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Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:35:00 - [1] I've seen that question about a dozen times in as many months. So let's try and answer it a bit by listing things that a\ren't caldari and yet, still pwn. . Drones. Caldari really aint very good with them. small drone bays, nothing that can really take advantage of drones apart from as an afterthought . Sniping. Missiles just don't cut it. Yes, you can hit out to range too (though not as extreme as some of these uber TII guns) but you've got a very delayed alpha strike. Ravens can't snipe. Yes, the new tier III battleship will snipe with rails, but it can't right now. . Blasterboats. Deimos, Megathron, Rax. MWD in your face, lay on the pain. Highest DPS there is. . Hauling. Badgers suck ass. Iterons can carry small moons. . Recon Ships. Caldari get EW boats, which is all well and good, but consider the rest. super long range scramblers, webbers, nosferatu. Awesome . ORE. Barges mine better than ravens do. there's a lot more, and people will probably add to it (unless they roast me in the flames ofc.) Moved from General Discussion. -Ivan K Originally by: Oveur Internally dismissed as carebear whine, we quietly moved our Kestrels to another system.
Reggie Stoneloader	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:38:00 - [2] As a Caldari pilot, I agree with you. I like my Kestrels, but otherwise you need a whole team of dudes to PvP in Caldari ships. Okay, the Crow's pretty terrific too.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:39:00 - [3] Slow as hell Can't tank and tackle Boring RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Christina Vallentine Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:40:00 - [4] I don't fly caldari for none of the above reasons. I don't fly caldari ships because they are UGLY. Every one of them comes complete with a badly painted redish line on them, how... nice.
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:42:00 - [5] cause u must waste missles and ammar not in PvE theyr ub3r
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:43:00 - [6] Not that I don't agree, but I have to take away your point about hauling. Flying an Iteron Mk V is basically like flying a poor man's transport ship because it take almost the same training time (which is fully transferrable to transport ship training). Iteron Mk V was supposed to pwn. Once you get on transport ship-level they all pwn so much that I have to ask: Who really cares?
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Christina Vallentine I don't fly caldari for none of the above reasons. I don't fly caldari ships because they are UGLY. Every one of them comes complete with a badly painted redish line on them, how... nice. Don't forget the anal probes that are scattered across the surface of them. Too bad the Caracal doesn't @$$r@p3 in PvP as hard as it was apparently meant to. However, it still manages to penetrate the surface.
Uninvited Guest	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:51:00 - [8] -Drones are for pussies -Sniping: what about the Eagle? One of the best sniping ships out there.. -Blasterboat: again, the Eagle: a suprising ship with blasters. -Hauling: The Charon has the biggest cargo bay of all the freighters.
carric	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:04:00 - [9] If you got like 1bn to spend on a super-tanked BS f÷r 10/10 plex, you choose scorpion, yes a caldari ship.
Arbenowskee Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Uninvited Guest -Drones are for pussies -Sniping: what about the Eagle? One of the best sniping ships out there.. -Blasterboat: again, the Eagle: a suprising ship with blasters. -Hauling: The Charon has the biggest cargo bay of all the freighters. eagle one of the best snipers? u have to be kidding right? yes it can hit at nice ranges but thats all. just hit. it cannot kill. not much of a sniping imo. blaster? are u on drugs m8? most t1 cruisers do more dmg with close range guns. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig too large. Maximum size 400x120 and 24000 bytes. -Oiri Yusko
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:25:00 - [11] Originally by: DeadRow When the rokh comes out it'll have one of, if not the, best sniper ship ingame. Pity they wont remove the targetting cap tho So true. The Rokh is really gimped by the fact that it can't use its range advantage. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Uninvited Guest -Sniping: what about the Eagle? One of the best sniping ships out there.. Are you familiar with the DPS of a sniper Eagle, which has only 4 turrets, mind you? Originally by: Uninvited Guest -Blasterboat: again, the Eagle: a suprising ship with blasters. A relatively popular fitting, but overall extremely limited and only effective in a very few rare situations, and probably mostly used because people have invested in the skills for the ship and would rather throw blasters on it than retrain for a real close-range ship. The Zealot, Deimos, Ishtar, Munnin, and Vagabond all pretty much outclass the Blaster Eagle at short range. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! byahahahahaha!11 Sig Pwnt - Immy
