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Wwhisper
Gallente Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter TYC needs to stop smacking on the forums, cloaking in doril and bring a fleet to say they are not dead, until then they are nothing but gnats who whisper annoyingly in the ear of those bigger then them.
It seems the only one who is smacking right now it you. The above comment is nothing but smack. This thread is about why CC disbanded and the tactics that have been employed. This is not an In-Character discussion. Feel free to take your smacktalking somewhere else. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker I've taken my pills today, have you? |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:14:00 -
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/me runs and hides from the ebil cloakers
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Wwhisper
Gallente Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Simariliia wwhisper....I rarly dislike anyone, specially when its all a game......but all ure smacking and all ure whining is just stupid. all ure false bullsh**** on this treath makes me dislike u even more. No wonder why u get so paranoid in RL that u Imagen that someone accually would waste their money calling u.
Simariliia/Wildside (ASS)
I'm guessing it's time you take a break from the game. You seem a little frazzled right now. As for truth, why not ask your guys if they got on TS and started banning people.
As for being peronoid, you better belive it. If someone takes this game so seriously that they are resorting to making crank calls, what's next, showing up at my door with a gun? There are a lot of strange people in this world. So yes, I'm just a little peronoid. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker I've taken my pills today, have you? |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:16:00 -
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whooo im in a smack thread.
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Wwhisper
Gallente Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.30 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Phuze
Originally by: Wwhisper
Originally by: Phuze The hacking issues or whatever theyre talking about went on before -ASS- were in CC. Nice that you spoke up here and backed me up Tyrrax . See Wwhisper....even one of our naps is cautious...you can cease with the honor crap now, point proven -ASS- couldnt care less.  Phuze
Now, now Phuze. Don't go gettin in a tizzy. Have a donut or something. I don't think I'm the one that brought up the -ASS- have honor thing. I think I responed to one of you saying you did, I just pointed he didn't. Now that being said, your pirates, your not supposed to have honor in game if that's they way you want to play. It was our mistake for trusting you. However, when you take things out-of-the game, that's goes too far. Although ODGP is more guilty of it, the fact that your guys did it as well, says something also about your groups' style of of play that the people that play EVE should be made aware of. That takes the ebil pirating just a bit too far. When I get phone calls on my cell at 1:30 in the morning calling me names and hanging up, that's taking things too far. Honor? Respect? There is no such thing in BoI.
Let me tell you something Wwhisper, -ASS- never called you on your phone, your not worth a nickle, let alone the cost of a long distance phone call, wherever you might be. Its a game and if your a paranoid little twit we cant help that, but please get over yourself in thinking your worth our time of day, in or out of game, got it? And tbh ill pass on the donut, i prefer cookies On a side note, if you have proof of these calls i suggest you call the authorities, things like that shouldnt happen at all, also proof would be nice if your going to make such accusations in game, -ASS- call your "bluff" as usual, show me or Eve proof now hotshot, or your "honor" could be tainted. My post concerns -ASS- i couldnt care less about any other corp.
"Yarr n Stuff"
Phuze
Sorry, After reading my post I can see where it might look like I was saying your guys called me. It was just a run on. I know who it is that's calling me. As for proof, when I get my next bill which shows the number I'll be sending that proof to CCP.
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Simariliia
Die Gestrandeten
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Posted - 2006.09.30 04:17:00 -
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if u had been so good at pvping as whining....maybe u could have applyed to ASS one day:p too bad ure arent
Simariliia/Wildside (ASS) -------------------------------
Norwegian Bastard! (-ASS-)
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n sx
The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.30 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: n sx on 30/09/2006 04:39:14 Thanks for the announcement CC 
Just to clarify, IAC's NAP with 187 was merely due to fact a corp left us, and joined them. We wanted to maintain those personal friendships. As Tyrrax said, he was highly opposed to the decision but was over-ruled by a democracy. Half our alliance is waiting for 187 to shoot at us .
