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Maria Ravenwind
Gallente Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Maria Ravenwind on 29/09/2006 04:54:49 This is intended as anything but flamebait. I am interested in the community's reaction to a major war.
For months upon months, the community has watched BoB take what they want. They have demonstrated that they excel incredibly at fleet warfare. Their FC's have shown they have what it takes to fight the best in the game and emerge victorious.
For those months, we have also endured the anti-BoB posts, and the "How can we destroy this monster called BoB" posts. Well it really seems like the community has gotten it's wish. Two of the largest Alliances are about to duke it out.
So what does this mean as far as politics? Both Alliances have very intricate webs of alliegences and hostilities. Is this the point EVE's history when it is truly the North vs the South? Who will side with whom? Is AXE declaring on BoB? Who will MC go after? What about FIX? LV? D2? Who is willing to fly a massive fleet 40+ jumps to the enemies home system?
But, most importantly, are these giant Allainces willing to gamble that they server will allow fleet battles involving Deathstar POS's, hundreds of ships, and (dare I utter it) dueling Titans with their compliments of support Capital fleets? Certainly the devs have done some excellent work increasing the stability, but this war threatens to push the server's software to places it's never imagined.
Thank you for contributing your constructive opinions and information.
Side Note: I say this all in complete and utter seperation from my employers. This is in no way representing my corporation or alliance's stance on the situation.
I hate my Exclamation mark! I Am No Alt. |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:29:00 -
[2]
i smell a drunkswarm :D
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Merrick Solipsus
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2006.09.29 05:33:00 -
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Quote: But, most importantly, are these giant Allainces willing to gamble that they server will allow fleet battles involving Deathstar POS's, hundreds of ships
It was proven tonight that the nodes still crash when fighting at a POS with only 120 or so people in the system. :/
So best of luck to both sides of the Node War.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward. -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

Duke Galadrien
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:55:00 -
[5]
That got a few chuckles out of me. :)
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
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Swor
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.29 06:59:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
God forbid the GMs and ISD ever go to war
err i mean BoB and MC
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:03:00 -
[7]
Nice political map :)
I don't think that anything will happen before stability issues are solved and POS warfare sees some kind of change. The risks are just too big at the moment due to OOG reasons. Mind control and tin hats |

eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:47:00 -
[8]
Seleene trying to make light of the fact that MC are fence sitting again i see.
If MC dont attack ASCN within the next month i will be very very supprised.
Where the shepard goes the sheep allways follow. _______________ Yar!Ö |

Temerlyn
Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:51:00 -
[9]
Mhe, what part of mercenaries dont you get.
Merc dont fight for the hell of it.
Its all about the Bling...
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 07:52:00 -
[10]
Originally by: eveceo1 Seleene trying to make light of the fact that MC are fence sitting again i see.
If MC dont attack ASCN within the next month i will be very very supprised.Where the shepard goes the sheep allways follow.
next month ?
how about this or the next weekend ?
i can already smell the "forum drama" 
...nerf wcs...
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:00:00 -
[11]
Hi, Aneu! 
Originally by: eveceo1 Seleene trying to make light of the fact that MC are fence sitting again i see.
Well, the situation IS kinda funny... at least to us who had no frakin' idea this was about to happen. 
Originally by: eveceo1 If MC dont attack SOMEONE within the next month i will be very very supprised.
Where the ISK goes the Wolves always follow.
Fixed that last part for you.  -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

Mirasta
Caldari Enigma Enterprises Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:03:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Mirasta on 29/09/2006 08:03:43
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
I expect i will be giggleing for hours at that and so will my bob main.
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Maria Ravenwind
Gallente Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:05:00 -
[13]
One more thing to put in: what type of war will this be?
Will either Alliance be attempting to destroy the other? I think it's possible that (given proper server stability) both these giants can mass a big enough force to not have a POS-ping-pong war, and actually do some proper damage.
I hate my Exclamation mark! I Am No Alt. |

Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 08:48:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Who is UCC and where is AXE?
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Wild Rho
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:07:00 -
[15]
tbh all I forsee are alot of posts complaining about jump queues, node deaths and lag.
It'd be nice to see 2 superpowers go at each other but I can't see the cluster being able to handle it.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:11:00 -
[16]
Hi!
Originally by: Seleene Hi, Aneu! 
Originally by: eveceo1 Seleene trying to make light of the fact that MC are fence sitting again i see.
Well, the situation IS kinda funny... at least to us who had no frakin' idea this was about to happen. 
Originally by: eveceo1 If MC dont attack SOMEONE within the next month i will be very very supprised.
Where the ISK goes the Wolves always follow.
Fixed that last part for you. 
I see what is happening then. BoB will attack ASCN, ASCN will get allies, MC attack said allies... interesting - Lets hope the south gets involved in keeping BoB from their doorsteps - Im sure LV wouldnt want that being one of the biggest powers closer to ASCN.
Yes Enslaver/Nebba/LV that was a hint that i hope you attack bob. _______________ Yar!Ö |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:11:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Who is UCC and where is AXE?
Blame any errors on Cabadrin.
Maybe AXE are all mains?!  -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:12:00 -
[18]
How am i doing Seleene? _______________ Yar!Ö |