DeadRow True Core	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:25:00 - [13] When the rokh comes out it'll have one of, if not the, best sniper ship ingame. Pity they wont remove the targetting cap tho /DeadRow, True Core
Snikkt Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Uninvited Guest -Drones are for pussies Tch.. Noob.. I'm guessing you've never had 5 Ogre II's on you lead by a very skilled drone pilot in a Domi? ------------------- If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Originally by: Aloysia Leyshon Shuttels are urban myth pure and simple. I've yet to see evidence of an actual shuttle.[/qu
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari The Rokh is really gimped by the fact that it can't use its range advantage. Maybe not with t2 ammo, but with T1 you'll be able to use like antimatter out to 100km or something silly. As for blasterboats, caldari set for tank have possibly the hardest tanks in the game. Sure, they're not sustainable but they can tank a huge amount of damage (eg. gankboats) for long enough to kill them (less so in the case of the mega, a neut II thron tears through most stuff, but the deimos isnt very effective against say... a cerb with 10k of shield ) I personally don't fly caldari because it uses 3 things I really dont enjoy; missiles, ecm and shield tanks Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:00:00 - [16] Edited by: Ath Amon on 01/10/2006 22:02:59 no worries!!!! the rokh is incoming to fix some of these things... Quote: . Sniping. Missiles just don't cut it. Yes, you can hit out to range too (though not as extreme as some of these uber TII guns) but you've got a very delayed alpha strike. Ravens can't snipe. Yes, the new tier III battleship will snipe with rails, but it can't right now. Rokh will be probably a very popular long range sniper... 8 guns (similar damage to a mega), 50% range bonus not to say a strong tank. Quote: . Blasterboats. Deimos, Megathron, Rax. MWD in your face, lay on the pain. Highest DPS there is. and.... here the Rokh... due to its range bonus mod and its 8 turrets it actually can outdamage a blasterthron (exept in very close range) and probably wil be able to fit a good tank/gank setup. mining: rokh with 8 mining lasers, full tanked and a lot of stabs.... hard times for mining apocs... for recon i think there is not much to complain... or maybe caldari should be also the master of scrambling, webbin, painting, nossing etc etc? now it remains... drones... ok gallente need something and badger that sucks...
MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:30:00 - [17] becous dominix is moar evil and imba then them ravens or scorps, to put it in a simple way :p
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:34:00 - [18] lol, caldari.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:42:00 - [19] Famous whorums fly Caldari and all their fanbois follow. --------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness and God is kind.
Blitzkrieg The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:04:00 - [20] So true, I barely see any Caldari ships these days. I can't wait for the tier 3 bs cause as it is, the caldari BS are totally useless, can't even npc in it! Nerf Amarr, minmaturd and Gallente
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Christina Vallentine I don't fly caldari for none of the above reasons. I don't fly caldari ships because they are UGLY. Every one of them comes complete with a badly painted redish line on them, how... nice. QFT
Kazaam Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Kazaam on 01/10/2006 23:09:37 Originally by: Ath Amon and.... here the Rokh... due to its range bonus mod and its 8 turrets it actually can outdamage a blasterthron (exept in very close range) and probably wil be able to fit a good tank/gank setup. Kinda disagree. Even if I'm Caldari myself, the Rokh might not be an effective blasterboat due to the legendary Caldari's slug speed and agility, along with apparently no tracking bonus on the Rokh, which is kinda essential for blasterboats. A good news with it's range bonus is it would easily use 350's II instead of 425's II. It would only suffer a 'slight' range penalty but the same 'slight' damage reduction. AND not to say, 350's II are far cheaper than 425's II these days :S _________________________________________
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Kazaam A good news with it's range bonus is it would easily use 350's II instead of 425's II. It would only suffer a 'slight' range penalty but the same 'slight' damage reduction. AND not to say, 350's II are far cheaper than 425's II these days :S Wait... Thats actually a pritty decent point!