The whole incident regarding forum hacking was truly unimportant to IAC. Yeh it's a little embarassing having it happen, but there was no point us trying to follow up how it happened or who did it. Sadly inter-alliance spys and alts are a big part of this game, and some people struggle to do the honourable thing. As someone else has said, in the end it seems to have been more important to CC politics than it was to IAC.
I think back to the days when we were in the process of launching our outpost, and I still for the life of me cannot figure out why we started fighting with CC. I am pretty sure it fell inline with the whole 'pirate' aspect of some of your pilots, as you were shooting ISS at the time also. I would be interested for any CC pilot to remind me if I am horribly wrong.
Wwhisper, you (and one or two others) are a disgrace to your alliance and it's people like you whom ruin your entire team's reputation. You are an admirable fighter, however your illegible smacktalk and general spineless behaviour is what lost you any respect that you had earnt in combat.
Kristoffer, while you were another of the less popular CC pilots, you certainly provided me with endless entertainment. Seeing you damaging pilot's repuations with that BattleOsprey had me in tears of laughter. Other memorable occasions included you warping into combat in a bestower ... haha.
In your departure from the entity that was CC, I was wondering if you could do me a favour. Is the rumour, that ISS paid you 4Billion ISK to not finish the takeover of ISS Marginis II and form a NAP true? 
To the rest of CC, thanks for the hard lessons together IAC has matured significantly, and good luck your new appointments.
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.09.30 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: n sx
Half our alliance is waiting for 187 to shoot at us .
IAC and 187 have too many common goals and enemies atm. sry to disappoint that half of your alliance :p
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Wwhisper
Gallente Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.30 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: n sx
Wwhisper, you (and one or two others) are a disgrace to your alliance and it's people like you whom ruin your entire team's reputation. You are an admirable fighter, however your illegible smacktalk and general spineless behaviour is what lost you any respect that you had earnt in combat.
Sorry, but what you or the IAC think of me means nothing to me. The only people that matter to me is Tyrell. Anyone else is unimportant. ------------------------------- Tactical Smack-Talker I've taken my pills today, have you? |

Bach
Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.30 05:43:00 -
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Well before the thread is locked and its sure heading that way.
-ASS- to my knowledge, never did any out of game stuff. Luv or hate em, they only participated in the in-game stuff and this would include the coup attempt.
They were also one of the corps to honor the CC R.O.E. when there were others that didn't or seemed to have trouble doing so. Then again, they also participated in the coup to rid the strings of certain unpopular rules.....namely the R.O.E.
-ASS- is very difficult to describe. There is some form of a pirate code of honor there. It may be twisted, mutated and written in crayon, but something is there. The rest of us, and probably some -ASS- members have no clue what it really is. 
For the bazillionth time! ISS never paid CC any isk. But if it'll make you happy we'll take donations.
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Maria Ravenwind
Gallente Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.30 05:55:00 -
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Thanks for your replies Bach. On a personal note I'm happy to be a bit more clear on these subjects.
As for thinking that Tyrell has been defeated, I do not believe that many people feel that way. Most of us understand inter-Allaince politics and toll that they can take on gameplay. I understand that TYC was forced to adapt to a situation. This meant disolving an organization and joining a different one.
I'm personally glad, because TYC has some pilots that are a blast to fight. Now being in a more respectable alliance, I hope that they will be able to fight in a manner that is more tactically sound.
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Kristoffer
Amarr Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.30 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kristoffer on 30/09/2006 07:44:32 Ah yes, the reasons for fighting IAC in the first place? Heres the truth.
Well, it began with my corp, redstorm, being a member of CCC. CCC at the time was fighting a losing war against IAC, and had a lack of leadership and participation. We saw the writing on the wall early and decided to join the newly forming CC with our new friends TYC.
After moving into the doril area, we realized that we still liked the old JZV area as a hunting ground and figured one day it could turn into a good area to buildup our alliance in the future. So in our freetime while we weren't fighting our neighbors, CDC, or RA in Doril, we'd engage IAC ships in G-7 and MB-NKE. Any oldschool IAC would remember RDST in the area often.
