play eve long enough to get a carrier without understanding what eve is all about? Its time to make capital ships only useable in 0.0 so the idiots don't even get the option. If you are so upset by this, then just leave the game. You won't be missed.
Elrich Zann Minmatar Hidden Agenda	Posted - 2006.09.27 19:06:00 - [56] Well there is one thing about this that is bad imo. While I agree that a carrier is significant overkill for lvl 4 missions, I was hoping they would fit in with the "Fleet" concept of lvl 5 missions when they get introduced. Since all missions are going the route of deadspace, I guess lvl 5's will either never come about, or be battleship only. Not exactly a "Fleet" when capital ships are excluded.
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.09.27 19:07:00 - [57] Originally by: loony thezoon How can you play eve long enough to get a carrier without understanding what eve is all about? I don't see gold bars on your post. You don't decide what EVE is about. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Martinez Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:11:00 - [58] Originally by: Kusariqqu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who said capitals shouldnt be used for missions? who made that crap up? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CCP, the people who make the game decided it. Unfortunately they forgot to code it in. They were never intended to do mission/complexes. People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with. kind of a big oops huh? i mean how many trillions have been made between now and when capitals came out. i am not **ed about the change as i cannot fly a carrier anyways. i am **ed about the timing. people have made billions upon billions doing these things in capital ships and now 9+ months later a patch is put out to fix it. to me ccp saw a large wave of characters about to get carriers and decided to stop it before they could start the missions. ccp should have fixed this back in say febuary before every mission runner had one. as far as lvl 4s are easy in a bs yes maybe but you have done the low sec cosmos missions either then. get back to me after you try and go at that thing with anything other than a fleet of bs. you may finish it then but you will still lose alot.
Nerfherder2000 Gallente Nanotechnologists Are Nurturing Outer Space Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:36:00 - [59] Those getting at Eldo , back off and listen to yourselves for a second, eh? CCP finally closed a big hole in mission running. Carriers were not meant for mission running, they are logistics and support ships for fleet and group fights, all you need to do is take a look at the bonuses the ships get (not to mention no turret/launcher hardpoints). And if you are thinking of arguing that they would then still be valid mission ships as they could support offensive ships inside the mission, now you're making an assumption, namely that missions were ever meant to be run in groups. If that were the case, CCP would have introduced even a basic form of reward sharing already (bounty sharing is hardly relevant in this matter, as it applies outside of missions too). I can't decide what I think about lowsec complexes though. Those are often very hard and definately require groups to run, so it's not clear to me if they should be allowed in complexes or not. So, those that trained carriers for lowsec mission running. I can sympathise with you being angry over your multi-billion investment no longer being usable for what you wanted, but I don't sympathise with you for getting angry at the devs for finally fixing something that was - in their own words - unintended. I also don't sympathise with you getting angry at a moderator for slapping you across the face to break you out of your hysteria, so to speak. Explain why you feel it should be reversed, don't resort to this "omfg ure bneig unprfoessionall!!11" bickering.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.09.27 20:43:00 - [60] Edited by: w0rmy on 27/09/2006 20:44:07 Originally by: Eldo Davip I did not say that with regards to any specific post, it was just a general reminder. I was preventing the thread from being derailed. As you were discussing action taken by yourself, a moderator... Please dont discuss moderation, it is against the rules. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?

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