Beetle Boy Minmatar Cursed Spawn Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:15:00 - [24] Its nice to be Minmatar becuase you don't have to fly caldari and well i like b being differnet and having 50% of the game caldari i like being the smallest race
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Kazaam Edited by: Kazaam on 01/10/2006 23:09:37 Originally by: Ath Amon and.... here the Rokh... due to its range bonus mod and its 8 turrets it actually can outdamage a blasterthron (exept in very close range) and probably wil be able to fit a good tank/gank setup. Kinda disagree. Even if I'm Caldari myself, the Rokh might not be an effective blasterboat due to the legendary Caldari's slug speed and agility, along with apparently no tracking bonus on the Rokh, which is kinda essential for blasterboats. speed and agility are low, but you have also to consider that it actually doesn't need to be a very fast ship. even whitout tracking comp/enh it should be able to outdamage a tempest/mael at 30km, tracking can be an issue but also consider that the difference in tracking between ACs and Blasters is not that big and pests/phoons have not a tracking bonus as the mega. is it true that it will not be able to keep range against a mega that will outdamage it in close range... but conside also that it will have a waaaay better tank, expecially if it will be able to fit a tank/gank setup while the mega havo to decide between the 2.
Siriyana Astrum Contract Services Group	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:55:00 - [26] Scorps make mean EWAR battleships. Other than that, it's all about the Minnie and Gallente ships, baby. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
Noriath	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:56:00 - [27] Quote: . Drones. Caldari really aint very good with them. small drone bays, nothing that can really take advantage of drones apart from as an afterthought Point taken, Caldari are not good at using drones. However, there has never been any time in Eve where drones ruled the Galaxy. What they can do for you in solo PvP may be great, but Caldari have plenty of options in solo PvP as well. Quote: . Sniping. Missiles just don't cut it. Yes, you can hit out to range too (though not as extreme as some of these uber TII guns) but you've got a very delayed alpha strike. Ravens can't snipe. Yes, the new tier III battleship will snipe with rails, but it can't right now. After Kali Caldari will have the best of all sniperships, and a great gunship in general. Quote: . Blasterboats. Deimos, Megathron, Rax. MWD in your face, lay on the pain. Highest DPS there is. Blasterships may look scary DPS wise, but close range combat is ruled by NOS in Eve, a module that can render blasters useless faster then you can say no cap! Quote: . Hauling. Badgers suck ass. Iterons can carry small moons. Look at transports and freighters... Caldari have the best ones. Quote: . Recon Ships. Caldari get EW boats, which is all well and good, but consider the rest. super long range scramblers, webbers, nosferatu. Awesome I will give this to you, The recons with webber and scrambler bonuses are indeed awsome and not of Caldari design. Quote: . ORE. Barges mine better than ravens do. Even though Roleplay-wise the ORE corp is of Gallente origin, skill wise the barges can be used by anyone, without needing any racial skills. Caldari are the most varied race in the game, and have specialized ships for all of the most powerful aplications. The most evident strength of theirs is battleships. They get the missile ship, the EW ship, and now the snipership - all of those are the best ship for a certain aplication that is incredibly powerful and useful. Ravens are without a doubt the king of NPCing, and not too bad in PvP either, Scorpions are still the most feared ship in Eve, the reason they get called primary is not because they are so bad, and the Rokh will be the most powerful sniper in the game - especially after the range reduction that Tux talked about that is supposed to pull people back from the target cap.
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:01:00 - [28] The lack of mobility is the reason I fly Minmatar more than Caldari, even though my Caldari skills are superior on the battleship level. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:03:00 - [29] i resent this post... today myself and another pilot (me mega, allie raven) killed a rattlesnake... just us... doesnt need a fleet. if you know how to use the ships they work. take raven for example: 3 ecm webber scrammer sheild booster. who needs a tank when they cant shoot you lol, we managed to pin down a rattlesnake and eat it... didnt even touch my armour (i was its target).. i will admit they have thier problems but solo pvp for caldari pilots is not a problem. ECM WINS ALL FIGHTS! 350mils worth vs 7 bils worth... ecm won that fight.
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Kazaam Edited by: Kazaam on 01/10/2006 23:09:37 Originally by: Ath Amon and.... here the Rokh... due to its range bonus mod and its 8 turrets it actually can outdamage a blasterthron (exept in very close range) and probably wil be able to fit a good tank/gank setup. Kinda disagree. Even if I'm Caldari myself, the Rokh might not be an effective blasterboat due to the legendary Caldari's slug speed and agility, along with apparently no tracking bonus on the Rokh, which is kinda essential for blasterboats. omg! hyperion is blasterboat with no trackin boni so suxxor then and we know that domi + blasters can't be real too
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:53:00 - [31] This thread makes my eyes bleed.