Somewhere around now CC napped CDC / priory and we became the local powerful entity. We placed up the POS in MB-NKE and did everything possible to fight IAC at every opportunity as RA had retreated. There ya go.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.30 10:53:00 -
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Interesting stuff Kristoff Did you guys leave before my corp joined CCC ?
IAC were great targets back then 
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mudders
Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.09.30 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: mudders on 30/09/2006 11:41:18
Originally by: Wwhisper
Originally by: n sx
Wwhisper, you (and one or two others) are a disgrace to your alliance and it's people like you whom ruin your entire team's reputation. You are an admirable fighter, however your illegible smacktalk and general spineless behaviour is what lost you any respect that you had earnt in combat.
Sorry, but what you or the IAC think of me means nothing to me. The only people that matter to me is Tyrell. Anyone else is unimportant.
i'm sure the rest of VI, your alliance, will find that last statement very interesting 
GL rest of tyc
______________ [DLINE] Mudders
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Rawne Karrde
Bre-X Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.30 12:02:00 -
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Yeah those days were rough. IAC had been an empire industrial alliance mostly before then. We had flown with CVA and Huzzah in some ops in low sec. I remember one of the wars against The Short Bus Boys. Was funny when Bre-x, a mining and production corp, had 5 of the top 10 spots for kills at the time. Heck a 2 week old corp member of ours was top being that he was fearless and used a noob ship with a 2 strength scrambler to tackle. Got frustrating at times.
IAC had been running large amounts of logistics for pos productin in low sec and we had our sets on becoming a 0.0 alliance. We were green as a whole really, but Datamax, aka Yyrkoon was good at numbers and was able to give us our Marching orders. We started looking for a spot in 0.0 and we got an invite from celtic industries to come to the JZV constellation.
So plans were laid. Bre-x had prepared financially to make the jump to 0.0 as a few other corps. Genco had the resources already to get out there, and MINC was prepped too. In total that meant like a whole 20 active pilots from bre-x, 3 from Genco, and about 10 or so from MINC, out of an alliance of like 200-300 at the time well its the best we could do.
Logistics were prepped, offers were made to CCC about working together instead of fighting. We were turned down so the invation, which began with Celtic's Invitation began. Bre-x was the first corp to move their POS out there. Tigress from Genco used her dreadnaught to jump out the Bre-x pos and fuel. All CCC could do was watch while we moved in shouting at us in local. Soon after, MINC as well as Genco also setup their POS in RNF.
Things seemed to be going well all considering, a few bumps on the way. Yyrkoon had a new job and we lost our strong and highly involved leadership. A new fledgling alliance in 0.0 and coming from such an industrialist background we were in for some "fun." Tigress began handling the combat side of things, while the responisibility of day to day drama fell on me.
For 2 and a half months Bre-X, MINC and Genco were the ones mostly fighting against CCC. An enemy less organized and much less ready for combat than even ourselves. We should have mopped them up much quicker. However, the rest of the alliance literally scared of 0.0 and it took 2.5 months and the recruitment of some other corps to help ease the stress. I remember around this time is when Kirstoffer and his corp bailed and he convo'd me to offer up info on CCC alliance. He spilled everything from forum access to the mercs CCC was about to pony up and hire. We actually already had all that info thanx to spies in CCC already, but at the time we parted ways it seeemed we had an amicable relationship as we had no problems with them hanging out in JZV.
Finally we stopped messing around, alliance op was called to bust up the pos's in g-7 that CCC had. Our 80 ship fleet mostly of bs's hung on the gate and our dreads went in on the pos's. 3 went into re-inforced that night. CCC surrendered and we started getting on with things. As far as Tigress and I were concerned we thought we had turned a corner with having soo many pilots out in JZV, sadly most went back to empire for atleast another month and a half before we started having bodies in pods out there. Was sad when we would put together a gang to fight CC and other hostiles that started showing up and we were lucky if we scraped together a gang of 18, atleast a dozen of them being from my corp alone.
