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spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 06:48:00 - [1] "Operation Alt Smackdown" on the Corp & Alliances forum has been a success. The number of alt troll posts there has decreased dramatically and it makes it a better place. Sure there are still idiots who try it but they get modded out PDQ. I'd like to see this happen on ALL of the EVE forums except for the "Inside EVE" and "EVE Information Centre" sections that contain the New Citizens, Ships & Modules, Missions etc forums. Alt troll posts, particularly on this forum, General Discussion contribute precisely nothing to any discussion. Hiding behind the EVE anonymity of pointless alts people smacktalk, abuse, spout drivel and generally allow the contents of their brains to spill out onto the forums like toxic waste from a broken factory. All characters in NPC or starter corps should be unable to post. The only argument against this I can see is that it would prevent new players from asking questions. There are 2 counters to this: 1) Leave the forum sections I described above open to all. And possibly Out Of Pod Experience too. 2) CCP have repeatedly said that they want to encourage new players to join player corporations as soon as possible. In a recent interview Magnus Bergsson (CCP CEO) said: Originally by: Magnus Bergsson It's often very difficult, when you just get in, to realize what the game is about. You just don't really see it in the beginning. This is why it is so critical for new players to join a corporation right away. The other players will actually help them. This idea would give yet another incentive for genuine players to make that move. I'm interested to know what other people think of this... and I await the stream of useless alt posts with absolutely no interest at all
Vladimir Ilych Hidden Industrial Group	Posted - 2006.10.01 06:56:00 - [2] i'll sign this with one suggestion. Chars in NPC corps still need to post in new citizens forum.
newsreader	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:23:00 - [3] Alt smackdown hasn't worked from what i've seen there is still as much smack and crap posted as ever
Lemming Merangue	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:25:00 - [4] I understand the removal of us alts from corp and aliance forums but I see no reason to remove them from discussions where corp has no relevance. Obviously npc corp characters that try to start "OMG Alliance X is using GM HAX!!!!111one" threads and the like elsewhere deserve to be modded severely but other than that i see no problem with alts / npc corp characters.
Kadarin Wolfenrecon Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:31:00 - [5] No. Alts can have a legitimate purpose of asking questions when they do not want their main character to be known (i.e. to potentially give away intel). Also, I thought the Corp & Alliances forum was much more interesting when alts could post.
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:32:00 - [6] Edited by: Azerrad InExile on 01/10/2006 08:32:40 Originally by: spurious signal Alt troll posts, particularly on this forum, General Discussion contribute precisely nothing to any discussion. I'd say thats true by definition. Likewise one could argue that Non-alt troll posts add nothing to any discussion and therefore non-alts should be banned from posting. However, arguments such as that falsy assume that all alts (in your case)/non-alts (in my case) only post troll posts. Troll posts add nothing to the discussion, so wouldn't it make more sense to ban troll posters? Originally by: spurious signal All characters in NPC or starter corps should be unable to post. ... I'm interested to know what other people think of this... and I await the stream of useless alt posts with absolutely no interest at all I think it would be a good ISK sink since everyone would create a 1 person corp for their forum posting alt to sit in removing lots of isk from corp creation fees from the game :) In other words, it wouldn't work.
Lizzette Minmatar The Renegade Order	Posted - 2006.10.01 08:34:00 - [7] I think it's a great idea, that way people will stop accusing me of being an Alt..... What goes here?
Taj Rhais	Posted - 2006.10.01 09:45:00 - [8] Edited by: Taj Rhais on 01/10/2006 09:45:29 What exactly is this "Alt" you speak of ? I invite you to join "Forum Posting Inc". We mine veldspar in frigates in 1.00 and post on forums. There are plenty of people who are in NPC corps after 5-6 moths into the game, and it's because they either are soloers and couldn't care less about other people trying to make isk off their back or don't want to be attackable in empire space. Get your elitist head out of where you shove it. Noone who really wanted to post on the forums anonimously to be safe from stalking and/or ad hominem attacks would be the least inconenienced by this.
Umana Batori Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.01 10:01:00 - [9] Oh right lets gimp the new players and others who does not feel like going in a straight line with everyone else to oblivion. I find it a less than good experience being slammed in the face continuosuly by odd restrictions made for the good of a chosen few (or many)
Professional Troll	Posted - 2006.10.01 10:46:00 - [10] I say you're as wrong as could be. Now where's Alt Troll? He deserves to have a say in this. No, I'm not an alt of Alt Troll. Look at me! Look at me! \|A\|T\|T\|E\|N\|T\|I\|O\|N\|-\|W\|H\|O\|R\|I\|N\|G\| My Anti-drug.