Elle D
Caldari Ars Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:35:00 -
[19]
This is obviously the final boss in EvE. The Ultimate fight where New Eden goes kaput as servers fry and Iceland itself...dun dun dun...melts.
oh yes I hit that button: I win.
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Trooper B99
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:44:00 -
[20]
I'm just waiting to see if anything appears on our contract discussion board, from whom, why etc in regards to this wee . . . spat.
So many wonderful possibilities of who could want to hire us in regards to this thinking over all the permutations and intel available. Hell, we might not even get a shot. Time, will of course, tell. 
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:53:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Lord Draco on 29/09/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: eveceo1
Yes Enslaver/Nebba/LV that was a hint that i hope you attack bob.
I'm sure they appreciate the advice coming from you Aneu. Your track record speaks for itself.
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:58:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Lord Draco Edited by: Lord Draco on 29/09/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: eveceo1
Yes Enslaver/Nebba/LV that was a hint that i hope you attack bob.
I'm sure they appreciate the advice coming from you Aneu. Your track record speaks for itself.
Track records have nothing to do with what is being said at this time, the point of it all is that BoB is going to try and kill the richest alliance in the game and have thought of alot of backup plans.
I personally wouldnt mind ASCN loosing some space but i dont want BoB to win hence my comment. _______________ Yar!Ö |

Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20 If this war means that ASCN will fight with such ferocity and dedication that the BoB vanguard breaks upon them, we are unable to reinforce, and our home systems are besieged behind us making us unable to rebuild, then it will be a glorious fight.
BoB shall then be forced to evolve or die. If it succeeds in evolving, then ASCN will fall, if it does not, then BoB shall become a shadow of its former self.
Either way, it will be glorious.
BoB goes into this without knowing what to expect. Our opponents outnumber us by the thousands. It may well be the last march of the brotherhood. However, is there no better way to end than by fighting?
Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:06:00 -
[24]
Originally by: eveceo1
Originally by: Lord Draco Edited by: Lord Draco on 29/09/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: eveceo1
Yes Enslaver/Nebba/LV that was a hint that i hope you attack bob.
I'm sure they appreciate the advice coming from you Aneu. Your track record speaks for itself.
Track records have nothing to do with what is being said at this time, the point of it all is that BoB is going to try and kill the richest alliance in the game and have thought of alot of backup plans.
I personally wouldnt mind ASCN loosing some space but i dont want BoB to win hence my comment.
My point is you have 0 credibility, espicially with them, so why drop names?
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Death Priest
Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:09:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
LOL Gets the Popcorn and bets on MC to fly next to BOB
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:09:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20 If this war means that ASCN will fight with such ferocity and dedication that the BoB vanguard breaks upon them, we are unable to reinforce, and our home systems are besieged behind us making us unable to rebuild, then it will be a glorious fight.
BoB shall then be forced to evolve or die. If it succeeds in evolving, then ASCN will fall, if it does not, then BoB shall become a shadow of its former self.
Either way, it will be glorious.
BoB goes into this without knowing what to expect. Our opponents outnumber us by the thousands. It may well be the last march of the brotherhood. However, is there no better way to end than by fighting?
Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
Respect to you for your level-headed aproach to this. Its a great thing to know there are people like you in BoB.
Regards _______________ Yar!Ö |

Death Priest
Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:12:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20 If this war means that ASCN will fight with such ferocity and dedication that the BoB vanguard breaks upon them, we are unable to reinforce, and our home systems are besieged behind us making us unable to rebuild, then it will be a glorious fight.
BoB shall then be forced to evolve or die. If it succeeds in evolving, then ASCN will fall, if it does not, then BoB shall become a shadow of its former self.
Either way, it will be glorious.
BoB goes into this without knowing what to expect. Our opponents outnumber us by the thousands. It may well be the last march of the brotherhood. However, is there no better way to end than by fighting?
Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
Sounds like "The Battle of Rourkes Drift"
Good Luck to all involved!

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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:14:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Lord Draco
Originally by: eveceo1
Originally by: Lord Draco Edited by: Lord Draco on 29/09/2006 09:53:27
Originally by: eveceo1
Yes Enslaver/Nebba/LV that was a hint that i hope you attack bob.
I'm sure they appreciate the advice coming from you Aneu. Your track record speaks for itself.
Track records have nothing to do with what is being said at this time, the point of it all is that BoB is going to try and kill the richest alliance in the game and have thought of alot of backup plans.
I personally wouldnt mind ASCN loosing some space but i dont want BoB to win hence my comment.
My point is you have 0 credibility, espicially with them, so why drop names?
Why not drop names? Also my credibility is something i give to people, if i dislike you and your oppinion of me is irrelivent then why should i even contemplate giving you any reason to let me have credibility... think about that. _______________ Yar!Ö |

KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:24:00 -
[29]
KIA's inbox is alight......
We will be in this war, it just remains to see who's pockets we will be getting paid from.
Our forces are already mobilising. Decision will be made sometime this weekend.
KIA EVE Home
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:25:00 -
[30]
Originally by: KIAEddZ KIA's inbox is alight......
We will be in this war, it just remains to see who's pockets we will be getting paid from.
Our forces are already mobilising. Decision will be made sometime this weekend.
Good luck Fella's i hope you hurt BoB/MC bad.
Why has Seleene not replied i wonder?  _______________ Yar!Ö |

TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:36:00 -
[31]
Whats written here is the Truth as I SEE IT
Actually, I'm not speaking on behalf of BoB (Dread the thought)
But EvE Hasn't seen them in PROPER action for almost 1 year.
There has been raids, Blobs, region wars. All of these have just been mere skirmishes as far as the Brothers are concerned.
When they set something in motion, Everyone knows about it. And they focus on a goal. Most of the EvE community Aint seen nothing yet. I've Been on the recieving end of Some particualarly Nasty BoB campaigns One after the other. (Pheonix Alliance Followed by the Feeble Fountain alliance) And this ASCN Contingent Should be awesome for Eve News/Events (If it is Even ASCN !!!!) as far as I could see the goonswarm thing was just a mere skirmish.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:41:00 -
[32]
i bet my best 2 sheeps and a bottle of home brew whisky that MC will attack ASCN ...
aye.
d solo.
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:45:00 -
[33]
Edited by: mr passie on 29/09/2006 10:46:17 my 2 isk.
[tinfoil hat]
Bob are going for the new regions but are too lazey to haul their stuff, so they blow everything in their way until they lose enough so they can fill all they have left in a single freighter run.
This off course will be denied and their plan will fail miserably anyway as they will win every battle and fail to get their ships blown up.
Then they hop in their alts, (MC) to wardec bob. they will drain a significant piece of the ascn wallet in the process.
Bob and MC will both start to take heavy casualties. The incredible amounts of insurances paid out will bankrupt the entire npc community.
BOB starts selling isk on e-bay.
They then buy CCP and will have won eve.
[/tinfoil hat]
(it was the voices inn my head I'm sure of it) ----------------------------------------------- I'm a reversed paranoid schizophrenic. I have voices in my head I just think I don't hear them |

Thernir Merenthis
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:53:00 -
[34]
Hahah  
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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:54:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Seleene
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
hilarious 
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:58:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24
Right now, my main concern is keeping my people focused on our current job of assisting UK & ISS these last few days with making sure 9UY and the surrounding area is truly secure. The MC is not going to drop everything just because the galaxy is getting turned upside down. Our operational area is well known and small at the moment. If people are smart, they will leave us to that and not try to interfere.
However, much as Eddz has said, my inbox is alight as well. I've spent much of the last 24 hours smothered by convos, mails, and MSN spammage. I've been in contact with most of the principals on this matter and a great number of interested third parties as well. This war is bringing out the band-waggoners for sure, and the amount of ISK being waved about right now is pretty sobering.
Regardless, IÆm in no hurry to make a choice in this conflict. We will study our available options and eventually accept what we deem to be the best offer on the table.
-
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:08:00 -
[37]
mhmm
¼+¼ a history |

Berneh
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:20:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24
Right now, my main concern is keeping my people focused on our current job of assisting UK & ISS these last few days with making sure 9UY and the surrounding area is truly secure. The MC is not going to drop everything just because the galaxy is getting turned upside down. Our operational area is well known and small at the moment. If people are smart, they will leave us to that and not try to interfere.
However, much as Eddz has said, my inbox is alight as well. I've spent much of the last 24 hours smothered by convos, mails, and MSN spammage. I've been in contact with most of the principals on this matter and a great number of interested third parties as well. This war is bringing out the band-waggoners for sure, and the amount of ISK being waved about right now is pretty sobering.
Regardless, IÆm in no hurry to make a choice in this conflict. We will study our available options and eventually accept what we deem to be the best offer on the table.
How sobering ? Numbers Please ? 
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eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:27:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24
Right now, my main concern is keeping my people focused on our current job of assisting UK & ISS these last few days with making sure 9UY and the surrounding area is truly secure. The MC is not going to drop everything just because the galaxy is getting turned upside down. Our operational area is well known and small at the moment. If people are smart, they will leave us to that and not try to interfere.
However, much as Eddz has said, my inbox is alight as well. I've spent much of the last 24 hours smothered by convos, mails, and MSN spammage. I've been in contact with most of the principals on this matter and a great number of interested third parties as well. This war is bringing out the band-waggoners for sure, and the amount of ISK being waved about right now is pretty sobering.
Regardless, IÆm in no hurry to make a choice in this conflict. We will study our available options and eventually accept what we deem to be the best offer on the table.
In other words, your contract ends soon and you have moved your entire capital fleet into stain in preperation for the assault on ASCN under BoB's banner so basically you were going to give Cyvok his 24hrs notice but instead he removed your + standings.
Go Cyvok tbh! _______________ Yar!Ö |

Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:26:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
Likewise, ASCN members have their Ibis's of Death locked and loaded. We're all hoping to have some awesome battles and I would expect nothing less from eiter side to fight until they have nothing left. 
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ZE STALKER
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:39:00 -
[41]
oh yes Maria.. This is what we've been waiting for.
NOW is the time to destroy those arrogant boblets, that are a menace to society.
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 12:51:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 29/09/2006 12:53:11 I personally see both sides not hiring the MC for help offensively both are too proud, hey seleene do the MC do defence contracts or are you all out war?
a lot of third parties may see the war as an oppurtunity to strike at BoB home regions, and might enlist the help of the MC?
who knows, whatever happens, the first we'll hear about it is when seleene announces their new contract
as for every other alliance well its a massive warzone, you will see everyone there in some manor of speaking whether its to keep their pvpers happy or to just have a gander at what is going on up close
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 13:47:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24
Right now, my main concern is keeping my people focused on our current job of assisting UK & ISS these last few days with making sure 9UY and the surrounding area is truly secure. The MC is not going to drop everything just because the galaxy is getting turned upside down. Our operational area is well known and small at the moment. If people are smart, they will leave us to that and not try to interfere.
However, much as Eddz has said, my inbox is alight as well. I've spent much of the last 24 hours smothered by convos, mails, and MSN spammage. I've been in contact with most of the principals on this matter and a great number of interested third parties as well. This war is bringing out the band-waggoners for sure, and the amount of ISK being waved about right now is pretty sobering.
Regardless, IÆm in no hurry to make a choice in this conflict. We will study our available options and eventually accept what we deem to be the best offer on the table.
So tempted to offer 100 million iskies for you to attack these bandwagoners with a newbship fleet 
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:02:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Lord Draco
Originally by: eveceo1 Track records have nothing to do with what is being said at this time, the point of it all is that BoB is going to try and kill the richest alliance in the game and have thought of alot of backup plans.
I personally wouldnt mind ASCN loosing some space but i dont want BoB to win hence my comment.
My point is you have 0 credibility, espicially with them, so why drop names?
No respect for Aneu. Not after the dramas he caused.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:10:00 -
[45]
Let's hope that all other parties who may get involved have the guts to spread the hostilities between both parties. I may not be particularly in love with either alliance, but I think it would be very '***' if everyone just decided to go ganking in ascn space, yes they have more carebears, but does that mean you have a bigger schlong, or a smaller one... Signature removed - Too wide.Laurelin |