Shortly after this was pretty surprised when we saw redstorm corp setting up a pos in MB-nke under the CC flag. Having had contact with Kristoffer before we took his word about a ceasefire. Hindsight 20/20 shouldn't have trusted kristoffer farther than i could throw him. Oh well. Was a crazy time of bleeding and die'ing out there for something. Props to CC and all they did was a fun ride even when I took CC's bait and became the 2nd person to loose a carrier in eve.
As far as IAC goes, had some friends there, wish you luck.
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m0jo
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.30 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer R.O.E = Rules of Engagement
Which you'd think would generally be pretty easy to follow if it was simple enough...you'd be surprised however to see how many "overview malfunctions" occurred pretty regularly.
I am a big fan of "overiview malfunctions" 
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Ruff Ceyx
Amarr Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.09.30 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: n sx
Kristoffer, while you were another of the less popular CC pilots, you certainly provided me with endless entertainment. Seeing you damaging pilot's repuations with that BattleOsprey had me in tears of laughter. Other memorable occasions included you warping into combat in a bestower ... haha.
The osprey.. He called it the scourge of RNF i beleive. The bestower incident...well he is back on his medication now, and all is better. -------------------------------------------
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Kristoffer
Amarr Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.30 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rawne Karrde I remember around this time is when Kirstoffer and his corp bailed and he convo'd me to offer up info on CCC alliance. He spilled everything from forum access to the mercs CCC was about to pony up and hire.
Interestingly enough Rawne, I didn't have access to the CCC forums at that point. Nor did I have anything more than general knowledge that CCC was "going" to have mercs come and engage you. The same level of knowledge that every CCC pilot had. I was probably steaming because I had just had a nice fight with Effei Gloom in alliance chat about the future of the alliance.
You don't like me, thats plain to see. But don't try to slander me after the fact.
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tufs
Caldari Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.10.01 08:27:00 -
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mum, can I shoot people now ? TARGITZ ! 
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Rawne Karrde
Bre-X Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:16:00 -
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I still got the chat logs from when you gave me your ts/vent access pw's and your forum access passwords. Didn't try to use them as we already had that access anyways.. I wasn't slandering as it's true. I do remember you were quite mad, you were just bursting to tell me stuff.
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DeathSpawn66
Minmatar Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.10.02 04:51:00 -
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I would like to retract my earlier statement about being honorable. After my comments about my corp I was beaten, robbed, my house was broken into, my cell phone was blown up, my wife and children were burned alive and I lost 1 mil isk in my account. I apologize to ass corp. We have no honor. We will lie to you and kill you. Please...no more phuze.... -The Loveable Nub
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Doc Brown
Gallente Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.02 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: n sx
<SNIP> The whole incident regarding forum hacking was truly unimportant to IAC. Yeh it's a little embarassing having it happen, but there was no point us trying to follow up how it happened or who did it. Sadly inter-alliance spys and alts are a big part of this game, and some people struggle to do the honourable thing. As someone else has said, in the end it seems to have been more important to CC politics than it was to IAC. <SNIP>
To be blunt, hacking an out-of-game forum (or in game for that matter) is a criminal matter that can be settled by the police. Yea, I know the police rank this crime on the scale of jay-walking or failure to indicate when changing lanes (though I've gotten a ticket for the latter, but it also came with a speeding ticket of 110+ in a 50).
The point is TYC takes that thing called Honor very seriously.
Hacking boards not only is uncalled for, but to be honest pretty much worthless. All it does it show the desperation of the person(s) doing the hacking. In game spys are much, much more powerful a weapon. (though char's should have some sort of flag when the ownership has changed).
TYC has always tried to be very clear on our ROE and who our targe......er....enemies are. Some find sticking to the strickt ROE too 'tyranical' but, oh well, they can just fade away like so many other corps without any backbone and soul.
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