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korekk	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:28:00 - [1] Prove me wrong
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:29:00 - [2] Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Join Tharsis! - Get Sexy Sigs
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher
Kyle Sucks	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Tasty Burger Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher please dont bring t1 frigates into this -.- ----------- www.stavros-online.com
Symb Everway Minmatar TetraMorph Nexus Inc. The Imperial Order	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Kyle Sucks Originally by: Tasty Burger Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher please dont bring t1 frigates into this -.- Yeah, and don't bring t1 cruisers, t1 battleships, t2 frigates, or t2 cruisers into this either! For god's sake man!
Antodias Puppets on Steroids iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:55:00 - [6] Avatar. Seriously though. The Punisher pwns you all.
korekk	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Tasty Burger Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher Curse, Pilgrim sure they¦r great but then again they dont represent the amarr race, funny how the best ships are not amarrian design huh. Retribution - 1 mid slot so no Arbitrator - Read above Zealot - Needs a 5th turret Armageddon - Does the job Punisher - dont know dont care
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:59:00 - [8] Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows Tux hates Caldari. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:05:00 - [9] Amarr do have issues, but not to the level of your so-called racial hatred. Amarr had a very easy run in Eve for a long time, and now they are taking the fall for it. They'll come back up in the nerf/boost cycle soon enough. It happens. You have some very good ships, and some poor ones. Name a race that doesn't. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Grml Z Mad-Warping-Maniacs	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Tasty Burger Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher me _____________ I am a NoOb,and i am proud to be one! _____________ i cant speak english
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Verus Potestas You have some very good ships, and some poor ones. Name a race that doesn't. Jove. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Gabriel Karade Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:36:00 - [12] Originally by: korekk Prove me wrong Generally it's accepted that upon making an assertion, one has to prove it... ...so prove it then ---------- - Office Linebacker -
Andreask14 Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:45:00 - [13] <- trained for gallente recently. Amarr ? They look cool, thats about it.
Hydrian Alante The Loot Company	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:02:00 - [14] Edited by: Hydrian Alante on 01/10/2006 22:04:21 Tux doesn¦t hate Amarr! He hates the whole game! If he don¦t then he would have fixed stuff that is broken for almost a year. Geez, there are more ppl out there that are copying my sig from day to day. Gonna demand some isk!
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Andreask14 <- trained for gallente recently. Amarr ? They look cool, thats about it. Same here. Although every race is burdened with its share of utterly useless ships (Ares - LOL), Amarr have been hit with a quadruple problem... - Nos / high weapon cap dependency - ECM / lack of drones - EANM-plates / mostly EM damage - Unsustainable cap injector tanks / no spare midslot Please note that all this content has been around for a very long time, so blaming CCP for a nerf is unwarranted and would be completely missing the point. The most accurate term for this would probably be convergent evolution. That is, the real issue is trends in usage, and it appears that the player community's own fashions, its own desire to own in the hardest way possible, are driving this nerf. Most Amarr ships have been rendered obsolete not through changes to Amarr, but because every other race has an array of setups which effectively counter Amarr while minimising their own vulnerabilities. Amarr have essentially been in danger of being outclassed for some time, and now that people are embracing nos, passive armour tanks and T2 drones, this has happened. All races have had their fair of rotating nerfs and boosts in the past, and I am sure some future rearrangement of stats and bonuses will make Amarr cool again. But it will take time to work out specifically what should be changed and how.
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:34:00 - [16] So best tanks, awesome damage, decent speed and some of the best gang ships in eve... suck? buhuu?
Siakel	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Tasty Burger So best tanks, awesome damage, decent speed and some of the best gang ships in eve... suck? buhuu? Best tanks? Outtanked by Caldari, tanks about even with Gallente except for a few ships. Awesome damage? Out-DPSed by Gallente and Minmatar in every shipclass except Battleship, and possibly CBCs. Decent speed.. I suppose. Some of the best gang ships.. a few, but aside from the Armageddon most are outclassed by other ships even in the 'gang ships' role.
tufs Caldari Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:59:00 - [18] Originally by: korekk Originally by: Tasty Burger Originally by: Aeaus Curse. Pilgrim. Archon. Retribution Arbitrator Zealot Armageddon Punisher Curse, Pilgrim sure they¦r great but then again they dont represent the amarr race, funny how the best ships are not amarrian design huh. Retribution - 1 mid slot so no Arbitrator - Read above Zealot - Needs a 5th turret Armageddon - Does the job Punisher - dont know dont care Just cause you cant fly em dont mean Tux hates amarr. Please please please stfukthnx !
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:00:00 - [19] Edited by: Aramendel on 01/10/2006 23:02:34 Originally by: Tasty Burger So best tanks, awesome damage, decent speed and some of the best gang ships in eve... suck? buhuu? The point is that they do not have this really anymore. The best tank BS is since quite some time not the apoc, but the raven. Also, with the cap injector boost a mega or pest can run a dual rep tank just as well as an amarr BS - all amarr really have is a bit more base armor. Their higher cap is easily negated by the high energyuse of lasers since the caprecharge/sec values of most amarr ships are identical to other ships (or slightly higher, but not even close to being higher enough to balance out the higher capuse). For example, vs the typhoon an arma has 300ish more base cap and 7% higher caprecharge. 7 MP2 eat this cap advantage in less than 13 seconds. The higher caprecharge is after skills and fittings about 2 more cap/sec at max recharge. 7 MP2 need (after ship & skills) 25 cap/sec. "Awesome damage" - against untanked targets, yes. Against plated they actually do considerably less dps than projectiles. Against hardered armor they used to be ok due to the pre-RMR 3 active setup, but with the EAN2 buff they have there now just the same problems as with plates. Sure, they are good vs shields. But problem is that we have ATM perhaps 1 out of 5 ship shieldtanking in PvP. Even if every ship which can effeciently shieldtank would do so we would still have twice as many armor than shieldtankers ingame. Decent speed... Well, if anything "average". Amarr ships are pretty much tied with gallente in spped. Sometimes the ammar ship is faster, sometimes the gallente ship. Best gang ships.. which? The only one which comes into my mind is the arma.
