Ok, so was thinking while jumping around systems.

They have that fancy new button that can be clicked to warp to a gate and automatically jump.

Thought that was a nice feature.

However, I've been wondering the point of auto pilot warping to 15 then approaching the gate....

The reason why I wonder about it is because most ganks on done on the receiving end of the gate while you're trying to warp to the next gate.

So what's the point of warping in to 15?
Has anyone figured that out yet?

Think about it.

If CCP allows auto pilot to warp directly to gates, what changes in Eve????

People spend less time auto piloting and more time playing???

Seriously, it doen't effect anything.

Auto piloting through low and null sec will still be dumb....

People will still get ganked while trying to enter warp.....

That's it...Nothing else changes....

So it's a simple question of

What does auto pilot warping to zero have any effect on the game besides players can spend more time playing and less time afk travelling??

Ninevite, you need to reread my post. I'm against autopilot warping to zero, and by the way rarely use autopilot even in high sec, and never in low and null.

PS: I don't think ganking has anything to do with the way autopilot works right now. Not logical to depend on a bug/exploit to discourage certain behaviour.

With the new jump command there's no reason for such an autopilot. One click per minute is all they ask of you.

again, AP warp to 10 results not just from devs lazyness, its an intended drawback and is fully balanced.
Dont fly afk.

Stop.

Hitting.

The.

Enter.

Key.

For.

The.

Sake.

Of.

My.

Eyes.

Thank.

You.

In.

Advance.

Also this idea is bad. Everything needs drawbacks; the drawback of autopilot is that you slowboat to each gate after dropping out of warp.

Game has to remain broken so that fail pirates can have kills?
It's a basic feature you'd expect from any game that's out of beta. Google autopilot macro. It's in wider usage than ratting/mining macro, because there's overwhelming demand for it. Seriously, you still click to travel those days? Who does that anymore? CCP should get their heads out of the sand. This is implemented, one way or another.

There is no drawback for ap macros that everyone and their mother uses. You and OP are the only ones still clicking away... When you attempt to deprive simple basic features in overwhelming demand, it will get implemented, just not by you, and in a way you may not like.


So uh....this is you confessing to using a macro in game then?

Game has to remain broken so that fail pirates can have kills?

This is implemented, one way or another.

I wouldn't really call these people "fail pirates." More of "opportunists" as they are seizing the opportunity when people autopilot phat lewts like morons.

So is macro mining/ratting. I guess they should just write some scripts that we can use in-game since errybody is doing it anyway amirite?

I wouldn't really call these people "fail pirates." More of "opportunists" as they are seizing the opportunity when people autopilot phat lewts like morons.




So is macro mining/ratting. I guess they should just write some scripts that we can use in-game since errybody is doing it anyway amirite?

Not everyone is macro mining/ratting. Ratting in particular requires far more sophisticated bots. And yes, just about everyone uses travel macros, numerous versions widely available for free, since it's so simple to script. I don't tell you what should be, only what is, since you seem to have you head stuck in the sand just like CCP, and has no idea what's happening.

Confirming I love the taste of sand.

But really....can you show me where you gathered this great intel from? I would love to know your source of information for knowing that JUST ABOUT EVERYONE uses travel macros.

Your argument is literally based 100% on theoretical data. You really think thats....effective?

Chat, metagaming, Google? You know, communicate with ppl, make some friends, troll the forums, get the latest news, and you won't be stuck traveling via clicking...

Chat, metagaming, Google? You know, communicate with ppl, make some friends, troll the forums, get the latest news, and you won't be stuck traveling via clicking...

Unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with Sal on this one.
Simply because any time I go travelling around I see tons of people in tons of different ships (mostly indy's and freighters) that are in AP.

However, it still doesn't change the fact the I feel that reducing jump range to 0 for auto pilot does nothing to Eve but increase the quality of life, increase the amount of play time and less afk travel, but also just gets things moving a little faster in Eve, and reduces server load cause now auto pilot won't have to factor approaching a gate.(if even not by much)

I cant help it, I want to point out that most of the people arguing this proposal are completely missing one of the points that the original posts attempted to make really clear. you can say ganking is not an exploit, and you are entirely correct. that shouldnt have been said in the first place. basically what I got of of this thread was that Joe Risalo, tried to make the arguement that changing auto warp to 0 would not have much effect on whether someone gets ganked. practically nobody commented on this. mostly I beleive its cause either you disagree but realize that if you complained then it would make you sound like a lazy wuss ganker, or you agree but are afraid of the change.

Now the real dificulty is figuring out if this is actually awarding laziness in piloting or not. some of you do make good points thats its in place to make someone actually fly their own ship, but that does not mean the system could not be improved. what do you guys think of the idea of adding a skill that would improve your auto piloting? (it doesnt have to reach 0, mabye it could max out at 5km, I'm pretty sure thats what the guy said where i first saw the idea)

personally i restate that I think this change should go through. and strongly believe that every who disagrees with it, would completly forget about it within a month or two of it being implemented. really think about it. does it matter that much to you? you realize that every one would reap the benefit, not just lazy carebears?

I only use auto pilot when i have to go do something, or when my girl needs me, or when Im leaving the house for a while. being ganked while i'm away is a risk i willingly take. if auto pilot warped to zero, i would actually use it while im playing, like i said before. It might help lazy people, but it would also help multitaskers.