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2006.10.01 10:49:00 - [11] The OP demonstrates that you don't have to be an alt to be a troll.
robacz Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.01 10:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Gloria Stitz The OP demonstrates that you don't have to be an alt to be a troll. Nah but seriously, I am not an alt, I dont troll, but your new rules would still stop me from posting? I dont think I like it. It would maybe help a bit, but it would also stop a lot of non-troll players from posting. Besides, if they really wanted to remove alts from forums, they would just remove this ability from alt characters via forum software. No need to base this on your corp or anything else irrelevant. ___________ Buying/Selling: Implants, Cargo Expanders and more
phillip duncan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:57:00 - [13] Banning all players who's toon is in a NPC corp from posting on the forums is not a good idea. That about the people who either do not want to be in a Player corp (either they have not found the right one) or like me were the corp leadere decided to desolve the corp. If it was standings based so that they toon has had to do some mission or something mybe better but not ideal.
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Gloria Stitz The OP demonstrates that you don't have to be an alt to be a troll. lol, not bad My point with this idea, which I was opening to hear some discussion of (not much of which has actually happened surprise surprise) is that the quality of, you know, discussion on these forums has fallen to an all-time low over recent months. MMORPG forums are always hostile environments but I think the EVE ones are particularly bad nowadays. The proportion of constructive, intelligent, considered, non-confrontational, helpful or even literate (and I'm not talking about people for whom English isn't a first language here) is very low. I'd just like to see the forums become more useful and something that would be an asset to the game, not an embarrassment.
Victoria Zongo Derelik Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:06:00 - [15] Originally by: phillip duncan That about the people who either do not want to be in a Player corp (either they have not found the right one) or like me were the corp leadere decided to desolve the corp. Make a single person corp. Problem solved.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:18:00 - [16] Originally by: spurious signal My point with this idea, which I was opening to hear some discussion of (not much of which has actually happened surprise surprise) is that the quality of, you know, discussion on these forums has fallen to an all-time low over recent months. I think its because people cant respect someone disagreeing with them, and thinks they are idiots if they do. Its a maturity thing. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:27:00 - [17] gotta love the alt trolling in this thread Ore Mongers is recruiting
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:31:00 - [18] Originally by: spurious signal The proportion of constructive, intelligent, considered, non-confrontational, helpful or even literate (and I'm not talking about people for whom English isn't a first language here) is very low. Originally by: spurious signal The best thing about this fix is all of the pathetic losers coming on the forums and basically admitting they suck Proof that it's not just alts that write posts that make them look like knobends?
Womble God Gallente Compression Space Transport	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:44:00 - [19] Im not in favor of banning what you call "Alts" from 90% of the forums. Especially when you consider the number of newer players, who on the face of it are indistinguishable from your "Alts" and, who increasingly dont want to join player corps preferring the relative safety of an NPC corp. I would think it maybe not a simple task, but an achieveable one, for CCP to only allow main characters to post. That is that the character with the most play time on an account (maybe based on skillpoints) which would be the only one allowed to post on the forums. This would still allow those players in NPC corps to post on the forums whilst stopping players from making throwaway characters on their account simply to go trolling with. This of Course wouldnt eliminate smacking altogether (sadly) but it would mean that those too spineless to post with their mains would be dettered and those who still smack with their mains....well.... Not a perfect solution but another one for people to mull over. Oh, and this is my main. Im gonna go put my "your an idiot/flame/get-lost-noob suit on"
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: spurious signal The best thing about this fix is all of the pathetic losers coming on the forums and basically admitting they suck Proof that it's not just alts that write posts that make them look like knobends? Yeah, people disagreeing with the things I say I have no problem with. At least I have the balls to actually use my main to say the things I say. If I say something wrong, or I am won over by discussion, I'm man enough to admit it. I also prefer to try keeping to the discussion at hand rather than referring to other posts that are entirely unrelated. There's a term for attempting to undermine someone's point by trying to discredit the person rather than the actual argument, but I've forgotten what it is.
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Womble God Im not in favor of banning what you call "Alts" from 90% of the forums. Especially when you consider the number of newer players, who on the face of it are indistinguishable from your "Alts" and, who increasingly dont want to join player corps preferring the relative safety of an NPC corp. I would think it maybe not a simple task, but an achieveable one, for CCP to only allow main characters to post. That is that the character with the most play time on an account (maybe based on skillpoints) which would be the only one allowed to post on the forums. This would still allow those players in NPC corps to post on the forums whilst stopping players from making throwaway characters on their account simply to go trolling with. This of Course wouldnt eliminate smacking altogether (sadly) but it would mean that those too spineless to post with their mains would be dettered and those who still smack with their mains....well.... Not a perfect solution but another one for people to mull over. Oh, and this is my main. Im gonna go put my "your an idiot/flame/get-lost-noob suit on" Yeah good thoughts, and I do agree that denying new players a voice would be a very bad thing. And of course, even if there was a "mains only" rule then it wouldn't stop the determined ones from making a string of trial accounts just for posting smack. Hmm, here's another thought, how about just an "ignore poster" button. That way we could all block whatever trolls we personally wanted to
Womble God Gallente Compression Space Transport	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:02:00 - [22] Would the button be big and flashing red? under a glass cover?