eveceo1
Gallente Revival.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:15:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Lord Draco
Originally by: eveceo1 Track records have nothing to do with what is being said at this time, the point of it all is that BoB is going to try and kill the richest alliance in the game and have thought of alot of backup plans.
I personally wouldnt mind ASCN loosing some space but i dont want BoB to win hence my comment.
My point is you have 0 credibility, espicially with them, so why drop names?
No respect for Aneu. Not after the dramas he caused.
Want me to get Aneu to cause more Drama for you? How about some logs or even a picture or two... hmmm?
Close your mouth or you will regret it.
Leverage is such a b*tch hey? _______________ Yar!Ö |

Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:22:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 29/09/2006 14:22:40 Im willing to bet on one thing regarding MCs involvement:
Whatever they do, they won't be getting paid for it.
EDIT: Spelling
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:23:00 -
[48]
Originally by: darth solo i bet my best 2 sheeps and a bottle of home brew whisky that MC will attack ASCN ...
aye.
d solo.
Actually, taking bets here....
Regards,
JP
"In JP We Trust, All Others Require Collateral..." |

KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:26:00 -
[49]
I work for JP Morgan, and your name made me chuckle.
KIA EVE Home
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Idaeus
Gallente Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:31:00 -
[50]
I won't be happy until every region is listed as contested.
This is a nice start though.
+IOI? |

JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:35:00 -
[51]
Edited by: JP Moregain on 29/09/2006 14:35:32
Originally by: KIAEddZ I work for JP Morgan, and your name made me chuckle.

Say Hi to Jamie D. for me. He is a hard ass, but he runs a tight ship...
JP
"In JP We Trust, All Others Require Collateral..." |

Kanae
Minmatar Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:38:00 -
[52]
You will really need to change how you fight a war with all the node deaths.
We have lost billions in lost time, effort, and ships to CCP. Everyone gets together attacks (not a ton of people only 120 in local) shields on POS goes down to 75% and node crashes. SMASH logs back killing people coming back and looting all the cans under the support of thier POS. GM's come back give SMASH all thier ships back and let them keep thier POS and all of the can loot.
Now you basically need to lock a system down for days just for the purpose of keeping the numbers down so you can fight(well you can always have your enemy outnumbered 10 to 1 and just keep on them but all of us dont have the numbers to just throw people at node deaths till the pos pop's)
Well on a good note when our node died yesterday it didn't kill the shields on half the pos's in the system and GM's force a 2 day no pos attack rule on us.
Well enough ranting but good luck in the south but keep node death in your battle plans it is going to happen
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Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:22:00 -
[53]
Originally by: darth solo i bet my best 2 sheeps and a bottle of home brew whisky that MC will attack ASCN ...
aye.
d solo.
you mean Linkage ? I'll go for wiskey
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:34:00 -
[54]
Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
I also thought it interesting that Cyvok has issued the command that if a corporation leaves ASCN during the current conflict it will be blacklisted. Boy, what a scary thought. 
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Julien Derida
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:35:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 29/09/2006 14:22:40 Im willing to bet on one thing regarding MCs involvement:
Whatever they do, they won't be getting paid for it.
EDIT: Spelling
Eh? ----------------------------------------
Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK |

Vegas
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:43:00 -
[56]
Is this what we've been waiting for?
Less instability on the eve server as masses of players from both sides participate in this war.
Sadly only CCP will benefit from this war as there bank balance gets bigger and playability gets smaller.
GL to both sides in the conflict, its just a shame the experience wont be to its fulliest as eve has been broken for a very long time. --------------------------------------------
Originally by: Mokelo Just browsing the killboards and wow someone just got owned.
Originally by: Ulynidd Yes you got owned for posting with an alt.
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Kharakan
Amarr GREY COUNCIL R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:43:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24 *words*
How sobering ? Numbers Please ? 
Nah, a scale would be better. Like, 'enough to sober you up a bit' on one and and 'enough to get (,say,) Parm back to stone-cold sobriety'.
Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy...
...and ijust reached it ahaha...
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer [limegreen]I a |

Trooper B99
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:47:00 -
[58]
I love the fact that i am personally to blame for the absolutely absurb rumour of MC capital ships flooding northern Stain, I find it hilarious knowing the truth. 
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:49:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Death Priest
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20 If this war means that ASCN will fight with such ferocity and dedication that the BoB vanguard breaks upon them, we are unable to reinforce, and our home systems are besieged behind us making us unable to rebuild, then it will be a glorious fight.
BoB shall then be forced to evolve or die. If it succeeds in evolving, then ASCN will fall, if it does not, then BoB shall become a shadow of its former self.
Either way, it will be glorious.
BoB goes into this without knowing what to expect. Our opponents outnumber us by the thousands. It may well be the last march of the brotherhood. However, is there no better way to end than by fighting?
Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
Sounds like "The Battle of Rourkes Drift"
Good Luck to all involved!