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:05:00 - [32] Originally by: James Draekn Recons - If in a Lachesis or Arazu I could shutdown (solo) 3 battleships I would love it, they at best can only shutdown 2 battleships. You can, in a Falcon or Rook. You have the range and jamming strength bonuses, so until the devs nerf ECM, you OWN this category by a long shot. they don't wanna nerf ECM they wanna nerf non-ew oriented ships using ECM [Domi & Raven mostly] regular stuff like scorp/rook/falcon r nothing to do with those.. all forms of ew is like balanced, just track. disruptors that suxxor
Cipher7 Dark and Light inc.	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:05:00 - [33] IMO Caldari is the most powerful faction in the game. I rather be mediocre with a cooler looking ship. <3 Minnie/Gallente
Noriath	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:31:00 - [34] ECM oriented ships are just as stupid... ECM is just an idiotic system, as long as you can't fight without targeting there should be nothing that stops you from it...
Ghoest	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:33:00 - [35] "Why Fly Anything But Caldari?" Simple - PVP Wherever you went - here you are.
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.02 07:48:00 - [36] Edited by: Grey Area on 02/10/2006 07:49:29 Originally by: Kazaam AND not to say, 350's II are far cheaper than 425's II these days :S You really think that's going to be true AFTER the release of the Rokh (which, incidentally, is a REALLY crappy name) --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.02 07:58:00 - [37] Originally by: James Draekn Blasterboats - Do you realize what a MWD does to your sig radius, and versus a skilled pilot in a close range Torp Raven, ouch. A Torp Raven with a good pilot plugged in is more damaging then a blasterthron, and your weapons take zero cap. You don't have to worry about tracking and all your cap goes to tank. In a Blasterthron I have to MWD into range, once in range use my weapons (they use lots of cap, which still needs to be looked at by the devs) and all the while tanking your damage from the moment you locked me. Oh, and on the way in my sig radius is the size of a planet. OK - assuming we are talking about equal sized ships and weapons, the sig radius thing is a smokescreen...making your sig bigger once the critical point has been reached does NOT increase the damage you take. The only time this comes into effect is if your blasterboat is (for example) a cruiser and you are going up against a Raven firing cruise or Torps. But then you have a simple choice...go in slow and take less damage, but from more salvos, or go in fast and take MORE damage, but from less salvos (and of course, be in range for your weapons much quicker). It is also possible to pulse your MWD so that it's not active when you get hit (tricky with lag and all I know, but it IS possible)...this option gives the missile pilot a choice too...he can either group fire and hope to catch you with one big salvo with your MWD on, or he can chain fire and guarantee to catch you with at least SOME missiles for higher damage. And you said "A torp Raven with a good pilot plugged in is more damaging than a Blasterthron"...not really fair to compare a good pilot to a poor one...if there is also a good pilot in the Blasterthron, then I know who my money would be on. --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:16:00 - [38] I'm not convinced anyone would argue that Caldari aren't the best at PvE. Which is why they're so popular. The Kestrel, Caracal and Raven are almost perfectly designed to abuse the 'combat logic' of an NPC, with the added bonus of switchable damage types. (Although only the Raven gets a 'global' damage type bonus, in the form of RoF). For PvP, Caldari ships tend to get a back seat. The raven and scorp still have their place. At the back somewhere, because they're so slooow. Both Raven and Scorp are good support ships, but not really as hot for solo work. In the other ship classes, I'm of the opinion that the other races have better PvP ships. Certainly in the T1 arena, T2 I'm less sure about, since I can't fly as many T2 ships. For PvP in frigates or cruisers, I'd have to say minmatar or gallente would be my first choice. I'm ignoring amarr, as I'm utterly unfamiliar with the ships. I like the caracal and moa, don't get me wrong, but the caracal just lacks firepower 230 dps with max skills and a T2 fit, falls far shy of the gankage that a max skills T2 fitted Thorax, Vexor, Rupture will do.
Noriath	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:27:00 - [39] Come on, don't try to sell us slow as a real disadvantage in a game where all the real movement is done by warping anyways. The fact is, Caldari do brilliantly in small gang PvP, you find Ravens in many a gang as prime damage dealers, especially with tech 2 torps out. Scorpions are still all over the place and can single handedly turn the tide of a battle... The upcoming Rokh is going to fill the only deficiency the Caldari have, which is inability to deal instant damage at range. There is no reason to train anything but Caldari really. After Kali there is just nothing they can't do. Look at Amarr by comparison, after Kali all they have is a huge dilema of figuring out how to benefit from the miniscule differences between their three guns + armor ships. Gallente and Minmatar aren't hit quite as bad, but still, the Tempest will be pointless, because it doesn't matter if it has more DPS at close range then Maelstrom since Typhoon still has more them Tempest. And as for the Megathron being a long range ship? Well screw long range ships with tracking bonuses. Tracking is a total joke in Eve anyways, especially since the range mods a longrange ship HAS to fit boost it's tracking to ridiculous levels anyways.
