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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.09.28 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: spurious signal on 28/09/2006 12:53:12
Originally by: Hellspawn01 It was not intended as a flame (lazy about this topic, yes). Just think about some facts:
-GTC and char sales dont really fit into the sales forum (personal and public opinion) -its been suggested a fair number of times with everyone that replied agreeing -Devs and mods said they hand the suggestion to the right parties.... nothing happend -Devs and mods agreed to look into it.... nothing happened
How long does it take to create a new sub forum for it? Some minutes for the name, right position (under sell orders perhaps) and the right access for mods. Done. (I had a forum once too.) I cant imagine that it takes days or weeks for a small group of ppl to say "yes" or "no" to a small request like this that benefits the eve society.
You say you had a forum once too. Did that forum have over 100,000 users and forum avatar portraits that interacted and were drawn from a complex database that connected to a game run on a cluster that was approaching being included in the top 500 supercomuting clusters in the world?
My point is that I'm sure it's a LOT more complex than "Some minutes for the name, right position (under sell orders perhaps) and the right access for mods".
I also imagine there's a list of priorities for various sections of the CCP staff and that the forum team may have things that are much higher priority.
And yes, I know this now sounds like I'm defending the very thing my original post was asking about, but I didn't intend my original post to sound like yet another uninformed whine but as a genuine request for information.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.28 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/09/2006 12:52:36
Originally by: Dark Shikari
That's good, but it won't change anything. Who would want to look at a bunch of auctions and be unable to bid on them? And what about all the people who live in 0.0 and can't spend 2 hours going to Jita every time they want to buy something?
I dont know... If I saw something I really wanted, I would probably travel down to the region and put some bids on it. Its pretty quick to travel between regions... in empire, anyway. :)
For the ones in 0.0, it will be more difficult, yeah.
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.28 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 28/09/2006 12:58:36
Originally by: spurious signal Yesterday there were about 7.5 pages of new threads
Don't worry, it's going to increase radically when escrow gets removed.
Oh and spurious signal? With a high-performance database backend and the appropriate hacks, you can easily run a phpBB of the scale of these forums. WITH all the modern forum features.
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 13:15:00 -
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Seperate out character sales too while you're at it - most of the pages tend to consist of char sales / time cards, and that really is irritating.
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.09.28 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Oh and spurious signal? With a high-performance database backend and the appropriate hacks, you can easily run a phpBB of the scale of these forums. WITH all the modern forum features.
TBH I know nothing about that kind of thing, I'm a biologist :p
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:02:00 -
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So, again, no response to this issue from CCP.
A simple "we want to keep it like this for our own reasons" would be better than nothing (marginally).
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:21:00 -
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If this topic were about oveurs hair, it would already be filled with dev responses.
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Damon Ra
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:27:00 -
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CCP's response (if you actually get one) will likely be that the new changes to the market system coming soonÖ will "fix" these problems.
However, the new market system will not address the fact that many players use the sell forums OUT OF GAME because they can't spend 100% of their time in-game.
If they just stripped out GTC sales to their own area it would improve things dramatically.
GTC Sales need their own forum... If you agree, petition CCP to PLEASE fix this! |
Kaynard Stormwalker
Stormriders
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Posted - 2006.09.28 18:48:00 -
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Even if their forum control panel for mods is REALLY crappy they can make new subforums within 30mins. So its hardly and effort and its obvious that such a small gesture will help a lot.
Not to mention, people OVER AND OVER bump 10, 20, 100 times a day THE SAME DAMN TOPIC and dont get punished for it.
I mean, for ****s sake, how hard is to understand ONE BUMP PER DAY ? If you dont, you dont deserve posting rights.
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:30:00 -
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We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
forum rules | [email protected] You mean to tell me, theres a game that goes with the forums?
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Serenity Steele
Rearden Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:40:00 -
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Contracts should reduce this significantly if implemented properly.
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Darksaber64x
Ecchi co.
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:45:00 -
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Since contracts are going to be regional only, I don't foresee much of a decease in the useage of the sell forum... the whole reason there are people on the sell forum is so they can get the galaxy wide attention to their item that they want, so people can bid and stuff without moving. I agree with Dark Shikari, Jita will probably just get MORE clogged, since you have to be in the region to bid on the stuff there, instead of just popping in for a second to get your escrow
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bluecheast
Four Rings Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:03:00 -
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Totaly aggree
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:04:00 -
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Create subforums on the sell oder section
-Sell orders :
-Ships -modules -gtc -bpo
Problem solved.
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
\o/
Thankyou Kaemonn, very good to know that issue is under consideration, the communication is much appreciated
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BobFromMarketing
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.09.28 20:58:00 -
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I second splitting the sell order forums into categories. That will make them much easier to sort though. Also buy orders would be nice split. Why we allow people to sell characters for ISK is beyond me im tired of sorting through 500 for one legit buy order.
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Blind Man
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:43:00 -
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they already said they were gonna make seperate forums
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.28 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
While I do apreciate a Mod response on this, it really does not please me. It sounds like this: "Okay we medics realize this guy is badly wounded, suffering and needs first aid. But look there is this doctor who might come this way in a week or a month and might or might not patch him up better than we can atm so we better let the guy suffer until the doc comes over instead of helping him now."
What could possibly be the harm in adding these additional forums NOW when they are needed, and removing them again if they are not needed anymore (which is pretty damn unlikely tbh)? --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
Just what i was gonna say before i decided to read the 2nd page Given the contracts system is intended to replace both ingame escraw & to a large extent the sell forums by combining both, introducing subsections to the sell forums would risk making this fundemental change to the EVE market system unnessesary & unused.
Itis annoying seeing so many threads appearing everyday. However, imo most of them are selling the same things at simular prices, & so alot of what gets pushed back is replaced by someone else selling the same thing. Annoying i admit for thesellers, but for the buyers its not such a great problem.
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:41:00 -
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It makes sense to put GTCs in their own forum, at the very least.
We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
Contracts will have no affect on the forum actually. Ppl are selling GTG and chars OUT OF THE GAME, not via contracts.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn We have been talking internally about this issue for quite sometime. We already know what forums to create, and the descriptions for them. Everyone decided to wait until the new contract system takes affect in order to see what that does to the traffic of the sell forums. If its increased, it will go back into discussion and CCP begging, if its decreased, chances are we wont touch it.
Just wanted to reasure you guys that us as mods are aware of the high traffic issue in the sell order forums too.
I was going to say something similar along the lines of Kaemon's statement.
We are *quite* aware of how many threads are there in Sell orders. Its a pain in the ass modding there and keeping track of threads. But nonetheless I am sure the higher ups in CRC will come to a decision soon.
NB:I said soon and not soonÖ ___
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Gewik O'Drakar
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.29 00:58:00 -
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Why not create a new web based system for buying and selling, allowing users to search for what they want, and removeing auctions and whatnot that are finished from the listing
Buy Sell Service |Services---Available Services |Buy Orders --- Unfilled Orders |Sell Orders --- Open for sale/auction
The problem would be with trash collection, aka getting rid of adds that are finished or no longer available.
I think it would be nice to have a system not connected to the forums for sales and services. -EVE Hardcore, aint gonna find nada better |
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