Precisely.....
Except replace the Zulus with Hobbits.......
*snip* This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
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Rennard
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Posted - 2006.09.29 15:50:00 -
[60]
It`s a great war for pirates. Now they will try to blob each other while we will kill their money makers in their own space freely.
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:09:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Rennard It`s a great war for pirates. Now they will try to blob each other while we will kill their money makers in their own space freely.
See the opportunity boys! this is our time!
Actually, the best way is to camp one of the pipes out of a major war zone and pick off stragglers as they go back home. We did that when ASCN/AXE brought 100+ people to HED to kill some POS or another. We killed tons of lone t2'd out BSes on their way home, and made a few hundred mil each. That was one of the best nights I had in EVE.
It's too bad we won't be nearer to the conflict  ________________________________
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:11:00 -
[62]
Maybe in a years time the South will be open again, and war wont fill the depths of space with lights and explosions.
And pigs might fly.
MC, I hope one of the sides does hire you, I'm sure it'd tip the battle in their favour quite dramatically, and that said, maybe hasten the dimise of one of the two largest and most successful Alliance in New Eden.
Interesting times. Combat has evolved, hasnt it?
Izo Azlion.
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:19:00 -
[63]
Edited by: killerco on 29/09/2006 16:19:12
Originally by: Izo Azlion
MC, I hope one of the sides does hire you, I'm sure it'd tip the battle in their favour quite dramatically,
If one off "the sides" hire the MC too join the battle it will be 1 hell off a price that has too be paid i guess
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Rau'ric Fitzrovia
Twisted Attitude
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:21:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 10:58:24
Right now, my main concern is keeping my people focused on our current job of assisting UK & ISS these last few days with making sure 9UY and the surrounding area is truly secure. The MC is not going to drop everything just because the galaxy is getting turned upside down. Our operational area is well known and small at the moment. If people are smart, they will leave us to that and not try to interfere.
However, much as Eddz has said, my inbox is alight as well. I've spent much of the last 24 hours smothered by convos, mails, and MSN spammage. I've been in contact with most of the principals on this matter and a great number of interested third parties as well. This war is bringing out the band-waggoners for sure, and the amount of ISK being waved about right now is pretty sobering.
Regardless, IÆm in no hurry to make a choice in this conflict. We will study our available options and eventually accept what we deem to be the best offer on the table.
A large percentage of the Eve community probably expect the MC to align themselves in some capacity with Bob, due to, well, tinfoil hattery in the main.
But in terms of sheer "omg wtf's gonna happen now??!" the same percentage of Eve community probably hopes the MC fight against Bob.
The latter could transform the forthcoming conflict from a possible "Bob attacks, ASCN defends (& lag wins)", into an anything goes right royal riot.
Regards, Rau
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Michuh
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:34:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Damn very little gets past Seleene here..
Its true, my alts Remedial.. and my mains Maggot.

Maelstrom Recruitment
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Heraios
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:38:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
A better question is, why wouldn't they? Why would an alliance ignore diplomatic possibilities for strengthening their hand on the eve of a major war? To show off? I'm sure they could also promise to only defend every third POS and make their pilots mouse left-handed, but I rather doubt they will.
There is a difference between entering a conflict with confidence, and artificially limiting your options for the sake of showing off your mighty man essence. The first is important. The second would be foolish.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:00:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 29/09/2006 18:02:34
Originally by: Heraios
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
A better question is, why wouldn't they? Why would an alliance ignore diplomatic possibilities for strengthening their hand on the eve of a major war? To show off? I'm sure they could also promise to only defend every third POS and make their pilots mouse left-handed, but I rather doubt they will.
There is a difference between entering a conflict with confidence, and artificially limiting your options for the sake of showing off your mighty man essence. The first is important. The second would be foolish.
ASCN is the largest alliance in the game. They should easily be able to field sufficient pilots to deal with pretty much any threat. Apparently their bark is much greater than their bite?
Some people stand on their merits. Others do not. It is very simple in the end.
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Idaeus
Gallente Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:01:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Helganstandt It's too bad we won't be nearer to the conflict 
Have guns. Will travel.
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:18:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
I fail to see how setting you from +2.5 to 0.0 is an attempt to recruit you?
UNLESS! You deal in negative reality, in which case that was from 0.0 to +2.5!
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NeoTech
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
I also thought it interesting that Cyvok has issued the command that if a corporation leaves ASCN during the current conflict it will be blacklisted. Boy, what a scary thought. 
1. ASCN never welcomed the conflict, but BoB has been sending gank squads into our space for a month now without us doing it... So its finally nice to get BoB blood on our swords!
2. How is that interesting? its now that everythings heating up, THIS is the "last stand", if a corp doesn't want to sacrifice ISK and ships for an alliance why should they even be in the alliance then? I dont see any problem.
Think, Write, Post. Please follow those instructions the next time u talk about something u know absolutely nothing about... Thanks.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:49:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 29/09/2006 19:53:30
Originally by: Reddari
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
I fail to see how setting you from +2.5 to 0.0 is an attempt to recruit you?
UNLESS! You deal in negative reality, in which case that was from 0.0 to +2.5!
Has nothing to do with me, my corp or FIX. Read my first post. You are trying to recruit BOB renters and anyone else to help you fight. Seems you need a coalition to handle an alliance which has way less members than you?
Can you smell the fear?
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:53:00 -
[72]
Originally by: NeoTech
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Here is a simple question, as I see it:
If ASCN is not concerned about this conflict (in fact, they post in the other threads that they welcome this), then why are they attempting to recruit every corporation they can to come help them fight, including BOB renters? 
I also thought it interesting that Cyvok has issued the command that if a corporation leaves ASCN during the current conflict it will be blacklisted. Boy, what a scary thought. 
1. ASCN never welcomed the conflict, but BoB has been sending gank squads into our space for a month now without us doing it... So its finally nice to get BoB blood on our swords!
2. How is that interesting? its now that everythings heating up, THIS is the "last stand", if a corp doesn't want to sacrifice ISK and ships for an alliance why should they even be in the alliance then? I dont see any problem.
Think, Write, Post. Please follow those instructions the next time u talk about something u know absolutely nothing about... Thanks.
I am truely amazed at actually how little you know or can comprehend. I stated that the threat of blacklisting was pretty much a joke. If I were in a corp that was in ASCN and ran from the conflict and left ASCN, I would expect to be "blacklisted." How is that supposed to scare me into staying in ASCN and fighting for it? Sometimes I am amazed with folks who think that these kinds of threats are meaningful.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:01:00 -
[73]
Quote:
If I were in a corp that was in ASCN and ran from the conflict and left ASCN, I would expect to be "blacklisted."
1- What was written was not written for you. Internal blog and all that.
2- Sometimes the obvious is stated. Why quibble over it? ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |

TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:02:00 -
[74]
Your bashing ASCN because in an internal forum CYVOK said soemthing which you feel is too obvious. If you cant come up with a good argument to make ppl hate ASCN, just stop trying. I think you are making FIX's position in this war clear.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:09:00 -
[75]
Originally by: TheTruth1 Your bashing ASCN because in an internal forum CYVOK said soemthing which you feel is too obvious. If you cant come up with a good argument to make ppl hate ASCN, just stop trying. I think you are making FIX's position in this war clear.
I have no idea what FIX's position is tbh. You will have to ask Valhallen or Avernus that.
Honestly, if you folks cannot handle simple, factual observations, there is little wonder, at least in my mind, why you blindly follow the goose that laid the golden egg.
Oh, and you are prohibited from posting in this forum, correct?
Go away now, troll.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:12:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Daald
Quote:
If I were in a corp that was in ASCN and ran from the conflict and left ASCN, I would expect to be "blacklisted."
1- What was written was not written for you. Internal blog and all that.
2- Sometimes the obvious is stated. Why quibble over it?
What was written was an attempt to scare ASCN membership into not cutting and running from conflict. There are certainly better ways of accomplishing that instead of threatening a "blacklisting" that has little meaning and less relevance, like, for instance, teaching them how to pvp and supporting them in the effort.
The way people interact in this game is very important when it comes down to the "nut cutting" so-to-speak. Threatening accomplishes little. Supporting accomplishes quite a lot.
If ASCN leadership is worried about folks cutting and running, then that says something about the corporations ASCN recruits into it's fold, does it not? It also says something about how the leadership treats the membership, does it not?
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:15:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Helganstandt
Originally by: Rennard It`s a great war for pirates. Now they will try to blob each other while we will kill their money makers in their own space freely.
See the opportunity boys! this is our time!
Actually, the best way is to camp one of the pipes out of a major war zone and pick off stragglers as they go back home. We did that when ASCN/AXE brought 100+ people to HED to kill some POS or another. We killed tons of lone t2'd out BSes on their way home, and made a few hundred mil each. That was one of the best nights I had in EVE.
It's too bad we won't be nearer to the conflict 
the two small towers my corp placed were SO worth it. hahah. they caused the 180 hobbits to stop mining and start blobbing. nice to hear it made your evening too 
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:16:00 -
[78]
Quote:
What was written was an attempt to scare ASCN membership into not cutting and running from conflict. There are certainly better ways of accomplishing that instead of threatening a "blacklisting" that has little meaning and less relevance, like, for instance, teaching them how to pvp and supporting them in the effort.
The way people interact in this game is very important when it comes down to the "nut cutting" so-to-speak. Threatening accomplishes little. Supporting accomplishes quite a lot.
If ASCN leadership is worried about folks cutting and running, then that says something about the corporations ASCN recruits into it's fold, does it not? It also says something about how the leadership treats the membership, does it not?
Did you not just say before that it was understood that blacklisting a corp that runs/doesn't fight when the times are tough is something that WILL happen in every alliance?
If that is so then you are simply reading too much into it. It's just a simple fact that was simply said out loud just in case there was confusion in the matter. That's all.
Again...why are we wasting bandwidth on this trivial matter? ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |

TheTruth1
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:19:00 -
[79]
"factual Observations".. lol, You think that your opinion is a fact. Your opinion means nothing. You arent in the conflict, you arent an alliance leader, and your alliance hasnt exactly been that sucessful either. When you run an alliance that is 1/10th as sucessful as ASCN, then you can comment on whether what CYVOK does to motivate ppl is the best path. Im sure that none of FIXs members left when you got owned by BOB.
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:22:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Daald
Quote:
What was written was an attempt to scare ASCN membership into not cutting and running from conflict. There are certainly better ways of accomplishing that instead of threatening a "blacklisting" that has little meaning and less relevance, like, for instance, teaching them how to pvp and supporting them in the effort.
The way people interact in this game is very important when it comes down to the "nut cutting" so-to-speak. Threatening accomplishes little. Supporting accomplishes quite a lot.
If ASCN leadership is worried about folks cutting and running, then that says something about the corporations ASCN recruits into it's fold, does it not? It also says something about how the leadership treats the membership, does it not?
Did you not just say before that it was understood that blacklisting a corp that runs/doesn't fight when the times are tough is something that WILL happen in every alliance?
If that is so then you are simply reading too much into it. It's just a simple fact that was simply said out loud just in case there was confusion in the matter. That's all.
Again...why are we wasting bandwidth on this trivial matter?
Could I not ask the same question as to why you or your alliance would bother to waste the bandwith on your internal forums for the same reason?
WTS Clue
Have Fun All.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:22:00 -
[81]
the above poster needs to be deleted from these forums.. where are the mods when you need them...
alts are not welcome here anymore.
As for Yodaron.. you have no idea.... Yodaron has been a leader in this game since it started.
You will not find a man who is held in more esteem by his peers in the whole game.
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:25:00 -
[82]
Thetruth1 is a nutless alt, and as such does not represent ASCN.
Please ban him, this is not the first thread he has trolled.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:26:00 -
[83]
Quote:
Could I not ask the same question as to why you or your alliance would bother to waste the bandwith on your internal forums for the same reason?
Of course you can. So please post in that thread in our internal forums chastising CYVOK for wasting bandwidth. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |

Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:30:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Daald
Quote:
Could I not ask the same question as to why you or your alliance would bother to waste the bandwith on your internal forums for the same reason?
Of course you can. So please post in that thread in our internal forums chastising CYVOK for wasting bandwidth.
Why would I chastize him there? He has all of Eve staring him straight in the eye, and so far all he has done is blinked.
Oh, and just so you know. We do not post crappy threats like that on our forums. Of course, we do not expect folks to cut and run when the heat gets cranked up either. The CODA wars should have told everyone in Eve that.
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Daald
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:33:00 -
[85]
Quote:
Why would I chastize him there? He has all of Eve staring him straight in the eye, and so far all he has done is blinked.
Oh, and just so you know. We do not post crappy threats like that on our forums. Of course, we do not expect folks to cut and run when the heat gets cranked up either. The CODA wars should have told everyone in Eve that.
Thank you Yoda. That's all I wanted from you.
PS. How FIX handles their internal business is no business of mine. ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy |

Heldane
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:38:00 -
[86]
Hiring mercenaries to disrupt BoB supply lines and draw defenders away from the battle lines is simply good tactics if you have deep enough pockets to fund such a venture. I'm sure ASCN is taking this war very seriously and if they intend to come out victorious they must use every advantage they have, the primary one being a huge industrial base to draw the ISK necessary to tip the scales in their favor.
To risk losing a war of this magnitude over the maintenance of an inflated ego would be sheer folly on their part.
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Dradara
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Posted - 2006.09.29 20:57:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Dradara on 29/09/2006 20:58:00
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:00:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
I also thought it interesting that Cyvok has issued the command that if a corporation leaves ASCN during the current conflict it will be blacklisted. Boy, what a scary thought. 
That's the way it should be. Freeloaders be damned.
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:03:00 -
[89]
You know, as much as this would be a really cool war to watch if everything ran smoothly, I think both sides of the conflict know that it's not a possibility to actuall kill one alliance or the other.
With the size of the conflicts to come, the amount of node deaths will be staggering, and even with the ultimate camping endurance of BoB, I imagine they will tire of it eventually as well. I think despite what everyone would like to see happen, we all have to admit that a phsyical destruction of an alliance as deeply inbedded as BoB or ASCN/AXE is just flat out impossible with the current game mechanics. I'm guessing that on some level, both sides of the conflict know this, and are just doing this to see how far they can get with current game-mechanics (and I don't blame them either. I actually would encourage it. These things need to be tested to give CCP an idea of what to expect from the player base in the future so they can better prepare for it)
I really only see one of these alliances dying by internal reasons. Like a backstab so amazingly huge, Julius Caeser would actually rise from the dead just to say "wow, now THAT'S screwed up." Now, there's no telling whether something like that would happen, but it's really the only possibility I can think of. The way you beat the big alliances in this game is through politics. Until game mechanics allow for the massive erection inducing battles of 400+ people with cap ships, hundreds of fighters and drones, and all at a large POS with reasonable lag, I don't see this conflict going anywhere except the following:
-BoB claiming victory by having a good kill ratio -BoB claiming defeat/stalemate with a bit of humility saying game mechanics did not allow them to accomplish their objectives.
And all the while, CYVOK will be too busy looking into his eve-mirror telling himself that us mere peons just don't fully understand his "greatness."
So yeah, in the end, no one will be victorious in my opinion.
I do however VERY MUCH look forward to the forum wars. I seriously look forward to fraps updates, and screenshot war stories of how one side is WTFPWNING the other side. That stuff is better than my day-time soaps. So in a sense, yeah, this is what I've been waiting for. ________________________________
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Xlander
Reaver Inc United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:06:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Who is UCC and where is AXE?
UCC is United Confederation of Corporations, we are part of the Coalition and if you check ASCN standings you will see we are blue to you 
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Reddari
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:22:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Xlander UCC is United Confederation of Corporations, we are part of the Coalition and if you check ASCN standings you will see we are blue to you 
I have blue disabled on overview so I'd never see you anyways 
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MarketMouse
The Genesis Project
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:29:00 -
[92]
This war is a lose-lose situation. BoB has been raiding ASCN space every night for the last two months and there is enough lag already just with 20v20. The only winners in this fight will be frustration, lag, jump queues and server reboots.
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War Bear
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:48:00 -
[93]
I know who is truely quaking in their boots right now. The server admins who are on call during the late shifts.
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Unfamed II
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:49:00 -
[94]
Is this the first episode of the speculation wars? Truth is, nodes can't handle the load BoB and ASCN are going to put on them. And it's ruining the game for everyone involved.
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Gunship
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:55:00 -
[95]
CCP will kill us all with lag.....
Next...
So you want to join us? |

etheris
Gallente eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:59:00 -
[96]
The multiple crashes today definately put a damper on things.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.30 00:14:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Helganstandt I do however VERY MUCH look forward to the forum wars. I seriously look forward to fraps updates, and screenshot war stories of how one side is WTFPWNING the other side. That stuff is better than my day-time soaps. So in a sense, yeah, this is what I've been waiting for.
/me wants smack-less lag-less wars, and little to none forum wars.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.30 02:47:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 29/09/2006 10:05:20 If this war means that ASCN will fight with such ferocity and dedication that the BoB vanguard breaks upon them, we are unable to reinforce, and our home systems are besieged behind us making us unable to rebuild, then it will be a glorious fight.
BoB shall then be forced to evolve or die. If it succeeds in evolving, then ASCN will fall, if it does not, then BoB shall become a shadow of its former self.
Either way, it will be glorious.
BoB goes into this without knowing what to expect. Our opponents outnumber us by the thousands. It may well be the last march of the brotherhood. However, is there no better way to end than by fighting?
Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
yarr!