Rick Dentill Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:49:00 - [40] I guess its how you use them whether they are worth training or not. I have friends who use them very effectively in pvp and/or pve. I never really got the whole shield tanking thing so went for Armor boats. I made some silly selections when I made Rick and my attributes suck so I train drones as itÆs my only strong (ish) combination. This has limited me to Gallente and pilgrim/curse. I still fly my trusty badger Mk 2 though. _______ http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/page.php?id=dd
Kazaam Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:14:00 - [41] Edited by: Kazaam on 02/10/2006 10:15:08 Originally by: Grey Area Edited by: Grey Area on 02/10/2006 07:49:29 Originally by: Kazaam AND not to say, 350's II are far cheaper than 425's II these days :S You really think that's going to be true AFTER the release of the Rokh (which, incidentally, is a REALLY crappy name) I don't. The point is if you wanna prepare Revelations' release properly, it's time NOW to make yourself some reserves with cheap 350's II. No doubt I'm not the only one to have thought about that and probably more and more people will realize and vampirize 350's II stocks. But anyway, ISKs aren't meant to be saved in a bank, but spent right ? Remember, chances you'll get a target at about 230kms would be, from my pov, somehow rare, fleet engagements usually start around 160-180kms, so 350's II would be fine enough for fleets. Well depends the gang actually... if you manage to get a full Rokh gang aong with some support ofc, you may rip a jumping hostile gang off without even being scratched... maybe. PS : Also forgot to mention 8x 350's II are easier to fit compared to 8x 425's II :o _________________________________________
infraX Caldari Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:58:00 - [42] Also remember that caldari need to pack their midslots full of shield tanking gear which doesn't leave space for propulsion or webbing/scrambling etc which is why most caldari ships are best suited to group pvp rather than solo. That's just from a pvp point of view but many consider the raven to be the ultimate in npc'ing and missioning.
Denrace Amarr Psykotic Dreams Barracudas.	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:04:00 - [43] Im not too bothered as a whole, but I would just like to see a CALDARI DPS BOAT!!!! Just one, please... Smaller than a Raven too. When I think about it, a certain ship comes to mind that would suit this nicely... A BLEEDING NIGHTHAWK. Get those damn bonuses changed, think - Big Kestrel Den ________________________________________
Dragy	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:24:00 - [44] What about tier 2 caldari bc =) ? It looks so nice, i hope that it'll use mostly hybrids ^_^
Zulef	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:43:00 - [45] Originally by: Sergio Ling . ORE. Barges mine better than ravens do. Barges mine better than all the other races BS's though aswell I'm not an alt, I just don't have a face.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:49:00 - [46] I think people in this thread has forgotten the main reason why one shouldn't fly Caldari ships. They are fugly. Sort of the same reason why one should avoid certain Minmatar ships, as well. And the Tormentor (aka Space Shrimp). - Three years old
Celeste Storm Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:04:00 - [47] Originally by: Ithildin I think people in this thread has forgotten the main reason why one shouldn't fly Caldari ships. They are fugly. Sort of the same reason why one should avoid certain Minmatar ships, as well. And the Tormentor (aka Space Shrimp). u mean like the trash 'o can phoon? Cel. Originally by: Eldo Davip (Forum Mod) People shouldn't whine because something got taken away which wasn't theirs to begin with.
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:14:00 - [48] Originally by: Dragy What about tier 2 caldari bc =) ? It looks so nice, i hope that it'll use mostly hybrids ^_^ Sorry, but if what was announced stays true, the Tier 2 Caldari BC will be a missile ship ... the Ferox is the railboat, even if the cookie cutter noob friendly nbertank setup is made up with launchers ... By the way, you can fit a real strong passive tank on a Ferox with railguns, I'm currently doing missions with my rail-Ferox, 11K of shields (10917 to be precise) with nice resists and a good recharge rate ... but you need a lot more skills.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:16:00 - [49] Caldari = Easy Mode Blasterboats = Fun Mode Fun Mode > Easy Mode, win or lose ---------- Nerf Caldaro!

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