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Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:41:00 - [1] Reports are coming in from the field - ASCN have engaged their doomsday device against a BoB fleet. Initial reports state that, unfortunately, the weapon was not fired upon the correct cynosaural field, and subsequently, destroyed many of ASCN's own support. We anxiously await the next.. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Myndpyre Ryche Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:44:00 - [2] So ummm . . whats "THIS" button do? BBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:44:00 - [3] An unfortunate end to some brave ASCN pilots :P
SasRipper Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:44:00 - [4] Lmao!!! Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:44:00 - [5] If this is true... ..oh dear :/
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:44:00 - [6] cough rofl Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Toppar Wear	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:45:00 - [7] You may not post in this forum without showing your corporation/alliance identifiers, as detailed in the rules - Serathu ([email protected])
Dust Angel True Core	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [8] Cyvok, stay away from the red buttonz! of dhoom! _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics? Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
VonKaplanek III Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [9] Boooooooooom
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [10] OH that is funny if its true

Shittake RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [11] Any fraps or screenshots? Would be cool to see :)
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [12] Does the doomsday device require the activator to SPELL OUT the cynofield's name? If so... well you know.. I wonder what will happen to your client after you fire that thing... I guess having blink enabled on your inbox might be a bad thing... :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:46:00 - [13] i have to admit i peed my pants lil bit.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
Velt Lhasar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:47:00 - [14] I like how BOB loged off to avoid losses from doomsday, very classy
Low Blow Amarr Black Eclipse Corp	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:47:00 - [15] it was awesome, especially when they wtfdoomdayswhatgoinon some of their support. "only the dead have seen the end of the war"
N2IHC Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:47:00 - [16] So....my poor lil stabber was "judged" to be lacking... /cry.... First time ive lost a ship to a doomsday tbh, but man that was the ultimate leeroy... stupidly warping to a glowing white blob was not very smart but oh so fun :)
Rolled Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:48:00 - [17] If people take anything bob says at face value they are fools. 11 bobits dead in the blast.
Aibee Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:48:00 - [18] lmao
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:49:00 - [19] That was comedy gold. I have no idea how many BB died in that. On the field. Which i was at PERSONALLY there were 4 blue cans. Therefore there can't be more then that dead bob. Now i saw atleast 5 dead ascn pods. To their own doomsday. The killboard will reeveal all. Give it some time.
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:49:00 - [20] hmm thats why we're looting bob cans now Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes

Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:49:00 - [21] man i saw this bright light and activated my hardeners on the command ship, htought it was over. weridly tho it didnt do anything to mostof us in grid, still tho - nice show. :P love this war alrdy :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
CEO Pyrex DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:50:00 - [22] i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :}
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:51:00 - [23] More BoB were killed then ASCN by a margin of 4 to 1. -CYVOK-
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:51:00 - [24] Originally by: CEO Pyrex i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :} Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:52:00 - [25] Edited by: Crohnx on 01/10/2006 22:52:50 hmm we'll see what kb says... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 - [26] Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... .. particularly with the current state of the servers..
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 - [27] Edited by: DTee on 01/10/2006 22:55:56 Originally by: CEO Pyrex i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :} Are you sure your running the "eve" client. Trust me 60 BoB didn't log off. Dying to your own doomsday though to kill some support. Good use tbh. Will you be posting your own losses to the titan?Could the BoB kills be posted on the ASCN killboard please?
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 - [28] Originally by: CEO Pyrex i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :} are you HIGH? No one logged off.. you just missed.. sorrry.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: CEO Pyrex i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :} Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. they still logged off, funny ****
Ztrain	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 - [30] Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Ductoris ([email protected])

Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:54:00 - [31] Originally by: CYVOK More BoB were killed then ASCN by a margin of 4 to 1. -CYVOK- How much did you lag from your mailbox? :) That must've been a "couple" of CONCORD mails. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:54:00 - [32] Edited by: Louis DelaBlanche on 01/10/2006 22:54:40 i hope in the panic someone frapsed it as if its as amusing as it sounds i wanna see edit: blast, beaten to it.
Muthsera S.A.S	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:54:00 - [33] There better be some fraps of it or heads will roll! :P Rabble
Low Blow Amarr Black Eclipse Corp	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:55:00 - [34] Originally by: Nez Perces Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... .. particularly with the current state of the servers.. kudos for what ? they didnt even bring it out of the POS "only the dead have seen the end of the war"
iak0pa	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:56:00 - [35] Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Ductoris ([email protected])
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Nez Perces Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... .. particularly with the current state of the servers.. I'll agree with that. Shows some metal. Nice. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:56:00 - [37] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 01/10/2006 22:56:14 "Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... .. particularly with the current state of the servers.." well nez, id agree if that titan wouldnt b sitting at a pos. not that we would do it different, just saying that thgere is no risk in using andmiilling with it. and no, there mightve been single ppl who logged off, and those who idd will get a spanking, but 60 is ridiculous. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Low Blow kudos for what ? they didnt even bring it out of the POS hmm.. didnt realise you could fire the doomsday device from inside a forcefield.. thats kind of silly. nevertheless, it makes a change from the ususal..
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:57:00 - [39] I like to see your posting kill mails of your own people on your KB lol, trying to pad the numbers out?
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:58:00 - [40] So let me get this straight: 1) ASCN pilot sets up a cynofield in the middle of a BoB swarm 2) Cyvok fires the thing 3) The damn thing has such a long delay that targets can warp off/activate mods to avoid it? 4) It damages/kills whatever's left? I've been looking forward to seeing these things in battle, but if 3 is true, that's a pretty big turnoff. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic

Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:00:00 - [41] Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've created, Cyvok. The ability to destroy an entire fleet is insignificant next to the power of a node crash.
Ashis Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:00:00 - [42] That was cool :) Numbers and e-peen aside (as one BoBbit said it best - wait for the killboard, it will reveal it all) --- it was damn fun to be there, suddenly be in a gang warp, and half a second later my entire screen goes blinding white. Just before the blinding white everything slowed down a lot - not like a jerky lag slow down, more like slow motion (it was probably lag, but it was fun none the less). History! Doomsday went off at 22:38 Eve time - put that one in the history books :) __________
Sean Drake Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:01:00 - [43] It's tottaly true BoB did not log off. They just all got dropped at the same time. And in late breaking news there are no american tanks in Iraq. Please change your signature to match the 400x120 pixel rule. - Ivan K
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:01:00 - [44] There's only one thing to say about the idea of CYVOK killing his own fleet by mistake. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Elisca Black	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:02:00 - [45] Nobody warped off....I starred at the avatars judgement and was redeemed worthy to enslave it's children.
Ztrain Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:02:00 - [46] Ok forum settings should be fixed now. Z In your safespot killin your doods!
DrDevice The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:02:00 - [47] surely there is fraps of it, there just HAS to be :) /me remembers the doomsday device going off on the test server when they were testing the new hardware
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia There's only one thing to say about the idea of CYVOK killing his own fleet by mistake. Killing 5 support is hardly a fleet and taking down 11 Bob with them is a good trade off, remember all the t2 loot the bob rats drop!
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:05:00 - [49] i'm only seeing 3 bob dead to it on the KB tbh, the others were killed by regular ships.
Rexy DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz <my shuttle is far to big to put in a sig>

Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:06:00 - [51] 1. BOB support fleet gets wiped out by Doomsday device. 2. BOB FC's cry 3. BOB tells their forum ***** propoganda monkeys to "fly my beautys.." 4. Untruths appear on EVE-O forums ____________________ MOGarmy
N2IHC Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:06:00 - [52] The hostile fleet had appeared at the station, we warped in to first load grid and then align. We were loading grid away from the hostile fleet when they began warping out. FC gave the order for support to warp in and get any tackles they could, so i engaged warp to the enemy fleet. As i entered warp, a cyno went up and a white blob appeared, grew, and my entire screen went white. I dropped out of warp, began franticaly mashing the warp out button to a belt, and died. Lagged out for a few seconds, but my stabber definitely popped. Was crazy fun, definitely the most enjoyable leeroy i've experienced!
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:12:00 - [53] Look does it really matter what happened? is there any point in lowering the forum posts to a lower level??? Weapon was fired, people died as expected, its great fun and was a good laugh for all. STFU moaning both parties and enjoy the game, this sort of crap ruins a brilliant game. Fly safe and die well. ------------------------------------------------ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying."
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:12:00 - [54] For the record I will confirm that 60 BoB did not log off, But I was on my alt and abotu 4 of them "dissappeared" and local droped during the fireing. I am sure most BoB members woudl Have considered it an "honor" to be killed by a Titan. 2 ASCN Covert-Ops were killed and 3 other ASCN ships. 10 BoB ships, almost all small stuff was killed and 1 neutral. It looks like only 16 kills in total :(, but better then nothing. My DeD mail seems to be jamed ATM. It wont display the body of the kill mails. The lag was REALLY bad. I will try to get them when I log back in tonight. -CYVOK-
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:12:00 - [55] Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Galavet Got fraps of it? Hell even got a Screenshot of it? Thats what I thought, so stfu you little ascn parrot. All you can do is repeat the crys of everyone else we have fought but will always fail to bring any hard facts to the table to back up your BS claims. Now Cyvok, were all waiting for you to update your killboard. behave, local dropped a little, as for ss, most people near it either got nuked or were not near the big boom, maybe the cyno driver did, but havent seen any yet. Dont tell me to behave after your own little nubs are claiming we cheated to avoid death. Fraps, SS or stfu. Now I am waiting for the 4 to 1 margin on the KB. I want to see the bob pilots who are not posting their losses so far. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
analev godder The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:13:00 - [56] As i saw it happen. ASCN warp to station BoB warps in to load grid. BoB small ships (support) warp to ASCN fleet White flash, ASCN warping out I spose most of bob was still at the grid loading.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:13:00 - [57] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 01/10/2006 22:56:55 "Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... .. particularly with the current state of the servers.." well nez, id agree if that titan wouldnt b sitting at a pos. not that we would do it different, just saying that thgere is no risk in using and killing with it. and no, there might`ve been single ppl who logged off, and those who idd will get a spanking, but 60 is ridiculous. Dont be such a tard. Of course its going to sit at the POS, what possible benefit of there of exposing it in the field?
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:15:00 - [58] Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz 48k with level 5 skill... getting better. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Low Blow kudos for what ? they didnt even bring it out of the POS hmm.. didnt realise you could fire the doomsday device from inside a forcefield.. thats kind of silly. nevertheless, it makes a change from the ususal.. You can't. The ship was not inside a force field, it was in open space for about 3 hours waiting for the right moment.
Trixx Bunny	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:15:00 - [60] Edited by: Trixx Bunny on 01/10/2006 23:16:39 Delete please...

0Virtu0 Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:16:00 - [61] Still waiting on those other 11 mails, CYVOK. Otherwise it could appear to the forum viewers that you are lieing. http://www.shabadoo.info/ggremedial/ - See the Goon Drama!
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:16:00 - [62] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz 48k with level 5 skill... getting better. :) Actually with lvl 4 the damage is 52,400. -CYVOK-
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:16:00 - [63] Originally by: Butter Dog Dont be such a tard. Of course its going to sit at the POS, what possible benefit of there of exposing it in the field? .. right, but its a bit silly that its doomsday device can be fired from within a forcefield in the firstplace... that simply makes it the equivalent of an additional huge sentry gun in a POS. Theoretically it would never need to leave the forcefield at all if your alliance is a defensive one.
Retnik THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:16:00 - [64] Blah ^^^ Me...
Scarcus Caldari Bre-X	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:17:00 - [65] Edited by: Scarcus on 01/10/2006 23:24:43 :) A frequent star in God's cosmic gag-reel. Sig removed. Inappropriate for the forums -Kaemonn
Commander Solo Caldari Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:17:00 - [66] Good to see the big toys being used. On the subject of all the ASCN chest banging, its not exactly a stroke of tactical genius using one, especially when you manage to nuke a bunch of your own players. Never the less, kudos for the first live activation.
Rexy DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:18:00 - [67] Originally by: Galavet Dont tell me to behave after your own little nubs are claiming we cheated to avoid death. Fraps, SS or stfu. Now I am waiting for the 4 to 1 margin on the KB. I want to see the bob pilots who are not posting their losses so far. whatever stats may seem wrong to you is not a reason to misbehave or flame, we'll see the kills once cyvok unlags <We showed ours, where is yours>
Monkey Brother Caldari Happy Life Creator	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:18:00 - [68] Sad to see how the BoB desinformation ministers are trying to play this in their favor too. Sad people indeed. -------------- Monkey Brother CEO of HAPLI For standings, contact Monkey Brother
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:20:00 - [69] Originally by: 0Virtu0 Still waiting on those other 11 mails, CYVOK. Otherwise it could appear to the forum viewers that you are lieing. Its comming, scrool up to cyvoks post.. Ohh and tell your own pilots to post theirs losses, seems like they arent doing it even if ordered to do so. Avatar ftw
Relifan Ratatil	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:20:00 - [70] You may not post in this forum without showing your corporation/alliance identifiers, as detailed in the rules - Serathu ([email protected])

Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:20:00 - [71] This thread is disappointing. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Originally by: Reddari Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
postbote	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:20:00 - [72] You may not post in this forum without showing your corporation/alliance identifiers, as detailed in the rules - Serathu ([email protected])
Karnov Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:21:00 - [73] Edited by: Karnov on 01/10/2006 23:26:16 Cyvok knows where to send any missing mails, they'll get posted as per BoB policy on all confirmed losses. So there is NO use complaing, *****ing or rumour mongering, they will be posted. Wish I could've been there to see it, even if it meant dying, but I already did that today
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:21:00 - [74] .. so can it fire the doomsday weapon from within a forcefield or not? There have been conflicting answers so far on this detail...
0Virtu0 Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:24:00 - [75] Originally by: Toppar Wear Originally by: 0Virtu0 Still waiting on those other 11 mails, CYVOK. Otherwise it could appear to the forum viewers that you are lieing. Its comming, scrool up to cyvoks post.. Ohh and tell your own pilots to post theirs losses, seems like they arent doing it even if ordered to do so. Avatar ftw I guess this is why there's only a total of 5 mails (3 BoB and 2 ASCN) that have been posted on your killboard for the past 20 minutes. When I see all 16 mails on the board, I'll believe it. http://www.shabadoo.info/ggremedial/ - See the Goon Drama!
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:24:00 - [76] Originally by: CYVOK Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz 48k with level 5 skill... getting better. :) Actually with lvl 4 the damage is 52,400. -CYVOK- Yeah, base damage is 37.5k, I don't know where I got the 32k from. Well, that's not too shabby then. A raven with level 4 hullupgrades and shield management has the following amount of HP vs EM if it fits a dcu.. shields: 7783 (6000 w/ 20% from shield man and +7.5% from dcu) armor: 17708 (6375 after hull upg 4, 64% resist w/ dcu) struct: doesn't show in item database online and can't access game. still, that's 25.4k HP on armor/shields which means you need 13.5k+ struct to survive this. That's actually a pretty neat weapon! :) Although if you add a 1600mm RT on the ship, it's survivability (esp vs a judgement) goes up by a lot. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:24:00 - [77] Well if anyone see's an interdictor and a second cyno capable ship dropping out of warp you're all mashing that warp button. I know i would :P
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:26:00 - [78] FRAPS! NOW!
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:30:00 - [79] gee.. can you stop flaming eachother for a few moments.. can the titan fire its doomsday weapon from inside a forcefield? The implications of the answer to that are quite substantial IMO Is the titan gonna be used as an additional sentry gun in a POS or does it have to be fielded with a fleet to activate its mega-weapon?
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:30:00 - [80] More important question: When will the t-shirts retaliate??? Only time can tell... -------------------------------- Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game!

Relifan Ratatil Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:30:00 - [81] Edited by: Relifan Ratatil on 01/10/2006 23:32:04 thx Cyvok
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:31:00 - [82] Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace.
Tushan	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:31:00 - [83] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi What happened to the respect and honor guys.. flaming makes war boring.. Threw BoB's recent threads and smalktalk, most of us have lost all respect for thier pilots.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 01/10/2006 23:27:50 Originally by: Bretonia Look does it really matter what happened? is there any point in lowering the forum posts to a lower level??? Weapon was fired, people died as expected, its great fun and was a good laugh for all. Here here. The OP implied that more ASCN than BoB were killed and all of a sudden there is great indignation over less than 4:1 BoB:ASCN being killed? Stop squabbling. Play the game, not the forums stalking bob again baun?
Rule2k Fate.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:32:00 - [85] splat
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:32:00 - [86] Just checked the ASCN killboard a few minutes ago, it showed 3 Bob pilots (1 stabber, 1 manticore and 1 crow) killed by judgement, along with 2 ASCN covert ops. So far both killboards say the same. ASCN losses don't appear on the bob killboard, since it's friendly fire (friendly nuking sounds closer). I'm eagerly awaiting other killmails showing the 8 remaining Bob and 3 remaining ASCN "judged" at 22:38 ... Apart from this, well, a doomsday weapon has been fired, this is a milestone in "EVE History of Alliance Warfare". I guess that it didn't really meet the expectations though, since, even discarding friendly casualties, destroying 3 enemy ships by activating a DD seems like a poor result. (Sidenote : does the cyno opener get nuked in the process? could be one of the cov-ops on the killboard) ___________________________________________ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing
Toppar Wear Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:33:00 - [87] Originally by: Nez Perces gee.. can you stop flaming eachother for a few moments.. can the titan fire its doomsday weapon from inside a forcefield? The implications of the answer to that are quite substantial IMO Is the titan gonna be used as an additional sentry gun in a POS or does it have to be fielded with a fleet to activate its mega-weapon? Here you go, that should anwser ur question Originally by: CYVOK Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Low Blow mm.. didnt realise you could fire the doomsday device from inside a forcefield.. thats kind of silly. You can't. The ship was not inside a force field, it was in open space for about 3 hours waiting for the right moment.
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:35:00 - [88] Geez, /me scratched head So I am watching the ASCN killboards, can we expect more killmails as a result of the DD activation? So much crap it is hard to find the information. Was a intedictor used to attempt to hold the BoB fleet? How long from clicking the module was there till the HP being dleivered? Does this suffer lag?
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:35:00 - [89] Originally by: Nez Perces gee.. can you stop flaming eachother for a few moments.. can the titan fire its doomsday weapon from inside a forcefield? The implications of the answer to that are quite substantial IMO Is the titan gonna be used as an additional sentry gun in a POS or does it have to be fielded with a fleet to activate its mega-weapon? it doesnt matter really if it can fire inside a field or not. There are many more invulnerability options. A) Fit a cloak B) Sit in a really really super deep safe C) Sit 1km outside of a Deathstar pos armed with small weapons and a cyno char ready in another system (and fit officer smartbombs) D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:35:00 - [90] Originally by: CYVOK You can't. The ship was not inside a force field, it was in open space for about 3 hours waiting for the right moment. yep I read that.. however, I wanted it re-confirmed, as initially BoB pilots claimed that the titan hadn't left the forcefield at all at any time.. I guess they were mistaken?

HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:36:00 - [91] LMAO! @ logoff claim!!! Are you kidding me?!! For the better part of the day, 13-14 of us had been warping into your 100+ fleet in AZN and taking Battleships/supports/bubbles and few dozen fighters away from you under your nose. To say that we logged out at the first sign of the Doomsday/Avatar in action is feckin' laughable!! Next time bring that Avatar to a gate or station, doesn't take much balls to fire it off a few meters away from a deathstar POS shield. Btw, can your carrier pilots give me an accurate number of fighters lost today? I lost count after a few dozen... >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
0Virtu0 Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:36:00 - [92] Originally by: Chowdown Geez, /me scratched head So I am watching the ASCN killboards, can we expect more killmails as a result of the DD activation? So much crap it is hard to find the information. Was a intedictor used to attempt to hold the BoB fleet? How long from clicking the module was there till the HP being dleivered? Does this suffer lag? 5 seconds. http://www.shabadoo.info/ggremedial/ - See the Goon Drama!
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:37:00 - [93] Originally by: Xeris Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've created, Cyvok. The ability to destroy an entire fleet is insignificant next to the power of a node crash. This thread was won here.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:38:00 - [94] Seeing 2 ASCN cov-ops atm, with a bob SB, inty, and cruiser. ISK wise that'd be a loss for ASCN, but we'll have to see the other kills. Also, I can't imagine any shield-tanked BoB BS not going in with atleast one EM hardener on Shield or Armor. Also, fraps of the DDD firing plz. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
analev godder The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:39:00 - [95] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Nez Perces gee.. can you stop flaming eachother for a few moments.. can the titan fire its doomsday weapon from inside a forcefield? The implications of the answer to that are quite substantial IMO Is the titan gonna be used as an additional sentry gun in a POS or does it have to be fielded with a fleet to activate its mega-weapon? it doesnt matter really if it can fire inside a field or not. There are many more invulnerability options. A) Fit a cloak B) Sit in a really really super deep safe C) Sit 1km outside of a Deathstar pos armed with small weapons and a cyno char ready in another system (and fit officer smartbombs) D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity. Option D would be rather pointless as it can not dock
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:40:00 - [96] Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 23:46:10 Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 23:41:21 Originally by: Kcel Chim it doesnt matter really if it can fire inside a field or not. There are many more invulnerability options. A) Fit a cloak B) Sit in a really really super deep safe C) Sit 1km outside of a Deathstar pos armed with small weapons and a cyno char ready in another system (and fit officer smartbombs) D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity. k.. A) Fit a cloak - Can you fire the doomsday weapon with a cloak activated? B) Sit in a really really deep safespot - Haven't these been defined as an exploit for a while now? C) Sit 1k outside a deathstar... - K.. but that does make it vulnerable somewhat, I mean at least its outside the forcefield D) Sit inside docking range of station - apparently you cant dock a titan in a station? So I think the forcefield question is still crucial, can it or cant it?
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:40:00 - [97] Originally by: Kcel Chim D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity. I can assure you, sitting within docking range isn't going to save your Titan. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Rexy DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:40:00 - [98] Originally by: Kcel Chim D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity. read up the really big capital 101 guide, station size <--> titan size <-------->, it doesnt fit <We showed ours, where is yours>
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:41:00 - [99] Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Kcel Chim D) Sit inside docking range of a station All those options give you a close to 100% immunity. read up the really big capital 101 guide, station size <--> titan size <-------->, it doesnt fit That is correct but close to stations interdictor bubbles dont work which means technically you can jump out anytime. Unless that was fixed in one of the last patches.
Arthall Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:41:00 - [100] Edited by: Arthall on 01/10/2006 23:42:37 Finding people so full of themselves has never been so easy as reading the replies from bob the builders in this thread. Have a nice day obsessing over the # of kills from a titan doomsday device, you are such a big boy acting all big on the forums. On subject, next time, eh? Hopefully this isn't the first time some ships get vaporized in a blinding fashion, but it would be nice if this was the last time people got their nickers in a twist over it.

Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:43:00 - [101] Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 01/10/2006 23:44:38 wow...after reading the 4 pages on this post i want my time spent reading it back.....can someone refund my time spent reading it? -KW Co-Ceo,The T
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:53:00 - [102] Originally by: Thaylon Sen Correct me if I'm wrong but arnt titans immune to electronic warfare? Thus all they have to do is have a cyno on standby to jump to coz they cant be scrambled... right or wrong? Right, but interdictors will keep a Titan down.
Ezra Gallente Calista Industries	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:59:00 - [103] Forgive me if this is a dupe, the forums are acting up (again...) The stats for the Judgement don't list any sort of area of effect or radius - what is the blast radius from the cyno? ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Calista Industries
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:59:00 - [104] Originally by: Thaylon Sen Correct me if I'm wrong but arnt titans immune to electronic warfare? Thus all they have to do is have a cyno on standby to jump to coz they cant be scrambled... right or wrong? Dictor bubbles prevent jumping out. ___________________________________________ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:02:00 - [105] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:03:08 Well I give up waiting for somebody to categorically state wether the doomsday weapon can be fired from within a forcefield or not.... so, I'll just reiterate what I said earlier... Kudos to ASCN for bringing your 'precious' out to play...
Graalum Foundation	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:02:00 - [106] Originally by: Thaylon Sen Correct me if I'm wrong but arnt titans immune to electronic warfare? Thus all they have to do is have a cyno on standby to jump to coz they cant be scrambled... right or wrong? that would certainly be interesting.
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:07:00 - [107] Edited by: The Armin on 02/10/2006 00:07:47 Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:03:08 ...wether the doomsday weapon can be fired from within a forcefield or not.... Cyvok already said that he couldn't.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:09:00 - [108] Originally by: CEO Pyrex i enjoyed watching 60 bob bs log off in blind panic to avoid a certain death. logofski ftl was fun to see tho :} Cute, too bad your wrong seeing as im one of those who crashed at the station. I never got to see the big boom, but logging of to safe myself ... yeah spin another one. Nobody logged off and nobody is afraid of your Titan. If we had died to it we would have laughed it off to experience and come back in a new ships. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:10:00 - [109] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. Yes, because no BOB pilot has ever logged of in combat before, you are kidding yourself if you believe that.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:10:00 - [110] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:10:19 Originally by: The Armin Cyvok already said that he couldn't. yes I saw that, but his post was preceded by two BoB pilots stating that the titan had never left the forcefield at all.... hence a re-confirmation would cancel out the BoB statements... I guess its safe to say that Cyvok is right.

Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:12:00 - [111] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:10:19 Originally by: The Armin Cyvok already said that he couldn't. yes I saw that, but his post was preceded by two BoB pilots stating that the titan had never left the forcefield at all.... hence a re-confirmation would cancel out the BoB statements... I guess its safe to say that Cyvok is right. He was the pilot! I am guessing he had the better information.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:13:00 - [112] Originally by: Vathar Originally by: Thaylon Sen Correct me if I'm wrong but arnt titans immune to electronic warfare? Thus all they have to do is have a cyno on standby to jump to coz they cant be scrambled... right or wrong? Dictor bubbles prevent jumping out. Although from experience skirmishing with Motherships, I think a couple of Officer Smartbombs can make short work of a dictor sphere as you can destroy the actual bubble 'probe' centre with a few blasts. Or so I have been led to believe.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:13:00 - [113] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 He was the pilot! I am guessing he had the better information. one would assume so... yes
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:24:00 - [114] Originally by: Butter Dog Although from experience skirmishing with Motherships, I think a couple of Officer Smartbombs can make short work of a dictor sphere as you can destroy the actual bubble 'probe' centre with a few blasts. Or so I have been led to believe. Yes you can, but with the range of those bubbles, theres a good chance of you not being in range. FYI, it only takes one blast from memory, it's about 250hp. Congrats on the first hostile firing of a DD, no matter the outcome.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:27:00 - [115] So yeah when can we expect to see all those killmails you got posted on the killboard Cyvok ? or are you just talking out of your ass again. Seriously its been a few hours and i know we didnt lose that many and you managed to post those 5 mails, you informed the community you destroyed alot more so show us the mails. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
AnA1t Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:37:00 - [116] Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
Wesley Walker Hedion University	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:40:00 - [117] Originally by: ponieus i have to admit i peed my pants lil bit.. I would see a doctor about that if I were you. Incontinence, even if brought on by laughing at a computer screen, is not to be taken lightly.
Trinity Faetal Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:48:00 - [118] in aussie acent... Oi! u can't leave that layin' over there! in american accent... thats not a lion, thats a giraffe
Leo McGarry Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:10:00 - [119] HELLO I AM REPLYING TO SOMETHING ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD WITHOUT READING THE REST OF THIS THREAD WHERE THAT THING WAS ALREADY REPLIED TO AT LEAST A DOZEN OTHER TIMES! LETS ALL KEEP DOING THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED ARE MORE ******* IDIOTIC REPLIES TO IDIOTIC STATEMENTS!
Susan DePriest Gallente Intergalactic Cargo Exporters	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:18:00 - [120] Could the mods please close this thread, it's nothing more then a flamefest and trolling for flames.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:25:00 - [121] Originally by: Susan DePriest Could the mods please close this thread, it's nothing more then a flamefest and trolling for flames. ..err no.. this is precisely what these forums need, a little bit of spice and excitement.. if you don't like it don't read it.. .. its just words.. nothing more nothing less.. nobody is going to die as a result of them..
Ugluuk Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:28:00 - [122] Originally by: Leo McGarry HELLO I AM REPLYING TO SOMETHING ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD WITHOUT READING THE REST OF THIS THREAD WHERE THAT THING WAS ALREADY REPLIED TO AT LEAST A DOZEN OTHER TIMES! LETS ALL KEEP DOING THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED ARE MORE ******* IDIOTIC REPLIES TO IDIOTIC STATEMENTS! I can only see 1 idiot
Tido Maliyu Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:29:00 - [123] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Susan DePriest Could the mods please close this thread, it's nothing more then a flamefest and trolling for flames. ..err no.. this is precisely what these forums need, a little bit of spice and excitement.. if you don't like it don't read it.. .. its just words.. nothing more nothing less.. nobody is going to die as a result of them.. It's the twisting of facts and assumptions by people that never came near that gets really, really, annoying...
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:31:00 - [124] Originally by: Tido Maliyu It's the twisting of facts and assumptions by people that never came near that gets really, really, annoying... .. thats actually half the fun.... correcting the other guy and putting him in his place.. endless hours of entertainment.. ofc only if thats your sort of thing..
Bazman Caldari The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:43:00 - [125] Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: Leo McGarry HELLO I AM REPLYING TO SOMETHING ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD WITHOUT READING THE REST OF THIS THREAD WHERE THAT THING WAS ALREADY REPLIED TO AT LEAST A DOZEN OTHER TIMES! LETS ALL KEEP DOING THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED ARE MORE ******* IDIOTIC REPLIES TO IDIOTIC STATEMENTS! I can only see 1 idiot You should read the forums more ;) ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente Whiner. Minmatar Whining is currently in training.
RogueWing Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:44:00 - [126] Edited by: RogueWing on 02/10/2006 01:44:32 Originally by: Ztrain Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Ductoris ([email protected]) Sorry to interupt the cryfest, but this is his main. He's new to Eve and new to the forums. Please don't let the "!" fool you. :P
Xeoz The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:55:00 - [127] Since everyone asked and no one has posted... Screenshot: Doomsday Explosion A half second later the screen was a complete white out.
LICENCE2KILL Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:11:00 - [128] Edited by: LICENCE2KILL on 02/10/2006 02:14:56 Originally by: CYVOK More BoB were killed then ASCN by a margin of 4 to 1. -CYVOK- Don't think so there buddy Possible wanna re think that one. Killboards say other wise.... Maybe thats just me [center]but I sure didn't see that one. KILLS
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:13:00 - [129] Edited by: CYVOK on 02/10/2006 02:14:23 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK-
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:14:00 - [130] Originally by: Xeoz Since everyone asked and no one has posted... Screenshot: Doomsday Explosion A half second later the screen was a complete white out. That is an impressive sight to be sure. I wonder why it didnt catch those ships above it? My understanding was that it caught all ships in the grid.

Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:15:00 - [131] Originally by: Velt Lhasar I like how BOB loged off to avoid losses from doomsday, very classy Please speak to your fC's or higher ups before you go off posting please you really make your self and ASCN look bad...cyvok aswell anyone else that has any kinda of power within ASCN knows that we warped off...thank you
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:17:00 - [132] Edited by: DTee on 02/10/2006 02:24:03 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK- I'm impressed and think very highly of you for being honest CYVOK, Thank you not many people would admit they are wrong. Its been fun fighting you so far. Hope it can get better.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:18:00 - [133] Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 02/10/2006 02:14:23 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK- Well we have confirmation all BoB losses are posted which are the same as the ones you posted so lets assume that all mails are posted and the 4:1 is inaccurate. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:18:00 - [134] OK! I was there with my alt and.... I frapsed it, and CBA to edit and all that but I took some screen caps to show what was left on the battlefield in terms of cans after the explosion went off. Before After RIP MGRL
tbow10 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:18:00 - [135] thanks for saying you where wrong cyvok there isn't a lot of people who would have done that.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:20:00 - [136] 4 to 1, then it wasn't. Then we logged off, then we didn't? great stories. As long as i have anything to do with a BoB gang, there will be no mass logging off in combat. oh, wait then it was 4 logging off? This just gets better. you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Kudos on the cahjoones to use the thing, but numbers speak for themselves atm. We're loving this, in fact i'd go as far as to say - we live for this. I hope you can keep this up as well, without slightly delusional ASCN CEO's talking rubbish. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Ordo Abchao Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:27:00 - [137] Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 02/10/2006 02:14:23 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK- People can flame you all they like, you found the truth, and none can fault you for that. Now everyone can calm down and wait until the next shot. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK- Order out of Chaos
DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:33:00 - [138] Originally by: Kaiu 1. BOB support fleet gets wiped out by Doomsday device. 2. BOB FC's cry 3. BOB tells their forum *** propoganda monkeys to "fly my beautys.." 4. Untruths appear on EVE-O forums yea... same old . Props to ASCN and CYVOK for lettin her rip... the bobbit forum ***s!
DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:39:00 - [139] Originally by: Kryztal So yeah when can we expect to see all those killmails you got posted on the killboard Cyvok ? or are you just talking out of your ass again. Seriously its been a few hours and i know we didnt lose that many and you managed to post those 5 mails, you informed the community you destroyed alot more so show us the mails. BoB spends far too much time on forums and killboards... play the ****in game!
Karoth Tyu FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:40:00 - [140] Originally by: Kaiu 1. BOB support fleet gets wiped out by Doomsday device. 2. BOB FC's cry 3. BOB tells their forum ***** propoganda monkeys to "fly my beautys.." 4. Untruths appear on EVE-O forums Not knocking BoB, but this made me LOL

Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:42:00 - [141] Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 02/10/2006 02:14:23 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK- Respec for clearing it up. It comes as no suprise to me that its buggy (mails and so forth) as its a brand new toy. For all we know, you get a DED mail for setting it off.
DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:42:00 - [142] Originally by: DTee Thank you not many people would admit they are wrong. When did CYVOK say he was wrong ?
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:46:00 - [143] Lack of information is one thing, such as thinking that the firing took out ASCN support, which was not stated as fact (hence initial report). However, there are degrees of inaccuracy that border on deliberate obfuscation in claiming a 4-1 ratio and 60 people logging off when fact is that the overall losses inflicted by the weapon were insignificant and the people that vanished (likely didn't log off at all) were no more than 4. ASCN, I'm warning you about what happened with PA in the past. If you start being careless about the accuracy of information and become too lenient with ridiculous claims, your own people will start disliking you.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:46:00 - [144] nice one cyvok and ascn. congrats on the real live doomsday usage on tranq. to bob. geez guys, sit down. u'r known as one of the badest alliances in eve. but still, your manner's the horror.
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:50:00 - [145] Originally by: INZi to bob. geez guys, sit down. u'r known as one of the badest alliances in eve. but still, your manner's the horror. So yes, I guess it would be good manners for us to let them state a 60-man bob gang logged off and not to correct it? Whatever
DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:53:00 - [146] All BoB's quotes will bite them in the arse next time SirMolly opens his yapper.
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:54:00 - [147] Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 02/10/2006 02:14:23 I am sure I am going to get flamed for this but. I had 16 mails from DeD after the weapon was fired. I have posted all that I could. After logging back in I can only confirm that 4 ASCN and 3 BoB fell victum. They rest are empty, or doubles or someting. No names & wont open. They could be ASCN or BoB or nothing. However confirmation in ASCN is that all ASCN members that lost their ship to the weapon have been posted. Kinda disappointed..... -CYVOK- Respect for the truth. -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:54:00 - [148] Originally by: DETOVI All BoB's quotes will bite them in the arse next time SirMolly opens his yapper. All for them? What about this quote?
Fabienne Runestar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:56:00 - [149] My affilliation with ASCN aside and how many and what were actually destroyed aside also, I have this to say. I was in a sneaky ship that wasn't aware of el Titan firing, and I came back to the scene at about 400km just as it fired. I don't ever want to be that close to a DD device going off ever again, I almost needed to grab my emergency pants, its too bad I didn't grab a screen shot but all it just really looked like a big white out from my vantage point. I had to wait a few seconds to look down at my controls to see if I still had a blinking green cov ops cloak or just a two row POD Capacitor. Damn impressive and fearsome weapon if you ask me. Now back to the war front. Everyone continue to have fun now! --
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 02:59:00 - [150] Why, oh why, oh why.... wasn't I there (well, because it was f'ing 0638 in the morning my time I suppose). Next time you fire it, please do it at a time so us in the asian timezones can be there too I'd gladly sacrifice my ship just to see it lol 'gratz on another first. CU on the battlefield My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.

Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:00:00 - [151] Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I was in a sneaky ship that wasn't aware of el Titan firing... GASP I KNEW IT! El Titan is a SPY!!!! And CYVOKS alt! GASP RIP MGRL
Tido Maliyu Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:05:00 - [152] Originally by: Hectic Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I was in a sneaky ship that wasn't aware of el Titan firing... GASP I KNEW IT! El Titan is a SPY!!!! And CYVOKS alt! GASP
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:07:00 - [153] LOL... Thats all Gah!
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:17:00 - [154] Edited by: Rikeka on 02/10/2006 03:18:52 CYVOK, dunno why you apolagize: I too had problems with the DED mail. I¦ve been told this is not something new (when killing lotsa of people quick). Still, why didn¦t the guy that killed like 60 ISS frigs on a geddon had problems too? (Once, when I was trying smartbombs for the first time, I asked 2 friends to help me and check them out. Killed both of them fast, but got some serious lag and freezing. 3 mins later, I was close to the star, with half shield/armour, and I could not open the Ship Kill reports. Could see them, but kinda it froze every time I clicked on one. Like when opening People&Places) [EDIT]Also, dunno why I coudn¦t warp out. I was not the only there (close to the star, I mean). Many in Local were also there, with no idea of what went wrong. Anyway, if you can¦t open the mails, just state that many were killed, yet you can¦t tell what mail corresponds to what kill.
Logan Williams Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:22:00 - [155] Does it really matter anyway? Either BoB will win or ASCN will win. At this point, I don't care who, just as long as one of them dies. _______________________________________________ Countdown to Pron How long before BoB chops off Cyvok's E-peen? How much longer before the ASCN doctors can sew it back on? *Tune in to
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:26:00 - [156] I got some empty mails as well one time when I took out 4 F-E frigs + pods in one blast a while back, client also lagged very badly as the 8 real mails were delivered. FREEE is Recruiting
Sebo Darrens Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 03:51:00 - [157] Originally by: Logan Williams Does it really matter anyway? Either BoB will win or ASCN will win. At this point, I don't care who, just as long as one of them dies. You don't keep up on current events much do you? BoB will shoot a lot of ASCN, ASCN will use massive amounts of carriers, both will lose to CCP.. Everyone goes home and sulks, BoB brags about how they didn't really want to take territory, just rack up kills, ASCN brags about how they don't care how many they lost, but they still hold the same territory, and everyone is ****ed about the servers. I think this all would be a lot easier if we had a "corporation/alliance news" forum and a "corporation smacktalk/fake promises of your demise" forum.. that way we would only have to read 1
Lightof God Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:01:00 - [158] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Reports are coming in from the field - ASCN have engaged their doomsday device against a BoB fleet. Initial reports state that, unfortunately, the weapon was not fired upon the correct cynosaural field, and subsequently, destroyed many of ASCN's own support. We anxiously await the next.. We are getting a little bit away from that particular statement as of right now. But on the vein of the cyno field titan ganking thing. BoB you are ppl who pvp alot...correction your very existance is defined by pvp, where as ASCN is not. But remember this although your basic BoB foot soldier...correction grunt most likely has more basic pvp knowledge then the ASCN one and might in confidence of winning fit more valuable mods remember this; we are all humans and all humans learn from experience. (I like to think this applies to the majority of eve players because someone will drag something up to prove me wrong) What this means is that due to the fact that this was the first time a superweapon was fired off in a combat situation things did not go as smoothly as they could have. So what you should you should take away from that is that the next time ASCN try a trick like this it will be a bit more coordanited and more well pulled off due to the wealth of knowlegde that ASCN most likely gained from this. Meaning ASCN will get much better at doing this in a hurry get your counter strategys ready. Will edit in morning. oh BTW selling farjungs low slot setup for 300 mil (jk don't have it) :)
Tar Ecthelion Kryomek Industries	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:05:00 - [159] I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading this thread, and all I know is that a big boom went off, and a few ships got popped, and everyone is smacking each other killboards and logging. I think we need some neutral news reporters out on the front line in a War this important, where's the BBC when you need them. ..... "When you kill a man it costs nothing to be polite" Winston Churchill
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:08:00 - [160] Edited by: Ab Initio on 02/10/2006 04:09:20 Gotta love random forum weirdness.

Law Zix ANZAC ALLIANCE Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:12:00 - [161] I think it best I dont us the doomsday device, knowing my history with EMP's ill end up wiping everyones account in EVE. Anyone for noobship warfare tomorrow? Aussie's & Kiwi's join the ANZAC channel
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:21:00 - [162] Originally by: Law Zix I think it best I dont us the doomsday device, knowing my history with EMP's ill end up wiping everyones account in EVE. Anyone for noobship warfare tomorrow? I still miss that Megathron :) hahaha
xXBeatnikXx Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:23:00 - [163] What you need is a dicter sphere and a cyn generator on the same ship... if you can fit both on a dictor you got it made...
BoinKlasik God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:25:00 - [164] Originally by: Tar Ecthelion Edited by: Tar Ecthelion on 02/10/2006 04:08:17 I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading this thread, and all I know is that a big boom went off, and a few ships got popped, and everyone is smacking each other killboards and logging. I think we need some neutral news reporters out on the front line in a War this important, where's ISD Interstellar Correspondants when you need them. getting shot by POS's when they show up apparently(see titan built thread). Its a new weapon, i apparently it doesnt hit a whole grid, even though it has the capabilities of wiping out a planet, it cant hit a whole grid it appears (from what i can hear it didnt hit the BoB main fleet 400or so km away?. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:44:00 - [165] Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 02/10/2006 04:44:42 titans is for noobs. Cyvock stop bragging, the BOB killboard is laughable looking at it. and i checked ASCN's were there was few kills, than my browser crashed when i clicked on your loss mail sections. jees. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
AnA1t Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:55:00 - [166] Cyvok doesnt pvp with that Char, because he knows that it will be primary always. He has more than 3 accounts and alts that are not public info.
Tido Maliyu Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:59:00 - [167] Originally by: AnA1t Cyvok doesnt pvp with that Char, because he knows that it will be primary always. He has more than 3 accounts and alts that are not public info. No sh*t?
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:03:00 - [168] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 02/10/2006 04:46:50 titans is for noobs. Cyvock stop bragging, the BOB killboard is laughable looking at it. and i checked ASCN's were there was few kills, than my browser crashed when i clicked on your loss mail sections. jees. Linkage Completely laughable man! He did more damage to his own people with that Avatar than he did to our people! Anathema / Buzzard / Pilgrim / Omen. Cyvok, will you be paying for their ships and gear? Man, if I was a ASCN pilot and around Cyvok when he's in that Avatar, I'd be a little paranoid; looking at his killboard stats and all. I mean most of his kills are friendly fire! Now I'm starting to understand why that Titan was built in such secrecy; if the ASCN pilots knew whom the titan was for they'd probably not have built it in the first place! hehehe >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
TheTruth1 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:17:00 - [169] The first combat test of the biggest smart bomb in history didnt go as planned i guess lol. ASCN had the resources to build a titan, the balls to announce it, and the resolve to use it, and they still get flamed for killing 1 more ascn ships then BOB. At least ASCN has a way to stop any fleet battle that doesnt go their way. Open a Cyno and half the enemy fleet will warp away, or "crash", depending on who you face. ASCN pilots wont CNRL+Q and if they told everyone on TS to get ready to warp, BOB mysteriously would have known this, and the superweapon probably wouldnt have gotted any kills.
Afonso Henriques Minmatar Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:23:00 - [170] Originally by: TheTruth1 ASCN had the resources to build a titan, the balls to announce it, and the resolve to use it, and they still get flamed for killing 1 more ascn ships then BOB. ASCN also seems to have a lot of players tht can't follow the forum rules and contiunues to post with alts. Hi, this is a no alt section of the forums. Displaying your noob corp tags doesnt cut it.