Litus Arowar	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Originally by: Andreask14 <- trained for gallente recently. Amarr ? They look cool, thats about it. Same here. Although every race is burdened with its share of utterly useless ships (Ares - LOL), Amarr have been hit with a quadruple problem... - Nos / high weapon cap dependency - ECM / lack of drones - EANM-plates / mostly EM damage - Unsustainable cap injector tanks / no spare midslot Please note that all this content has been around for a very long time, so blaming CCP for a nerf is unwarranted and would be completely missing the point. The most accurate term for this would probably be convergent evolution. That is, the real issue is trends in usage, and it appears that the player community's own fashions, its own desire to own in the hardest way possible, are driving this nerf. Most Amarr ships have been rendered obsolete not through changes to Amarr, but because every other race has an array of setups which effectively counter Amarr while minimising their own vulnerabilities. Amarr have essentially been in danger of being outclassed for some time, and now that people are embracing nos, passive armour tanks and T2 drones, this has happened. All races have had their fair of rotating nerfs and boosts in the past, and I am sure some future rearrangement of stats and bonuses will make Amarr cool again. But it will take time to work out specifically what should be changed and how. this says it best... it's not something that will be fixed over night, nor should it be... changes will come slowly, but eventually some form of balance will be attained... for now, you can keep whining, but it's not one specific thing that's ***** up balane, it's an array of things, simply because the amarr are more focused on damage type, tank type, and overall style of combat than other races... and yes, that's the reason that some of the best amarr ships (class-wise) are ones that don't use standard amarr tactics (arbitrator and spinoffs), because it allows you to leave your designated role... hell, the apoc with arties is another good example cytomatrix> Try sitting inside a big frickin ball filled up with glue and tubes stuck up your nose and your arse. Then compare RL and Eve.**
Megadon Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:07:00 - [21] What about the Geddon with Tech 2 MegaPulses? How does that compare with other tier 1 battleships?
Blitzkrieg The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:08:00 - [22] I am not sure what he hates, but I can clearly see what he loves :GALLENTE!
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Tasty Burger So best tanks, awesome damage, decent speed and some of the best gang ships in eve... suck? buhuu? Show me this "awesome damage" and "best tanks". Seriously. Fit EANMs and Amarr damage goes down the drain. With active tanking as popular as it is right now (this goes hand-in-hand with nos), Amarr aren't the tanking kings either. Our weapons eat cap, which has become the very essence of some tanks.
Cmdr Sy EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Megadon What about the Geddon with Tech 2 MegaPulses? How does that compare with other tier 1 battleships? There is no comparing it to the other BS. The Dominix owns it, the Scorpion is unique and not really in the same class as any of the other BS, and the Typhoon, don't know, but I hear it is evil. The Armageddon is a very good BS, provided you do not get target-jammed, nossed or droned to death from range, or have a Blasterthron MWD into you. It also helps to have a cap injector fitted so the guns keep firing. It is just as well the drone bay is large - heavy ECM/TD/SW drones can be a good investment to make up for the lack of mid slot EW. There is no denying that the T2 megapulse Armageddon does awesome damage, but it is paper thin and its cap is precarious. It can't take damage at all.
Ghoest	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:52:00 - [25] Tux hates Ammar. Tux hates Projectiles. Tux hates Caldari PVP. I think a good case can be made for any of those. Wherever you went - here you are.
Megadon Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Originally by: Megadon What about the Geddon with Tech 2 MegaPulses? How does that compare with other tier 1 battleships? There is no comparing it to the other BS. The Dominix owns it, the Scorpion is unique and not really in the same class as any of the other BS, and the Typhoon, don't know, but I hear it is evil. The Armageddon is a very good BS, provided you do not get target-jammed, nossed or droned to death from range, or have a Blasterthron MWD into you. It also helps to have a cap injector fitted so the guns keep firing. It is just as well the drone bay is large - heavy ECM/TD/SW drones can be a good investment to make up for the lack of mid slot EW. There is no denying that the T2 megapulse Armageddon does awesome damage, but it is paper thin and its cap is precarious. It can't take damage at all. Well... maybe its time to make pulses uber again like they used to be before they got nerfed to hell. At least that would offset the fact they drink energy at an insane rate.
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:06:00 - [27] gallente is best race screw u all to hell!
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:11:00 - [28] Originally by: Blitzkrieg I am not sure what he hates, but I can clearly see what he loves :GALLENTE! Hey tux.....my blasters need another boost....they dont pwn enough Serious -> Amarr dont suck. They dont have a tank problem, and THEY DONT HAVE A DMG PROBLEM FFS . Flame against some Amarr-chars removed After 3 years in EvE, I finaly can say, that I lost more ships due to lag and bugs, than in any battle.
Kidd Billups Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:56:00 - [29] Gallente > Caldari = Minmatar > Plastic Bat > Amarr... But i still love amarr ------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn CCP 4tL :(
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:00:00 - [30] Absolution... -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"

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