People run missions in 'PvE fits' because they can. If players want that to change they should horribly exploit the holes in the fit by ganking missions runners embarrassingly (a bunch of venture taking down a BS with the appropriate drones for instance). Mission runners would rapidly change to a more PvP fit.

If players won't make other players change then why should CCP?

everything but the rapid part is true i deal with a lot of new players and every time they are ganked rather than learn from ii they do some combination of rage or thinking it wont happen again so why bother changing anything

True enough...and I just realized that what the OP wants may well be happening with the changes to come from the circadian sleeper drones scanning us and those new Drifters coming in...

PvE should require fits that would also work for PvP.
It means rats running away if not scramed, all-ewar warking on them and so on

Why on earth a new player who can bearly fly a single ship is forced to engage several factions rats who require different ships and different fits.

So for gods sake can please make a tutorial that is both detailed, user-friendly and entertaining at the same time?

... bring a mobile depot?

People run missions in 'PvE fits' because they can. If players want that to change they should horribly exploit the holes in the fit by ganking missions runners embarrassingly (a bunch of venture taking down a BS with the appropriate drones for instance). Mission runners would rapidly change to a more PvP fit.

If players won't make other players change then why should CCP?

Flawed argument. People use PvE fits for the same reason people use PvP fits, because that is what it is optimal for. To use a PvP fit in PvE would gimp your activities as much as using a PvE fit in PvP. It is a poor solution for a real problem.

And CCP are the developers of the game for which they are paid for. CCP should make changes to better the game, other players have no such obligation.

So what is really happening is that the vast majority of mission runners stay in high sec to avoid getting ganked by someone with a fit made for PvP, where as they are fit for PvE.

Flawed argument from yourself, the PvE fit would no longer be optimal if other people kept destroying a ship fit in such a way. Either bringing friends or a mobile depot or simply flying fit for PvP would become optimal instead.

As you say people are in hisec in PvE fits to avoid being killed by players fit for PvE. My point was that this actually makes it easy for those players who dislike this to do something about it.

The assumption that players would engage in PvP if they also used PvP fits for PvE is a daft one. Players that don't PvP are not likely to start just because the same fits are required for missions.

I agree it is silly that a single ship can kill a hundred red crosses, but this is a game, and grinding individual targets is boring.

Burner missions are almost what you are asking for, but since players know what they are engaging first, they can pick a ship with a favourable natural resistance profile, suitable speed and engagement range. They can even select the best ammo.

If mission AI perfectly resmebled other players and PvP fits were required to beat them, why then would someone go to PvP an actual player, where their loss mail would be published on a kill board hurting their epeen?

But I also believe that there are many more people who have a psychic barrier which prevents them from engaging in PvP. One of the main reasons is that without a proper guidance (good corp) they have no way to learn PvP.

Unlike CoD or BF3 EVE is not a game where a low skill player can kill a veteran by a lucky shot. If u donGÇÖt know what you're doing in EVE you will die - period.

That is a lie. Players like suitonia have repeatedly demonstrated how young players can destroy older players without problems, and you do not even need a lucky shot for that. They just need to watch proper guidance/information videos, ask pros and need to be willing to learn.

Moreover, if I was a younger player and would run these Burner missions to "learn PVP", I would take 2 things from that: All the players always web and scram you and I do just need to web them back and shoot them with some kind or weapon that reaches them. Moving around is overrated because they will just orbit me anyways so I do not need a prop mod either.

You contradict yourself. To be successful at PvP u need a lot of knowledge - you write it yourself. You canGÇÖt just win by hitting buttons randomly or using grande launcher like in FFS . Sure a young, BUT TRAINED player can defeat a veteran player but just proves my point. You need some sort of guidance to conduct P2P. Without it you will NEVER succeed - no intuitive behavior will help you.

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It means rats running away if not scramed, all-ewar warking on them and so onGǪ Details are less important than the general idea that the potential ganker like me should be aware that the pve ship is able to defend itself and I canGÇÖt just adopt tactic GÇ£IGÇÖll just run away if is too tanked" etc...

IGÇÖm pretty sure I started one myself (sorry too lazy to check ).

i think more than PvE that need PvP modules it would be better if they introduced some kind of PvE that can be done with PvP ship isk/hr effective.

The rules of eve

Rule 1 : Never fly what you can't afford to lose.

Rule 2 : Never tell anyone else how they should play eve.

Eve is a sandbox. If pve players want to play as pve player then they can. If you want to gank them you can.

The only time CCP should, and do, interfere is when something is broken. PVE fits are not broken they are just what you don't want to see

He isn't trying to tell anyone how to play Eve. All players start out in PvE with the tutorials, so some helpful transition to get players into PvP isn't a bad idea, it's just very difficult to implement.