xXBeatnikXx Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:25:00 - [171] Actually, I think it (doomsday device) is a great defensive weapon -> instead of the hostile fleet getting all the killmails, the ASCN can just insta pop themselves.... But really, it would have works great if we weren't 550km away, and were able to warp most of our ships out before the big boom anyhow. What ASCN screwed up on was not traping us near the cyno field. Instead, they used their own fleet to defend the Cyno Feild ship. Telling you -> sacrifice an interdictor. Use it to deploy both a cyno field and a bubble.
Ashen Brarn Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:31:00 - [172] Originally by: TheTruth1 The first combat test of the biggest smart bomb in history didnt go as planned i guess lol. ASCN had the resources to build a titan, the balls to announce it, and the resolve to use it, and they still get flamed for killing 1 more ascn ships then BOB. At least ASCN has a way to stop any fleet battle that doesnt go their way. Open a Cyno and half the enemy fleet will warp away, or "crash", depending on who you face. ASCN pilots wont CNRL+Q and if they told everyone on TS to get ready to warp, BOB mysteriously would have known this, and the superweapon probably wouldnt have gotted any kills. The truthiness is strong in this one In other news, the african elephant population has tripled over the last 6 months. ---
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:42:00 - [173] GJ Cyvok. Nice fireworks.
Darrx	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:45:00 - [174] Edited by: Darrx on 02/10/2006 05:45:36 -snip-
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:47:00 - [175] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. 37,500 from Judgement, and it's 41,250 with the minimal skills to even run it. Assuming an armor tank with an EANM II, maxed compensation skills, and 10k armor and 5.5k shields, that's all your shields, all your armor, and 2,416 damage to your structure. And that assumes Cyvok has Doomsday Op at the absolute minimum level required to activate the module, and that your armor compensation skill for EM, of all things, is maxed. But, hey, keep thinking whatever you'd like. --P P.S. ffs, let me choose the default character to post with!
cheru nemo nobis impune lacessit SynchronizerZ	Posted - 2006.10.02 05:50:00 - [176] Nice space bulb! Grats to all involved it this "first time". Noob question: So you just have to be in warp or stay out of the grid to avoid damage from the dd device? o.O Kinda disappointing if it's area of effect is not the whole system. ................................................. been there done that
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:05:00 - [177] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 02/10/2006 04:46:50 titans is for noobs. Cyvock stop bragging, the BOB killboard is laughable looking at it. and i checked ASCN's were there was few kills, than my browser crashed when i clicked on your loss mail sections. jees. Linkage oh man and i was thiking that titan is zomg i win button wery impresive kills JOIN cooolest channel in game "wierchas fan club" be cool ^^
Hellcore Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:12:00 - [178] Originally by: cheru Edited by: cheru on 02/10/2006 06:07:26 Noob question: So you just have to be in warp or stay out of the grid to avoid damage from the dd device? o.O Kinda disappointing if it's area of effect is not the whole system. I remember when we encountered a few on the (then) new TQ test cluster. GMs/Devs toyed with us setting off a doomsday device on our fleet a few times. If you were still "landing" or just starting to warp off (I mean actually warping not just the alignment) then you were invulnerable. Also worth noting that a fair number of bs (fleet fitted maybe with 1 plate) survived each blast.
Haffrage Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:25:00 - [179] Edited by: Haffrage on 02/10/2006 06:30:00 Originally by: LICENCE2KILL Edited by: LICENCE2KILL on 02/10/2006 02:14:56 Originally by: CYVOK More BoB were killed then ASCN by a margin of 4 to 1. -CYVOK- Don't think so there buddy Possible wanna re think that one. Killboards say other wise.... Maybe thats just me [center]but I sure didn't see that one. KILLS Bla bla bla. I'd hoped that an ex-ddc such as yourself could think of something that hasn't been pointed out for the past 3 odd pages, but then I remembered who you were =) -----

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skilzrulz	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:50:00 - [181] Sounds like the titan wasn't all it was *****ed up to be. I think CCP needs to put some wrench time into it.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 06:57:00 - [182] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 02/10/2006 06:58:39 Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. 37,500 from Judgement, and it's 41,250 with the minimal skills to even run it. Assuming an armor tank with an EANM II, maxed compensation skills, and 10k armor and 5.5k shields, that's all your shields, all your armor, and 2,416 damage to your structure. And that assumes Cyvok has Doomsday Op at the absolute minimum level required to activate the module, and that your armor compensation skill for EM, of all things, is maxed. But, hey, keep thinking whatever you'd like. --P P.S. ffs, let me choose the default character to post with! Read that other post I made.. With a 1600 RT and a dcu (quite common on most fleet setups nowadays), you will survive even a blast from a Doomsday Device with level 4 skill. Then again, this still leaves you severely crippled. Maybe THIS was CCPs way to reduce gank and increase tank? :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 07:28:00 - [183] This Titan thing does bring new entertainment in fights....thats for sure, beliave me thinking to much might make your head hurt. OMG, this is so ofensive -_-. Dont make me lough Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Dekiri Useless Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.02 07:39:00 - [184] So basically the doomsday weapon can be used with cynos... You could technically set up cynos at all places within a system you wish noone to go to and just wait until they try? Doesn't that make it almost impossible to siege a pos then? Sounds to me like a lot of fun is going to be had by CYVOK with that toy in the near future. Wonder if fleets for pos defence will just be 1 or 2 titans and a load of cov ops and dictors. -------------- My dad can beat up your dad! Support lowsec!
CynoLove	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:01:00 - [185] You can use the doomsdayweapon only 1 time every hour and it is not powerfull enough to kill capital ships like dreads with it. So you need more support than only a titan to defend a pos good enough.
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:25:00 - [186] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. That may be, truth is truth, but the fact that your BoB mates are smacking the boards 5x the amount ascn does is also a disgrace. I for one liked BoB for tha military power it is and with military comes discipline and order. Seems you all just love taking the flame bait and chewing on it anf thus ruining the forums. Nobody can get an accurate history of the fleetbattles and the war in general. my sig sucks
Oberkorn x13 Barracudas.	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:36:00 - [187] Damn does this mean that -CYVOK- comes prematurely. _____________________________________ Got nothing to loose let's dance
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:44:00 - [188] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Xeoz Since everyone asked and no one has posted... Screenshot: Doomsday Explosion A half second later the screen was a complete white out. That is an impressive sight to be sure. I wonder why it didnt catch those ships above it? My understanding was that it caught all ships in the grid. hmm yea was wondering the same , than again grid is just 500km isnt it? altough i could see whole fleet when doomsday was active... Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:49:00 - [189] Originally by: Rina Shanu Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. That may be, truth is truth, but the fact that your BoB mates are smacking the boards 5x the amount ascn does is also a disgrace. I for one liked BoB for tha military power it is and with military comes discipline and order. Seems you all just love taking the flame bait and chewing on it anf thus ruining the forums. Nobody can get an accurate history of the fleetbattles and the war in general. I for one know that my respect for BoB has dropped quite alot. I used to actually think that they were O.K. But now its different. They smacktalk. They lie about events and kills. They come with stupid offers ... And they're really not THAT skilled :) IMO AAA and RA was a bigger challenge (Dont put too much into it guys ;) u're still annoying :D) But its fun so far, it was starting to get boring anyways.
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:56:00 - [190] Originally by: Rina Shanu Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. That may be, truth is truth, but the fact that your BoB mates are smacking the boards 5x the amount ascn does is also a disgrace. I for one liked BoB for tha military power it is and with military comes discipline and order. Seems you all just love taking the flame bait and chewing on it anf thus ruining the forums. Nobody can get an accurate history of the fleetbattles and the war in general. Well of course we are, we take great pride in our abilities and achievments so when some retarded little child comes on to the forums and starts bleeting that we logged off en masse to avoid the doomsday weapon it's highly likely to get us all riled up, hence the outburst of smack. The total **** that has been posted by ASCN members on various forums is a disgrace, their misinformation is worse than the PA's ever was so there's no wonder our guys 'n gals are venting.

Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:01:00 - [191] Edited by: Nafri on 02/10/2006 09:01:29 alasse, you wont want to tell me that BoB arent the biggest smacktalkers? Especially since you merged with ATUK? From Dusk till Dawn
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:06:00 - [192] Sure, we have our share of smack talkers as does every alliance, but if ASCN weren't providing all the fuel there wouldn't be any where near as much. We came down hoping to start a war that could be enjoyed by both sides, unfortunately ASCN's behaviour and ludcrious statements have only served to fuel the ill feeling and vitriol displayed here.
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:12:00 - [193] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Sure, we have our share of smack talkers as does every alliance, but if ASCN weren't providing all the fuel there wouldn't be any where near as much. We came down hoping to start a war that could be enjoyed by both sides, unfortunately ASCN's behaviour and ludcrious statements have only served to fuel the ill feeling and vitriol displayed here. You guys dont need fuel for it, you know it, I know it. Isnt smacking on the forums one reason to join BoB? Cheapest way to increase your epeen by 356% From Dusk till Dawn
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:16:00 - [194] Originally by: NeoTech I for one know that my respect for BoB has dropped quite alot. I used to actually think that they were O.K. But now its different. They smacktalk. They lie about events and kills. They come with stupid offers ... And they're really not THAT skilled :) IMO AAA and RA was a bigger challenge (Dont put too much into it guys ;) u're still annoying :D) But its fun so far, it was starting to get boring anyways. All pretty normal reactions to a big war starting to be honest, especially when we're the aggressors. It's nice to see some proper entertainment on the forums though. Eve Blacklight Style
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:16:00 - [195] I think BoB got lucky. The Device didnt effect there 20+ man fleet sat 400km frim the cyno, and it should of done. The kb make interesting reading though, ouch. UL Cyvok, but will be interesting to watch that thing fired more often as time goes on. KIA EVE Home
NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:21:00 - [196] Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 02/10/2006 09:17:19 Originally by: NeoTech I for one know that my respect for BoB has dropped quite alot. I used to actually think that they were O.K. But now its different. They smacktalk. They lie about events and kills. They come with stupid offers ... And they're really not THAT skilled :) IMO AAA and RA was a bigger challenge (Dont put too much into it guys ;) u're still annoying :D) But its fun so far, it was starting to get boring anyways. All pretty normal reactions to a big war starting to be honest, especially when we're the aggressors. It's nice to see some proper entertainment on the forums though. Having said that there's some retardness in some of the forum posting which needs controlling by both sides, especially killboard and K/L ratio discussions Awesome Reply, Seriously Is.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:32:00 - [197] Originally by: KIAEddZ I think BoB got lucky. The Device didnt effect there 20+ man fleet sat 400km frim the cyno, and it should of done. The kb make interesting reading though, ouch. UL Cyvok, but will be interesting to watch that thing fired more often as time goes on. qft - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:33:00 - [198] Originally by: NeoTech sorry, but who actually starts all these threads? + gives out wrong information on the forums? Please! :) No offense intended, so dont smack. But seriously... Where did we give out this 'false information'? Lets take a look at the facts, CYVOK has posted three BoB kills and four ASCN kills on your own killboard and funnily enough there are three losses posted on the BoB killboard too. Now seeing as BoB members don't get replacement ships unless they post their losses I'd hazzard a guess at this being fairly accurate, given that the person flying the Titan has confirmed it on your own board too.
Futher Bezluden Minmatar Red Dwarf Mining Corps Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:46:00 - [199] ASCN: or how I learned to stop worry and love the bomb Looking forward to the EVE Slideshow of the Boom. Someone is getting the "Slim Pickins" award for riding that bomb to target. Congrats on the Titan and the Doomsday test. THUKKER
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:46:00 - [200] Edited by: welsh wizard on 02/10/2006 09:51:08 Perhaps the missing killmails were from abandoned noob ships and shuttles in space nearby? Still doesn't explain why the killmails couldn't be read though. N1 for firing it, evident to me that capital ships suck and you'd be far better off in a well equipped BS if you want to cause some damage though. Ban cap ships and poses, make Eve good again!

Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:50:00 - [201] the one sad thing about it: you fired a doomsday device and got no fraps? (ok i just read the first 3 pages of flames maybe there is some fraps deeper down the chimney) Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
Andreas Kallesoee Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:13:00 - [202] Oh great and all powerfull GOD CYVOK please dont pass judgement on me!!! I will forever be faithfull to your creed and laws /me burns to cinders as GOD CYVOK passes judgement on me for being in the eve-o forums
NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:13:00 - [203] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: NeoTech sorry, but who actually starts all these threads? + gives out wrong information on the forums? Please! :) No offense intended, so dont smack. But seriously... Where did we give out this 'false information'? Lets take a look at the facts, CYVOK has posted three BoB kills and four ASCN kills on your own killboard and funnily enough there are three losses posted on the BoB killboard too. Now seeing as BoB members don't get replacement ships unless they post their losses I'd hazzard a guess at this being fairly accurate, given that the person flying the Titan has confirmed it on your own board too. Indeed. But it wasn't the wrong cyno, and CYVOK didn't attack our fleet... The only reason why so few BoB died was because the weapon didn't affect ur main fleet 400km away, now if it did actually range the 500km promised, u would be dead. So saying that we attacked our own fleet is wrong...
ArchenTheGreat Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:20:00 - [204] Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz Looks like there a time for ASCN to build another Titan.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:25:00 - [205] Originally by: NeoTech Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: NeoTech sorry, but who actually starts all these threads? + gives out wrong information on the forums? Please! :) No offense intended, so dont smack. But seriously... Where did we give out this 'false information'? Lets take a look at the facts, CYVOK has posted three BoB kills and four ASCN kills on your own killboard and funnily enough there are three losses posted on the BoB killboard too. Now seeing as BoB members don't get replacement ships unless they post their losses I'd hazzard a guess at this being fairly accurate, given that the person flying the Titan has confirmed it on your own board too. Indeed. But it wasn't the wrong cyno, and CYVOK didn't attack our fleet... The only reason why so few BoB died was because the weapon didn't affect ur main fleet 400km away, now if it did actually range the 500km promised, u would be dead. So saying that we attacked our own fleet is wrong... Just an idea, might it be 500km diametre in stead of 500km radius? thus maybe the effective radius is only 250k? Which happens to be max locking range... :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Father Calistas ANZAC ALLIANCE Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:33:00 - [206] Ouch, good point Waagh. As for lies and misstruths, some ASCN nobend flammed that BOB jumped away. I've not heard it and Cyvok denies it too. Follow on from BOB warriors, a lot of gnashing teeth and wailing over one guy's sillyness. Lets move on! It's been a fun fight so far and the ones I've been in were very interesting with some good (and bad) tactics all round. Hope you'll be coming back on the weekend for another round :)
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:43:00 - [207] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Just an idea, might it be 500km diametre in stead of 500km radius? thus maybe the effective radius is only 250k? Which happens to be max locking range... :) In all other weapons of this sort (area effect weapons such as smartbombs) the area of effect is the radius from point of inception, if it has indeed been changed to be the diameter of area of effect, then CCP should let us know. Maybe someone (that cares more than I do) ask the devs on the ships and modules forum... KIA EVE Home
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:58:00 - [208] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Just an idea, might it be 500km diametre in stead of 500km radius? thus maybe the effective radius is only 250k? Which happens to be max locking range... :) In all other weapons of this sort (area effect weapons such as smartbombs) the area of effect is the radius from point of inception, if it has indeed been changed to be the diameter of area of effect, then CCP should let us know. Maybe someone (that cares more than I do) ask the devs on the ships and modules forum... Eddz, chances are pretty good that most of the Devs are asking the same question. The one guy that knows (who coded it) is probably passed out from a late Sunday night party and won't be in for a couple days... - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:06:00 - [209] So, mechanics of doomsday device is bugged? Yay! What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:06:00 - [210] Originally by: NeoTech Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: NeoTech sorry, but who actually starts all these threads? + gives out wrong information on the forums? Please! :) No offense intended, so dont smack. But seriously... Where did we give out this 'false information'? Lets take a look at the facts, CYVOK has posted three BoB kills and four ASCN kills on your own killboard and funnily enough there are three losses posted on the BoB killboard too. Now seeing as BoB members don't get replacement ships unless they post their losses I'd hazzard a guess at this being fairly accurate, given that the person flying the Titan has confirmed it on your own board too. Indeed. But it wasn't the wrong cyno, and CYVOK didn't attack our fleet... The only reason why so few BoB died was because the weapon didn't affect ur main fleet 400km away, now if it did actually range the 500km promised, u would be dead. So saying that we attacked our own fleet is wrong... Our fleet was actually 530+km from the cyno itself according to those there (i had to crash ofc ) So if infact the range is only 500km and not grid then that would explain why our fleet survived. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon

Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:09:00 - [211] Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 02/10/2006 11:13:33 Regarding wether the correct cyno was fired upon, I would retract the statement, if it wasn't for the fact that every other argument presented by ASCN fleet members / leaders has been proven a lie. However, much respect to CYVOK for admitting his mistake. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:11:00 - [212] Another BoB post. Can they please stop spamming the forums with war propaganda? GO ASCN! puts tinfoil hat on ---- My Movies Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
ArchenTheGreat Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:11:00 - [213] Originally by: KIAEddZ In all other weapons of this sort (area effect weapons such as smartbombs) the area of effect is the radius from point of inception, if it has indeed been changed to be the diameter of area of effect, then CCP should let us know. Maybe someone (that cares more than I do) ask the devs on the ships and modules forum... Here we see an example of BAD Eve documentation. There are many things which go undocumented (1AU range of probes anyone) and it's hard to tell if this is bug or not. The only way to do is to file a petition (only to get contradicting answers from GM's). Instead of whining about long petition queue CCP should put more effort into documenting stuff. Decent item descriptions is a good start.
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:13:00 - [214] WOW .. Congratulations to ASCN for actually bring the Titan to combat. I see that the 1st strike wasnt very effective, wich we can expect I guess. Still skills to be trained and most important, find the right way to use it with the biggest efficiency possible. I think that next time results will be better. Do we have any fraps ?
Crohnx Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:15:00 - [215] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 02/10/2006 11:13:33 Regarding wether the correct cyno was fired upon, I would retract the statement, if it wasn't for the fact that every other argument presented by ASCN fleet members / leaders has been proven a lie. However, much respect to CYVOK for admitting his mistake. u're full of it. doomday was activated to 1 and only cyno there , fact is id didnt touch BOB fleet in grid , so range of doomsday is not what ccp or who ever stated that is 1 grid...
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:16:00 - [216] Originally by: Xoria Krint Another BoB post. Can they please stop spamming the forums with war propaganda? GO ASCN! puts tinfoil hat on errr no ? These forums are for war propogandas, and if it wasnt for those this forums section would be dead or full of noobs going "omg help me setup my corp" or "how do i kick someone" If you dont want to follow our war with ASCN i would suggest staying out of threads regarding that and your problem is solved. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Marvel Master Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:23:00 - [217] How long did it need to activate the doomsday device? You send it through a cyno field. Can an enemy see a counter? Or how much seconds need the device to reach the battle field? Marvel
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:27:00 - [218] WTF do BOB have to turn every post into a slagging match? Rox your a stirring **** mate pack it in. Rest of BOB i have alot of great mates in BOB from days when i played Mankind, but why do you always lower yourself to scum sucking levels? honestly everyone knows you are good pvpers, cant argue there but wtf do you always blow yourselves off? I have sat back reading the posts that you always make and its always over the same thing "my thingy is bigger than your thingy". The amount of respect i have for BOB is huge for what you have achieved but day in day out you make yourselves look stupid. Can you not fight fair with honour on the forums as most of you do ingame??? Any more ASCN pilots refrain from posting this sucks to be honest dont lower yourself to Bob's current level. And as for the rest of the bandwagon warriors STFU and leave this to the big boys ASCN n BOB. Make yourself look like you have a big thingy somewhere else. Bret ------------------------------------------------ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying."
nirana Amarr Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:31:00 - [219] Originally by: Crohnx Edited by: Crohnx on 01/10/2006 22:52:50 hmm we'll see what kb says... It says alot, old friend. Maybe a bit more then u would like. Since u cant even defend the heart of your alliance with carriers and a titan, and achieve a positiv kill ratio.
SosaGT Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:31:00 - [220] Lmfao.... ______________________________ Bite me

TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:33:00 - [221] Lots of speculation about the doomsday device. The description of the doomsday device says 15 seconds delay, if there is any skill that reduces that time, I don't know.. but once the doomsday device is activated that is the time you have to leave. From what I heard, the BoB gang was out of warp in the grid before the doomsday device was activated. This gives room for the possibility that the BoB gang warped out before receiving damage. The simple question is - was the BoB gang in the grid when those 7 ASCN and BoB ships went pop?
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:36:00 - [222] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Just an idea, might it be 500km diametre in stead of 500km radius? thus maybe the effective radius is only 250k? Which happens to be max locking range... :) I'm thinking this is almost certainly correct. Originally by: Endeva celestial gheypocalipse go away from this forum.noone cares what retards thinks
HolographicEntrypoint The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:41:00 - [223] I am sure BoB would have hit the ASCN fleet if they fired a DD. --- ^ Custom Sigs for ISK My custom Sigs Gallery
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:42:00 - [224] Originally by: KIAEddZ TWD The piccy of the Doomsday Device being fired shows the bob Fleet sat 400km from the piccy taker, you can only assume hat the piccy taker was sat next to the cyno, as there are no ships sat away from it... (not sure on that one, too tired to think straight this morning) Thus my dear Watson assuming my confiuddled brain is getting this right), it looks to me that the bob fleet were about 400km from the Cyno, and were unharmed by the Doomsday device firing...... The effects start when its activated. The delay until the actual damage is 15 seconds (or less if its affected by a skill)
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:45:00 - [225] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Xoria Krint Another BoB post. Can they please stop spamming the forums with war propaganda? GO ASCN! puts tinfoil hat on errr no ? These forums are for war propogandas, and if it wasnt for those this forums section would be dead or full of noobs going "omg help me setup my corp" or "how do i kick someone" If you dont want to follow our war with ASCN i would suggest staying out of threads regarding that and your problem is solved. This forum should have limited bob members tbh. You are just spamming all the posts and ruin the whole forum imo. ---- My Movies Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Seth Quantix	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:47:00 - [226] Originally by: Xoria Krint Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Xoria Krint Another BoB post. Can they please stop spamming the forums with war propaganda? GO ASCN! puts tinfoil hat on errr no ? These forums are for war propogandas, and if it wasnt for those this forums section would be dead or full of noobs going "omg help me setup my corp" or "how do i kick someone" If you dont want to follow our war with ASCN i would suggest staying out of threads regarding that and your problem is solved. This forum should have limited bob members tbh. You are just spamming all the posts and ruin the whole forum imo. When we want your oppinion we will give you it!
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:57:00 - [227] Originally by: TWD Originally by: KIAEddZ TWD The piccy of the Doomsday Device being fired shows the bob Fleet sat 400km from the piccy taker, you can only assume hat the piccy taker was sat next to the cyno, as there are no ships sat away from it... (not sure on that one, too tired to think straight this morning) Thus my dear Watson assuming my confiuddled brain is getting this right), it looks to me that the bob fleet were about 400km from the Cyno, and were unharmed by the Doomsday device firing...... The effects start when its activated. The delay until the actual damage is 15 seconds (or less if its affected by a skill) I see So its a totally useless weapon then, only killing AFKers. Nice. Well played CCP. KIA EVE Home
Lurks Amarr Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:00:00 - [228] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Law Zix I think it best I dont us the doomsday device, knowing my history with EMP's ill end up wiping everyones account in EVE. Anyone for noobship warfare tomorrow? I still miss that Megathron :) hahaha Screw your Megathron, I miss my poor defenseless drone :
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:05:00 - [229] Titan questions to satisfy my curioisity: [list=] Titans can only fit race-specific doomsday devices? Or all of them? They only appear to cover 250km radius, not 500km as advertised. They may have issues with ships off-grid. When detonating at a remote cyno, the recon ship doesn't have to hang about before detonation (can drop cyno and leave). But obviously, neither does the enemy fleet. [/list=] What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:06:00 - [230] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Titan questions to satisfy my curioisity: When detonating at a remote cyno, the recon ship doesn't have to hang about before detonation (can drop cyno and leave). But obviously, neither does the enemy fleet. mhm.. when u cyno ur stuck (unless that has changed lately) >: )

TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:14:00 - [231] Originally by: FireFoxx80 They only appear to cover 250km radius, not 500km as advertised. Where are people getting this 250km or 500km radius from?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:15:00 - [232] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: TWD The effects start when its activated. The delay until the actual damage is 15 seconds (or less if its affected by a skill) I see So its a totally useless weapon then, only killing AFKers. Nice. Well played CCP. That's odd. When I've seen test firings, both at FF last year and on SiSi, it seems to go off fairly quickly. Bah, **** poor documentation 4TL. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:15:00 - [233] Wait, you can "send" the payload from the dooms day device through a cynofield? That is both disturbing and really cool at the same time. My complete lack of capital skills may account for my lack of knowledge in this area but the last time I saw one it was like a smart bomb of the ship... Oh oh, how many times can you fire it? RoF? Cheers, Lowa ps. who cares about K/D, it was used, live and direct! What if the truth was something else?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:16:00 - [234] Originally by: Lowa Wait, you can "send" the payload from the dooms day device through a cynofield? Yes. Quote: My complete lack of capital skills may account for my lack of knowledge in this area but the last time I saw one it was like a smart bomb of the ship... It can function as that as well. Quote: Oh oh, how many times can you fire it? RoF? Once per hour, I believe. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:24:00 - [235] Originally by: Seleene Quote: Oh oh, how many times can you fire it? RoF? Once per hour, I believe. And with 3 damage mods? Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:36:00 - [236] Originally by: Seleene That's odd. When I've seen test firings, both at FF last year and on SiSi, it seems to go off fairly quickly. Bah, **** poor documentation 4TL. yes but tranquility in it's current State seems very sick, this could be part of it? The Device That was fired Really hope CCP can fix fleet battles though they are really no good at thier current state unless you are 40vs40 anything bigger is lag feast. _________________________________________________________ My First EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Coahim Madden eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:45:00 - [237] Edited by: Coahim Madden on 02/10/2006 12:46:30 If you train up gallente titan I, can you then use the aurora ominae on a Avatar? edit: Nevermind, avatar only gets cpu reduction for the Judgement module. ------- Theres 2 kinds of people in the world. 1. Those that need closure
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:46:00 - [238] So is this whole doomsday thread to cover up the fact that bob got owned in a fleet battle last night?
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:47:00 - [239] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 So is this whole doomsday thread to cover up the fact that bob got owned in a fleet battle last night? Yes. thinking to much might make your head hurt. OMG, this is so ofensive -_-. Dont make me lough Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:57:00 - [240] Edited by: Mad Scientist101 on 02/10/2006 12:57:39 Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 12:48:03 Originally by: Mad Scientist101 So is this whole doomsday thread to cover up the fact that bob got owned in a fleet battle last night? Yes. Not smilie FACT. Next? So you did get owned in a fleet batlle last night in AZN, thanks for the info.

Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:58:00 - [241] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 12:48:03 Originally by: Mad Scientist101 So is this whole doomsday thread to cover up the fact that bob got owned in a fleet battle last night? Yes. Not smilie FACT. Next? So you did get owned ina fleet batlle last night in AZN, thanks for the info. Your wellcome. thinking to much might make your head hurt. OMG, this is so ofensive -_-. Dont make me lough Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:59:00 - [242] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 01/10/2006 23:26:19 Originally by: CYVOK Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Rexy Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Judgement cannot kill most fleet setup Battleships. 32k EM damage is not enough. i concur, we were promised more ownage, boost plz 48k with level 5 skill... getting better. :) Actually with lvl 4 the damage is 52,400. -CYVOK- Yeah, base damage is 37.5k, I don't know where I got the 32k from. Well, that's not too shabby then. A raven with level 4 hullupgrades and shield management has the following amount of HP vs EM if it fits a dcu.. shields: 7783 (6000 w/ 20% from shield man and +7.5% from dcu) armor: 17708 (6375 after hull upg 4, 64% resist w/ dcu) struct: doesn't show in item database online and can't access game. still, that's 25.4k HP on armor/shields which means you need 13.5k+ struct to survive this. That's actually a pretty neat weapon! :) Although if you add a 1600mm RT on the ship, it's survivability (esp vs a judgement) goes up by a lot. PS. I chose the raven because it's the ship with the most shields and the least armor, the ship the judgement should be " best " against. This choice was purely arbitrary and thus conclusions should be taken with a grain of salt. Can be said though, that if you take measures, a BS can survive one, but basically doesn't have a good chance of surviving two of these fired in tandem. :) You know what though? Whats gunna happen is, ASCN builds Titan number 2, they setup X hostile fleet on two Friendly Cynos. They Fire two in tandem. Fleet explodes. Node Crashes. 10 minutes later, node comes back up. Everything is where it was 5 minutes before the detonation. Cyvok and the other titan pilot re-setup on the same friendly Cynos. The node crashes. GM's skulls cave in. Universe implodes. Isn't really that the point of the superweapon? :D _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:06:00 - [243] Originally by: KIAEddZ The piccy of the Doomsday Device being fired shows the bob Fleet sat 400km from the piccy taker, you can only assume hat the piccy taker was sat next to the cyno, as there are no ships sat away from it... (not sure on that one, too tired to think straight this morning) Thus my dear Watson assuming my confiuddled brain is getting this right), it looks to me that the bob fleet were about 400km from the Cyno, and were unharmed by the Doomsday device firing...... Eddz, again, we were 530-560 away from cyno, NOT 400. If we were on the very edge of the same grid, it might have affected on that, cause i still believe its affecting on whole grid. Altho, this makes one think that it could have radius of 500km. The horror of not knowing for sure! -- Nobody stays behind
Slender Brenda Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:10:00 - [244] Change titan description: Unability for enemy to pre-load grid, 500km / lvl. Next page in cyvok's blog about their best friend.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:13:00 - [245] Originally by: Rift Scorn you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Hardly. To do that you need to take their stations. Cyvok popping a couple of his own covert ops while playing around with his Titan is hardly going to bring ASCN crashing to its knees. All I can see so far is a PvP alliance getting a better kill/loss ratio than a mainly Industrial one. This is frankly to be expected, anyone here would be shocked to hear otherwise. You know as well as I do that you are FAR from 'taking ASCN apart'. You have a long, bloody battle ahead in which you will have to deploy your dreads, seige POS, and play station ping-pong. With ASCN imminently able to kill off pretty much instapop any dread you dare to deploy with massive fighter swarms, I really can't see why you are in a boasting mood. You have fought a few skirmishes, achieved the EXPECTED results, and now you claim they are falling apart? Pure comedy gold. Get out the dreads, take a few station, then start telling us that. Until then, do us all a favour and cut the crap.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:17:00 - [246] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: TWD Originally by: KIAEddZ TWD The piccy of the Doomsday Device being fired shows the bob Fleet sat 400km from the piccy taker, you can only assume hat the piccy taker was sat next to the cyno, as there are no ships sat away from it... (not sure on that one, too tired to think straight this morning) Thus my dear Watson assuming my confiuddled brain is getting this right), it looks to me that the bob fleet were about 400km from the Cyno, and were unharmed by the Doomsday device firing...... The effects start when its activated. The delay until the actual damage is 15 seconds (or less if its affected by a skill) I see So its a totally useless weapon then, only killing AFKers. Nice. Well played CCP. Interdictors?
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:19:00 - [247] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rift Scorn you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Hardly. To do that you need to take their stations. Cyvok popping a couple of his own covert ops while playing around with his Titan is hardly going to bring ASCN crashing to its knees. All I can see so far is a PvP alliance getting a better kill/loss ratio than a mainly Industrial one. This is frankly to be expected, anyone here would be shocked to hear otherwise. You know as well as I do that you are FAR from 'taking ASCN apart'. You have a long, bloody battle ahead in which you will have to deploy your dreads, seige POS, and play station ping-pong. With ASCN imminently able to kill off pretty much instapop any dread you dare to deploy with massive fighter swarms, I really can't see why you are in a boasting mood. You have fought a few skirmishes, achieved the EXPECTED results, and now you claim they are falling apart? Pure comedy gold. Get out the dreads, take a few station, then start telling us that. Until then, do us all a favour and cut the crap. Well said that man.
Zeus Amarr Evolution	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:21:00 - [248] I've been reading he early pages concerning how well cyvok pushed the red button. lots of acsn say 11 and stuff like 4-1 kill ratio. So i went in search of the facts on the ascn killboard it self and as of this post I see 7 kills posted by cyvok..... 7 Bob 2 bob ceptors 1 cruiser ascn 2 cov ops 1 pilgrim 1 cruiser Urm excuse me but my math is alittle rusty thats not 11 and not 4:1 I think? were did 11 and 4:1 come from? =/ I'm confused help me please
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:24:00 - [249] maybe you should read the whole thread before embarssing yourself.
Zeus Amarr Evolution	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:27:00 - [250] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 maybe you should read the whole thread before embarssing yourself. thanks for the tip but I used the ascn killboard as a guide not the bob one. So the last 1000234234 pages of arguments about bob killboards been "hax0rd" is mute ...

Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:33:00 - [251] Originally by: Zeus Originally by: Mad Scientist101 maybe you should read the whole thread before embarssing yourself. thanks for the tip but I used the ascn killboard as a guide not the bob one. So the last 1000234234 pages of arguments about bob killboards been "hax0rd" is mute ... He was suggesting that because it had already been explained on here by Cyvok himself. I don't believe he asked you to look at either killboard...and although I might've missed it, I don't think many people have been discussing bob having a "haxord" killboard more then they have been discussing the merits of the first recorded use of a Titan in battle, and of a DD device. Honestly I'm surprised that BoB is so active in this flame war, shouldn't you be thanking Cyvok for making all the mistakes & discovering all the operations of a Titan so that when yours is completed you'll know what pitfalls to avoid?
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:41:00 - [252] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Yap Yap Yap If BoB had a Titan for every fanboi Butter Dog that has popped up and made his insignificant "assessments" throughout the existance of our alliance we'd have the power to instanuke the entire universe by now. Unfortunately, instead we are left on a world strangely devoid of kittens. Think of the kittens BD, don't post. .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
s1mon4 Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:42:00 - [253] I think is great that ASCN is using this new toy, who cares if they kill just 4 support ship, they have the same few info about how this weapon works as BOB. DonÆt worry guys they will use the weapon again and IÆm sure it will be fun. It is just a game ffs... Sig removed, please keep it below 24000 bytes, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Hey You Amarr Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:47:00 - [254] im not sure how can you call using toy one firing trough cyno field... when they get their toy out of pos and into battlefield and then fire their weapon respect to them untill then... well...
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:47:00 - [255] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: Rina Shanu Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. That may be, truth is truth, but the fact that your BoB mates are smacking the boards 5x the amount ascn does is also a disgrace. I for one liked BoB for tha military power it is and with military comes discipline and order. Seems you all just love taking the flame bait and chewing on it anf thus ruining the forums. Nobody can get an accurate history of the fleetbattles and the war in general. Well of course we are, we take great pride in our abilities and achievments so when some retarded little child comes on to the forums and starts bleeting that we logged off en masse to avoid the doomsday weapon it's highly likely to get us all riled up, hence the outburst of smack. Uh oh, somebody needs a break... and a hug maybe... kryztal do ur job! -------------------------------- Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game!
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:48:00 - [256] Edited by: Butter Dog on 02/10/2006 13:49:11 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Yap Yap Yap If BoB had a Titan for every fanboi Butter Dog that has popped up and made his insignificant "assessments" throughout the existance of our alliance we'd have the power to instanuke the entire universe by now. Unfortunately, instead we are left on a world strangely devoid of kittens. Think of the kittens BD, don't post. Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. My points that I made to rift stand. They are intelligent and reasoned, you are welcome to debate them in an equally reasoned way if you are capable, or are you going to tell me something else about some kittens? I'm sorry if I can see through your little charade and point out a few basic facts like 'you are not tearing ASCN apart, you are achieving expected kill/loss and you have not taken a single station'. I'm sorry if it takes the shine of your ridiculous egos, but frankly everyone here can see what this is really about. Those are the facts, whether you like it or not. Everyone who isnt BoB and is reading this thread can clearly see that, but by all means go on pretending you are uber by winning a few fleet engagements against some Industrialists. The rest of us can just roll our eyes, offer a few insincere 'yes, well done' type comments, and wait in eager anticipation for you to actually bring your dreads out to play and lose them all. We're waiting... Tick tock.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:50:00 - [257] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. My points that I made to rift stand. They are intelligent and reasoned, you are welcome to debate them in an equally reasoned way if you are capable, or are you going to tell me something else about some kittens? I'm sorry if I can see through your little charade and point out a few basic facts like 'you are not tearing ASCN apart, you are achieving expected kill/loss and you have not taken a single station'. I'm sorry if it takes the shine of your ridiculous egos, but frankly everyone here can see what this is really about. Those are the facts, whether you like it or not. Everyone who isnt BoB and is reading this thread can clearly see that, but by all means go on pretending you are uber by winning a few fleet engagements against some Industrialists. The rest of us can just roll our eyes, offer a few insincere 'yes, well done' type comments, and wait in eager anticipation for you do actually bring your dreads out to play and lose them all. Tick tock. You have a remarkably limited view of strategy when it comes to alliance warfare if you think it's all about dreads and stations. Eve Blacklight Style
Hey You Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:56:00 - [258] Originally by: Blacklight You have a remarkably limited view of strategy when it comes to alliance warfare if you think it's all about dreads and stations. /signed To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's cocain
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:01:00 - [259] Blacklight, whilst I agree with your curt sumation, his points have some merit and value. Whilst huge kill / loss ratios in your favour and denyning them access to every day life amenities, may well break thier spirits and morale (KIA understand how to beat entities in this game), it will be nothing more than a temporary measure, without the destruction of the fabrication and infrastrcuture that makes up their conglomerate (a social one built up on a common goal and sense of achievement) and with the ongoing carrot of gettin to attack your cap fleet (of which they are very confident of destroying) dangling in front of their members, you will win nothing without taking their stations and downing thier pos. You know that, and no amount of forum smack or otherwise is going to change the real game of this war. JUST for the record, KIA are 100% neutral in this conflict thus far, we are still taking a decision, so this post is in no way aimed at anything more than giving my honest opinion (after reading 11 pages of basically war propoganda) of whats being said. The nubs of this game may be fooled by the old forum war tacic, of which BoB are masters, but the people that are important in this conflict, will know the reality. Awful lot of chest beating from both sides, and I dont see any real advancement from either. Early yet I guess, still touching each other up and staring into each others eyes, no real fumbling has begun yet ;) So roll on the awkward fumbling, I wander who will be the one to shoot their loads early. ;o) KIA EVE Home
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:02:00 - [260] Originally by: Hey You im not sure how can you call using toy one firing trough cyno field... when they get their toy out of pos and into battlefield and then fire their weapon respect to them untill then... well... yeh right... i would call them total idiots for bringing a ship into an enemy fleet that costs about 70 bils isk and tanks worse then a dread. my oh my... -------------------------------- Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game!

Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:04:00 - [261] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. . Maybe it got something to do with petition? Like the line in my sig? thinking to much might make your head hurt. OMG, this is so ofensive -_-. Dont make me lough Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Juan Andalusian TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:07:00 - [262] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 02/10/2006 13:49:11 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Yap Yap Yap If BoB had a Titan for every fanboi Butter Dog that has popped up and made his insignificant "assessments" throughout the existance of our alliance we'd have the power to instanuke the entire universe by now. Unfortunately, instead we are left on a world strangely devoid of kittens. Think of the kittens BD, don't post. Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. My points that I made to rift stand. They are intelligent and reasoned, you are welcome to debate them in an equally reasoned way if you are capable, or are you going to tell me something else about some kittens? I'm sorry if I can see through your little charade and point out a few basic facts like 'you are not tearing ASCN apart, you are achieving expected kill/loss and you have not taken a single station'. I'm sorry if it takes the shine of your ridiculous egos, but frankly everyone here can see what this is really about. Those are the facts, whether you like it or not. Everyone who isnt BoB and is reading this thread can clearly see that, but by all means go on pretending you are uber by winning a few fleet engagements against some Industrialists. The rest of us can just roll our eyes, offer a few insincere 'yes, well done' type comments, and wait in eager anticipation for you to actually bring your dreads out to play and lose them all. We're waiting... Tick tock. I don't even need to debate your points junior. Presidio, The Cursed, Cheface, Anue + various reincarnations, Mongo Peck and an assortment of others have exhausted the topic of " BoB's Inabilities, Inadequacies and Failures " long before you even heard of eve. Guess where they all are now and how valid their "intelligent and reasonably" argued comments are now. One thing you can do is research the story behind Tick Tock, the line you just so wittily used, it contains all the answers to your case. Pain is meant to be felt
Vito Parabellum Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:10:00 - [263] Geese, what a flamefest, could only make it to page 5 before I ran out of juice. Too bad this historic event is tainted by the expert trolls. Congrats on the first discharge of the ultimate weapon (BFG?) albeit the end result was a bit short of impressive mehehe. Now get a few dozen throwaway frigs with generators and pop cynos all over the battlefield to keep everyone on their toes ;)
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:11:00 - [264] Originally by: Hey You im not sure how can you call using toy one firing trough cyno field... when they get their toy out of pos and into battlefield and then fire their weapon respect to them untill then... well... Um..how many people are using their Titan superweapons outside of the pos? Oh yeah thats right theyre the only ones that have one.... "What happens in Deklien stays in Deklien".
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:11:00 - [265] Originally by: KIAEddZ Whilst huge kill / loss ratios in your favour and denyning them access to every day life amenities, may well break thier spirits and morale (KIA understand how to beat entities in this game), it will be nothing more than a temporary measure, without the destruction of the fabrication and infrastrcuture that makes up their conglomerate (a social one built up on a common goal and sense of achievement) and with the ongoing carrot of gettin to attack your cap fleet (of which they are very confident of destroying) dangling in front of their members, you will win nothing without taking their stations and downing thier pos. Eddz my friend, we've only fought for a few days now - and by the looks of it, this thing is going to last for a long time still. Give it some time - we're only getting started. The Shire will burn. ------------------- -
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:11:00 - [266] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Butter Dog Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. . Maybe it got something to do with petition? Like the line in my sig? Its more to do with the fact I make reasoned, backed-up posts. They are very opnionated, to be sure, but they don't get personal. Many of the BoB posts in my direction were deleted because they contained personal insults. I did not petition any of them, I find it quite funny. Indeed I like you posting them because it makes you look like you have lost the discussion.
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:13:00 - [267] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Butter Dog Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. . Maybe it got something to do with petition? Like the line in my sig? Its more to do with the fact I make reasoned, backed-up posts. They are very opnionated, to be sure, but they don't get personal. Many of the BoB posts in my direction were deleted because they contained personal insults. I did not petition any of them, I find it quite funny. Indeed I like you posting them because it makes you look like you have lost the discussion. Bitter indeed!!!!!
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:14:00 - [268] Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 14:16:33 Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 14:15:11 Originally by: Butter Dog Its more to do with the fact I make reasoned, backed-up posts. They are very opnionated, to be sure, but they don't get personal. Hmm...nope? Only reason is that no one didnt send any reply to moderators regarding you. If you read back your posts in more then several thread with different subjects....all your posting is on same subject. I dont call that subject based and reasoned posts Bitter little Dog Unfortunalty, in RL one can turn head and walk away....on forum, unfortunalty, there isnt block option as in game thinking to much might make your head hurt. OMG, this is so ofensive -_-. Dont make me lough Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:16:00 - [269] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 02/10/2006 13:49:11 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Yap Yap Yap If BoB had a Titan for every fanboi Butter Dog that has popped up and made his insignificant "assessments" throughout the existance of our alliance we'd have the power to instanuke the entire universe by now. Unfortunately, instead we are left on a world strangely devoid of kittens. Think of the kittens BD, don't post. Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. My points that I made to rift stand. They are intelligent and reasoned, you are welcome to debate them in an equally reasoned way if you are capable, or are you going to tell me something else about some kittens? I'm sorry if I can see through your little charade and point out a few basic facts like 'you are not tearing ASCN apart, you are achieving expected kill/loss and you have not taken a single station'. I'm sorry if it takes the shine of your ridiculous egos, but frankly everyone here can see what this is really about. Those are the facts, whether you like it or not. Everyone who isnt BoB and is reading this thread can clearly see that, but by all means go on pretending you are uber by winning a few fleet engagements against some Industrialists. The rest of us can just roll our eyes, offer a few insincere 'yes, well done' type comments, and wait in eager anticipation for you to actually bring your dreads out to play and lose them all. We're waiting... Tick tock. I don't even need to debate your points junior. Presidio, The Cursed, Cheface, Anue + various reincarnations, Mongo Peck and an assortment of others have exhausted the topic of " BoB's Inabilities, Inadequacies and Failures " long before you even heard of eve. Guess where they all are now and how valid their "intelligent and reasonably" argued comments are now. One thing you can do is research the story behind Tick Tock, the line you just so wittily used, it contains all the answers to your case. Look, when ASCN actually does start falling apart, when I see Sov changes, when you do anything other than win a few fleet engagements... THEN your alliance will start looking less ridiculous in your ego-driven rants. But right now, at this moment in time, you're not really justified in doing that. Your offer to the local corporations only served to make you look weak, like you are trying to avoid a costly POS war. Understandable, but still... drop the ego-posts because you are far from winning this battle. Who knows, you may do it, but right now you have achieved nothing of any significance.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:17:00 - [270] Originally by: KIAEddZ Blacklight, whilst I agree with your curt sumation, his points have some merit and value. Whilst huge kill / loss ratios in your favour and denyning them access to every day life amenities, may well break thier spirits and morale (KIA understand how to beat entities in this game), it will be nothing more than a temporary measure, without the destruction of the fabrication and infrastrcuture that makes up their conglomerate (a social one built up on a common goal and sense of achievement) and with the ongoing carrot of gettin to attack your cap fleet (of which they are very confident of destroying) dangling in front of their members, you will win nothing without taking their stations and downing thier pos. You know that, and no amount of forum smack or otherwise is going to change the real game of this war. JUST for the record, KIA are 100% neutral in this conflict thus far, we are still taking a decision, so this post is in no way aimed at anything more than giving my honest opinion (after reading 11 pages of basically war propoganda) of whats being said. The nubs of this game may be fooled by the old forum war tacic, of which BoB are masters, but the people that are important in this conflict, will know the reality. Awful lot of chest beating from both sides, and I dont see any real advancement from either. Early yet I guess, still touching each other up and staring into each others eyes, no real fumbling has begun yet ;) So roll on the awkward fumbling, I wander who will be the one to shoot their loads early. ;o) All true and yet all the comments and debate by people as yet uninvolved in this little scuffle are nothing more than speculation and conjecture. What lots of people seem to have missed is the fact that we have announced nothing other than the fact that "As of today, the whole of BoB goes into full war mode.". Of course there's a fair amount of comments from some of our rank and file that may suggest we have certain intentions but as usual we're operating on a need to know basis, so unless one of the four CEO's states something a little more clearly all this talk about alliance warfare, objectives, goals and strategies is just an amusing little sideshow Eve Blacklight Style

KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:27:00 - [271] Hairy muff BL. KIA EVE Home
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:56:00 - [272] Originally by: Blacklight All true and yet all the comments and debate by people as yet uninvolved in this little scuffle are nothing more than speculation and conjecture. What lots of people seem to have missed is the fact that we have announced nothing other than the fact that "As of today, the whole of BoB goes into full war mode.". Of course there's a fair amount of comments from some of our rank and file that may suggest we have certain intentions but as usual we're operating on a need to know basis, so unless one of the four CEO's states something a little more clearly all this talk about alliance warfare, objectives, goals and strategies is just an amusing little sideshow Thanks for clearing that up. I suppose not advertising your goals makes it hard for you to fail? Might want to reign in some of the bobbits though, they seem to think you're going to take ASCN space or die trying, which seems a bit premature. FREEE is Recruiting
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:59:00 - [273] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 02/10/2006 13:49:11 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Butter Dog Yap Yap Yap If BoB had a Titan for every fanboi Butter Dog that has popped up and made his insignificant "assessments" throughout the existance of our alliance we'd have the power to instanuke the entire universe by now. Unfortunately, instead we are left on a world strangely devoid of kittens. Think of the kittens BD, don't post. Actually if you check back on the threads, you will see that my posts remain intact, while the low-level personal flames against me from your 'forum elite' are deleted by the mods. Nice one. My points that I made to rift stand. They are intelligent and reasoned, you are welcome to debate them in an equally reasoned way if you are capable, or are you going to tell me something else about some kittens? I'm sorry if I can see through your little charade and point out a few basic facts like 'you are not tearing ASCN apart, you are achieving expected kill/loss and you have not taken a single station'. I'm sorry if it takes the shine of your ridiculous egos, but frankly everyone here can see what this is really about. Those are the facts, whether you like it or not. Everyone who isnt BoB and is reading this thread can clearly see that, but by all means go on pretending you are uber by winning a few fleet engagements against some Industrialists. The rest of us can just roll our eyes, offer a few insincere 'yes, well done' type comments, and wait in eager anticipation for you to actually bring your dreads out to play and lose them all. We're waiting... Tick tock. I don't even need to debate your points junior. Presidio, The Cursed, Cheface, Anue + various reincarnations, Mongo Peck and an assortment of others have exhausted the topic of " BoB's Inabilities, Inadequacies and Failures " long before you even heard of eve. Guess where they all are now and how valid their "intelligent and reasonably" argued comments are now. One thing you can do is research the story behind Tick Tock, the line you just so wittily used, it contains all the answers to your case. Look, when ASCN actually does start falling apart, when I see Sov changes, when you do anything other than win a few fleet engagements... THEN your alliance will start looking less ridiculous in your ego-driven rants. But right now, at this moment in time, you're not really justified in doing that. Your offer to the local corporations only served to make you look weak, like you are trying to avoid a costly POS war. Understandable, but still... drop the ego-posts because you are far from winning this battle. Who knows, you may do it, but right now you have achieved nothing of any significance. No. Now sod off
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:12:00 - [274] Originally by: AvanCade No. Now sod off Another remarkable and insightful post from you, Avancade. You really are doing yourself and your alliance proud on the forums today, do keep it up.
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:15:00 - [275] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade No. Now sod off Another remarkable and insightful post from you, Avancade. You really are doing yourself and your alliance proud on the forums today, do keep it up. You asked and i answered in simple terms. NO. Hard to understand?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:16:00 - [276] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade No. Now sod off Another remarkable and insightful post from you, Avancade. You really are doing yourself and your alliance proud on the forums today, do keep it up. You asked and i answered in simple terms. NO. Hard to understand? I'm sorry, I didn't ask you anthing, could you please inform me what it is you are talking about?
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:19:00 - [277] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade No. Now sod off Another remarkable and insightful post from you, Avancade. You really are doing yourself and your alliance proud on the forums today, do keep it up. You asked and i answered in simple terms. NO. Hard to understand? I'm sorry, I didn't ask you anthing, could you please inform me what it is you are talking about? Nvm Butterd dog, you just want the reply's to turn into a smack fest. Back on topic, with molle's post as to his offer.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:22:00 - [278] Originally by: AvanCade Nvm Butterd dog, you just want the reply's to turn into a smack fest. Back on topic, with molle's post as to his offer. Don't be so ridiculously hypocritical. This was my post: Look, when ASCN actually does start falling apart, when I see Sov changes, when you do anything other than win a few fleet engagements... THEN your alliance will start looking less ridiculous in your ego-driven rants. But right now, at this moment in time, you're not really justified in doing that. Your offer to the local corporations only served to make you look weak, like you are trying to avoid a costly POS war. Understandable, but still... drop the ego-posts because you are far from winning this battle. Who knows, you may do it, but right now you have achieved nothing of any significance. This was your reply: No. Now sod off ------ So, remind me, who is turning it into a smackfest again?
Grim Savage Caldari The Grim Reaper Squad	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:38:00 - [279] Originally by: Rebellion Lack of information is one thing, such as thinking that the firing took out ASCN support, which was not stated as fact (hence initial report). However, there are degrees of inaccuracy that border on deliberate obfuscation in claiming a 4-1 ratio and 60 people logging off when fact is that the overall losses inflicted by the weapon were insignificant and the people that vanished (likely didn't log off at all) were no more than 4. ASCN, I'm warning you about what happened with PA in the past. If you start being careless about the accuracy of information and become too lenient with ridiculous claims, your own people will start disliking you. No more inacurate than Molle's claim that ASCN corps liveing in Paragon SOul have to move out or be kicked out. Now that is some very inacurate information, and I can not understand how BOB members can believe such a lie. Oww.. and I am pretty sure that there are some bugs with that doomsday-toy giveing cyvok some funny mails with nothing on it. Well, anyway.. BOB leadership : take the advice from your member here. Don't post lies and half-truth on the public network. It only makes you look like BurnEden wanna-bees.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:50:00 - [280] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade Nvm Butterd dog, you just want the reply's to turn into a smack fest. Back on topic, with molle's post as to his offer. Don't be so ridiculously hypocritical. This was my post: Look, when ASCN actually does start falling apart, when I see Sov changes, when you do anything other than win a few fleet engagements... THEN your alliance will start looking less ridiculous in your ego-driven rants. But right now, at this moment in time, you're not really justified in doing that. Your offer to the local corporations only served to make you look weak, like you are trying to avoid a costly POS war. Understandable, but still... drop the ego-posts because you are far from winning this battle. Who knows, you may do it, but right now you have achieved nothing of any significance. This was your reply: No. Now sod off ------ So, remind me, who is turning it into a smackfest again? Hmm, I have now noticed you trolling all the thread's with bob in now, your the bitter one from ec right? At the end of the day, your not in this war and arent fighting in it so what makes your words gospel and ours lies seeing as were the ones actually fighting. We know this isn't going to be a quick war but dammit, it's a blast and pretty much non stop skirmish, small gang and fleet battle's all the time, now the added joy of titan dodging. I personally hope this war last's ages, not for kills, not for ratio's but because ascn fight, each and every time. Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance

DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:14:00 - [281] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: AvanCade Nvm Butterd dog, you just want the reply's to turn into a smack fest. Back on topic, with molle's post as to his offer. Don't be so ridiculously hypocritical. This was my post: Look, when ASCN actually does start falling apart, when I see Sov changes, when you do anything other than win a few fleet engagements... THEN your alliance will start looking less ridiculous in your ego-driven rants. But right now, at this moment in time, you're not really justified in doing that. Your offer to the local corporations only served to make you look weak, like you are trying to avoid a costly POS war. Understandable, but still... drop the ego-posts because you are far from winning this battle. Who knows, you may do it, but right now you have achieved nothing of any significance. This was your reply: No. Now sod off ------ So, remind me, who is turning it into a smackfest again? Butter Dog 4tw!!!!
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:15:00 - [282] Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 16:17:07 Originally by: Reto Edited by: Reto on 02/10/2006 16:06:35 comon bob ! ascn shows u by far more respect than u do. u started this topic after u lost some ships to a titan. comon not every loss is a tragedy which needs ego boosting afterwards. if u are good and honorable pvpers ur moral wount be hurt by this, so no need for forum holocaust mkay HAve you ever fired with titan? Dont you think with many threads as "Name best 5" "Who is most...", "This pilot is crap", etc,etc....that this one dont deserve its own place on CORP AND ALLIANCE FORUMS? AND moderators...please....dont you think that some posts make you feel deja vue in different threads with different subject?...think about it before another LOCK Discussing moderation in your signature is bad. Don't do it- Tirg Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:17:00 - [283] Originally by: Reto Edited by: Reto on 02/10/2006 16:06:35 comon bob ! ascn shows u by far more respect than u do. u started this topic after u lost some ships to a titan. comon not every loss is a tragedy which needs ego boosting afterwards. if u are good and honorable pvpers ur moral wount be hurt by this, so no need for forum holocaust mkay we lost 3 ships to the titan.. ASCN lost almost that many to their own titan. It really doesnt matter. It was just funny to see the frist DD to be fired in the act of aggression miss its true target.. we got such a good laugh out of it just like ASCN did.. now back to the killing things have just started.. tick tock --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
Belid Hagen Illegitimate Royalty	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:19:00 - [284] It's so funny how BoB are following the leaked strategy to the letter. If i hadn't read Sirmolle's BoB Playbook I might actually have belived one or two of the posts the BOB forum squad posted. give them hell ASCN
Havras the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:22:00 - [285] Originally by: Hey You im not sure how can you call using toy one firing trough cyno field... when they get their toy out of pos and into battlefield and then fire their weapon respect to them untill then... well... I was going to be finished posting here but I need to correct someone who obviously has NO CLUE. You can't fire the DD from inside a POS. The fact that it fired means it was OUTSIDE of the POS which means it was in danger... Doh.
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:29:00 - [286] Originally by: Havras Originally by: Hey You im not sure how can you call using toy one firing trough cyno field... when they get their toy out of pos and into battlefield and then fire their weapon respect to them untill then... well... I was going to be finished posting here but I need to correct someone who obviously has NO CLUE. You can't fire the DD from inside a POS. The fact that it fired means it was OUTSIDE of the POS which means it was in danger... Doh. Don't want to flame or anything, but with our numbers in local, flying titan 10km to be 1km outside the shield and firing the doomsday ain't exactley danger now is it ? Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S
xtreamer Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:54:00 - [287] Originally by: Kaiu 1. BOB support fleet gets wiped out by Doomsday device. 2. BOB FC's cry 3. BOB tells their forum ***** propoganda monkeys to "fly my beautys.." 4. Untruths appear on EVE-O forums /signed _____________________________________ What made bob cross the rode? they had 3 to 1 ods :D
Vily Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:58:00 - [288] i've got to admit, i am very very suprised the BOB propoganda machine is very potent but ascn have unleashed something incredible as well... no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad. the REAL war atm, is being waged on the forums. Until BOB actually do something... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well. ------------------------ Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily
Romble The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:01:00 - [289] im sure Cyvok feels pretty crappy about this. All that time and isk to build and it is no more effective then a smartboming battleship
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:01:00 - [290] Originally by: Vily i've got to admit, i am very very suprised the BOB propoganda machine is very potent but ascn have unleashed something incredible as well... no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad. the REAL war atm, is being waged on the forums. Until BOB actually do something... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well. No the real battle is beeing waged ingame, your just not a part of it so you have no clue on whats going on. And BoB is doing "something" we are having fun killing ASCN wether thats your idea of something i dont care, i have yet to see you in action little one. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon

Vily Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:04:00 - [291] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Vily i've got to admit, i am very very suprised the BOB propoganda machine is very potent but ascn have unleashed something incredible as well... no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad. the REAL war atm, is being waged on the forums. Until BOB actually do something... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well. No the real battle is beeing waged ingame, your just not a part of it so you have no clue on whats going on. And BoB is doing "something" we are having fun killing ASCN wether thats your idea of something i dont care, i have yet to see you in action little one. fleet fights are fun, not actually necessary, until you add in POS/station factors are they actually important. you can attempt to wear down your opponent all you want but i think ascn has proved a few times before that attrition only works in their favor. Maybe i'll see you around ^^ its a big universe ------------------------ Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:15:00 - [292] Who cares about the numbers and the theorycraft of the war. All i can say is the vent must of been hilarious for the BoB tacklers "Warping in now to catch the straglers. Coming out of warp now. ...Oh **! .... Well cyvok tackled the rest for us! " In rust we trust!!!**
Lone Bear Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:20:00 - [293] Edited by: Lone Bear on 02/10/2006 17:21:27 Originally by: Belid Hagen It's so funny how BoB are following the leaked strategy to the letter. If i hadn't read Sirmolle's BoB Playbook I might actually have belived one or two of the posts the BOB forum squad posted. give them hell ASCN Be a grown up pod pilot: polish your weapons, step up, come to the battlefield and fight. ...So easy to act like that on forum... Edit: Forum DD ate my post
Cpt Narcissus	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:28:00 - [294] Well there are always problems with new technology, although usualy the worst that happens is you leave the mod on too long and lose some cap.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:37:00 - [295] This thread = big lol @ Bob. Keep it up lads, i heard from some friend of some guy somewhere, that he still wasnt convinced you're the #1 forumwarriors. And where's the fraps ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:38:00 - [296] ASCN have fired thier titans weapons - when can we expect BOB to use thiers? And remember to have someone fraps it. To those that died in the first firing congrats on making history. The history still to be written first titan kill to whom will it belong?
UGWidowmaker Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:44:00 - [297] what a laugh!!. wish i was there. I will make u into biosource...
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:31:00 - [298] I know this problably won't get much attention here, but after reading i find out that the titan can fire remotely though Cyno (yes i didn't know before) i'm thinking here the titan warped in and went muhaha sorta but not really. I know Cyvok is saying it's not really a too uber doomsday as some BS's can tank it and with the tear 3 tank BS coming out there will be even more. But Since you can activate Doomsday though Cyno, why not have that to current damage, but if titan warps in to the fleet say and activates it's Doomsday there have it really more painfull maybe 3X more Damage, and the balls to warp a titan into a fleet. That would make a even better story for both sides, All we see was 5-6 dictors bubble us up way up at our snipe point and then 40 KM away a Titan, You'll really get the Ohhhhh **** Feeling then. Instead of using it though a Cyno, More Risk warping it into a fleet but even more reward. :) Just a suggestion to CCP I'll post it in game developement forums also. _________________________________________________________ My First EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Morpheus Dreadnor	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:54:00 - [299] so very true Auction caracter. Signature image removed - That's just wrong... mkay? - Immy
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:58:00 - [300] Originally by: Vily i've got to admit, i am very very suprised the BOB propoganda machine is very potent but ascn have unleashed something incredible as well... no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad. the REAL war atm, is being waged on the forums. Until BOB actually do something... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well. Not to mention those of us outside ASCN

NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:10:00 - [301] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Vily i've got to admit, i am very very suprised the BOB propoganda machine is very potent but ascn have unleashed something incredible as well... no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad. the REAL war atm, is being waged on the forums. Until BOB actually do something... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well. Not to mention those of us outside ASCN hehe indeed... its a little funny to see BoBs propaganda missions back-firering on themselfes. :) Anyways, IMO a battle should be fought in the game, and not on the forums :)
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:13:00 - [302] Originally by: Butter Dog no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad... ....... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well... Actually the only reason the "righteous fury" of ASCN's forum participants is holding up is because Cyvok keeps bailing them out....... whilst having committed the biggest blunder in this forum saga yet (saying that he may crash nodes, astutely followed by a categorical statement that he wouldn't), Cyvok is the one ASCN poster who is keeping ASCN's credibility from disintegrating. ASCN doesn't have any forum warriors, just a sea of posting with no direction (sometimes they are hobbits, sometimes they are victims, sometimes they are arrogant, sometimes they are angry, sometimes they are stoic).... its just not consistent... BoB on the other hand have a very clear message - arrogance, superiority and inevitability. And nearly all BoB posters stick to that message. ASCN don't have a message.. or if they do its getting lost amongst all the other messages. If they had one message and stuck to that no matter what, the forums would be much more fun. As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:14:00 - [303] Originally by: Romble im sure Cyvok feels pretty crappy about this. All that time and isk to build and it is no more effective then a smartboming battleship Tbh, they should have used it in combination with a few suicide dictors. Still, I'm sure they know this and there is always next time.
Kazim The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:21:00 - [304] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Butter Dog no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad... ....... i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well... Actually the only reason the "righteous fury" of ASCN's forum participants is holding up is because Cyvok keeps bailing them out....... whilst having committed the biggest blunder in this forum saga yet (saying that he may crash nodes, astutely followed by a categorical statement that he wouldn't), Cyvok is the one ASCN poster who is keeping ASCN's credibility from disintegrating. ASCN doesn't have any forum warriors, just a sea of posting with no direction (sometimes they are hobbits, sometimes they are victims, sometimes they are arrogant, sometimes they are angry, sometimes they are stoic).... its just not consistent... BoB on the other hand have a very clear message - arrogance, superiority and inevitability. And nearly all BoB posters stick to that message. ASCN don't have a message.. or if they do its getting lost amongst all the other messages. If they had one message and stuck to that no matter what, the forums would be much more fun. As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. Nez, you don't have to take these forums so seriously. In fact a lot of people from both sides shouldn't.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:22:00 - [305] Originally by: Kazim Nez, you don't have to take these forums so seriously. In fact a lot of people from both sides shouldn't. ...who says I do?
NeoTech Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:26:00 - [306] Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. I agree, we dont have a Forum strategy... Why should we? Embarrasing? nahh, i cant see how not having a forum strategy could be embarrasing... :)
Princess Alvilda Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:29:00 - [307] Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] why? wth do they win by forum warfare? you should really play the game more and stay less on the forum.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:34:00 - [308] Originally by: Princess Alvilda Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] why? wth do they win by forum warfare? you should really play the game more and stay less on the forum. Ah, the refreshing niavety of that post made me smile. Eve Blacklight Style
Beringe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:44:00 - [309] Originally by: Princess Alvilda Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] why? wth do they win by forum warfare? you should really play the game more and stay less on the forum. Morale, for one. And appearing strong dissuades would-be bandwagoners. There's more reasons. Ignore the psychological and diplomatic aspect of warfare at your own peril. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Hubris Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:45:00 - [310] Edited by: Hubris on 02/10/2006 19:45:11 still its pretty cool that they even took it outside to fire the thing off. I really didn't think it would be this early after it was made. Way to go ASCN for having the guts to even use it.

Princess Alvilda Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:53:00 - [311] Originally by: Beringe Originally by: Princess Alvilda Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] why? wth do they win by forum warfare? you should really play the game more and stay less on the forum. Morale, for one. And appearing strong dissuades would-be bandwagoners. There's more reasons. Ignore the psychological and diplomatic aspect of warfare at your own peril. if you need morale of a games forum to be able to shoot at a few pixels... you might be a junkie.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 19:59:00 - [312] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 20:03:02 Originally by: Kazim Sorry I was not trying to smack you or anything. It's just the amount of posting you do and sometimes the attitude you have of speaking as the collective mind of all eve players, that's strikes me as you care very much. But anyway, keep on posting people. And thanks to all involved parties for making these forums fun to read again. ... heh it would be highly presumptuous and delirious of me to pretend to be speaking for anybody but myself.. I take these forums as seriously as they need to be taken, which isnt too serious at all... although I admit the roleplaying aspect of posting does entertain me... And I agree with you that no matter who posts and what, we should grateful that the forums got an injection of adrenaline in this last week.... but then again Molle posts were always gonna be show stealers these forums wether we like it or not are a barometer for EVE's general well being. When its quiet it means the game is stagnant and thats no good. BoB vs ASCN First Titan Deployment.... and thats just in the last 4 days.. could you ask for anymore?
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:19:00 - [313] Originally by: Nez Perces these forums wether we like it or not are a barometer for EVE's general well being. When its quiet it means the game is stagnant and thats no good. So true.
Kohan Kisodairos	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:28:00 - [314] Originally by: Rift Scorn 4 to 1, then it wasn't. Then we logged off, then we didn't? great stories. As long as i have anything to do with a BoB gang, there will be no mass logging off in combat. oh, wait then it was 4 logging off? This just gets better. you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Kudos on the cahjoones to use the thing, but numbers speak for themselves atm. We're loving this, in fact i'd go as far as to say - we live for this. I hope you can keep this up as well, without slightly delusional ASCN CEO's talking rubbish. And why did you attack ASCN again? Oh that's right, you can't stand the fact that they built a titan before you did. BOB you are nothing but a pathetic alliance full of griefers who hate it when people accomplish things you can't. If the leadership of ASCN had any brains they would jump that Titan and a fleet to your space and start picking of the few stations you've managed to build.
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:31:00 - [315] Edited by: Reto on 02/10/2006 20:34:10 Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 02/10/2006 16:17:07 Originally by: Reto Edited by: Reto on 02/10/2006 16:06:35 comon bob ! ascn shows u by far more respect than u do. u started this topic after u lost some ships to a titan. comon not every loss is a tragedy which needs ego boosting afterwards. if u are good and honorable pvpers ur moral wount be hurt by this, so no need for forum holocaust mkay HAve you ever fired with titan? Dont you think with many threads as "Name best 5" "Who is most...", "This pilot is crap", etc,etc....that this one dont deserve its own place on CORP AND ALLIANCE FORUMS? AND moderators...please....dont you think that some posts make you feel deja vue in different threads with different subject?...think about it before another LOCK i dont criticise u for starting threads in general my friend but bob posts by far the most one-sided threads on this forum section underlining how stupid the enemy is and how bob laughs about it. sad but true lesser posting here may shows some professionality. and yes there are ascn doods who smack aswell. but ur guys smack way too much. sorry but as a 3rd party which wants to enjoy the forum drama on a say "roleplay" kind of level its hard to do so since ur ppl make the whole forum thing annyoing. i think we need an independent correspondant for this who posts without any unofficials rabble on it. Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:32:00 - [316] above was me In rust we trust!!!
Ishtar Amin	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:32:00 - [317] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 20:13:23 these forums wether we like it or not are a barometer for EVE's general well being. When its quiet it means the game is stagnant and thats no good. well tbh a grand total of 50 pages or so of 2 sides flaming each other doesn't exactly mean eve is up and bumping
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:34:00 - [318] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 20:36:11 Originally by: Murakan well tbh a grand total of 50 pages or so of 2 sides flaming each other doesn't exactly mean eve is up and bumping OFC it does.. it means people are caring what happens ingame = they will log on = they will tell their friends how exciting it all is = game is healthy = people in empire might consider joining in all the fun... with nothing going on in these forums, people will stop logging on if it goes on for too long..
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:34:00 - [319] Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos And why did you attack ASCN again? Oh that's right, you can't stand the fact that they built a titan before you did. BOB you are nothing but a pathetic alliance full of griefers who hate it when people accomplish things you can't. If the leadership of ASCN had any brains they would jump that Titan and a fleet to your space and start picking of the few stations you've managed to build. Please be advised you have been removed from my christmas card list for saying mean things about us. Eve Blacklight Style
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:36:00 - [320] Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights!