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The Speaker
The Clue Factory
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Posted - 2006.09.30 07:00:00 -
[99]
Personally, what I've been waiting for is Fantasy Eve Warfare League or some such abomination of fantasy sports leagues.
Draft your fantasy team and go up against your rivals in weekly head-to-head matchups! Will your star battleship pilot get benched by his CEO for being caught mining Veld in Jita? Is your key dictor pilot out this week because he "pulled a groin muscle" in a private TS channel with that ambiguously-voiced "female" character in his corp? What impact will the trade of your command ship gang***** pilot to a roleplaying alliance be? Do you draft names or do you draft stats? Do your pilots fly drunk all of the time and is this going to be a problem?
Yeah. Pretty dumb. It could be fun though. |

KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.30 07:31:00 -
[100]
Originally by: The Speaker Personally, what I've been waiting for is Fantasy Eve Warfare League or some such abomination of fantasy sports leagues.
Draft your fantasy team and go up against your rivals in weekly head-to-head matchups! Will your star battleship pilot get benched by his CEO for being caught mining Veld in Jita? Is your key dictor pilot out this week because he "pulled a groin muscle" in a private TS channel with that ambiguously-voiced "female" character in his corp? What impact will the trade of your command ship gang***** pilot to a roleplaying alliance be? Do you draft names or do you draft stats? Do your pilots fly drunk all of the time and is this going to be a problem?
Yeah. Pretty dumb. It could be fun though.
Ya know, that could actually be kinda fun and cool if you did it right. Maybe we get Omber Zombie or someone like that to organize a ASCN vs BoB Fantasy League. You get to draft 10 Combat pilots from each side or something. Each confirmed kill they get is worth a point or something. Trying to think of some other basic rules, like maybe only 2 pilots per corp, max.. Or Assign like 50 people per side a value.. such as to draft someone baddass like 'TWD' would cost you 15 Million Isk, to draft a low newbie, like.. KSUDruid would only cost 1 Million Isk. Give everyone a 50 million isk salary cap or something.
Dunno, but there's some fun you could have with it if you set it up right :)
-Druid
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Taizu Lilith
Minmatar Counterglow Kancho Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.09.30 07:39:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Thanks. Should be stickied I think.
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Kadarin
Wolfenrecon Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.09.30 07:54:00 -
[102]
I'd like to see a third party hire the MC to attack both BoB and ASCN... 
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.30 08:08:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 29/09/2006 06:52:27
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind Who will side with whom?
The MC is looking very carefully at the CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION in order to determine our path forward.
Ahh, finally proof that FIX has only main's in it.
/looks at chart again...
Oh crap! We're screwed!
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Wierd Beard
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.09.30 11:24:00 -
[104]
Again? Dang it.
/drops drawers to take ANOTHER one for the team 
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Saerid
Amarr FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.30 19:05:00 -
[105]
Originally by: KSUDruid
Ya know, that could actually be kinda fun and cool if you did it right. Maybe we get Omber Zombie or someone like that to organize a ASCN vs BoB Fantasy League. You get to draft 10 Combat pilots from each side or something. Each confirmed kill they get is worth a point or something. Trying to think of some other basic rules, like maybe only 2 pilots per corp, max.. Or Assign like 50 people per side a value.. such as to draft someone baddass like 'TWD' would cost you 15 Million Isk, to draft a low newbie, like.. KSUDruid would only cost 1 Million Isk. Give everyone a 50 million isk salary cap or something.
Dunno, but there's some fun you could have with it if you set it up right :)
Heh, yeah. I'd definitely give it serious thought. "And draft for the winter warfare season starts on 15th October..".
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Skrypt
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:29:00 -
[106]
Wow. I actually got a little excited as I read the first post. Then I realized that such epic encounters are impossible at the moment. Talk about a dream crusher... Sorry, Ladies and Gents. You're just going to see yet another bitter and entrenched war until server capabilities increase 10x. ___________
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.02 10:30:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Im willing to bet on one thing regarding MCs involvement:
Whatever they do, they won't be getting paid for it.
We'd take that bet, but the terms for victory would be that you pay the same amount as the contract fee upon completion (including ship/component deals).
You're an old, old character, Elve, and may even have the ability to pay up should there even be a contract but... would you want to?

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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.02 10:45:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Latex Mistress
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Im willing to bet on one thing regarding MCs involvement:
Whatever they do, they won't be getting paid for it.
We'd take that bet, but the terms for victory would be that you pay the same amount as the contract fee upon completion (including ship/component deals).
/signed.
I like this bet. Feel like backing it up, Elve?  -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

ArchenTheGreat
Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 11:19:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Rebellion Oh, by the way, before anyone gets any illusions. BoB are ready, willing and able to continue fighting even if all that is left to us are frigates :]
Umm.. you mean Polaris Frigates?
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Max Teranous
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.02 12:38:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Latex Mistress
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Im willing to bet on one thing regarding MCs involvement:
Whatever they do, they won't be getting paid for it.
We'd take that bet, but the terms for victory would be that you pay the same amount as the contract fee upon completion (including ship/component deals).
You're an old, old character, Elve, and may even have the ability to pay up should there even be a contract but... would you want to?

Elve couldn't afford it - he goes through ships too fast  
Max 
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