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Womble God Would the button be big and flashing red? under a glass cover? lol OK, could we have 2 buttons then? An "ignore poster" button and a "recycle biomass" one
Demonica II	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:09:00 - [24] Yep, brilliant idea, ban all players from the offical forums unless they are part of a corp, really, that is just a smart idea /sarcasm.
Anarel	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:32:00 - [25] giggles because he's posting from a trial alt If you really do want to get rid of alts without flaring off independants, here's your solution: One can only post on the forums as a charactar that has been training for 4 of the last 7 days.
Mariko San Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:37:00 - [26] The problem is that if I post anything anywhere with my main then people form their decision a lot of the time not what I have written but on the tag under my name. If I made a post like "I think POS spam ruins this game" all I would get it posts about how my corp/alliance is the worst for that or getting pwned by RA doing it or some such drivel that has nothing to do with the post.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:38:00 - [27] Originally by: phillip duncan Banning all players who's toon is in a NPC corp from posting on the forums is not a good idea. That about the people who either do not want to be in a Player corp (either they have not found the right one) or like me were the corp leadere decided to desolve the corp. If it was standings based so that they toon has had to do some mission or something mybe better but not ideal. You're not Bugs Bunny, this isn't some disney MMO, don't call yourself a toon. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Womble God Gallente Compression Space Transport	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:45:00 - [28] Mariko, I understand your point of view and I can see how that would annoy you. No-one wants to be flamed because of who they are, especially when they are just trying to put a point across. This is the biggest problem with forums like these. Sadly however we are never going to get rid of the flamers and idiots, my idea was just that, an idea and as such could do with being talked over and refined. It would be nice if we could all, no matter who we are and what corp/alliance/proffession we are in, post up our ideas and thoughts on making this game the best it can be without morons coming along and messing things up with their pointless drivel. Sadly however there are people out there whose sole aim seems to be acting like jackasses when they themselves have nothing useful to say. Maybe instead of banning alts and restricting newer players we could just get rid of the idiots?
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:45:00 - [29] Originally by: spurious signal Yeah, people disagreeing with the things I say I have no problem with. At least I have the balls to actually use my main to say the things I say. In all seriousness, lets look at what is practical. A distinction can probably be made between trail and paying accounts. Dont let trial accounts post anywhere except newb Q&A and recruitment. The term "alt" is just too fuzzy. I have an alt with 26mill SP. Some people have Role play alts. Not my thing but different strokes I guess. I like the idea but putting it into practise is hard.
Red Ochre	Posted - 2006.10.01 16:50:00 - [30] Originally by: spurious signal "Operation Alt Smackdown" on the Corp & Alliances forum has been a success. The number of alt troll posts there has decreased dramatically and it makes it a better place. Sure there are still idiots who try it but they get modded out PDQ. I'd like to see this happen on ALL of the EVE forums except for the "Inside EVE" and "EVE Information Centre" sections that contain the New Citizens, Ships & Modules, Missions etc forums. Alt troll posts, particularly on this forum, General Discussion contribute precisely nothing to any discussion. Hiding behind the EVE anonymity of pointless alts people smacktalk, abuse, spout drivel and generally allow the contents of their brains to spill out onto the forums like toxic waste from a broken factory. All characters in NPC or starter corps should be unable to post. The only argument against this I can see is that it would prevent new players from asking questions. There are 2 counters to this: 1) Leave the forum sections I described above open to all. And possibly Out Of Pod Experience too. 2) CCP have repeatedly said that they want to encourage new players to join player corporations as soon as possible. In a recent interview Magnus Bergsson (CCP CEO) said: Originally by: Magnus Bergsson It's often very difficult, when you just get in, to realize what the game is about. You just don't really see it in the beginning. This is why it is so critical for new players to join a corporation right away. The other players will actually help them. This idea would give yet another incentive for genuine players to make that move. I'm interested to know what other people think of this... and I await the stream of useless alt posts with absolutely no interest at all your post had good intentions, but in your typing execution you went from an opinion to opinionated (name calling, branding etc, just bad form) and hence, your post was more troll than infomercial to suggest a fix to an amusing problem. this is another one of your attempts to fix your precieved problem? post in the suggestions forum, WITH a possible solution. i find it distasteful for employees to make suggestions, whine, ***** or moan (if that is indeed the case) without presenting viable solutions in the proper forum. in your case it would be the suggestions forum. "get to steppin gina"

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