Chip2k3 Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:37:00 - [321] Originally by: Blacklight Please be advised you have been removed from my christmas card list for saying mean things about us. Much as I know BL is a BOB CEO ya gotta love his style I want a pony for Xmas if you're buying ♥ Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:39:00 - [322] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! hahahhahahah.. clueless FTW.. like we have said 1billion times before our trip up north was a "vacation" it just turned into us taking Irons outpost. This campaign is differnt if you havent noticed. There is so much more to it then a vacation. But then agian this is coming from somone in BoB so I dont know what I am talking about. EVEN though I was there for the christmas vacation. Just like I was there yesterday when we all logged off to run away from the DD some of you just need to get a grip... Seriously. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:40:00 - [323] Originally by: Chip2k3 Originally by: Blacklight Please be advised you have been removed from my christmas card list for saying mean things about us. Much as I know BL is a BOB CEO ya gotta love his style I want a pony for Xmas if you're buying ♥ BL I am NOT for sale or gift so DONT get any ideas. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:44:00 - [324] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! hahahhahahah.. clueless FTW.. like we have said 1billion times before our trip up north was a "vacation" it just turned into us taking Irons outpost. This campaign is differnt if you havent noticed. There is so much more to it then a vacation. But then agian this is coming from somone in BoB so I dont know what I am talking about. EVEN though I was there for the christmas vacation. Just like I was there yesterday when we all logged off to run away from the DD some of you just need to get a grip... Seriously. According to Molle, we're not supposed to listen to your thoughts on BoB's plan. FREEE is Recruiting
Tia Kohi	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:46:00 - [325] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: Rina Shanu Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Those of you claiming that BoB pilots logged off to avoid the blast are a disgrace. That may be, truth is truth, but the fact that your BoB mates are smacking the boards 5x the amount ascn does is also a disgrace. I for one liked BoB for tha military power it is and with military comes discipline and order. Seems you all just love taking the flame bait and chewing on it anf thus ruining the forums. Nobody can get an accurate history of the fleetbattles and the war in general. Well of course we are, we take great pride in our abilities and achievments so when some retarded little child comes on to the forums and starts bleeting that we logged off en masse to avoid the doomsday weapon it's highly likely to get us all riled up, hence the outburst of smack. The total ** that has been posted by ASCN members on various forums is a disgrace, their misinformation is worse than the PA's ever was so there's no wonder our guys 'n gals are venting. Hey you stupid **. You guys made this thread and started the smaking. What happen to the old BOB. Seems it's been taken over by a bunch of children.
sonofollo Caldari 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:47:00 - [326] maybe BOB want a titan killmail - it wouldnt surprise me given their PVP focus that the first titan kill would just about finally send their egos thro the stratosphere and probably a fraps to remember This isnt a gripe at BOB but they are PVPers and being "1st" to blow a titan would be a very big target to achieve and brag about and would finally cement em as the premier e-peen alliance PVP wise ingame as for ASCN well taking the fight to bob requires guts but might bring about some choas esp if they start taking out POSes in delve. Which there are a few i would assume Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Chip2k3 Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:47:00 - [327] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Chip2k3 Originally by: Blacklight Please be advised you have been removed from my christmas card list for saying mean things about us. Much as I know BL is a BOB CEO ya gotta love his style I want a pony for Xmas if you're buying ♥ BL I am NOT for sale or gift so DONT get any ideas. Kelly and the sexy stud? Clerks 2? Anyone? Hahahaha! You'll never mod meeeeeee!
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:49:00 - [328] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! I can give you some paraphrasing of how that post would go, assuming BoB doesn't just stay. "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)"
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:50:00 - [329] Originally by: Rift Scorn 4 to 1, then it wasn't. Then we logged off, then we didn't? great stories. As long as i have anything to do with a BoB gang, there will be no mass logging off in combat. oh, wait then it was 4 logging off? This just gets better. you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Kudos on the cahjoones to use the thing, but numbers speak for themselves atm. We're loving this, in fact i'd go as far as to say - we live for this. I hope you can keep this up as well, without slightly delusional ASCN CEO's talking rubbish. You and most of your alliance are better than this, no need to smack just let your ingame actions do the talking Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:52:00 - [330] FFS, make better use of the damn thing. Thats a complete joke. Its there to blow the enemy up not yourself. This is why its pathetic ASCN having a titan. No idea.... ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus

NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:53:00 - [331] Originally by: Hawkings SJ Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! I can give you some paraphrasing of how that post would go, assuming BoB doesn't just stay. "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)" That is spot-on. LTS: BoB Propaganda Writer FREEE is Recruiting
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:55:00 - [332] Edited by: Hawkings SJ on 02/10/2006 20:55:45 Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Hawkings SJ Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! I can give you some paraphrasing of how that post would go, assuming BoB doesn't just stay. "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)" That is spot-on. LTS: BoB Propaganda Writer I'd do it for free, if they let me. I think I could probably chop about 4 sentances out of that thing and get it down to about 40 words...then it would probably sound more authentic. Who can pass up the opportunity to create the game's next dozen catch phrases? Tick tock, Goodbye, etc?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:00:00 - [333] Originally by: Hawkings SJ "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)" Hope you don't mind but I am going to keep that for future use, it'll save us some typing Eve Blacklight Style
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:04:00 - [334] Originally by: Hawkings SJ Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Some of the posts from BoB members bring backs sweet memories of the F-E vs Five war. I wonder why. Anyway, my prediction of this war is that the fight will go on for a few weeks, then BoB will leave for home, claiming it was "according to plan" like they did when they lost to G a while back. GL to both sides, and have fun and smack free fights! I can give you some paraphrasing of how that post would go, assuming BoB doesn't just stay. "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)" Its funny because its true. Also, you have got to love the way they havent really stated any objectives, so whatever they manage to achieve, they can just say 'this is precisely what we set out to do'. Honestly BoB, you underestimate the intelligence of the average EVE player. This is rapidly turning into comedy gold.
Beringe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:06:00 - [335] Originally by: Hawkings SJ Who can pass up the opportunity to create the game's next dozen catch phrases? Tick tock, Goodbye, etc? That made me smile. Perhaps you could even give it some pleasing alliteration or pop-culture reference that doesn't involve the Matrix. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:06:00 - [336] ITS A FREAKING CLOCK PEOPLE! God you are slow. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Originally by: Reddari Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:10:00 - [337] Originally by: Butter Dog Its funny because its true. Also, you have got to love the way they havent really stated any objectives, so whatever they manage to achieve, they can just say 'this is precisely what we set out to do'. Honestly BoB, you underestimate the intelligence of the average EVE player. This is rapidly turning into comedy gold. Well, as we know exactly what our intentions are I guess that cover's everyone that matters then The funny and I mean real laugh out loud funny stuff going on is all the random uninformed commentators (such as yourself) wading in left right and centre, now that's proper comedy. A couple of forum posts, throw in a bit of a wind up here and there, let the lads smacktalk a bit, fly about down south killing some stuff and all of a sudden a million experts on BoB and alliance warfare are born! You couldn't pay money for all that 'expertise' and knowledge being imported into people's heads overnight, it's truly a miracle! I'm truly glad you're having fun, once again we bring entertainment to the great unwashed masses, it warms the*****les of my heart Eve Blacklight Style
Sirr Hammer Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:45:00 - [338] Edited by: Sirr Hammer on 02/10/2006 21:51:46 a bit of topic ...iff he gets luckey and hit oure main fleet .whit the dd. he vil most likly get up near the same bs kill amount as we get on them almost every day ..so far .today the count is 37 bs killed .not gonna wast time on suport count .but u all know oure kb. u dont ned the smack to follow the war just go chek the bord..
Ysabelle nKataros Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 23:46:00 - [339] Originally by: Nez Perces BoB on the other hand have a very clear message - arrogance, superiority and inevitability. And nearly all BoB posters stick to that message. I'd say it's less of a message and more of a mindset. It sounds like a message because we all think the same way (Yarr! ) Insofar as fulfilling our objectives goes... 1. It's only been 3 days! Give us a break, even BoB doesn't move that fast. 2. Most of us really aren't too worked up about taking space, for now we're just happy to rack up lots of expensive and pretty killmails. 3. To the guy who was yapping about BoB getting out its own titan(s), do I distinctly recall the words "BoB does not have a titan" in one of Molle's posts? Yes I do. Thankyou. 4. I think we can all agree that moving the titan further than 10km out of POS shields is an unecessary risk considering its capabilities and vulnerabilities. So while CYVOK might not be a very good shot with his new toy let's give him the credit of not being a complete tard that would LEEROY it into the BoB fleet. Remember folks, the brains and experience of a fleet commander are the true weapons. Turrets, launchers and ships are just tools.
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:01:00 - [340] Originally by: Butter Dog Honestly BoB, you underestimate the intelligence of the average EVE player. This is rapidly turning into comedy gold. Yeah we got where we are today by caring one iota about the estimated intelligence level of the average Eve Player? The average Eve player is ... like you, merely a puppet at the end of our strings, doing what is expected. The names change from time to time, but the position is filled as expected. The only comedy gold here is watching the birth of a new batch of fanbois like yourself. It's a big club, and you aren't that exceptional as far as it's membership goes, but keep at it. You are nothing we haven't seen, or dealt with. To be honest, you could stand to come up with a point of view of your own, that hasn't been repeated ad nausum on these forums for 3 years. We don't answer to you, the Eve community, or anyone else for that matter. Please keep posting. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.

hitech redneck Digital Mind Crimes	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:04:00 - [341] Originally by: Romble im sure Cyvok feels pretty crappy about this. All that time and isk to build and it is no more effective then a smartboming battleship Give ccp time to tweak it. Everyone knew it came pre-nerfed as devs not wanting it to be to strong. from the posts i have read i can see 3 things that may need tweaked a bit. 1)Damage output needs to be a bit higher 2)shorter delay in time it takes to fire the weapon.(the time from when the fire button is hit till the time it fires) 3)Larger damage area
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:44:00 - [342] Originally by: hitech redneck 3)Larger damage area Guys, I know I posted pics earlier with our fleet seemingly warping off from the explosion. I've reviewed my fraps, and it seems our fleet was just slightly off grid, as the cans taht appeared from the destroyed ships appeared from there being nothing at all in their place. I rally believe the device did destroy everything in its grid, we were simply a few KM from the grid it was fired in. Here are 2 pics, they are 2 consecutive frames of the same video. that means they are only 1/25th of a seccond apart. Frame 365 Frame 366 So basically, I think that the weapon works and no bugs were involved, just unfortuneate for ASCN we were off grid, as often happens with these warp points we use to load the scene beforre going in as they tend to be 500 - 600 KM from the enemy fleet. RIP MGRL
Belid Hagen Illegitimate Royalty	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:55:00 - [343] Originally by: Nez Perces Actually the only reason the "righteous fury" of ASCN's forum participants is holding up is because Cyvok keeps bailing them out....... whilst having committed the biggest blunder in this forum saga yet (saying that he may crash nodes, astutely followed by a categorical statement that he wouldn't), Cyvok is the one ASCN poster who is keeping ASCN's credibility from disintegrating. ASCN doesn't have any forum warriors, just a sea of posting with no direction (sometimes they are hobbits, sometimes they are victims, sometimes they are arrogant, sometimes they are angry, sometimes they are stoic).... its just not consistent... BoB on the other hand have a very clear message - arrogance, superiority and inevitability. And nearly all BoB posters stick to that message. ASCN don't have a message.. or if they do its getting lost amongst all the other messages. If they had one message and stuck to that no matter what, the forums would be much more fun. As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] Men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater. A selfproclaimed arrogant person is one unjustifiably confident in their own ability and value. He believes himself to be superior to others, whether or not he really is. Arrogance is often paired with a lack of knowledge, interest in, and exploration of history. Defeat is inevitable when the the arrogant, the overconfident and belligerent cannot fathom his owbn weakness.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:56:00 - [344] Originally by: Hectic Originally by: hitech redneck 3)Larger damage area Guys, I know I posted pics earlier with our fleet seemingly warping off from the explosion. I've reviewed my fraps, and it seems our fleet was just slightly off grid, as the cans taht appeared from the destroyed ships appeared from there being nothing at all in their place. I rally believe the device did destroy everything in its grid, we were simply a few KM from the grid it was fired in. Here are 2 pics, they are 2 consecutive frames of the same video. that means they are only 1/25th of a seccond apart. Frame 365 Frame 366 So basically, I think that the weapon works and no bugs were involved, just unfortuneate for ASCN we were off grid, as often happens with these warp points we use to load the scene beforre going in as they tend to be 500 - 600 KM from the enemy fleet. Feckin' Newfie!! Fix your overview!! OH! and, Ontario > NewfieTown That is all. >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:07:00 - [345] Originally by: HostageTaker Feckin' Newfie!! Fix your overview!! OH! and, Ontario > NewfieTown That is all. I can taste you jealousy of my hawtness RIP MGRL
Mak'shar Karrde Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:07:00 - [346] Originally by: hitech redneck Originally by: Romble im sure Cyvok feels pretty crappy about this. All that time and isk to build and it is no more effective then a smartboming battleship Give ccp time to tweak it. Everyone knew it came pre-nerfed as devs not wanting it to be to strong. from the posts i have read i can see 3 things that may need tweaked a bit. 1)Damage output needs to be a bit higher 2)shorter delay in time it takes to fire the weapon.(the time from when the fire button is hit till the time it fires) 3)Larger damage area Lets not forget that it was poorly aimed (sorry), if it had landed smack-bang in the middle of BoB's fleet then I imagine this thread would have turned out rather differently. This war has the potential to continue for a long time yet, I'm sure we will get more chances to see how effective a weapon the Titan can be. I know I'm just an observer, I shouldn't really be posting in this thread, I'm just interested in the efficacy of this new Superweapon. There are so many questions to be asked, I am definetly looking forward to finding out the answers.
Afonso Henriques Minmatar Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:09:00 - [347] Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos Originally by: Rift Scorn 4 to 1, then it wasn't. Then we logged off, then we didn't? great stories. As long as i have anything to do with a BoB gang, there will be no mass logging off in combat. oh, wait then it was 4 logging off? This just gets better. you're getting surigcally taken apart ASCN. We're in your front garden kicking your gnomes around for a laugh. We're taking gangs 1/3 the size of your static fleet and just chopping out whoever we want, and this is just the first act. Kudos on the cahjoones to use the thing, but numbers speak for themselves atm. We're loving this, in fact i'd go as far as to say - we live for this. I hope you can keep this up as well, without slightly delusional ASCN CEO's talking rubbish. And why did you attack ASCN again? Oh that's right, you can't stand the fact that they built a titan before you did. BOB you are nothing but a pathetic alliance full of griefers who hate it when people accomplish things you can't. If the leadership of ASCN had any brains they would jump that Titan and a fleet to your space and start picking of the few stations you've managed to build. When I see posts like this, I (and I am sure most others not in the fight) rightfully assume you're an angry ascn member who is mad that they can't npc or mine and now must help defend your alliance. Your whole post reeks of anger.
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:22:00 - [348] It seems that my powers of investigation are not so good. I was told taht infact yes, we were on grid with the explosion as those cans appeared from invisable ships, hence all the cloaking ships to be found on the killbards from that blast. /me hits himself with the stoopid stick for not thinking of that. RIP MGRL
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:23:00 - [349] Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Butter Dog Honestly BoB, you underestimate the intelligence of the average EVE player. This is rapidly turning into comedy gold. Yeah we got where we are today by caring one iota about the estimated intelligence level of the average Eve Player? The average Eve player is ... like you, merely a puppet at the end of our strings, doing what is expected. The names change from time to time, but the position is filled as expected. The only comedy gold here is watching the birth of a new batch of fanbois like yourself. It's a big club, and you aren't that exceptional as far as it's membership goes, but keep at it. You are nothing we haven't seen, or dealt with. To be honest, you could stand to come up with a point of view of your own, that hasn't been repeated ad nausum on these forums for 3 years. We don't answer to you, the Eve community, or anyone else for that matter. Please keep posting. And what exactly have you achieved that is so great? Some campaigns against Goons/Huzzah/Aridia Locals (lol)/ASCN. You havent actually gone up against a decent PvP force and achieved anything other than mediocrity. You pick soft, ripe targets. Thats fine, after all why would you not want to do that, but don't you dare pretend for a second that you are anything other than good PvPers. In the same way that RED/D2/AAA are good PvPers. You're not better, you're not special, so deal with it. And let me tell you something, people have a hell of a lot more respect for D2 than they ever will for you and your brigade of egomaniacs. Not only are they talented and focused PvPers with an astonishing industrial backbone, they are respectful and dignified in a way you could only dream of.
Megadon Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:30:00 - [350] Sheesh, just wanted to read about the first doomsday weapon firing... and almost all i see are drama queens that think the battles are won on the forums! I want my money back! Congrats to ascn on the first Titan!

ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:48:00 - [351] Edited by: ProphetGuru on 03/10/2006 01:49:02 Originally by: Butter Dog mindless unoriginal rant I've been seeing for three years. I'm starting to think you have this spiel on notepad and just paste it into 75% of your posts... The biggest point here, that you refuse to get thru your head, is that people's opinion on BoB's achievements, and the amount of respect we garner ingame, is much like the content of your posts... meaningless. You think we've achieved nothing. Ok. You're an expert on this how? Oh yeah... reading the forums and filling in the blanks with pointless speculation that you WANT to be true. LOL If I had 5isk for every expert on the "TRUTH about BOB" I'd have 10 titans in my hangar. Man, find some new material. You bore me. edit-spelling Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 01:55:00 - [352] Originally by: ProphetGuru Edited by: ProphetGuru on 03/10/2006 01:49:02 Originally by: Butter Dog mindless unoriginal rant I've been seeing for three years. I'm starting to think you have this spiel on notepad and just paste it into 75% of your posts... The biggest point here, that you refuse to get thru your head, is that people's opinion on BoB's achievements, and the amount of respect we garner ingame, is much like the content of your posts... meaningless. You think we've achieved nothing. Ok. You're an expert on this how? Oh yeah... reading the forums and filling in the blanks with pointless speculation that you WANT to be true. LOL If I had 5isk for every expert on the "TRUTH about BOB" I'd have 10 titans in my hangar. Man, find some new material. You bore me. edit-spelling The facts as I am presenting them are quite simple and very clear. I have never doubted that you are good PvPers. I do not doubt that you set out goals which you then achieve. What I have consistently highlighted is that you are, quite simply, nothing special. There are alliances with better industrial backbones. There are alliances with better kill/loss ratios. There are individual corps who set more admirable challenges to themselves (think CELES fighting you in Fountain). The fundamental problem you have is that your arrogance isnt backed up by any evidence of superiority. Quite the opposite. Until this rather glaring issue is resolved, your ego-massaging posts simply look empty and comical.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.03 02:10:00 - [353] Originally by: Butter Dog The fundamental problem you have is that your arrogance isnt backed up by any evidence of superiority. Quite the opposite. Until this rather glaring issue is resolved, your ego-massaging posts simply look empty and comical. First let me make it clear that I am not on BoB's side or ASCN's side for that matter... I just like to throw in my 2isk once in a while...k...now thats out of the way: .. here is something BoB have achieved or rather nobody has achieved against them.. to my knowledge at least. I going out on a limb here because I do not know this for certain... but as far as I am aware BoB have never had a POS taken down or an outpost or a player conquerable station taken off them, since they finished killing FA. I'm not going to go into why this has never happened.. but that alone is pretty impressive. I don't think another alliance out there can actually say that. If somebody can remember a BoB POS/outpost/conquerable station being taken off them... ill be happy to be corrected.
Romble The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.03 02:23:00 - [354] Hectic may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he is the best, funniest and nicest noof out there... course he is the only noof i know! and yes ontario>canada>nooofland /runs
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 02:28:00 - [355] ♥ Romble RIP MGRL
Rick Thwaites The Clearwater Society THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.03 02:58:00 - [356] Edited by: Rick Thwaites on 03/10/2006 02:58:38 Originally by: Hectic Originally by: hitech redneck 3)Larger damage area Guys, I know I posted pics earlier with our fleet seemingly warping off from the explosion. I've reviewed my fraps, and it seems our fleet was just slightly off grid, as the cans taht appeared from the destroyed ships appeared from there being nothing at all in their place. I rally believe the device did destroy everything in its grid, we were simply a few KM from the grid it was fired in. Here are 2 pics, they are 2 consecutive frames of the same video. that means they are only 1/25th of a seccond apart. Frame 365 Frame 366 So basically, I think that the weapon works and no bugs were involved, just unfortuneate for ASCN we were off grid, as often happens with these warp points we use to load the scene beforre going in as they tend to be 500 - 600 KM from the enemy fleet. Alberta > Ontario > Newfoundland. Otherwise explan Kasmir's existence in both my corp and my city. And I want to see the full fraps of the OMGWTFPWNsday device in action! EDIT: I SUCK AT SPELLING NFLD! -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected]) Not the first time I have been told I am too big...
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 03:15:00 - [357] Originally by: Butter Dog More of the same crap.... again Lol Holy crap, someone figured out we're arrogant and wants to point it out as a public service. Man... I am sure glad you came along to post the same drivel 42201 times... cuz untill you did, everyone thought we were humble. lol at j00. I hereby promote you one rank in the BoB Tinfoil hat Society. DING grats! p.s. - Facts are are not facts because you heard someone say something once somewhere passing thru Jita. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 03:35:00 - [358] Unfortunately, BoB's accomplishments greatly depend on who is around to remember them, and who they are affiliated with. And also that we don't really go around telling people everything that we've done. There's simply too much to tell, and a lot of it would be foreign to people not involved in it. To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. Have a nice day.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 03:43:00 - [359] I demand a Deathwing post! This thread isn't complete without one. As for butterball or whatever it's name is. Great work! You've made me smile at the forums again, and i'm actually touched we've acheived such a reaction from someone that isn't even involved. It almost makes my gibblets all runney. For all the BoB 'experts' out there. Your tin-foil hattery about us is equally as touching. Really. Some of these 'buhu whaaa you're nobodies, whaaa whaaa whaaa!' or 'you're just jealous, whaa whaa whaaaa!', last time i laughed that hard was at the Dylan Avery conspiracy theory - equally as un-thought out and dumb as much of these comments are.... but i just can't stop reading them and laughing to myself. Please keep up the good work. Although some of it serious rinse & repeat day-time soap opera syndication quality of low-end trash. To the people that ARE actually involved in the fight. You're fighting for your turf, let's keep playing . That new toy CYVOK's got definatley has added some spice to the moment, let's face it he's going to have to improove his aim though Here's to some more locking of Horns and mo' head on clashes plz! Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Serret Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 04:15:00 - [360] Originally by: Belid Hagen A selfproclaimed arrogant person is one unjustifiably confident in their own ability and value. He believes himself to be superior to others, whether or not he really is. Arrogance is often paired with a lack of knowledge, interest in, and exploration of history. Rather ironic, coming from a member of a corp that calls themselves "Illegitimate Royalty." -- <Deathwing> just say Amarr pwn cause DW is Amarr

zyphentits Sector 7	Posted - 2006.10.03 04:36:00 - [361] Why are people so mean to bob? All they do is come on here and talk smack about them. Don't get me wrong ASCN are very nice alliance and welcome many to there home. But let's face it this is a pvp game bob chose a target so what, get over it people, enjoy it. ---------------------------------------------
Togakure Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.03 04:41:00 - [362] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Butter Dog Honestly BoB, you underestimate the intelligence of the average EVE player. This is rapidly turning into comedy gold. Yeah we got where we are today by caring one iota about the estimated intelligence level of the average Eve Player? The average Eve player is ... like you, merely a puppet at the end of our strings, doing what is expected. The names change from time to time, but the position is filled as expected. The only comedy gold here is watching the birth of a new batch of fanbois like yourself. It's a big club, and you aren't that exceptional as far as it's membership goes, but keep at it. You are nothing we haven't seen, or dealt with. To be honest, you could stand to come up with a point of view of your own, that hasn't been repeated ad nausum on these forums for 3 years. We don't answer to you, the Eve community, or anyone else for that matter. Please keep posting. And what exactly have you achieved that is so great? Some campaigns against Goons/Huzzah/Aridia Locals (lol)/ASCN. You havent actually gone up against a decent PvP force and achieved anything other than mediocrity. You pick soft, ripe targets. Thats fine, after all why would you not want to do that, but don't you dare pretend for a second that you are anything other than good PvPers. In the same way that RED/D2/AAA are good PvPers. You're not better, you're not special, so deal with it. And let me tell you something, people have a hell of a lot more respect for D2 than they ever will for you and your brigade of egomaniacs. Not only are they talented and focused PvPers with an astonishing industrial backbone, they are respectful and dignified in a way you could only dream of. You say BoB's arrogant. Perhaps they are, but why should it bother you? Does it affect your gaming any? Has Molle's movie title-like forum postings deprived you of any sleep? I find it amusing you're bothered enough to make repeat posts on a matter that has no real significance to you. You say BoB isn't nothing special but your multiple postings on the subject contradicts that very statement. They clearly are worth your flaming time. And you are obviously following the developments as closely as I. They don't tell you how to play your game, why are you telling them how to play theirs?
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 05:05:00 - [363] Bitter Dog strikes again.
Alberta Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 07:18:00 - [364] Originally by: Rick Thwaites snip Alberta > Ontario > Newfoundland. Otherwise explan Kasmir's existence in both my corp and my city. Thanks! I know I'm good, but I don't think I could honestly claim to be greater than the whole of Ontario, well maybe on a good day, but definitely not every day.
BOldMan Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 07:48:00 - [365] geez, titans can shot?
Uglyone Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.10.03 09:16:00 - [366] in 2-3 years from now there will be just a few cool guys that can say "i got nuked by the first titans first shot in anger".

