and you, as well as the other idiots verbally aggressing the OP, fail to understand that they were simply asking a question and that there is no complaint whatsoever.

I always attribute this to a generation-thing; for all their tech-savvy, modern youngsters seem blithely oblivious to how easily things they post on the internet can get around. I for one have never assumed anything I've texted, emailed, facebooked, tweeted, put in the post, said on the phone, or written on a post-it stuck to the side of my monitor has only been read by the person I intended it for.

I don't know what else you thought full API meant? TBH this is pretty common knowledge, and given that GMs can also read your evemails, I can't think why anyone would ever put anything personal into one.

That's right. There is not such thing as an 'expectation of privacy' in a video game software property you never personally 'own' on any computer system that you do not have direct physical control of (and if it's connected to the Internet, all bets are off).

Maybe we're losing focus here.

What bothers me is not that "my" API gives "my" information but that "their" API will give out "my" information too, and I have not been warned of that before using the evemail service.

No offense, Jenna, but I adjusted your post to more closely match reality.

I cannot possibly express how hard I have tried to make this same point with my kids. They expect the system to protect them and then act surprised when it fails. I literally had to tell my teenage daughter to take our home address off her facebook page.

Forget drinking, you should have to be 21 to use the internet.

^^ The worst thing about facebook is having to explain to your mother why you've turned down her friend requests.

What does it say when your mom declines your friend request?

risque Inspector Poirot fanfic

No offense, Jenna, but I adjusted your post to more closely match reality.

So you don't have an 'expectation of privacy' of the computer systems operated by your bank, or your employer, or your doctor?

Strange world you live in.

So you don't have an 'expectation of privacy' of the computer systems operated by your bank, or your employer, or your doctor?

Strange world you live in.

So you don't have an 'expectation of privacy' of the computer systems operated by your bank

, or your employer,

or your doctor?

This gets funnier and funnier with the spy crap. "Catch the lazy spy." You'd have to be an oaf to be reamed by a lazy spy. You'd deserve it, and the rest of the player base shouldn't have to endure faulty processes just 'cause the lazy CEO is an oaf and needs a crutch. It's a ridiculous argument, and I suggest any spy looking for a target use this thread to find people making this argument. API is anti-spy? There's your meat. Bon appetite.

The real spy cannot be caught with the API. In fact, the real spy will feed the API in such a way as to create a footprint the so called intel-folks will not only fall for, but will be inclined to promote within the ranks and bestow with privileges and the keys to the kingdom. Anybody who doesn't understand this is really playing out of their depth, and the auto-feel good seeming security blanket this API seems to offer is just the thing to refer you to the paragraph above.

That being said, and not as opinion but fact, there is no real reason to defend this other than to say,
laziness should over rule logic. That's so 21st Century, too. We must be in vogue, no?

"Ignorance is bliss," my momma always told me.

And it bothers me that CCP's shoddy corporation mechanics and questionable API pulls end up with anyone reading my answers to other people asking for personal matters if those persons don't understand what "full API" means to *my* privacy and not just *theirs*.

Specially since there is no warning anywhere.

.....and when they aren't fighting with each other and outsiders on facebook they are pestering about "why don't you have a Facebook page??!?!". My standard reply is "YOU, YOU are the reason!" lol

It's like when governments are coming up with hilariously unsupportable laws about people sharing naked pictures of exes, and the afformentioned exes being shocked that if they send a naked picture to someone, it might get seen by someone who isn't the recipient. Well, duh. Human beings are humans. We are stupid, forgetful, inquisitive, nosey, prideful, jealous, possessed of inappropriate senses of humour, and occasionally spiteful and vindictive. Never attribute to malice what could be explained through stupidity. This **** is going to happen. It may not be what you intended, but you kinda have to take it with the territory; you don't want a photo of your parts posted on the internet, don't take the damn photo in the first place.

As things are getting interesting:

I do have several evemails from and to CCPs / GMs in my inbox.
I am not allowed to share them (forbidden by EULA)
I am allowed to share my full API.
I can not control wether or not those with access to my API will publish those mails on platforms like reddit/pastebin using an anonymous account.

So... if I want internal correspondence with CCP/GM to be published I simply give away my full API and won't risk a ban as I didn't break any rules.

Simple as that?

There are two lessons to be learned from this:

If you are not a UI designer:
Pretend that communication sent over the internet is going to end up publically on your facebook page, unless you've encrypted it.

If you are a UI designer:
Things which have the potential to do damage should always have attention explicitly drawn to them. Blaming the user is not acceptable design practice.

To all the people jumping to conclussions about my e-privacy:

- I don't owe any account on social networks, and never owned them
- I've uploaded exactly 3 pictures of myself to internet
- Googling my real name produces 10 results, of which 6 aren't me but persons with a similar surname
- I don't owe a smartphone. My cellular was bought in august 2006 and I still use it

I consider myself a tech-luddite.

And it bothers me that CCP's shoddy corporation mechanics and questionable API pulls end up with anyone reading my answers to other people asking for personal matters if those persons don't understand what "full API" means to *my* privacy and not just *theirs*.

Specially since there is no warning anywhere.

So you don't have an 'expectation of privacy' of the computer systems operated by your bank, or your employer, or your doctor?

Strange world you live in.

Nor does there need to be one. It's on the individual to figure somethings out for themselves, Like I did 8 years ago (I actually asked the dude who brought me in to EVE about how secure EVEmail was and he said "it's e-mail in a computer game, what do you think?") and which you failed to do for 6 years up till now.

Stop blaming others (like CCP) for personal failings.

On Another side note, anyone view this thread and get the "Gee, I didn't know McDonalds coffee and my private parts don't mix and now I'm surprised, I should sue someone because i didn't know coffee was hot" feel from this thread

Seems more comparable to some of the warnings you see on power tools, like "do not operate chainsaw while intoxicated and holding a muskrat".