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.03 09:45:00 - [367] Cleaned up thread a little, please can i remind everyone that if you wish to post in CAOD threads that you need you corporation and/or allaince ticked in your Forum Settings or the post will be removed and forum warnings may be issued. Please also keep the posts civil. Thanks Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ____ forum rules \| [email protected]

Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.03 09:45:00 - [368] EvE forums have always been a thousand little soapboxes for the emotionally invested. EvE is essentially about PvP, and right now it's PvP between BoB and ASCN... why people who aren't even involved hop on the flaming bandwagon are beyond me but they pay subscription too so meh. Anyway... On topic: ASCN fired the superweapon and got lackluster results. I really don't think this is an issue - it was the first time something like this has ever happened so it's not like a grand failure, more of a "proof of concept". Next time will likely be different. However, BoB knew going in what they'd be up against so probably won't even have to change their tactics, just pay more attention. In the end, gratz are in order to both sides: ASCN for being the first to do it, and BoB for getting away relatively unscathed... this time.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.03 10:03:00 - [369] This whole "It has nothing to do with you so why are you posting?" debate is rather silly. You bring this information to a public forum and expect people not to talk about it? Then why don't you march your arses to the BoB or the ASCN forums and have the argument in the public lobby there? Aye, thought so. Originally by: Some Manc scally If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Slender Brenda Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 10:11:00 - [370] Originally by: welsh wizard This whole "It has nothing to do with you so why are you posting?" debate is rather silly. You bring this information to a public forum and expect people not to talk about it? Then why don't you march your arses to the BoB or the ASCN forums and have the argument in the public lobby there? Aye, thought so. Considering Bitter Dog experience on BoB affairs, ASCN should hire him for military adviser. I do realize this is public forum, but third party whining

dghdfgh	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:23:00 - [371] Edited by: dghdfgh on 03/10/2006 11:22:55
Karunel Nuevos Horizontes	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:24:00 - [372] Quote: To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. That's quite a fatality imo. ^^ Still, I find the amount of BoB flamage in here a bit disgusting more so considering that you were supossed to be hit by the superweapon (wasn't it supossed to hit everything in grid?) and didn't not because of CYVOK's fault but the game's. Feel free to correct me if I got it wrong, otherwise keep getting footage for some awesome yarrrmovie.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:32:00 - [373] Originally by: welsh wizard This whole "It has nothing to do with you so why are you posting?" debate is rather silly. You bring this information to a public forum and expect people not to talk about it? Then why don't you march your arses to the BoB or the ASCN forums and have the argument in the public lobby there? Aye, thought so. Does word "subject" ring any bell? Anyway...better fraps regarding DD will be there sooner or later. I just hope I will be part of it ...one way or the highway with a pod Discussing moderation in your signature is bad. Don't do it- Tirg Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:12:00 - [374] Originally by: Princess Alvilda Originally by: Beringe Originally by: Princess Alvilda Originally by: Nez Perces As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing. [edit: mistake in quote author] why? wth do they win by forum warfare? you should really play the game more and stay less on the forum. Morale, for one. And appearing strong dissuades would-be bandwagoners. There's more reasons. Ignore the psychological and diplomatic aspect of warfare at your own peril. if you need morale of a games forum to be able to shoot at a few pixels... you might be a junkie. Said "Junkies" are who made this game so great ya know -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Maj Kreken The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:33:00 - [375] Edited by: Maj Kreken on 03/10/2006 12:33:57 Originally by: Nez Perces snip I going out on a limb here because I do not know this for certain... but as far as I am aware BoB have never had a POS taken down or an outpost or a player conquerable station taken off them, since they finished killing FA. I'm not going to go into why this has never happened.. but that alone is pretty impressive. I don't think another alliance out there can actually say that. If somebody can remember a BoB POS/outpost/conquerable station being taken off them... ill be happy to be corrected. BoB has lost one POS (that I know of)sometime in the beginning of the year to a relatively small corp while they were blobbing in hacks somewhere else. There was a thread about it too. Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:36:00 - [376] Originally by: Slender Brenda Originally by: welsh wizard This whole "It has nothing to do with you so why are you posting?" debate is rather silly. You bring this information to a public forum and expect people not to talk about it? Then why don't you march your arses to the BoB or the ASCN forums and have the argument in the public lobby there? Aye, thought so. Considering Bitter Dog experience on BoB affairs, ASCN should hire him for military adviser. I do realize this is public forum, but third party whining I'm sure if I was posting in support of your alliance your attitiude would be quite different. If you don't like public debate, keep your egomanical posts out a public discussion forum. End of.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:41:00 - [377] Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/10/2006 12:41:51 Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Butter Dog More of the same crap.... again Lol Holy crap, someone figured out we're arrogant and wants to point it out as a public service. Man... I am sure glad you came along to post the same drivel 42201 times... cuz untill you did, everyone thought we were humble. lol at j00. I hereby promote you one rank in the BoB Tinfoil hat Society. DING grats! p.s. - Facts are are not facts because you heard someone say something once somewhere passing thru Jita. lol Just listen to yourself. You are like a stuck record. I put forward perfectly reasoned posts, with examples, with evidence. Rather than respond to this in an equally reasoned and intelligent way, all you do is the same tired old 'omg stfu fanboi nub' type post. Its really very predicatable, which is what makes you guys so funny. Do keep it up, we're all enjoying this very much. I will resist the temptation to stoop to your level, though you are welcome to try and bring yourself up to mine. If you can. edited: spelling
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:42:00 - [378] Originally by: Maj Kreken Edited by: Maj Kreken on 03/10/2006 12:33:57 Originally by: Nez Perces snip I going out on a limb here because I do not know this for certain... but as far as I am aware BoB have never had a POS taken down or an outpost or a player conquerable station taken off them, since they finished killing FA. I'm not going to go into why this has never happened.. but that alone is pretty impressive. I don't think another alliance out there can actually say that. If somebody can remember a BoB POS/outpost/conquerable station being taken off them... ill be happy to be corrected. BoB has lost one POS (that I know of)sometime in the beginning of the year to a relatively small corp while they were blobbing in hacks somewhere else. There was a thread about it too. No the Pos structure survived, however the anchored structures around it did not, they were all destroyed when the POS went offline.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:51:00 - [379] Originally by: Rebellion To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. Have a nice day. Fine. Lets have it then. Educate me. Clearly I am missing something very important, as is the rest of the EVE community. Tell me why your alliance is superior to D2. Tell me what makes you better PvPers than CELES. Give examples, go into detail. Please, go right ahead and justify your arrogance while comparing yourself to an (in my opinion) superior Alliance like D2. Go on... we're all waiting for your intelligent and reasoned response. Or, as I suspsect, are you going to come back with some more 'omg stfu fanboi' smack and go quiet on the issue? Yes, thought so.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:52:00 - [380] To all those Fan boi's let me recap the OP's post, this is about the doomsday device that was effectively used by Cyvok during our engagement in AZN-. All i can say is a mis-judgement was made on cyvok's part as to where the bob fleet will be warping, otherwise it was would have been a perfectly excuted plan. If the bob fleet FC did not order to warp to a grid load point, well we won't be in AZN anymore with ships To the ASCN pilots, keep fighting you are doing exactly what a passionate alliance would do for their region. BoB has its goals and reason's and ASCN you have yours. To the rest of you who have nothing to do with this war, you have your opinion's and speculations. To the bob pilots, you are doing an awesome job, glad to fly with everyone of you. Now lets get back to the killage. As far as i can see this thread has gone its course, i am sure a mod will agree...just too much flaming:

CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:54:00 - [381] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rebellion To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. Have a nice day. Fine. Lets have it then. Educate me. Clearly I am missing something very important, as is the rest of the EVE community. Tell me why your alliance is superior to D2. Tell me what makes you better PvPers than CELES. Give examples, go into detail. Please, go right ahead and justify your arrogance while comparing yourself to an (in my opinion) superior Alliance like D2. Go on... we're all waiting for your intelligent and reasoned response. Or, as I suspsect, are you going to come back with some more 'omg stfu fanboi' smack and go quiet on the issue? Yes, thought so. Butter Dog, i could not careless if you love D2, -V- or any other alliance, you clearly do not like us, and tbh i could not careless. You hatred is noted and please stop derailing this thread.
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:56:00 - [382] Originally by: Butter Dog Just listen to yourself. You are like a stuck record. I put forward perfectly reasoned posts, with examples, with evidence. They are your opinions, hardly evidence. Yes, you are allowed to have your opinions, just like everyone else. Quote: Do keep it up, we're all enjoying this very much. Who is we? Are you trying to tell you speak for the rest of eve community who read this forum? Quote: I will resist the temptation to stoop to your level, though you are welcome to try and bring yourself up to mine. If you can. Personal attack 4tw. Didn't you just whine in every single post about such things? Yea, you did. -- Nobody stays behind
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 12:59:00 - [383] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Butter Dog, i could not careless if you love D2, -V- or any other alliance, you clearly do not like us, and tbh i could not careless. You hatred is noted and please stop derailing this thread. Incorrect, my friend. I do not hate BoB. I have stated on several occasions that you are clearly excellent PvPers. I have also stated that you set yourself goals which you then achieve. I like anyone else will have nothing but respect for this. What I have an issue with, is your arrogant assertion that you are somehow better than anyone else. Clearly this is not the case, but it is the opinion you voice on these forums. Much to your discredit.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:05:00 - [384] Originally by: Cyleth Quote: I will resist the temptation to stoop to your level, though you are welcome to try and bring yourself up to mine. If you can. Personal attack 4tw. Didn't you just whine in every single post about such things? Yea, you did. Yes, such a vicious 'personal attack' (lol). I await the mods to ban me with baited breath. I mean, its not like they havent deleted about 12 posts from your alliance members which really were personal flames against me (and certainly not at my request). Funny. Keep it up.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:09:00 - [385] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Butter Dog, i could not careless if you love D2, -V- or any other alliance, you clearly do not like us, and tbh i could not careless. You hatred is noted and please stop derailing this thread. Incorrect, my friend. I do not hate BoB. I have stated on several occasions that you are clearly excellent PvPers. I have also stated that you set yourself goals which you then achieve. I like anyone else will have nothing but respect for this. What I have an issue with, is your arrogant assertion that you are somehow better than anyone else. Clearly this is not the case, but it is the opinion you voice on these forums. Much to your discredit. As much as you are allowed to have an opinion on these boards and suggestions, we are allowed to have our ego's and arrogance. So i cannot see anymore of your posts telling us we have arrogance and what not change any bob pilots attitude and posts on these forums as long as eve exists. So ultimately your arguments are fruitless and you are just wanting to either quench your thirst for unproductive arguments on subjects that will not change against BoB as whole or you are just bitter?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:15:00 - [386] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 As much as you are allowed to have an opinion on these boards and suggestions, we are allowed to have our ego's and arrogance. So i cannot see anymore of your posts telling us we have arrogance and what not change any bob pilots attitude and posts on these forums as long as eve exists. So ultimately your arguments are fruitless and you are just wanting to either quench your thirst for unproductive arguments on subjects that will not change against BoB as whole or you are just bitter? I post because I enjoy doing so. I believe my arguements are reasoned and have merit. Juding by the amount of in-game mail I have recieved from various individuals thanking me for these posts, I'd say they are having the desired effect. I like to punctuate your ego-driven posts with a dose of reality. Despite your arrogant and condescending attitude, you are no better than anyone else. Does that mean you arent great PvPers? Of course not. It just means that, at the end of the day, you're nothing special. Thats it, really. I'll leave this thread in peace now, I really must actually do some work at work for a change
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:15:00 - [387] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Cyleth Quote: I will resist the temptation to stoop to your level, though you are welcome to try and bring yourself up to mine. If you can. Personal attack 4tw. Didn't you just whine in every single post about such things? Yea, you did. Yes, such a vicious 'personal attack' (lol). I await the mods to ban me with baited breath. I mean, its not like they havent deleted about 12 posts from your alliance members which really were personal flames against me (and certainly not at my request). Funny. Keep it up. Just shows your hypocrisy. Nuff said. -- Nobody stays behind
King Leonidas Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:17:00 - [388] Edited by: King Leonidas on 03/10/2006 13:17:08 Originally by: Butter Dog Thats it, really. I'll leave this thread in peace now, I really must actually do some work at work for a change Pity you hadn't done that 4 pages and two threads ago, mr irrelevant. King
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:17:00 - [389] Originally by: Butter Dog Thats it, really. I'll leave this thread in peace now, I really must actually do some work at work for a change Good. Your spammage is getting tiresome.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:18:00 - [390] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Butter Dog Thats it, really. I'll leave this thread in peace now, I really must actually do some work at work for a change Good. Your spammage is getting tiresome. Of course, I could always not do any work

Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:27:00 - [391] ButterDog@... With this many posts on forum lately you could at least learn to put many quotes in to only one post...instead of posting 80% per page Discussing moderation in your signature is bad. Don't do it- Tirg Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:32:00 - [392] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 As much as you are allowed to have an opinion on these boards and suggestions, we are allowed to have our ego's and arrogance. So i cannot see anymore of your posts telling us we have arrogance and what not change any bob pilots attitude and posts on these forums as long as eve exists. So ultimately your arguments are fruitless and you are just wanting to either quench your thirst for unproductive arguments on subjects that will not change against BoB as whole or you are just bitter? I post because I enjoy doing so. I believe my arguements are reasoned and have merit. Juding by the amount of in-game mail I have recieved from various individuals thanking me for these posts, I'd say they are having the desired effect. I like to punctuate your ego-driven posts with a dose of reality. Despite your arrogant and condescending attitude, you are no better than anyone else. Does that mean you arent great PvPers? Of course not. It just means that, at the end of the day, you're nothing special. Thats it, really. I'll leave this thread in peace now, I really must actually do some work at work for a change Good on you and i don;t think any of my fellow bob pilots care. You are very bitter individual which clearly shows on all your previous posts. Condesecending just LOL!!! Your understanding of BoB has already been solidly stuck to your head as arrogant <insert more insults> pilots. What we have achieved is for us to know and be very very proud about and i can tell you this much i will always be a BoB pilot, your accusations will never change that and i can say that the same applies to every bob pilot. End of the day we in BoB have seen people like you on these forums time and time again nothing will change that.You may have got mails from other eve players about your responses here, however a whole alliance is laughing at you not with you.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:47:00 - [393] Edited by: Rikeka on 03/10/2006 13:47:25 I hate BoB and I`m not posting all that stuff about them. Hate them as much as a virtual character can hate other virtual character, ofc. As this is just a game, who cares we all hate others: No matter how many times they kill me, my traning is not hampered! (take that WOW/Lineage!) /emote makes the ¿Dance of Victory¿ Plus, the word ¿Hate¿ on a game is a serious reason to visit the shrink. I hate BoB but I hate more the new kid that brings the newspapers: He always throw them to the middle of the garden, and it`s raining and it`s damn cold outside... No real world news for me today then... I pay the neighbor`s son 10 buck every week he leaves toys and crap in the sidewalk, just for the chance to make the bastard fall. 10 for every fall as a bonus. Payed 30 bucks just this last week. They must have an agreement of something, no one is that spaz... Now... would I hire this kid to deflate SirMolle`s car tires? No! (would cost me more than 10 bucks, and I`m saving for my pills) Disclaimer: I know: I seriously changed the topic, but this thread died 10 pages ago anyway. Sue me.
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:47:00 - [394] Originally by: King Leonidas Edited by: King Leonidas on 03/10/2006 13:17:08 Pity you hadn't done that 4 pages and two threads ago, mr irrelevant. King I have refrained from posting thus far because none of this has anything to do with me. However the last comment I quote here has stooped to such a childish level, that I feel the 'discussion' has reached a point where my contribution is warranted, mr. ****ypants I have to say this thread has been immensely entertaining. Nothing more amusing than hearing of people's online 'achievements'; discussed with such gusto and self-importance too. Long may this foot-stamping, hand-waving, and dummy-throwing continue. Nothing is more entertaining to me and the many non-posting observers here, than watching grown men act like three year olds. All of you, please, keep it coming. Far more interesting than your highly uninteresting war or untold pvp skills are your highly colourful personalities. Very few who have posted in this thread come out with any personal credit whatsoever, unfortunatley myself included. However, your collective role as court jesters to the rest of the eve community, is surely much appreciated.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:50:00 - [395] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 End of the day we in BoB have seen people like you on these forums time and time again nothing will change that.You may have got mails from other eve players about your responses here, however a whole alliance is laughing at you not with you. Mate, the whole of EVE is laughing at your attitude so I really wouldn't worry about it. You go an about achievements which somehow make you better than anyone else, but you can't even quantify them. Its embaressing to watch. You can't discuss things intelligently, you just shut your ears and spout the 'omg fanboi nub, noone cares, go away' line over and over. Its not going to work this time. For every ridiculous assertion you make, the rest of EVE are simply rolling their eyes and thinking 'oh, here they go again'. Get a grip.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.03 13:52:00 - [396] Butter Dog your posting is starting to turn me on! Something I learnt a while ago.. You can make the most logical posts about something very valid and interesting but you just cant win against the army of forum warriors BoB has. You will be attacked by up a dozen people at a time until the thread goes so far off the tracks that a mod will come lock it. Thus is the cycle thsee forums. Your better off just picking up a your missile launchers or rail guns and starting the shooty shooty.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:08:00 - [397] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 End of the day we in BoB have seen people like you on these forums time and time again nothing will change that.You may have got mails from other eve players about your responses here, however a whole alliance is laughing at you not with you. Mate, the whole of EVE is laughing at your attitude so I really wouldn't worry about it. You go an about achievements which somehow make you better than anyone else, but you can't even quantify them. Its embaressing to watch. You can't discuss things intelligently, you just shut your ears and spout the 'omg fanboi nub, noone cares, go away' line over and over. Its not going to work this time. For every ridiculous assertion you make, the rest of EVE are simply rolling their eyes and thinking 'oh, here they go again'. Get a grip. First of all for a start don't ever call me a MATE. Like i told you, our achievements are for us to know and be very proud about, end off. Now please do what you promised to go away.
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:10:00 - [398] Originally by: Butter Dog Mate, the whole of EVE is laughing at your attitude so I really wouldn't worry about it. You go an about achievements which somehow make you better than anyone else, but you can't even quantify them. Its embaressing to watch. You can't discuss things intelligently, you just shut your ears and spout the 'omg fanboi nub, noone cares, go away' line over and over. Its not going to work this time. For every ridiculous assertion you make, the rest of EVE are simply rolling their eyes and thinking 'oh, here they go again'. Get a grip. When was your view that of the EvE community, have you become bloated from the EvE mails you've received? In your view a BoB member can never give a good response, it would seem were bunch of brats having a whine and a cry all over the forums, but you were apparently going to leave this thread long ago. __________________
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:11:00 - [399] Edited by: DeadDuck on 03/10/2006 14:13:00 So what is the conclusion after 14 pages ? Maybe the one that was obvious since page 2. The 1st DD blast wasnt has effective as ASCN was hopping. This was almost for sure due to inexperience managing the weapon and a good timing from BOB FC (yes I'm speculating here .. I wasnt there). What is important to keep from this tread is that ASCN is actually on the mood to bring the Titan to battle. We all know that the Titan only has to make ONE good blast to a entire fleet disapear... ASCN can miss several times the target, BOB can not afford to make a single error in fleet movements when the Titan is on the same system, if they do disaster is around the corner.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:11:00 - [400] Originally by: Mah Kraah most interesting fact is that DD have a speciffic range and dont fill the whole grid as promissed. the bob fleet was sitting in grid to load it(posted and confirmed by BoB at p1) when it was activated and they where NOT affected. as for poor performance... nooe has experiance with it and it was told that it affects the whole grid when it was introduced , bob fleet was in grid so ascn did nothing wrong, they just learned about the real behavior of the device. after all this device is not a easy to use one, it requires extended planing and timing, we will see alot more faild atempts or "poor" results. best news: it does not crash the node :-) !! Aye that it did not do ..All i saw was cyno and a blinding light on my screen, thought that was it. we are all dead..hehehe. Must be something to do with it coming through a cyno field that affects or limits it to a certain range as such.

CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:16:00 - [401] Originally by: DeadDuck So what is the conclusion after 14 pages ? Maybe the one that was obvious since page 2. The 1st DD blast wasnt has effective as ASCN was hopping. This was almost for sure due to inexperience managing the weapon and a good timing from BOB FC (yes I'm speculating here .. I wasnt there). What is important to keep from this tread is that ASCN is actually on the mood to bring the Titan to battle. We all know that the Titan only has to make ONE good blast to a entire fleet disapear... ASCN can miss several times the target, BOB can not afford to make a single error in fleet movements when the Titan is on the same system. You are absolutely right about the fleet movements, knowing a Titan is in local puts a lot of thought into how a BoB FC can call the engagement, and tbh Cyvok and his FC's could not have anticipated our fleet warp in, they fired the weapon on possiblities which included on how the fleet warped in to engage prior to making the choice to use the weapon. Tell you one thing, its was a scary sight and all i heard on ts was OMG OMG OMG TAKE US OUT NOW
purfleet M. Corp	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:29:00 - [402] 3 out of 4 posts on this page so far are from bob members.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 14:49:00 - [403] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 03/10/2006 14:49:13 Originally by: DeadDuck So what is the conclusion after 14 pages ? that page 14 was just as useless as page one through twelve but not just as useless as page 15 is going to be ? Or that I shouldn't have gone away for a month, making me miss all the good stuff leading up to this ? As far as I can see the last week has just been the setting of the stage. We're simply getting the actors in place, setting the mood and identifying the co-actors on the other side. One shouldn't mistake the introductory movements for the real play. And if Butter Dog and the others that have stepped up as our newfound forum friends in this act are any indication, the play is going to be damn fun edit: oh, did I just make it 4 out of 6 Old blog
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:07:00 - [404] Originally by: Butter Dog Just listen to yourself. You are like a stuck record. Says the guy who has posted the same thing 40 times in the last few days. Quote: I put forward perfectly reasoned posts, with examples, with evidence. bull** You point out your opinion and tout it as fact. Quote: Rather than respond to this in an equally reasoned and intelligent way, all you do is the same tired old 'omg stfu fanboi nub' Never told you to stfu lol. I asked you to keep posting. I find your lack of imagination and inability to grasp one over riding point amusing. I find you being upset at BoB's arrogance amusing. I find you expecting us to sit down and defend our alliance actions, battleplans, and achievement to you, as if YOU MATTER very amusing. Quote:** I will resist the temptation to stoop to your level, though you are welcome to try and bring yourself up to mine. Hmm. Someone who cries incessently about ego and arrogance being.... arrogant! GASP Shall I question you about every action you have taken in game since beta to see if you have the right to be arrogant? Yeah thought so. Leftist hippocrite gameplan if I ever saw one. We are arrogant. We have achieved much. We will achieve more. Nothing we have done, nor will ever do will dissuade those who dislike us. They simply spin and find something else to complain about. IE - fanbois like you. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:09:00 - [405] The thing I find annoying about Butter Dog is that in his desperate need to put BoB down he serves only to insult the other alliances in Eve. If BoB are "nothing special", what does that say about the alliances that do not control 4 regions, or do not have a strong PvP structure, or do not have a huge TII industry? That they are somehow sub-standard? Which alliances would you say are "special", and for what reasons specifically? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:18:00 - [406] I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members?
Red Gabba Minmatar Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:19:00 - [407] 1 page dedicated to the fireing of a bloody big gun, 14 pages dedicated to brain mashing nothing... Kudos for trying the thing out, we now know that the doomsday device kills very little but will make a long long thread appear...
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:21:00 - [408] Edited by: Raid on 03/10/2006 15:24:11 Originally by: ProphetGuru as if YOU MATTER Originally by: ProphetGuru We are arrogant. We have achieved much. We will achieve more. Nothing we have done, nor will ever do will dissuade those who dislike us. They simply spin and find something else to complain about. IE - fanbois like you. Arrogance is one thing... Theres a lot of people in this game who are arrogant. I think its more the general disrespect shown to people who disagree with you that is the most disturbing part of all this. Telling someone they "dont matter" or are "fanbois" is disrespectful. But hey, what do I know, I tend to not agree with you guys.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:24:00 - [409] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? Dunno, any ideas?
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:26:00 - [410] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? The fact that the Superweapon did not function as expected does not make BoB's story untrue, and extrapolating that it means BoB are misconstruing the facts is fantasy, bordering on delusion. We have the written reports of the events from both sides, and screenshots, what more do you want? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:30:00 - [411] Edited by: Turkantho on 03/10/2006 15:30:50 Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? afaik the "real grid" is smaller than what you see on your screen, I was told that even when your EVE Client says you hit the hostile BS @220k or more in "reallity" you didn't hit it, thats one reason why the devs are thinking about nerfing the weapon ranges imho nerfing the 100% range bonus on t2 long range ammo into a 50% would suffice but thats just my idea ________ Asgar[D]¦
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:49:00 - [412] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Hawkings SJ "The Pendulum Swings. We stated XXX months ago that we would be coming to ASCN space to sharpen our skills and practice our alliance warfare. We were prepared for the lag, for the massive ASCN fleets, and for the Doomsday devices. We have destroyed XXX ASCN battleships in the past XXX months, taken XXX Outposts and now control all of XXX, XXX & XXX region. As of today all meaningful resistance in ASCN space has ceased. Now the pendulum swings the other way, BoB is leaving ASCN space. We are keeping Paragon Soul. (insert cool-sounding catch word/phrase)" Hope you don't mind but I am going to keep that for future use, it'll save us some typing No problem at all! Just be sure to quote me....royalties can be paid in Caldari Motherships....I hear BoB has a few extra's lying around.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:51:00 - [413] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 First of all for a start don't ever call me a MATE. Hehe. Sorry, mate.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:54:00 - [414] Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 03/10/2006 15:54:03 Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 03/10/2006 15:30:50 Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? afaik the "real grid" is smaller than what you see on your screen, I was told that even when your EVE Client says you hit the hostile BS @220k or more in "reallity" you didn't hit it, thats one reason why the devs are thinking about nerfing the weapon ranges imho nerfing the 100% range bonus on t2 long range ammo into a 50% would suffice but thats just my idea Increase tech 2 beam ranges cos it sucks
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:55:00 - [415] Originally by: Avon The thing I find annoying about Butter Dog is that in his desperate need to put BoB down he serves only to insult the other alliances in Eve. If BoB are "nothing special", what does that say about the alliances that do not control 4 regions, or do not have a strong PvP structure, or do not have a huge TII industry? That they are somehow sub-standard? Which alliances would you say are "special", and for what reasons specifically? Nice attempt to twist my words, I give it a 4/10. I have clearly started that you are excellent PvPers and that you work toward achieving your goals. That, by anyones standards, is not a put down. The issue at stake here, is the unbearable arrogance and ridiculous superiority complex you guys have. It is comical, but at the same time mildy disturbing. You can't justify it. You're little more than egomaniacs, and yet you have nothing substantial to back up your claim to be better than everyone else up. You standard line is 'omg fanboi nub', which means precisely nothing in the context of a debate on the forums. Grow up.
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.03 15:56:00 - [416] Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 03/10/2006 15:30:50 Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? afaik the "real grid" is smaller than what you see on your screen, I was told that even when your EVE Client says you hit the hostile BS @220k or more in "reallity" you didn't hit it, thats one reason why the devs are thinking about nerfing the weapon ranges imho nerfing the 100% range bonus on t2 long range ammo into a 50% would suffice but thats just my idea I thought the purpose of the grid was to define what you see, to enable server optimizations and lessen the load. And I am sure CCP said that the titans superweapon would affect the whole grid. Which means that a grid loading warpin point would be just as unsafe as right clicking the titan and warp to 15km.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:04:00 - [417] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Avon The thing I find annoying about Butter Dog is that in his desperate need to put BoB down he serves only to insult the other alliances in Eve. If BoB are "nothing special", what does that say about the alliances that do not control 4 regions, or do not have a strong PvP structure, or do not have a huge TII industry? That they are somehow sub-standard? Which alliances would you say are "special", and for what reasons specifically? Nice attempt to twist my words, I give it a 4/10. I have clearly started that you are excellent PvPers and that you work toward achieving your goals. That, by anyones standards, is not a put down. The issue at stake here, is the unbearable arrogance and ridiculous superiority complex you guys have. It is comical, but at the same time mildy disturbing. You can't justify it. You're little more than egomaniacs, and yet you have nothing substantial to back up your claim to be better than everyone else up. You standard line is 'omg fanboi nub', which means precisely nothing in the context of a debate on the forums. Grow up. But we can justify it. We have 4 regions, a formidable PvP force (pilots and ships), deep pockets, motivation, strong industry, superb logistics. Other alliances may be on par with us on some of those aspects, but we are the complete package. Maybe we do seem arrogant to you, but that is probably just your inferiority complex distorting your view. It is all a matter of perspective I guess. There are many people who are not in BoB who I treat very much as my equal. How about you let me know all the things you have achieved in the game so I can better judge you? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:06:00 - [418] Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 03/10/2006 15:30:50 Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? afaik the "real grid" is smaller than what you see on your screen, I was told that even when your EVE Client says you hit the hostile BS @220k or more in "reallity" you didn't hit it, thats one reason why the devs are thinking about nerfing the weapon ranges imho nerfing the 100% range bonus on t2 long range ammo into a 50% would suffice but thats just my idea I thought the purpose of the grid was to define what you see, to enable server optimizations and lessen the load. And I am sure CCP said that the titans superweapon would affect the whole grid. Which means that a grid loading warpin point would be just as unsafe as right clicking the titan and warp to 15km. and tahts what I was under the impression of. But I seen the bright white light and still seen my ship after the light.. so that is just not the case.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:12:00 - [419] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rebellion To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. Have a nice day. Fine. Lets have it then. Educate me. Clearly I am missing something very important, as is the rest of the EVE community. Tell me why your alliance is superior to D2. Tell me what makes you better PvPers than CELES. Give examples, go into detail. Please, go right ahead and justify your arrogance while comparing yourself to an (in my opinion) superior Alliance like D2. Go on... we're all waiting for your intelligent and reasoned response. Or, as I suspsect, are you going to come back with some more 'omg stfu fanboi' smack and go quiet on the issue? Yes, thought so. Reikoku Histories Start with part 13 to get into the lead up to the GNW and the BoB sections. C'mon man you're wasting your time. We don't much care if you love us hate us or want us wiped from the face of EVE forever. So you can keep going on and on and on and on about how arogant we are and whatever else. I'm sure some of the lads find you annoying and whatnot but personally i just think you're funny. Bit obsessive maybe but funny nonetheless. I always did have a softspot for loudmouth forum nobodies though. --------------
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:15:00 - [420] You broke your link coranor. RKK History That reminds me that I need to update with the Second PVP Championship win at some point. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:15:00 - [421] Originally by: ponieus and tahts what I was under the impression of. But I seen the bright white light and still seen my ship after the light.. so that is just not the case.. Many of our guys were in warp at the time, too, so maybe it doesn't affect those in that state of flight? Needs more testing that is for sure.
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:20:00 - [422] Yeah but you're gonna wait 6 months and then splurgw with like 5 updates in a day or so like you always do. --------------
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:23:00 - [423] Edited by: DB Preacher on 03/10/2006 16:24:40 Yeah prolly. Might need to after all this jiggery pokery ;) I'm sure the first splurging of a titan will make a post all by itself :D dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:40:00 - [424] Originally by: Butter Dog The issue at stake here, is the unbearable arrogance and ridiculous superiority complex you guys have. No actually the issue at stake is defined by the thread starter, which in this case was the first firing of a doomsday weapon.. Ur opinions on other topics, no matter how well or poorly argued are always going to be irrelevant within this context.. >: )
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:40:00 - [425] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 03/10/2006 15:30:50 Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle I am curious, if BoB warped its fleet to a grid loading point, then why didnt the doomsday weapon reach them? They cant load the grid from another grid, after all! Am i really the only one who thought about this lapse of logic in some explanations from BoB members? afaik the "real grid" is smaller than what you see on your screen, I was told that even when your EVE Client says you hit the hostile BS @220k or more in "reallity" you didn't hit it, thats one reason why the devs are thinking about nerfing the weapon ranges imho nerfing the 100% range bonus on t2 long range ammo into a 50% would suffice but thats just my idea I thought the purpose of the grid was to define what you see, to enable server optimizations and lessen the load. And I am sure CCP said that the titans superweapon would affect the whole grid. Which means that a grid loading warpin point would be just as unsafe as right clicking the titan and warp to 15km. and tahts what I was under the impression of. But I seen the bright white light and still seen my ship after the light.. so that is just not the case.. true but then how do you explain some things I've experianced, as example being at 120k to a station, seeing the station and cans popping up but no ships, none at all, moving closer to said station, and suddenly I get massive load lag and ships appear, and some of them between me and the station...makes you wonder doesn't it ? ________ Asgar[D]¦
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:46:00 - [426] The DB hast posteth! Hi m8 You peeps got a good thread going on here... and now I'm in it! (fanboi extraordinaire)
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 16:46:00 - [427] Turkantho if you watched one of Farjung's movies can't remember which one, but in there, was a scene about a dominix mining just off grid by a few km. And then in that same scene a stiletto kept going out of grid just by a few 100m's? How do you explain this, well i guess we await a GM's explanation.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:13:00 - [428] Turkantho, eing outside the grid does not mean that you can not see a station model in a nearby grid anymore. It used to (station would be reduced to just the icon as soon as you left the grid), but for some reason you can be outside the station grid, as close as 200km to it for example, yet see the station model as clear as if you were only 10km away from it. Grids aren't always centered right, and ever since you can't simply judge what grid you are in by absence of the station or gate models anymore (at least not consistently), you can't be sure of being in the right grid, unless you see ships that you know are in the right grid. An example is the third of fourth station in S-U in syndicate. I've got a nice spot for my eagle not 200km from it's exit in a direction where the gridline seems to be at only 100-150km. I can see the station structure, maybe I can even lock it (havent tried actually). I can see some cans around it sometimes, but I will never seen a ship exiting it untill I move to another spot in the right grid. Pretty damn annoying, and prtty damn funny noticing 10 snipers in such a spot thinking they're camping the station There's many grids like that in Eve. Old blog
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:25:00 - [429] Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:28:16 Originally by: Butter Dog You can't justify it. You're little more than egomaniacs, and yet you have nothing substantial to back up your claim to be better than everyone else up. .. sigh... Butter Dog about 10 posts back I suggested something that BoB had achieved that no other had.... you ofc ignored my post because it robs your argument of its main point, i.e the lack of evidence. Nobody can yet remember destroying/capturing a single BoB POS/Conquerable station/Outpost since the fall of FA. There seems to be one report of a POS going into reinforced, but never destroyed. That is a substantial achievement. No other alliance can say this..... LV have had trouble with RA, D2 with Goons/TCF and ASCN had trouble with Iron/G a while back. So where is your argument now?.. thats right, you don't have one. You don't have a point anymore as I have presented a reason for BoB to feel superior and you don't even dislike BoB as you keep telling us. Why oh why do you keep posting then?.. if you wanna keep posting at least do us the common curtesy of having a relevant point. Cause, right now all you are doing is spamming.....
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:29:00 - [430] Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/10/2006 17:31:40 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Butter Dog You can't justify it. You're little more than egomaniacs, and yet you have nothing substantial to back up your claim to be better than everyone else up. .. sigh... Butter Dog about 10 posts back I suggested something that BoB had achieved that no other had.... you ofc ignored my post because it robs your argument of its main point, i.e the lack of evidence. Nobody can yet remember destroying/capturing a single BoB POS/Conquerable station/Outpost. There seems to be one report of a POS going into reinforced, but never destroyed. That is a substantial achievement. No other alliance can say this..... LV have had trouble with RA, D2 with Goons/TCF and ASCN had trouble with Iron/G a while back. So where is your argument now?.. thats right, you don't have one. You don't have a point anymore as I have presented a reason for BoB to feel superior and you don't even dislike BoB as you keep telling us. Why oh why do you keep posting then?.. if you wanna keep posting at least do us the common curtesy of having a relevant point. Cause, right now all you are doing is spamming..... I'm sorry, but you're grasping at straws here. I do not consider that a major achievement which proves they are the best PVPers in the game. Its a ridiculous claim to make. I didn't respond simply because it didnt, in all honesty, merit a response. In fact, all it provides evidence for is that a capable PvP entity has yet to lay seige to one of their systems. This is true, but means nothing in itself. Yes, other alliances have lost POS etc. That happens when you pick on good PvP targets and not Industrial Alliances or 'Aridia Locals'.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:34:00 - [431] Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:34:28 Originally by: Butter Dog In fact, all it provides evidence for is that a capable PvP entity has yet to lay seige to one of their systems. This is true, but means nothing in itself. How you can say that with a straight face is beyond me...
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:37:00 - [432] Edited by: Butter Dog on 03/10/2006 17:37:43 Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:34:28 Originally by: Butter Dog In fact, all it provides evidence for is that a capable PvP entity has yet to lay seige to one of their systems. This is true, but means nothing in itself. How you can say that with a straight face is beyond me... Well you really should have quoted the rest of my paragraph for why I think that.
Val Oman Delta Desperados	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:37:00 - [433] You guys should really take this to Eve-mail or something. This thread is about the first firing of a doomsday device is it not?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:37:00 - [434] Originally by: Coranor Edited by: Coranor on 03/10/2006 16:18:33 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rebellion To put things simply, Butter_Dog, you don't see any reason for BoB's arrogance because of a combination of factors: 1. you don't know what we've done from the beginning; 2. the people you talk to don't know either; 3. a lot of the people that know what happened are either (a) already in BoB (b) no longer around (c) are still around but hate us too much to give us kudos; 3. we don't really care what you think. Have a nice day. Fine. Lets have it then. Educate me. Clearly I am missing something very important, as is the rest of the EVE community. Tell me why your alliance is superior to D2. Tell me what makes you better PvPers than CELES. Give examples, go into detail. Please, go right ahead and justify your arrogance while comparing yourself to an (in my opinion) superior Alliance like D2. Go on... we're all waiting for your intelligent and reasoned response. Or, as I suspsect, are you going to come back with some more 'omg stfu fanboi' smack and go quiet on the issue? Yes, thought so. Reikoku Histories Start with part 13 to get into the lead up to the GNW and the BoB sections. C'mon man you're wasting your time. We don't much care if you love us hate us or want us wiped from the face of EVE forever. So you can keep going on and on and on and on about how arogant we are and whatever else. I'm sure some of the lads find you annoying and whatnot but personally i just think you're funny. Bit obsessive maybe but funny nonetheless. I always did have a softspot for loudmouth forum nobodies though. Yes, a lovely ego-massaging read that must be for you too. Unfortunately, once again, you have failed to provide any evidence of being 'better' than any other top-tier PvP alliances. Honestly, I'm not saying you guys arent good at what you do. What I am saying is that your attitude sucks, and that there are alliances which have stronger industry, better kill/loss stats, and more ambitious goals. Its not hard to understand, but you are clearly having issues adjusting to that reality.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:41:00 - [435] Personally Butter Dog, I think we do have a right to be arrogant. You see, noone is capable of proving us wrong in taking that attitude. Hell, most groups that might are too afraid to even try. We're not saying we're the best pvp'ers out there, nor the best industrialist, not even the best forum *****s. We're the best overall alliance however, that I am unafraid to state. The main difference may be very simple. In contrast to every single other alliance out there that can possibly say to have achieved as much as we have, we are not above all else afraid of losing all we have built. Our actions aren't dictated by fear but by the ambition to be the most powerfull group in this galaxy. If that means taking risks then we will, but it definately sets us apart from the rest. Old blog
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:43:00 - [436] Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:43:44 Originally by: Butter Dog Unfortunately, once again, you have failed to provide any evidence of being 'better' than any other top-tier PvP alliances. being 'better' than other people is subjective butter dog.. I have been in leadership positions in two alliances and I can categorically tell you that BoB are an important factor in any military considerations... When looking to identify a target for your alliance, there is always somebody who provides an easier target than BoB. Wether you like it or not BoB are a formidable force and have long memories..... thats why alliances think twice before taking BoB on, thats why there has yet to be a concerted offence on their holdings. If you don't understand that, then you are simply here to troll... which is fine, but don't expect any credibility.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:46:00 - [437] Originally by: Rod Blaine Personally Butter Dog, I think we do have a right to be arrogant. You see, noone is capable of proving us wrong in taking that attitude. Hell, most groups that might are too afraid to even try. We're not saying we're the best pvp'ers out there, nor the best industrialist, not even the best forum *****s. We're the best overall alliance however, that I am unafraid to state. The main difference may be very simple. In contrast to every single other alliance out there that can possibly say to have achieved as much as we have, we are not above all else afraid of losing all we have built. Our actions aren't dictated by fear but by the ambition to be the most powerfull group in this galaxy. If that means taking risks then we will, but it definately sets us apart from the rest. Rod, I agree with much of what you had posted there, and I respect your opinion. If the rest of your alliance had your approach and attitide (which is considered and respectful), you would be doing yourselves a big favour. You need to reign in your forum smacktards who shout off the 'omg fanboi nub' response whenever someone dares offer an objective bit of critisicm. And let us not forget that overconfidence is a huge weakness.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:51:00 - [438] Overconfidence or understimation is determined after the fact, I'd consider us optimistic rather then overconfident really As for our attitude, I don't really agree. Most of us just take another approach to making their point, but in the end our opinions do not differ much. It's just that I enjoy stuff like this more then most others and thus am more inclined to moderate my tone when I can afford to, whereas the message is in essence the same. Old blog
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:53:00 - [439] Originally by: Nez Perces being 'better' than other people is subjective butter dog.. This is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Kind of difficult to claim to be the best, then, isnt it?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:55:00 - [440] Originally by: Butter Dog This is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Kind of difficult to claim to be the best, then, isnt it? ..equally difficult is to claim that somebody isnt the best .. wouldn't you say.. therefore you are wasting your time.


Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:59:00 - [441] This has gone hopelessly off-topic and has become a place of trolls and personal attacks. click \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|

ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.03 18:01:00 - [442] Originally by: Butter Dog You need to reign in your forum smacktards who shout off the 'omg fanboi nub' response whenever In the words of someone whose mold you seem to fit... yap yap ps man I gotta get DW in here. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.


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